00:11 <Eddi|zuHause> !mission add The reactor core is overheating! This is not a drill!

00:11 <LunchBot> Added mission: The reactor core is overheating! This is not a drill!

00:16 <darsie> done

00:17 <darsie> FLHerne: That's the seismometer, IIRC.

00:18 <darsie> .outcome add Someone drilled a hole in the reactor.

00:18 <LunchBot> Added outcome: Someone drilled a hole in the reactor.

00:24 <Izzy> if I need 1200m/s to get to low lunar orbit from LEO, I need 1200m/s to get back, right?

00:28 <darsie> Izzy: no

00:30 <darsie> Izzy: From KEO you need about 1000 m/s for a high orbit. Once you circularize there you're still relatively slow, so you don't need much dv to cancel your speed to get Pe down to 70 km.

00:31 <darsie> so to get back from high circular orbit you just need to reverse the circularization burn.

00:32 <Izzy> right, but then to re-circularise in LEO (am doing KSRSS) I need a ~1000m/s burn

00:32 <darsie> Yeah. Or aerobrake.

00:33 <Izzy> my spacecraft are not rated for atmosphere ;)

00:33 <darsie> Ohh, you mean LEO, low *Earth* orbit.

00:33 <darsie> no

00:33 <darsie> that would be more.

00:34 <Izzy> I mean, https://shadowkat.net/tmp/bc1b.jpg

00:35 <Izzy> going to need about 1300m/s either way, as the profile is circular orbit -> transfer -> circular orbit -> transfer -> circular orbit

00:37 <Izzy> well, I say the capsule isn't rated for atmosphere; it is, it's designed for reentry, but only a very shallow trajectory from a low orbit, as it's using the engine as a heatshield

00:37 <darsie> You could do 50 passes through hte upper atmosphere :).

00:38 <Izzy> I could, but I have better things to do with my time

00:38 <darsie> :)

00:38 <darsie> Ok, yeah, it's the same dv both ways, then.

00:52 <darsie> Solar system delta v map: https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/images/mission/deadfrog42.png

00:53 <darsie> 3120 m/s from LEO to Moon transfer.

01:04 <Izzy> https://media.shadowkat.net/media/251c3ae986cd21e9d8c1bd0439f230e3547bacab56ed7ea667847966f5c185d9.jpg

01:08 <Izzy> heh, the URL I had in my browser history was a discord embed, wonder if they'll migrate those in the KSRSS thread in time

08:00 <Mat2ch> For a short moment I was wondering why those dV numbers were so low...

12:00 <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

12:00 <LunchBot> You detect an unknown probe approaching Kerbin and send a mission to investigate. You somehow end up in Dilbert space.

12:01 <Althego> not hilbert but dilbert lol

12:23 <sandbox> !mission

12:23 <LunchBot> You consult with Lunchbot to launch a new startup. The market in raw materials crashes. Both in the sense that the supply causes a drop in prices, and the sense that the market is like 20 miles above the mantle and you just removed the crust supporting it.

12:27 <packbart> successful startup?

12:46 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on if you successfully rug-pulled.

12:46 <Eddi|zuHause> but you certainly disrupted the market

12:47 <packbart> there probably was a rug on that crust you pulled

20:47 <FLHerne> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/220137-introducing-for-science-major-content-update-out-in-december/

20:48 <FLHerne> finally /some/ progress on KSP 2 besides fixing some (but not all) of the most egregious bugs

20:48 <FLHerne> still not optimistic

20:52 <Mat2ch> well, it looks like they listend to the community and added a science mode.

20:54 <Mat2ch> But somehow it is just a copy of KSP1

20:54 <sandbox> Nothing is unpossible for SCIENCE!

20:55 <Mat2ch> And I hate the font. It's so hard to read.

21:04 <Pinkbeast> TBH it had not for a moment occurred to me that KSP2 didn't even have _science_

21:24 <FLHerne> yeah, it was basically the KSP demo except with a $60 price tag

21:25 <Mat2ch> Now it is the Alpha with a $60 price tag!

23:45 <Izzy> I wish KSP had a like, contract notification thinger, so I could see during flight what contracts were available

23:46 <Izzy> and ideally a noise when a new one pops up