Sigma88 changed the topic of #Kopernicus to: #Kopernicus | Release 1.3.0-4 - https://git.io/v0Gg5 | Pictures: https://git.io/vHqLy | List of packs: http://git.io/vWjiY | GitHub: http://git.io/vWAFE | Examples: http://git.io/vWAF9 | Visual Editor: http://git.io/vWAbq | Funny Quotes: https://git.io/vHqt8 | <Kopernicus> Kopernicus/master 91e89a4 thomas-jenkins: Kopernicus 1.2.2-6 - "404 - Title not found"
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<Qboid> 4d 0h 0m 0s left to event #0: H-2A • Michibiki 3 [at 2017-08-11 07:00:00]. Say '!koundown 0' for details
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<pkmniako> Hello!
<Thomas> Hi
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<pkmniako> It has been a long time since I've entered this chat
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<MartinX3> hi, is it normal, that the system.cfg in the system is a little bit weird? @Kopernicus:AFTER[KOPERNICUS]
<MartinX3> }
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<MartinX3> !Body,*
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<Thomas> Thats a config that deletes all stock bodies, so the stellarator generated system can start from scratch
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<MartinX3> ah, that only one system is in the game and kerbin is destroyed
<MartinX3> wasn't the mod "galactic neightboors" from the kopernicus team? (easy multiple planet/system packs in one game)
<Thomas> Galactic Neighborhood is from SigmaES
<MartinX3> Ah, SigmaEs isn't Sigma88
<Thomas> He is
<MartinX3> i thought he is part of the team, i saw this project on his side
<MartinX3> *site
<Thomas> He works on Kopernicus and GN (and other stuff)
<MartinX3> So he isn't part of the kopernicus team but an active kopernicus developer :D
<Thomas> I would say he is part of the team
<Thomas> But his mod is not from the team
<Thomas> Kopernicus is from the kopernicus team, GN is from Sigma
<MartinX3> ah, so with galactic neightboors it is not needed anymore to destroy the system and begin from scratch?
<Thomas> With GN, the stellarator system could simply spawn around another star
<MartinX3> a central star/black hole with man systems. are there any plans to put GN into kopernicus?
<Thomas> Why?
<Thomas> The only difference would be that users are forced to install something they might not want
<MartinX3> you think GN would be bloatware for the user instead of beeing a nice extension of kopernicus?
<Thomas> I think that the user should decide what he wants, not the modder
<MartinX3> thats true, but would gn not only makes a difference, when you install a second system?
<Thomas> Do you know if the user wants to install a warpdrive mod to get to system XY, or if he wants system XY orbiting the sun like it would do without GN?
<Thomas> You don't
<Thomas> You can't know what the user wants. The user can know so he should be the one who decides what to install
<MartinX3> yes, you're right
<MartinX3> would it make sense to offer a option in stellaris to generate multiple systemns and to not kill the stock system?
<Thomas> That would make lot's of sense
<MartinX3> Okay, thanks, i wrote it down as todo in the code of stellaris :)
<MartinX3> another question, the generation of every object (i mean the exporting of the scaled space maps) takes a whiel for every system. are there any plans for multithreading or are there known slow code parts which could be optimized?
<Thomas> Every planet could generate in its own thread, but that would cause a mess with logging. (not that I would care)
<Thomas> The export operation itself is harder to multithread because neither the KSP PQS nor my fake PQS are threadsafe
<MartinX3> ahh, i Look where i can make the code more like functional programming :)
<MartinX3> when the test run is finished, i will commit and push the code cleaning task and make a pull request :)
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<GregroxMun> o/
<Thomas> \o
<MartinX3> o/
<GregroxMun> \o
<GregroxMun> y'all want to see a t-shirt design I made for my astronomy club's eclipse expedition?
<GregroxMun> i dont care if the answer is no
<MartinX3> but the answer is yes, in my opinion, and now get scared about that
<MartinX3> in my opinion, i like it <3
<GregroxMun> The font on "Stellar Society" is taken from the normal shirt, which is black, and thus horrible for standing outside in the sun.
<GregroxMun> Actually, that you like it isn't an opinion.
<GregroxMun> if you like it, it's an opinion that it's good
<GregroxMun> but it is a fact that you like it
<MartinX3> everything is a fact, your opinion is a fact, too
<GregroxMun> the way you phrased it was inaccurate
<GregroxMun> not everything is a fact either
<GregroxMun> there are true facts about everything though
<MartinX3> every one has an objective view on things. but their perveption is subjective
<GregroxMun> stop pls
<GregroxMun> Thomas, when are you going to release the next Kopernicus?
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<MartinX3> did you ever saw a rare NPE while using the stellarator after the following point?
<MartinX3> Generated a planet named Omicron Cologium IX. GasGiant: True. Template: Jool
<MartinX3> Generated orbit around Sun for Omicron Cologium IX
<MartinX3> Generated atmosphere for Omicron Cologium IX
<MartinX3> Generated scaled space for Omicron Cologium IX
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<MartinX3> nevermind, the npe can occur randomly
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<MartinX3> @Thomas, I get a NPE, when I generate planet rings. thats weird. is there a known bug?
<Thomas> I dont know
<Thomas> Check with the debugger which line is throwing?
<MartinX3> i'm stepping throug the parser. bug was hard to find. because npe happens only rarely if (planet.gas_giant && (Random.Next(0, 100) < 5))
<Thomas> Which seed do you use?
<MartinX3> seed 123
<MartinX3> at the momment i step through LoadObjectMemberFromConfigurationNode somewhere happened it, i investigate more
<MartinX3> sorry meaned LoadCollectionMemberFromConfigurationNode
<MartinX3> ah, think i found it, test it
<MartinX3> reflections are funny. i changed a field to a property and the parser doesn't work, because it throw an error converting object[] to object
<MartinX3> but only at RingPrefab List>Ring> rings
<MartinX3> i reverted it back to a field. seems easier at the moment, than changing the parser :P
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<Kopernicus> [Stellarator] MartinX3 opened pull request #12: Further Code Clean Up (master...master) https://git.io/v76ZQ
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<SigmaIT> :/
<GregroxMun> Information Technology?
<SigmaIT> Italy
<SigmaIT> :P
<GregroxMun> i figured
<SigmaIT> Just a "pit stop" tho
<GregroxMun> oh
<GregroxMun> what are you doing travelling across the universe
<GregroxMun> s/universe/europe
<Qboid> GregroxMun meant to say: what are you doing travelling across the europe
<SigmaIT> Holiday in spain
<SigmaIT> Now home a couple of days
<SigmaIT> Then uk for a week (my gf's home)