<Deddly>
Sounds like a fascinating read, UmbralRaptop
<Deddly>
Mat2ch, are they sure that's not due to heat?
<Deddly>
Yes, apparently, they checked for that
<Deddly>
"The researchers performed a second experiment with a longer fiber and continuous–rather than pulsed–laser light and found similar results. The tip of the hanging fiber moved sideways like a pendulum by about 30 microns, which agreed with the tiny force (less than a billionth of a Newton) that they predicted. The team also verified that thermal effects, such as heat expansion, would be too small to influence the fibe
<Deddly>
r’s movement."
<Deddly>
Although not a definitive answer, it's a very interesting study.
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<Deddly>
Yo Fluburtur
<Fluburtur>
ay
<Deddly>
I'm heading SOUTH!
<Fluburtur>
nice
<Deddly>
Due South. That was a great series, but I digress
<Deddly>
22k fuel remaining
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<Fluburtur>
sounds like enough
<Deddly>
I'm about half way between the arctic ice sheet and the equator
<Deddly>
Noooo more than that
<Deddly>
More like 2/3 of the way
<Deddly>
28° 37' N
<Fluburtur>
how long did the mission take so far?
<Deddly>
I don't know because the mission timer reset every time I launched one of the auxiliary craft
<Deddly>
Oh heck, and I just realised I was on a collision course with a land mass
<Deddly>
Sailing at night is dangerous from map view
<Eddi|zuHause>
i've tried reading the link, but i still didn't figure out whether they say that light increases or reduces momentum in denser material
<Deddly>
So it says "Total mission 10 days 4 hours" but that's only since I last launched another craft from it
<Deddly>
Just so you know, Fluburtur this is all at 1x physics warp
<Fluburtur>
do you have the date of when you launched the mission?
<Deddly>
I do, in another save. So I'll be able to get the total mission time
<Deddly>
Or maybe I have it in a screenshot...
<packbart>
Eddi|zuHause: "the light gains momentum when it hits the air" - if the fibre is more dense, it reduced the momentum. that's what I read in it
<Deddly>
No I don't have a screenshot of the date
<Deddly>
I'm gonna crank this think up to full speed as soon as I get to the last section, if I have the fuel for it. I'm dying to know how fast it can go.
<Deddly>
I've only used two engines on less than 1/3 throttle for the entire trip, but I needed six to be able to get it moving when fully fuelled
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<darsie>
Time to look for a Mars transfer window for my great rocket :).
<darsie>
Merlin 1D++ + hypergolic AJ10. Before I used the RL10 (hydrolox) and any excess would evaporate.
<darsie>
Now I can use it for plane change and Mars orbit insertion.
<JVFoxy>
watching some vid on moon rover buggy thing... didn't realize they wanted to try a mobile lab for a two week stay up there.
<darsie>
SpaceIl?
<JVFoxy>
something called mo-lab..
<darsie>
planned? cancelled?
<JVFoxy>
cancelled.. it would have been 8,000lbs, needing a dedicated Saturn 5 to get it up there.
<UmbralRaptop>
Hrm. How far beyond the Titan IIIE would that be?
<JVFoxy>
they talk about it in this video, along with a static test to see if people could actually 'live' in it for 18 or so days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aDSYTMqyQw
<kmath>
YouTube - Lunar Rover
* UmbralRaptop
also vaguely gestures at the 34D and IV
<JVFoxy>
Molab starts at 7:20 mark if interested
<darsie>
If they used that during a lunar day they would have increased the chance of getting into a solar storm.
<JVFoxy>
layer of water on the roof would have helped quite a bit
<darsie>
Water and piss :)
<darsie>
Or regolith
<JVFoxy>
was a lot of unknowns at the time of the designing. main thing they talked about was not knowing what the surface was going to be like even.
<JVFoxy>
aw... watching couple of old guys relive toying around with a model moon buggy they built from back in the day
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<darsie>
What level is the average sea on Phobos? "ASL gravity"=0.00139 g, but GM/r2/9.81=0.00149 g.
<darsie>
Maybe they use average altitude, which is above the spherical body.
<darsie>
Ok, 118 TWR should be enough :).
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<JVFoxy>
118 TWR.. with or without kerbals?
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<darsie>
without
<darsie>
On Phobos
<JVFoxy>
was thinking how many G's it would pull..
<kmath>
Fluburtur: kinetic energy->, mass->1.8 kg (kilograms), velocity->120 km/h (kilometers per hour)kinetic energy->1 kJ (kilojoule), = 0.2778 W h (watt hours), = 6.242×10^21 eV (electronvolts)
<JVFoxy>
uh...
<JVFoxy>
oh right TWR more to do with being close to a surface thing.
<darsie>
not really
<darsie>
Just the surface may be different.
<darsie>
g is independent of surface, though.
<JVFoxy>
I was wondering more max accel vs TWR...
<darsie>
Weight only exists if you are attracted to something :).
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<JVFoxy>
118 though.. head thought that was stupid crazy lot.
<darsie>
Well, there's weight in any accelerated system, I guess. Centrifuges, rockets ...
<JVFoxy>
I guess i usually seen stuff like 2-4TWR...
<darsie>
On Earth. Or Kerbin.
<darsie>
Things are different on Gilly :).
<JVFoxy>
did a lander probe thing for minmus... designed to do a landing, hop to another biome, then back to control craft. Not sure it can do the same thing on mun
<darsie>
Why would you?
<JVFoxy>
why would I what?
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<JVFoxy>
ugh, stupid wireless...
<JVFoxy>
sorry, why would I what?
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<Althego>
wintergatan
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<darsie>
JVFoxy: biome hop on Mun
<darsie>
With a science lab you can get enough science from Minmus to complete the tech tree.
<darsie>
JVFoxy: You could land at a triple biome junction.
<JVFoxy>
also wanted to test/show you can control a probe from a ship when out of LOS of kerbin
<darsie>
Jeb can do that :).
<D-e-d-d-l-y>
It's a perfectly valid mission profile
<Fluburtur>
back from flying the glider, I beat both of my records
<Fluburtur>
1km high and 4km out
<D-e-d-d-l-y>
That's awesome, Fluburtur
<darsie>
Definitely. I made missions after completing the tech tree.
<D-e-d-d-l-y>
Must be an amazing experience
<Fluburtur>
video feed wasnt that great at 1km high because I wasnt far enough and signal polarisation was a bit of an issue
<Fluburtur>
while flying away it was quite good, signal was horrible on the way home tho
<Fluburtur>
so it did most of the way home on autopilot
<Fluburtur>
I flew the final 1km while gliding manually at an average speed of 90kph
<JVFoxy>
well... jeb + either another pilot or certain probe cores
<darsie>
And a relay antenna.
<JVFoxy>
eh ya.. relay though I normally add a pair on anyways
<JVFoxy>
I had a bit of head scratching when designing the lander probe that could pack into a service bay.. then found out was a bit more space for refueling tanks, batteries, relay and solar panels
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