ferram4 changed the topic of #RO to: Welcome to the discussion channel for the Realism Overhaul (meta)mod for KSP! Realism Overhaul Main Thread https://goo.gl/wH7Dzb ! RO Spreadsheet http://goo.gl/Oem3g0 ! Code of Conduct http://goo.gl/wOSv2M ! | Maximal & soundnfury's RP-1 Race Into Space Signup: http://bit.ly/2DEVm2i [15:01] <soundnfury> Straight Eight Stronk (and) RP-0/1 is basically "Space Agency Spreadsheet Simulator"
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<Starwaster> petti I tried to get the banks to give me some munny on your recommendation and they laffed at me :'(
<Bornholio> STARWASTER5 WHAT IS THAT LAST IMAGE?
<Bornholio> sorry for yelling
<ProjectThoth> I'M SORRY COULD YOU SPEAK UP PLEASE
<Bornholio> .poke
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<petti> Starwaster: you asked and for too little. Go offer them a chance to lend you 100 million.
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<petti> but seriously, the top of the bubble is near
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<ProjectThoth> petti: Bubble?
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<BadRocketsCo> Hi!
<ProjectThoth> Hello, BadRocketsCo!
<BadRocketsCo> How're things?
<ProjectThoth> I own a phaser now.
<ProjectThoth> That's about it.
<soundnfury> o/ chaps
<ProjectThoth> It makes noise, lights up, and I can annoy the cats with it... AND change channels on the television.
<BadRocketsCo> ProjectThoth: haha, sounds fun
<BadRocketsCo> Heyya soundnfury. What ya up to?
* BadRocketsCo is trying to design a manned mars lander
<BadRocketsCo> It's a shame that procedural engines doesn't exist...
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<ProjectThoth> BadRocketsCo: What strategy are you going for?
<BadRocketsCo> Thinking between venus gravity assist to Mars and straight to Mars
<BadRocketsCo> Mostly inspired by Baxter's "Voyager"
<BadRocketsCo> But I've been also thinking Just building a Nova rocket and launching the whole thing with one launch
<ProjectThoth> For the lander specifically, I should say.
<ProjectThoth> Biconic, or capsule?
<BadRocketsCo> Oooh
<BadRocketsCo> Capsule, yeah
<ProjectThoth> Ah, then I don't have much feedback, bearing the "Voyage" thing in mind.
<ProjectThoth> Because I assume you want to stick with a capsule, and those are tricky.
<BadRocketsCo> Oh? Why's that?
<ProjectThoth> Low cross-sectional area, higher descent rate, more delta-v for landing.
<BadRocketsCo> Hmm
<BadRocketsCo> Do you have any examples of the biconic type lander?
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<ProjectThoth> BadRocketsCo: Constellation!
<ProjectThoth> Sorry, it's my favorite concept.
<BadRocketsCo> Oooh
<BadRocketsCo> I was playing with the concept a little while back but never quite figured out how to make it reenter bottom first.
<ProjectThoth> Air flaps?
<soundnfury> BadRocketsCo: /me has only just finished recovering from yesterday's red-eye flight
<soundnfury> just about to make some breakfast and then I'll be off to work
<BadRocketsCo> Oh, sweet
<soundnfury> oh and I _still_ haven't gotten around to flying my EOR (everything-orbit-rendezvous) moon missions ;)
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<awang> \o
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<Starwaster> damn, Real ISRU is going to take a lot of work to clean up. Everywhere I look I see conversion recipes where the masses don't add up on both sides when it matters
<Starwaster> water electrolysis loses about 55% of the mass
<Bornholio> is it stuff that has to be vented?
<Starwaster> not that I've seen SO FAR.
<Starwaster> I can't say that might not be the case for some of them but not the ones I've examined closely
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<soundnfury> Starwaster: maybe someone used ratios from stoichiometry and failed to account for molecular masses?
<Bornholio> that would be the reason to vent, also getting 100% efficiency is harder so sometimes you extrac a useful percentage and dump the waste
<Bornholio> unfortunately not much to go on except the space station
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