04:41 <_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] LUH5147 opened issue #2634: Near FTL capability!? - https://git.io/JJqAA

06:49 <_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #2634: Near FTL capability!? - https://git.io/JJqhx

07:38 <discord-_> D​iego_. — so, for example, in the orbital manoeuvres contract, you have to wait two days in flight, then another two. If you time warp, the solar panels wont stay oriented due to the residual rotation (not using the mod PersistentRotation, I meant the rotation during time warp as handled by principia). So I was wondering if there was any workaround that. otherwise, I'll just use the debug menu to complete t

07:39 <discord-_> D​iego_. — > You can set it to hold a relative angle?

07:39 <discord-_> D​iego_. — @Kirk Don't know how to do it during time warp. What am I missing there?

09:43 <discord-_> D​amien. — @Kirk @Diego_ with the persistent rotation mod you can set it to hold an angle, not with principia

09:43 <discord-_> D​amien. — principia may have a "if momentum is less than x, assume zero" feature but doesn't yet

09:43 <discord-_> D​amien. — it's come up in conversation though

09:45 <discord-_> D​amien. — for the the manned contract I'd use flat solar panels all round the sides then spin stabilise, or use a fuel cell

09:54 <discord-_> A​nomaly. — A more pressing issue

09:54 <discord-_> A​nomaly. — Radiation

10:07 <discord-_> B​utcher. — @egg where is the rebase button supposed to be?

11:55 <discord-_> B​utcher. — @egg rebase is very nice.

11:55 <discord-_> e​gg. — I gather you have found the button

11:55 <discord-_> B​utcher. — Yes, it was too big. 😆

11:56 <discord-_> e​gg. — :D

13:51 <discord-_> s​lome. — Is it normal for a save file with principia to be more then 1GB in size?

13:52 <discord-_> e​gg. — yes

13:52 <discord-_> e​gg. — https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/2400

13:52 <discord-_> e​gg. — We are working on this

13:59 <discord-_> s​lome. — Ah, so principia is the reason for the 1-3 second waiting times every scene change as well then?

13:59 <discord-_> e​gg. — most likely, the large saves are

14:00 <discord-_> e​gg. — (and so Principia indirectly is)

14:00 <discord-_> e​gg. — for some inane reason KSP is very slow when handling large save files

14:00 <discord-_> s​lome. — I'm only having 2 active flights at the moment though?

14:00 <discord-_> s​lome. — only 1960

14:00 <discord-_> l​pg. — "1-3 seconds waiting times"? that's blazing fast

14:01 <discord-_> s​lome. — very fast SSD, loads of fast ram, and an overclocked 3900x

14:01 <discord-_> s​lome. — still, it's fairly slow

14:01 <discord-_> s​lome. — with ksp

14:02 <discord-_> l​pg. — a sub-1-minute scene change is unusual in RO

14:02 <discord-_> e​gg. — the SSD and ram don’t matter for the load time, you are not disk-bound, you are KSP-stupidity-bound

14:02 <discord-_> s​lome. — I see

14:02 <discord-_> s​lome. — so this will probably get worse with more active flights?

14:03 <discord-_> e​gg. — (you also integrate 1950 to 1960 for the solar system but that should hardly take more than a second)

14:03 <discord-_> e​gg. — the question here is not so much the number of flights as their length

14:03 <discord-_> e​gg. — if you have a ten-year-old satellite, you have ten years of history

14:03 <discord-_> s​lome. — I see, so it's probably best to delete any older unused satellites

14:04 <discord-_> e​gg. — until such a time as we deal with 2400, yes

14:05 <discord-_> l​pg. — 1GB is pretty huge, I was only up to 200MB in 1959 before I did some cleaning

14:06 <discord-_> s​lome. — I mainly did a lot of X planes mission so far.

14:06 <discord-_> B​utcher. — I have about 12 active atm, but clearing out my early boring LEO sats saved a huge amount of sapce.

14:06 <discord-_> s​lome. — I did airlaunch a lot, since I didn't notice any problems with it.

14:06 <discord-_> e​gg. — yeah LEO sats are much more expensive than interplanetary probes as far as space is concerned right now

14:08 <discord-_> s​lome. — Apart from this issue, I was wondering what the possible airlaunch problem was, since it's stated in the install instructions that principia doesn't work well with this feature.

14:16 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/730789538921840740/unknown.png

14:17 <egg|anbo|egg> uova

14:18 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — 🍆 pianta uovo

14:19 <uovo> Eier

14:20 <egg|cell|egg> œufs

14:20 <discord-_> e​gg. — eyren

14:20 <discord-_> e​gg. — (egges)

14:21 <discord-_> S​tandegg. — æg

19:09 <discord-_> L​uci. — is there any known way to have principia not break airlaunch?

19:09 <discord-_> l​pg. — turn on Hack Gravity

19:10 <discord-_> l​pg. — (before initiating launch)

19:10 <discord-_> L​uci. — can I just set it to 1.0? or...?

19:10 <discord-_> l​pg. — yes

19:10 <discord-_> L​uci. — weird

19:10 <discord-_> l​pg. — just check the checkmark

19:10 <discord-_> L​uci. — but ok

19:10 <discord-_> l​pg. — it's an escape hatch of sorts out of principia

19:10 <discord-_> e​gg. — @Luci the context is that hack gravity is an escape hatch to tell Principia to ignore your vessel

19:11 <discord-_> l​pg. — #2606 looking good; my quickload test case no longer self-destructs

19:11 <discord-_> e​gg. — this will destroy your history, flight plan, etc., may lead to weird reorientations on unhacking

19:11 <discord-_> L​uci. — K

19:11 <discord-_> e​gg. — the longer-term solution is to poke @siimav with a stick

19:11 <discord-_> L​uci. — I thought you were the principia dev?

19:11 <discord-_> e​gg. — I am not the airlaunch de

19:12 <discord-_> e​gg. — I am not the airlaunch dev (edited)

19:12 <discord-_> L​uci. — Ah. Neither is siimav from what I've heard. People keep directing me to the KCT team

19:12 <discord-_> l​pg. — siimav added airlainch to kct

19:12 <discord-_> e​gg. — well, aiui siimav added airlaunch to KCT

19:12 <discord-_> l​pg. — siimav added airlaunch to kct (edited)

19:13 <discord-_> l​pg. — not sure the feature gets any use at all outside rp-1

19:13 <discord-_> e​gg. — (but siimav may have other cats than Principia compatibility to deal with)

19:14 <discord-_> b​adgermasher. — I don't have a clue what I'm accomplishing but Jupiter is a fun thing https://i.imgur.com/f9LR4QU.png

19:15 <discord-_> e​gg. — I don’t think this is the best frame to make sense of whatever it is we are looking at

19:15 <discord-_> b​adgermasher. — But it draws a heart

19:16 <discord-_> e​gg. — true

19:24 <discord-_> b​adgermasher. — I'm just playing around with a Jupiter flyby probe. Trying to see where I can throw it after the initial flyby.

19:36 <discord-_> b​adgermasher. — Well Jupiter -> Vesta seems more useful than Jupiter -> Jupiter in the context of my RP-1 career. Let's go with that one.

19:37 <discord-_> b​adgermasher. — https://i.imgur.com/uw9XHbT.png

21:05 <_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2635: Move a few bit-related operations to a common place - https://git.io/JJm2U

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21:16 <_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2635: Move a few bit-related operations to a common place - https://git.io/JJm2U

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21:44 <_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy commented on pull request #2635: Move a few bit-related operations to a common place - https://git.io/JJmaJ

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22:02 <_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2635: Move a few bit-related operations to a common place - https://git.io/JJm2U

22:02 <_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy pushed 5 commits to master [+6/-0/±11] https://git.io/JJmaW

22:02 <_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy f7b4f55 - Bit operations.

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