raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Galileo. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, 1.7.x, 1.8.1, and 1.9.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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Damien. — @Butcher mainly target body centered sun aligned
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Damien. — Then target body centered inertial to tidy it up
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[Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2622: Conversion of a polynomial to a higher degree - https://git.io/JJUEd
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egg. — and target body surface if you plan to impact or land immediately on arrival
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Butcher. — I don't.
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Butcher. — Also is launching into roughly the plane of the moon still a reasonable proxy for the eclipitic?
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egg. — kind of (though you might be 5° off), but there is the ecliptic navball
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Butcher. — My launch site is 34.6 degrees north, I;m never going to hit it exactly.
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egg. — (ECSA is Earth-centred ecliptic, so its reference plane is the ecliptic)
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egg. — (I should really rename that frame)
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Stonesmile. — When transfering to another planet, is it best to correct inclination between the planet and the vessel during the ejection burn from earth or as a correction once away from earth?
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Damien. — you can only match inclination with the target if you eject when earth is at the an/dn of the target orbit
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Damien. — that's rarely the case
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Damien. — your inclination around earth is irrelevant on an interplanetary scale
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Damien. — so yeah, correction at the an/dn is the best way
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Stonesmile. — Well that is obvious in hindsight...
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Myshiko. — @Stonesmile the usual recommendation on how to deal with inclination on interplanetary launches - take off at dusk-dawn, go polar, follow the terminator (line between light and darkness). And then find departure burn on that orbit.
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Myshiko. — @Stonesmile the usual recommendation on how to deal with inclination on interplanetary launches from high inclination sites - take off at dusk-dawn, go polar, follow the terminator (line between light and darkness). And then find departure burn on that orbit. (edited)
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[Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2622: Conversion of a polynomial to a higher degree - https://git.io/JJUEd
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[Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/JJTUn
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[Principia] pleroy 13be47d - Conversion of a polynomial to a higher degree.
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[Principia] pleroy 57a213f - Merge pull request #2622 from pleroy/PolynomialConversion Conversion of a polynomial to a higher degree
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Myshiko. — Well, get in to the right parking orbit, and take the planning time.
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Myshiko. — If the launch date / time is order-of magnitude correct, there will be a burn solution
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Conventia. — That's also not what I meant.
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Conventia. — I often focus on getting close to the planet after the initial burn, which usually results in the craft going too fast to capture at the destination.
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Conventia. — Flybys aren't that hard.
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Myshiko. — You want free capture? Or aero-capture? The propulsive capture is usually a bloody affair (a lot of delta v expended).
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Myshiko. — (I have no experience with free capture on planetary scale)
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Conventia. — I've never done anything with principia other than propulsive. I'm not really asking for advice or help. It's just a learning experience for me that I commented on.
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Myshiko. — Acknowledging
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Conventia. — It seems like the impact of inclinations with principia is higher when going interplanetary.
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Myshiko. — Depends on what type of parking orbit one got into.
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Conventia. — I mean, inclinations of the planets. Inclination of the parking orbit seems mostly inconsequential, given sufficient dv.
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Conventia. — Most of my transfer stages have 500-1000 m/s spare dv.
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Luci. — is 86 degrees around the moon one of the mystical "frozen orbits" in principia?
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egg. — they are neither mystical nor, as is commonly believed for some reason, discrete; instead for each inclination and semimajor axis there is an eccentricity that is stable
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egg. — (sometimes that eccentricity is so high as to make the orbit nonexistent obviously, but still, you have continuous families of stable orbits)
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Stonesmile. — If I'm not mistaken the 86 deg orbit is stable for low circular orbits, under 100 km
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[Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2624: Change Poisson series to take Instant, not Time - https://git.io/JJTmL