00:51 <Bornholio> rokker bones are down butt Buffs and B-2's aren't :)

00:51 <Bornholio> https://i.imgur.com/OPCOXCv.mp4

01:18 <Starwaster> bornholio (sorry picking someone at random to rant at) This is unfucking real.... I'm having to make a goddamn spreadsheet just to figure out how to configure my goddamn reactors

01:19 <Bornholio> true

01:19 <Bornholio> i need a LOx to O2 generator, which is dumb also

01:20 <Starwaster> why is that dumb?

01:20 <Starwaster> and why do you need it?

01:20 <Bornholio> evidently there isn;t one in RP-0 right now, and i can easily store LOX

01:21 <Starwaster> so it's not dumb that you need it, it's dumb that you need it and it doesn't exist?

01:21 <Starwaster> also why the HELL does ROverDude think it's a good idea to divide the amount of flux to send by deltaTime? STOP DOING THAT

01:22 <Bornholio> ypu, should be part of LS modules. bob does that

01:22 <Starwaster> I did that for some Ioncross configs

01:23 <Starwaster> O2 heaters in stuff I want to put LOX in

01:24 <Bornholio> oh hey i need to give you RP-0 config mods after i check them for RAR

01:28 <Bornholio> checking SSTU has somehow borked my proc fairings and thus borking pretty much all my stuff in my save. a save i have 16 outbound major missions going in and way too many hours up to this point. I must go cry

01:28 <Starwaster> T_T

01:29 <Starwaster> RP0 configs for RealActiveRadiators?

01:29 <Bornholio> not to self do not check prs on active install .sad

01:29 <Bornholio> oh hey Starwaster do you have a good 1.4.3 DRE going yet?

01:29 <soundnfury> Bornholio: did my url work after I fixed my iptables?

01:29 <Starwaster> this kind of sucks, I would LIKE to scale down the default max energy transfer to reasonable levels but I can't do it without fuxoring up people's games

01:29 <Bornholio> yes SNF

01:30 <soundnfury> that's a relief

01:30 <Starwaster> ah yes, and I need to push it out the door but I've been caught up in other matters like the need to MASTER THERMODYNAMICS FINALLY

01:30 <Bornholio> the pics are dark like batman dark

01:30 <Starwaster> AND GODDAMN ROVERDUDE KEEPS FUCKING IT UP FOR ME

01:31 <soundnfury> Bornholio: night tends to be dark. Not a lot I can do about that :S

01:31 <Bornholio> yelling doesn't help

01:31 <Starwaster> soundnfury that's not acceptable, you simply must do better

01:31 <soundnfury> oh OK I'll stellar ignition of Jupiter, 'k?

01:31 <Starwaster> bornholio I dunno it's helped me a bit... it was kinda cathartic

01:32 <Starwaster> sounds great :P

01:32 <soundnfury> mod request:

01:32 <soundnfury> Realistic Fusion

01:33 <Bornholio> it runs for 3ms then shuts down?

01:34 <Starwaster> how about a Planned Obsolescence Mod? It returns false on every version check

01:53 <Starwaster> Complex systems that work come from simple systems that work. They don't come from complex systems that don't work

02:01 <Bornholio> are you talking about ITER again :P

02:02 <Bornholio> what would a roverdude do if a roverdude did do dude

05:40 <BadRocketsCo> o/

05:49 <BadRocketsCo> Heh, everyone is doing their zzz

05:49 <ProjectThoth> BadRocketsCo: I just forget to look in the channel. :/

05:49 <BadRocketsCo> Hehe

05:49 <BadRocketsCo> That's okay

06:51 <BadRocketsCo> Hmm

06:51 <BadRocketsCo> I wonder what kind of payload a Atlas V PH2 could get into orbit

06:53 <ProjectThoth> PH2?

06:53 <BadRocketsCo> Yeah, phase 2

06:54 <BadRocketsCo> With 2 RD180

07:43 <lashtear> JPLRepo, I'm sure it's just a minor bad merge but https://github.com/KSP-RO/TacLifeSupport/blob/master/README.md is deeply unsettling to anyone who's seen <<<<<<<< conflict markers before.

10:52 <BadRocketsCo> o/

14:56 <Starwaster> Go. Hunt. Kill Skuls.

19:28 <Starwaster> bornholio do you know what company(ies) is/are involved with Kilopower?

21:12 <Bornholio> not off the top of my head starwaster but searching the 2015 awards...

21:12 <Bornholio> In this SBIR Phase II program Advanced Cooling Technologies, Inc. (ACT) proposes to develop titanium/water heat pipes suitable for Spacecraft Fission Power applications. NASA is currently examining small fission power reactors design, such as the Kilopower, which aims to provide roughly 1 kW of electric power. Kilopower plans to use titanium/water heat pipes to remove the waste heat from the cold end of the convertors. Previous water heat

21:12 <Bornholio> pipe designs for space fission power are not suitable, since they cannot operated in a vertical orientation, which is necessary for ground testing of Kilopower. The overall objective of the Phase I and II programs is to develop a titanium/water heat pipe radiator suitable for Spacecraft Fission Power, such as Kilopower. To meet this objective, the following items must be achieved: demonstrate the ability to transport heat over a long distance

21:12 <Bornholio> from the Stirling cold end to the radiator, design and fabricate a heat pipe radiator for integration into the Kilopower system and identify the best wick design for the varied operating conditions of the Kilopower system. The principle objective of the Phase II project will be to develop full-scale titanium water heat pipes that will be suitable for testing in the Kilopower demonstration unit.

21:12 <Bornholio> oops spam

21:12 <egg|zzz|egg> integration!

22:03 <Bornholio> Starwaster looks like a company called sunpower inc. is also one. other those two (ACT & Sunpower) its all LANL/NASA/DOE guys that i can see

22:28 <Starwaster> bornholio asking so I can figure out what company to put for the manufacturer

22:28 <Starwaster> also - *sigh* I thought I put in safeguards against this but right now my radiators are at -1,000% throttle

22:28 <Starwaster> also I think they might be generating power ?

22:29 <Bornholio> ooh very efficient

22:30 <Starwaster> oooo yeah they're putting out power alright. I shouldn't have more than 40 kW coming in and I've got like over 200

22:31 <Starwaster> I mean it SHOULD be possible for a cooling system to generate power: turbo Brayton turbine pulling heat out of a reactor and using it to drive turbines on its way to the radiators

22:31 <Bornholio> HIAD Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=163&v=RYT4YBB-Kgg

22:31 <Starwaster> but this isn't what I had in mind

22:31 <Bornholio> lol

22:32 <Starwaster> we really need to get someone to model a decent HIAD for us

22:32 <Starwaster> I could totally do that by the way but I don't know how to animate it. And I really don't have the time to learn right now. That's just not even on the horizon yet

22:32 <Bornholio> i just what a working OLDD version with the hard center, oh and a donut one

22:33 <Starwaster> I got into an argument with sal_vager once over the excessive mass of the stock inflatable.... he just couldn't handle the notion that they should be lighter

22:35 <Bornholio> yeah they don't give much mass budget to slowing down :(

22:37 <Bornholio> Need a IRDT for the rus-o-philes also

22:37 <Starwaster> it could be that they increase mass on everything to counteract some problem they perceive with the small planet and overpowered rocket engines and going to orbit... but it's murder on slowing down for reentry, even with stock aero

22:37 <Bornholio> and in comes the hail. .sigh

22:38 <Bornholio> I need HIAD over my house right now

22:38 <Starwaster> btw, DRE fixes the inflatable mass to reasonable levels

22:38 <Starwaster> has for like... ever.

22:40 <Starwaster> fuckin blueprints are so sexy

22:40 <Bornholio> yes, also needs RP-0 configs

22:41 <Starwaster> you know, I suspect that they might also have patterned the mass off of IRVE2.... except IRVE wasn't just the decelerator, it was payload too. And avionics

22:41 <Bornholio> sorry, needs RP-1 configs

22:41 <Starwaster> it kind of looks like they just took its total mass and scaled it up

22:41 <Bornholio> yeah they do that stuff

22:41 <Starwaster> what does, inflatables?

22:41 <Starwaster> what needs RP1 config?

22:42 <Bornholio> just like the NTR is based of the '62 paper NERVA

22:42 <Bornholio> the HIAD and all the radiator stuffs

22:43 <Starwaster> they shouldn't need much. Maybe look athe price tag, but if DRE is installed then everything else is what it should be even for RSS/RO/RP0, RP1, RP69105....

22:44 <Starwaster> mass, physics are all sufficient to mark the thing RSSROConfig

22:44 <Bornholio> and RP0 = TRUE

22:44 <Bornholio> plus RP-1 tech node

22:44 <Starwaster> well that was a cool video but all old news to me :(

22:45 <Starwaster> yeah, that I can't take the time to do.... tech nodes I'm aware I don't have anythign compatible there. Just haven't had the time to look at it :(

23:03 <Starwaster> goddamit I cant climb high enough onto my ISRU tester to restart the reactors

23:03 <Starwaster> fml

23:05 <Starwaster> from now on, all landers have to have backup solar AND ladders for engineer access

23:15 <Starwaster> oh for gawdsake, you can't start resource converters from EVA no matter how close you are.... is that right?

23:15 <Starwaster> wel now that is just fucked up

23:55 <Bornholio> tiny probe control for the win