egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ ":workbeale:"
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⟨egg⟩ Alright. Basila, test_account, EverEvolvingDegenerate, this is what needs to be translated:
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⟨Basila⟩ #Principia_ReferenceFrameSelector_Description_RotatingPulsating = Центры <<A:3>> и <<A:1>> неподвижны.\nПлоскость их орбиты горизонтальна.\nСистема отсчета вращается вместе с орбитой, чтобы сохранить прямую <<nom:3>>–<<nom:1>> неподвижна и пульсирует, чтобы держать расстояние...
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... <<nom:3>>–<<nom:1>> постоянным.
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#Principia_ReferenceFrameSelector_Description_RotatingPulsatingOneMoon = Центр <<A:3>> и барицентр системы <<nom:1>>–<<nom:5>> неподвижны.\nПлоскость их орбиты горизонтальна.\nСистема отсчета вращается вместе с орбитой, чтобы сохранить прямую <<nom:3>>–<<nom:1>> неподвижной, и пульсирует, чтобы...
<queqiao->
... чтобы держать расстояние <<nom:3>>–<<nom:1>> постоянным.
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⟨test_account⟩ Just made my version too 🙂
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" // TODO(egg): Russian.
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#Principia_ReferenceFrameSelector_Description_RotatingPulsating = Центры <<A:3>> и <<A:1>> неподвижны.\nПлоскость их орбиты горизонтальна.\nСистема координат вращается вместе с орбитой, фиксируя направление <<nom:3>>–<<nom:1>>, и пульсирует, сохраняя расстояние <<nom:3>>–<<nom:1>> неизменным.
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#Principia_ReferenceFrameSelector_Description_RotatingPulsatingOneMoon = Центр <<A:3>> и барицентр системы <<nom:1>>–<<nom:5>> неподвижны.\nПлоскость их орбиты горизонтальна.\nСистема координат вращается вместе с орбитой, фиксируя направление <<nom:3>>–<<nom:1>>, и пульсирует, сохраняя...
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⟨Basila⟩ oh, even better. and i missed last string for Lagrange points.
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⟨Basila⟩ should we keep "трансфер" or it's better to replace it with "перелёт"? i prefer second one because of Ё
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⟨test_account⟩ it uses "трансфер" now
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#principia_ReferenceFrameSelector_Tooltip_BodyCentredParentDirection = <<#1>>: для пролёта мимо <<gen:2>>, трансферов с <<gen:2>> или на <<acc:2>>.
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⟨test_account⟩ this also exists, not sure I like it
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⟨test_account⟩ so the last string could be
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" #Principia_ReferenceFrameSelector_Tooltip_RotatingPulsating = <<5>> система координат: для низкоэнергетических перелётов или орбит вокруг точек Лагранжа системы <<nom:3>>–<<nom:1>>."
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⟨egg⟩ ⟪test_account⟫ Just made my version too 🙂 ` // […] ⮪ Thanks!
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though I suppose you mean Центр <<*gen*:3>> и барицентр системы <<*gen*:1>>,
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> Центр *Солнце и барицентр системы *Юпитер
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> Центр Солнца и барицентр системы Юпитераnot
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⟨test_account⟩ Yes, the case should be gen
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⟨egg⟩ I wonder whether it would improve things if we supported multiple _primaries_, as well as multiple secondaries; would the equipotentials of the Neptune–Sun Lagrange frame look nicer?
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⟨egg⟩ Uncertain enough that I should try it out with a unit test and Mathematica instead of plumbing it all the way through like I did for secondary systems though.
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⟨EverEvolvingDegenerate⟩ ⟪Basila⟫ should we keep "трансфер" or it's […] ⮪ 'Перелёт' sounds better for me. I can't give more feedback right now.
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⟨Basila⟩ ⟪EverEvolvingDegenerate⟫ 'Перелёт' sounds better for me. I can't […] ⮪ yep. any Russian who tries to use Principia and willing to understand orbital mechanic will end up reading Levantovskiy's "Mechanic of orbital flight in elementary way". and there is no such work "трансфер" but "перелёт" 🙂
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⟨egg⟩ in fact, why don’t you try setting this […] ⮪ Al₂Me₆ Did you try that, and did it help? If it is useful we might want to make it a cfg setting, but someone who actually plays with the noodles should try it out to figure out if it is useful.
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ Ah, thanks for the reminder. I shall try it.
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ Hm egg did you change how the equipotentials get computed? There's now a significant delay (~1s) between switching frames and the lines showing up
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ ⟪egg⟫ Al₂Me₆ (@_discord_721843413456257114:mat[…] ⮪ Re. this. I think perhaps 0.75 rad/s or something like that would be good. 1 rad/s is definitely a bit fast, especially given the low framerates.
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ Hm egg (@_discord_340796382434689037:mat[…] ⮪ This is exceptionally jarring though, as if you toggle between frames A-B-A fast enough the noodles for frame B might flash for a brief moment _after_ switching back to frame A.
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ * ~the noodles for frame B might flash for a brief moment _after_ switching back to frame A~ the lines for frame A will initially appear, disappear, and then appear again after toggling
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⟨egg⟩ ⟪Al₂Me₆⟫ Hm egg (@_discord_340796382434689037:mat[…] ⮪ I don’t think I made it much slower, it was very much stop-motion from the start. Maybe the faster transition makes it more jarring.
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ ⟪egg⟫ I don’t think I made it much slower, it […] ⮪ Perhaps; I'll try it again without.
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⟨egg⟩ ⟪Al₂Me₆⟫ ...which to me is rather difficult to […] ⮪ well, that certainly seems to be drifting along the rim quite a lot. The rim is pretty well defined in the screenshot above (it is just that some of it is below the lowest equipotential Principia shows).
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⟨egg⟩ I wonder whether it would improve […] ⮪ I’m not sure things are that clean for those bodies, it is not implausible that Jupiter throws a wrench into things. I had this idea but I’d be surprised if it made things look any better.
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ Perhaps; I'll try it again without. ⮪ Apologies; you are right. I don't think it helped that I tried the old build on a 🐌 laptop.
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⟨egg⟩ ⟪Al₂Me₆⟫ Sun-Pluto Lagrange looks rather strange […] ⮪ Even for SEL you can see the trajectory of the Earth going outside the Earth
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ (Note the clump of lines immediately next to Pluto)
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⟨egg⟩ Hm. I guess the equipotentials in the middle are pretty much spam; I should take the diametre of the system as the radius of the system, instead of the radius of its primary.
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⟨egg⟩ ⟪Al₂Me₆⟫ Tbh this might be one of the neatest […] ⮪ I’d be interested in seeing such a gif btw (and it may be useful to other users)
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⟨egg⟩ (arguably I should try it out, but that would involve _playing_)
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ Yeah I just need to set up some screen-capturing software to record it
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Depending on your OS, such software *may* be preinstalled
* raptop
pokes windows in the game bar
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⟨egg⟩ ⟪test_account⟫ it uses "трансфер" now […] ⮪ Alright, so it sounds like I should change it to перелёт?
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so
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> <<#1>>: для пролёта мимо <<gen:2>>, перелётов с <<gen:2>> или на <<acc:2>>