raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Galileo. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, 1.7.x, 1.8.1, and 1.9.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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<discord-_> B​utcher. — How does one plan a rendezvous in principia?
<discord-_> D​amien. — when I do it, I match plane, phase relatively close using the Mk.1 eyeball then use the loops
<discord-_> D​amien. — depends what you mean by 'plan'
<discord-_> B​utcher. — I was hoping there was some way to see proximity using the flight planner, but it seems not.
<discord-_> B​utcher. — I'm about 0.25 degrees out on the plane, is that close enough?
<discord-_> D​amien. — you could have an intercept even if the orbits were 90° off from each other but it's just be a lot harder
<discord-_> D​amien. — you could have an intercept even if the orbits were 90° off from each other but it'd just be a lot harder (edited)
<discord-_> D​amien. — if you can get that to 0 it'll give you more flexibility
<discord-_> M​yshiko. — Close enough
<discord-_> D​amien. — here's a video I made when I was making a little tutorial series for principia https://youtu.be/ofCrS9n2Mu0
<discord-_> D​amien. — once you've got a decent enough phasing orbit you can just push the orbit loops around until you get it close to the target
<discord-_> D​amien. — just eyeball it
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<discord-_> C​onventia. — The key to rendevzous with principia is knowing that you have to switch to the target in the navball for the reference frame to be correct.
<discord-_> C​onventia. — Once I did that, it was just another trial and error, learning experience.
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<discord-_> B​utcher. — The issue was trying to get a reasonable phasing orbit, the target view doesn;t show orbital lines.
<discord-_> R​each. — How to make a distinction between Mars and Mercury in the gravity assist sequence?
<discord-_> B​utcher. — MeMa
<discord-_> D​amien. — @Butcher if you're in ECI with the target targeted it's not much different to stock
<discord-_> D​amien. — then switch to target on navball when you're closeish to get the loops
<discord-_> B​utcher. — @Damien Do you get the intercept markers? Or just eyeball the lines?
<discord-_> D​amien. — you can intercept markets on the target reference frame yeah
<discord-_> D​amien. — you can intercept markers on the target reference frame yeah (edited)
<discord-_> D​amien. — you get intercept markers on the target reference frame yeah (edited)
<discord-_> D​amien. — or closest approach markers or whatever they're called
<discord-_> D​amien. — have a look through that video I posted
<discord-_> D​amien. — \o/
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — i need to do that in carrer
<discord-_> D​amien. — it's not humanly possible
<discord-_> D​amien. — the only reason Reach can do it is because he's an AI
<discord-_> R​each. — 😂
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — if is 3800 m/s, is possible to this in RP-1 carrer
<discord-_> D​amien. — the dv isn't the issue, it's the skill
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — you need weak RCS, and some skill
<discord-_> D​amien. — those twitchy lines lol
<discord-_> D​amien. — it's so hard to be precise with the sliders
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — Is possible in a manned mission?
<discord-_> s​iimav. — No Pluto flyby, I'm disappointed!
<discord-_> D​amien. — didn't notice that
<discord-_> D​amien. — ok yeah scrap that then
<discord-_> D​amien. — any child could do an all planets but pluto mission
<discord-_> D​amien. — ban Reach for being too casual and having no skills
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — Hahahahaha
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — D:<
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — Or make Reach to do all landings on every planet and moon
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — That need a big rocket
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — And you need to land on Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and the Sun
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — No
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — Sun landing lol
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — To hard D:< and
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — That's impossible
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — why?
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — You'd burn or be compressed
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — if is possible to make a craft to orbit around Jool, is possible to do the same at the gas giants
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — That is
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — You can *orbit* it
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — Not land
<discord-_> D​amien. — @Jceratops it's possible. you just go at night
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — Lol
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — EVERY planet landing
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — inclounding the Sun and the gas giants
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — Every terrestrial planet and moon landing
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — inclunding the Sun and the gas giants (edited)
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — The sun isn't the planet
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — The sun isn't a planet (edited)
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — but is a valid object
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — But it's not a planet
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — It's a star
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — Okay, i ignore the Sun
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — Gas giants?
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — They're not terrestrial
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — you can go down to -249.99 meters on every planet
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — You could try too
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — and take off by using propellants
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — With about 0 efficiency
<discord-_> s​iimav. — Uhh, could you please discuss the mission instead of going completely offtopic?
<discord-_> P​rofiremu23. — Okay
<discord-_> J​ceratops. — Sorry lol
<discord-_> s​iimav. — !clear 20
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<discord-_> e​gg. — impressive!
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<discord-_> S​tandecco. — he did say all _planets_ flyby...
<discord-_> e​gg. — yeah, all planets and dwarf planets would be a very long list…
<discord-_> e​gg. — hm, Vesta isn’t classified as a dwarf planet
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<discord-_> M​yshiko. — Now I know why Pluto was un-classified from “full planet”. It’s so that “all planets flyby” was easier in KSP!
<discord-_> M​yshiko. — Truly, the influence of Kerbal Space Program and Principia is deep, subtle but life changing.
<discord-_> M​yshiko. — Truly, the influence of Kerbal Space Program and Principia is deep, subtle and yet life changing. (edited)
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<discord-_> e​gg. — @Reach you seem to be using PersistentRotation, note that it is incompatible with Principia since Frobenius (since Principia does persistent rotation of its own) https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/wiki/Change-Log#frobenius
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<discord-_> g​ravShark. — wondering if this is a purple noodle issue. When doing rendezvous and having a target selected, as I approach the target and its within 100m, 50m, etc it doesn't show the reticle marker over the target. is that intended?
<discord-_> l​pg. — did you hit F4 by accident?
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