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<TwistenX>
shut up
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<TwistenX>
:)
<TwistenX>
:)
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<TwistenX>
:)
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<TwistenX>
:)
<TwistenX>
:)
<TwistenX>
lithobraking?
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<TwistenX>
anyways im outta here
<TwistenX>
time to have infinite fun
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<Guest43039>
wow
<Guest43039>
place really changed since the forum migration
<packbart>
what changed?
<Guest43039>
pretty dang empty
<Guest43039>
:)
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<XXCoder>
lol its lready pretty empty here
<XXCoder>
i first joined when this channel was over 800 people and text never stops
<packbart>
well, it's IRC. pretty much unknown today
<packbart>
the Reddit KSP Discord Thingy is quite active
<packbart>
try talking KSP on Usenet... ;)
<Althego>
hehe
<Izaya>
services die when they are murdered
<packbart>
but they aren't
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<packbart>
we're still here. and my NNTP server apparently still transfers Usenet articles between its peers. I just don't read them
<Izaya>
was mostly talking about certain ... competitors acting hostile towards IRC, the zombie state of many channels makes me sad
<packbart>
well, it's not what $people expect from their chat services nowadays
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<packbart>
<insert reaction.gif>
<packbart>
irssi doesn't even have a quick emoji selector
<packbart>
🤔
<Izaya>
my terminal can't even render whatever that is :D
<Althego>
thinking face emoji
<Althego>
the terminal can render it
<Althego>
you just need the font
<Izaya>
sure, it could, if I had any fonts with that glyph installed :p
<packbart>
it's standard since 2015
<Izaya>
I just install fonts that look nice for text, emoji don't tend to express anything important or interesting anyway
<packbart>
I'd disagree
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<Althego>
not used much in irc
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<Majin>
Fun is infinite!
<Majin>
セガエンタープライズの楽しさは無限大です。 -マジン。
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<Majin>
why does this website give out your ip address
<Majin>
isn't that kinda illegal
<Althego>
how else would you expect the packets to find you?
<darsie>
Which website?
<Althego>
i guess webchat
<Majin>
darsie: this website, dingus
<Izaya>
I'm not using a website
<Althego>
it is not a website
<Izaya>
don't even have a web browser open
<darsie>
idk what website you're talkind about?
<Majin>
darsie: this webchat** dingus
<Althego>
you are using a web client
<darsie>
You're in an IRC chat. IRC is not web, just as email is not a web site.
<Althego>
but for most people it is, because they use gmail through a browser
<Majin>
.
<darsie>
.
<Izaya>
,
<Majin>
what if i change my ip
<Althego>
right now?
<darsie>
Then your packets will be routed another way.
<Majin>
sure
<Althego>
the packets wouldnt find you and you would be disconnected
<Majin>
o
<Majin>
what packets
<Izaya>
poor lost packets
<darsie>
If you send an email, the headers may tell the recipient your IP.
<Majin>
is that bad
<darsie>
idk
<Izaya>
not usually
<Majin>
o ok
<Majin>
HIDE AND SEEK - ACT 1
<Izaya>
an IP address alone only really tells you which ISP that IP is currently controlled by
<Althego>
and in many cases approximate location on earth
<packbart>
darsie: those servers also fall under GDPR
<darsie>
If they're in the EU.
<packbart>
IRC flies deep enough under the radar so that nobody really cares
<Izaya>
it's kind of neat how every youtube video that advertises a VPN mildly degrades the trustworthiness of the whole enterprise
<darsie>
Or operated by an EU entity, I guess.
<Majin>
but before we continue this video...
<Majin>
A WORD FROM OUR SPONSOR
<Althego>
video killed the radio star
<Majin>
N O R D V P N
<darsie>
BTW, I and others log chat, including the IPs.
<Izaya>
friendly reminder that sponsorblock exists
<darsie>
I have 4 GB of logs.
<Izaya>
and that you should use it, because advertising rots your brain
<Majin>
i hate grammarly
<packbart>
yeah, I worked for PP and we could never figure out how NSAVPN could run with those small fees (and they give 100% to the affiliate)
<darsie>
Some logs are public.
<Majin>
it is literally 70% of my ads on youtube
<packbart>
darsie: I did not give you permission to store my chat texts :P
<darsie>
true
<packbart>
*calls lawyer*
<Majin>
THATS ILLEGAL
<packbart>
indeed, it probably would be
<darsie>
In what jurisdiction?
<packbart>
yours
<Majin>
#downwithdarsieparty on twitter
<darsie>
I don't do twitter.
<darsie>
or fb
<darsie>
or ig
<XXCoder>
nor jz?
<darsie>
what's that?
<Izaya>
fedi or bust
<XXCoder>
nonexistant site lol
<darsie>
I don't do whatsapp
<Althego>
jz sounds like asm mnemonic
<Izaya>
Jump if Zero
<darsie>
jump if zero
<XXCoder>
jump if zero
<darsie>
:
<darsie>
:)
<Majin>
jz sounds like a soundcloud rapper name
<XXCoder>
iz is winner, what wioth caps and all
<Althego>
but how did we get there?
<packbart>
through a call
* packbart
pops the stack
<Althego>
calli
<packbart>
iret
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<darsie>
There's a public log of an IRC channel with IPs: https://gnusha.org/logs/2008-03-27.log 21:23 -!- fenn_ [n=pz@adsl-76-252-191-250.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
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<darsie>
There's a public log of an IRC channel with IPs: https://gnusha.org/logs/2008-03-27.log 21:23 -!- fenn_ [n=pz@adsl-76-252-191-250.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap
<Majin>
(now i just need to get my hands on an Xbox Series XS for a reasonable price)
<Majin>
apparently you can launch yourself out of the solar system with only a velocity of ~5000 m/s at an altitude above Kerbin of 100-200km, and burning at Kerbin's prograde relative to Kerbol...
<Majin>
I wonder if this can be exploited :)
<flayer>
"only"
<Majin>
it's not that hard, nor expensive in funds
<Majin>
I did it with a Bobcat Engine, 5 Shrimp SRBs, and a Mite SRB
<Majin>
however, the satellite i launched is only ~3t
<flayer>
like your mom?
<Majin>
my mom is dead
<flayer>
just like the satellite isn't a living organism
<Majin>
who says?
<Majin>
you don't know what's inside the parts
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<kubi>
kindergarden?
<TwistenX2>
no
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<Mat2ch>
I loved Kindergarten :(
<Deddly>
That was weird, flayer
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<TwistenX>
"aerodynamics" is just a funny way to spell "more boosters"
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<TwistenX>
is it better to use 4 KS-25 Engines with a fuel tank or to just use the Mammoth Engine?
<raptop>
yay I guess
<TwistenX>
THANK YOU DEDDLY I'M SO HAPPY
<TwistenX>
WOOOOOOOO
<Deddly>
:)
<TwistenX>
(now i just need a Xbox Series XS, that's a reasonable and fitting price for what it's worth)
<raptop>
huh, same Isp, same overall thrust, but the Mammoth is 1 tonne lighter
<Deddly>
How much are they?
<TwistenX>
expensive
<raptop>
(So I guess it's that 1 tonne vs which has the best drag characteristics)
<TwistenX>
not as much as the PS5 tho
<Deddly>
How much is a PS5?
<Deddly>
Don't make me Google it, man
<TwistenX>
it's very unreasonable
<TwistenX>
crackheads on ebay tryna sell it for $3000 USD
<Althego>
also less part count
<darsie>
Deddly: links https:// are clickable with KVIrc.
<TwistenX>
part count only usually matters with frame rates and the kraken
<Althego>
in practically all clients. unless you are in irssi via putty, then the terminal is too dumb
<Deddly>
darsie, hmm? What link?
<darsie>
in the topic
<darsie>
bit.ly/ksp112update
<Deddly>
I'm on Hexchat
<Deddly>
Oh right
<darsie>
tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules
<raptop>
yeah, the links without an https:// aren't clickable for me (irssi+LXTerm) though the ones with are
<Deddly>
I can recommend Hexchat, by the way. Links work ;)
<Althego>
even without protocol part
* raptop
slaps hexchat around with unicode (especially characters off the BMP)
<TwistenX>
undertale 3
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<TwistenX>
6 MODS WOOOOOOOO
<Althego>
but sometimes it just doesnt want to open them, it knows they are links, but nothing happens. then i must right click
<Deddly>
Ooh Dman979, hey :)
<Dman979>
Behold! It is I, your Mod!
<raptop>
Hilight/copy/paste always works at least
<raptop>
Dman979: graphite? light water? heavy water?
<TwistenX>
Behold! I don't care.
<Althego>
lol
<Althego>
the moderator
<Dman979>
How do I ban someone again? Asking for a friend who doesn't care
<Deddly>
Whatever happened to Aplayer?
<TwistenX>
AAAAAAAHH
<Dman979>
They became Aformerplayer
* raptop
has no real idea. College maybe?
<Deddly>
Dman979, you type /ban *!*c-98-235-164-132.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
<TwistenX>
:(
<raptop>
wait, wrong sign
* TwistenX
forces raptop to EVA outside of his capsule while entering Eve
* Dman979
rotates raptop to land on his helmet and survive
* raptop
has apparently been kerbalized
<TwistenX>
no
<TwistenX>
stop
<Deddly>
Stop what?
<TwistenX>
he was supposed to burn in the hellscape of entering Eve's atmosphere
<Deddly>
Ah
<Deddly>
Apparently he was in the cold side of the air flow until the atmosphere slowed him down enough.
<TwistenX>
darsie already tried to kill me yesterday by jetpack deorbiting
<TwistenX>
however, using my insanely high iq, i was able to exploit the aerodynamics engine and slammed into the ocean at several times to speed of sound and freaking died
<Dman979>
Should have *landed* on your helmet
<TwistenX>
why does that save a kerbal??
<Althego>
because it is a kerbal
<Dman979>
Because it's a *helmet*
<Dman979>
It protects your *head*
<Dman979>
And if you land head-first, the head protects the rest of you
<TwistenX>
i dont think a spacesuit helmet would save you from smacking into the ground at mach 3
<Dman979>
Now, let's say you're not a Kerbal.
<TwistenX>
you die
<Dman979>
Let's say you're a tigger. In that case, you'd want to land on your tail.
<raptop>
kitty!
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
i didnt expect that
<Dman979>
Because tiggers are wonderful things. Their tops are made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of springs!
* TwistenX
shoots a tigger and turns them into the L-4 Landing Struts
<TwistenX>
:)
<Dman979>
You can't do that, they're an endangered species
<FLHerne>
Does the helmet thing still exist?
<TwistenX>
shut up it's not illegal if you don't get caught
<FLHerne>
TwistenX: in older KSP versions at least, Kerbals could survive impacts at terminal velocity on Kerbin so long as they landed on their head
<Dman979>
Still wouldn't work, TwistenX, because there's only one Tigger
<FLHerne>
leading to fun demonstrations of falling out of orbit
<FLHerne>
It would have made sense to remove that when they added parachutes
<TwistenX>
welcome to physics class where ksp makes no sense
<TwistenX>
and we can use these physics to ruin the game
<Dman979>
*improve
<TwistenX>
average normal ksp players vs average ksp kraken drive/exploit user
<TwistenX>
so you only need ~8500 m/s to fall into Kerbol
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<raptop>
!tell twistenx It's way easier if you exploit the Oberth effect and bi-elliptic transfers...
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<raptop>
dees: It's way easier if you exploit the Oberth effect and bi-elliptic transfers...
<dees>
yeah
<dees>
it's me, bees evil brother
<raptop>
[X] doubt
<Althego>
bee gees, not bee dees :)
* X
doubts
<dees>
dees nuts
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* raptop
ponders
<X>
Lol
<X>
I haven’t seen a troll in a long time.
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<raptop>
try something actually funny?
<TwistenX>
never
<Althego>
doesnt help
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<Althego>
that does
<darsie>
Why did I trust <Majin> apparently you can launch yourself out of the solar system with only a velocity of ~5000 m/s at an altitude above Kerbin of 100-200km
<raptop>
It's accurate if you're going in the right direction (if the statement isn't 100% clear)
<darsie>
I get a Kerbol escape trajectory at 2727.3 m/s from 71 km orbit.
<darsie>
Is it really that much worse at 200 km?
<raptop>
I don't think he means Δv
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<raptop>
hm
<darsie>
Did he mean total delta-v?
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<raptop>
No, as in that's how fast you're going at that altitude
<Althego>
they are ridiculously overpowered if you compare them to real ones
<Althego>
nevertheless i avoid using them
<darsie>
2000 N vs. 250 mN irl.
<TwistenX>
you also can only recharge EC but not Xenon Gas
<raptop>
Like 3 or 4 orders of magnitude higher TWR, so with clever design you can hover in Mun or lower gravity
<TwistenX>
star wars logic
<darsie>
Dawn orbited two asteroids, a firts due to ion engines.
<raptop>
Star Wars logic is that old movies about WW2 and samurai are cool
<raptop>
(And they are!)
<Althego>
at least until ww3
<darsie>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_(spacecraft) Dawn is a retired space probe that was launched by NASA in September 2007 with the mission of studying two of the three known protoplanets of the asteroid belt: Vesta and Ceres.[1]
<raptop>
^
<raptop>
Shame that they weren't able to pull off the Pallas flyby
<darsie>
With the propellant it carried, Dawn was able to perform a velocity change of approximately 11 km/s over the course of its mission, far more than any previous spacecraft achieved with onboard propellant after separation from its launch rocket.[58]
<TwistenX>
milk
<darsie>
Dawn finally launched from pad 17-B at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on a Delta 7925-H rocket[76] at 07:34 EDT,[77][78][79] reaching escape velocity with the help of a spin-stabilized solid-fueled third stage.[80][81] Thereafter, Dawn's ion thrusters took over.
<TwistenX>
ok
<raptop>
Ah, the best Delta II
<TwistenX>
there was a Titan rocket that had a bunch of SRBs
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<XXCoder>
;mission
<LunchBot>
XXCoder: You outsource the assembly of your rockets to Australia. You find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow!
<XXCoder>
thanks australia!
<TwistenX>
plot twist; it's all stolen gold
<Dman979>
;mission
<LunchBot>
Dman979: You try adding a mission with the ;mission command. You are swarmed by drones, but thankfully they are from Amazon and come bearing gifts.
<Dman979>
;mission
<LunchBot>
Dman979: You attempt to drive your solar sail vessel with a flashlight. Unfortunately your Linux install lacks the Arial.ttf fonts so you have no idea what your outcome in KSP is.
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<Dman979>
;mission
<LunchBot>
Dman979: You build a ship for the stated purpose of outrunning its own mass. A boat is in the way, and everyone complains until its interference is dealt with.
<Dman979>
;mission
<LunchBot>
Dman979: You attempt to aerobrake Jool in Eve's atmosphere. Your flightplan ends up being messed with by UmbralRaptor.
<Dman979>
cool command
<UmbralRaptor>
Dman979: you'll need more engines for the jool moving