ferram4 changed the topic of #RO to: Welcome to the discussion channel for the Realism Overhaul (meta)mod for KSP! Realism Overhaul Main Thread https://goo.gl/wH7Dzb ! RO Spreadsheet http://goo.gl/Oem3g0 ! Code of Conduct http://goo.gl/wOSv2M ! | Maximal & soundnfury's RP-1 Race Into Space Signup: http://bit.ly/2DEVm2i [15:01] <soundnfury> Straight Eight Stronk (and) RP-0/1 is basically "Space Agency Spreadsheet Simulator"
<soundnfury>
Pap: I am also in favour of "build a new launch pad: how big?" instead of fixed progression of sizes
<soundnfury>
however it is also reasonable to upgrade an existing pad (costing less than a new pad, but more than the difference between old and new)
<soundnfury>
as for options, how about "crew access arm"?
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<Pap>
Oooh, Crew Access Arm is good, I need to finish that Issue soundnfury
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<NathanKell>
Hey, congrats all!!!!
<ProjectThoth>
Hi NathanKell!
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<BadRocketsCo>
o/
<BadRocketsCo>
Uh, I need a little help with RSSVE
<BadRocketsCo>
I downloaded the release but I can not find the setting to disable volumetric clouds anymore
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<Bornholio>
RP-1 Probably needs a 1.01, CKAN puts in the wrong proc wings, also we need to get a non-beta release of kerbal renamer 1.3.1
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<Pap>
Bornholio: I removed the B9 version for now from the netkan so that should be fixed
<Pap>
I sent a note to the person who released the working one in order to get his on CKAN
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<soundnfury>
NathanKell|AFK: yay, you existed (briefly)! Hope all is well.
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<Starwaster>
DONE IT. I have taught MechJeb to properly manage vertical velocity on FinalDescent no matter what approach it uses. (i.e. shallow descent ala LM landing)
<Starwaster>
still needs a bit of work because it starts running into trouble under 500m but that's easy. The hard part will probably be targeted descents... the assumption MJ makes is that you're not going to be cancelling vertical velocity until you HAVE to
<soundnfury>
Starwaster: konrad r3d is still better :P
<Starwaster>
pap bornholio soundnfury ^^^
<Starwaster>
eh?
<Starwaster>
konrad who?
<Starwaster>
oh, why the hell does it want to do aplane change when I'm practically there alraedy
<soundnfury>
r3d: the 3-dimensional Retrograde Guidance console of konrad, my telemachus frontend
<soundnfury>
capable of targeted landings to within 0.001°
<Pap>
Konrad is nice
<Pap>
I am trying to do everyhing through kRPC now
<soundnfury>
hey Pap, with the release out (and hopefully an RO release coming soon™), how about starting a RIS game to showcase it?
<Pap>
I had asked people if they were interested in the Discord as well soundnfury
<soundnfury>
ideally including a player who can record / stream their game, like NathanKell did back in the original RIS game
<Pap>
I absolutely think we should
<soundnfury>
ooh yes I should hop on the discord
<Pap>
That would be idea
<Pap>
ideal
<Pap>
I think we should all migrate to the Discord
<Pap>
I am only on here now to talk to you Bornholio and Starwaster
<hoglahoo>
wow, and just leave me behind?
<soundnfury>
IRC stronk
<Mike`>
aw, more love for IRC :(
* soundnfury
gets back to reading _Hansard_
<hoglahoo>
I came here because the people on Discord were saying they should all migrate to IRC
<Mike`>
:D
<Starwaster>
soundnfury but can it do targeted landings when starting from a low altitude? (150x15 - descent initiation at periapsis)
<Starwaster>
i.e. the kind of descent profile used by the Apollo program
<soundnfury>
Starwaster: yes, that's how I do all of my descents
<Starwaster>
I'll have to check it out then
<Starwaster>
soundnfury which actually handles guidance? KONRAD?
<soundnfury>
... note that it's not automatic; it doesn't so much tell you what to do (or do it for you) as tell you what the result of your current course will be
<soundnfury>
(though it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to slap a gradient-descent solver on the front end, I've never felt the need for that)
<Starwaster>
ok so YOU are doing the landing, not KONRAD and not Telemachus
<Starwaster>
there's no actual guidance?
<soundnfury>
indeed
<soundnfury>
my apologies if that was not clear from my previous remarks
<soundnfury>
I might phrase it pithily as: konrad guides you, rather than your rocket
<Starwaster>
I see
<Bornholio>
pap i have issues with the jueveillia on monkey land err discord
<Pap>
Bornholio: it used to be bad, Theysen has locked it down
<Pap>
It is actually a good group of people
<Pap>
Also, I would make us a private room if we wanted it that no one else could see :)
<soundnfury>
Bornholio: is that supposed to say 'juvenilia'?
* soundnfury
scratches head
<Bornholio>
sideways keyboards for you
<Bornholio>
i type like a monkey scratchin its but
<Bornholio>
butt
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<Bornholio>
pap are you interested or have already started RP-1 forum thread?
<Pap>
Bornholio I am planning on it, but I want to try to get the manual done first so we can point them there and say RTFM