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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You try to create a mission plan without harming Kerbals. Clone vats decant Kerbals you had killed by a mission. Again.
<Eddi|zuHause>
does killing kerbals hurt them? asking for a friend.
<xxcoder>
depends on how they was killed lol
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<Deddly>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You use drainage pipes after having run out of fuel lines. The crash was uneventful.
<Deddly>
Nominal crash FTW
<Althego>
hehe
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<Deddly>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
Peptide Cake, with mint frosting.
<Deddly>
MMMMmmmm!
<Althego>
hehehe
<Althego>
cellular peptide cake
<Mat2ch>
Data sends his regards.
<darsie>
.nextlunch add Müsli
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Added lunch: Müsli
<darsie>
.nextlunch add Müsli
<LunchBot>
"Müsli" is already a known lunch!
<darsie>
.nextlunch Müsli
<LunchBot>
Müsli.
<darsie>
.nextlunch ü
<LunchBot>
Reislinsengemüse.
<darsie>
:)
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.nextlunch add invasive feral Australian camel
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.nextlunch add Starch with proteins, fat, minerals, vitamins and fiber
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<sandbox>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You push tech advances at a rate faster than ethics can sometimes maybe keep up with. You run out of rations and start eating landing legs.
<Mat2ch>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
そば
<Mat2ch>
!nextlunch
<LunchBot>
Egg-fried rice on buttered toast with pepper.
<Mat2ch>
I wont neither
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<FLHerne>
.mission add A stranger asks you to steer their craft. You object that you have no idea how to operate one but are told "you can steer a boat and this is just like a space boat."
<LunchBot>
Added mission: A stranger asks you to steer their craft. You object that you have no idea how to operate one but are told "you can steer a boat and this is just like a space boat."
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<sandbox>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You hurt yourself in confusion while rummaging through your collection of RonCo products. Just past Max-Q, you discover that your FTS is really a Firmament Termination System.
<FLHerne>
.outcome add The world is a better place, not only for your direct contributions, but through the people you inspired. They will continue your work.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: The world is a better place, not only for your direct contributions, but through the people you inspired. They will continue your work.
<Deddly>
<FLHerne> Deddly: is "Rich" a lunch?
<Deddly>
I have no idea. it wasn't me
<Deddly>
It's no Swedish dish I've heard of
<Deddly>
FLHerne, is was darsie :)
<sandbox>
Rich?
<FLHerne>
so it was, sorry
<Deddly>
No worries
<Deddly>
!lunch add A large bowl of very rich deep-fried cookie dough ice-cream with waffles and drizzled with a generous dollop of golden syrup and butterscotch sauce.
<LunchBot>
Added lunch: A large bowl of very rich deep-fried cookie dough ice-cream with waffles and drizzled with a generous dollop of golden syrup and butterscotch sauce.
<Deddly>
Now THAT'S rich.
<darsie>
Rich is a lunch. Eat the rich.
<darsie>
FLHerne:
<FLHerne>
.lunch del Rich
<LunchBot>
"Rich" doesn't uniquely specify a lunch, deletion failed!
<FLHerne>
hm
<sandbox>
Rich Tea biscuits
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<Deddly>
I think FLHerne just discovered a vulnerability
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<Deddly>
!mission
<LunchBot>
Due to a merchandising agreement between Mel Brooks and George Lucas; your plan of a Spaceballs Space Program is denied. You are eaten by a Grue.
<Deddly>
Well that's unfortunate
<raptop>
There were probably some intermediate steps
<raptop>
Incidentally, I think the dicsord should do something similar with putting KSP1 above KSP2
<Pinkbeast>
The distinction between options 2 and 3 is not immediately obvious
<Deddly>
Go ahead and suggest that to Dakota, raptop
<Deddly>
Pinkbeast, I agree. I don't really know what it means myself
<Pinkbeast>
I asked, we'll see
<Deddly>
Ha, me too
<Deddly>
Exactly the same tiem
<Deddly>
time
<Pinkbeast>
jinx
<Pinkbeast>
aha and our old friend 502 Bad Gateway
<Althego>
hello darkness my old friend
<Deddly>
I've come to talk with you again
<raptop>
If there's a news cycle about the lunar gateway having a hardware issue, someone had better make a 502 error joke
<Althego>
a lunar gateway should be a circle, you step in here and you arrive at the moon
<raptop>
ah, yes, project stargate
<Althego>
lunar gateway for lunar getaway
<Deddly>
!mission add You attempt to make a lunar gateway that is just a circle for people to step through to arrive at the moon.
<LunchBot>
Added mission: You attempt to make a lunar gateway that is just a circle for people to step through to arrive at the moon.
<Deddly>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You ask someone what is their K/D on KSP. taniwha explodes, emitting all kinds of launchpads.
<Deddly>
He's actually still here in the channel.
<Mat2ch>
Why do I have the feeling Dakota wants to see the world burn and doesn't care anymore about what the management might say?
<sandbox>
my cat's food says "K/D"
<raptop>
Unless you're a cleric or necromancer, I'm pretty sure your cat's K/D is NaN
<Deddly>
Mat2ch, What makes you say that?
<Mat2ch>
Deddly: Keeping KSP2 at the top shows what the current important product is.
<Mat2ch>
Every manager will want to have the newest stuff at the top.
<Eddi|zuHause>
if i'm remembering stargate lore enough, a stargate on the moon would probably have the same basic coordinates as one on earth, and only one can be active at the same time
<Deddly>
Mat2ch, Interesting thought. Mind you, KSP 1 is a much more successful product, it would seem
<Mat2ch>
Deddly: Exactly. What does this tell us about the state of KSP 2...
<Deddly>
I think the state of KSP 2 is pretty obvious by now. We've seen picture shared of the community managers packing up their boxes.
<Deddly>
Of course, we don't know anything for sure beyond that
<Deddly>
But one of Dakota's boxes from packing his desk was labelled "Dakota's hopes and dreams"
<Mat2ch>
So Dakota will reorder the forum, throw away the key and leave.
<Deddly>
"¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "
<Mat2ch>
at last present for us.
<sandbox>
I used to be able to read katakana
<Althego>
i didnt say it would need to be a stargate, just a circle
<Althego>
the portals in outcast would work well too
<Mat2ch>
SDWH?
<Mat2ch>
Small diameter wormhole?
<Deddly>
The portals in Portal would work very well to get to the Moon.
<Althego>
as demonstrated in the game
<Deddly>
^
<Deddly>
They also work as an easy way to give the Moon an atmosphere
<sandbox>
that was kind of the whole point of the moon rocks
<Deddly>
!outcome add You discover that the Apollo missions were a secret clandestine government project to bring back material suitable for supporting stable portals.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: You discover that the Apollo missions were a secret clandestine government project to bring back material suitable for supporting stable portals.
<Mat2ch>
uh, the Moon would never keep an atmosphere. You have to build a sphere around the atmosphere first. ;)
<Althego>
it could keep an atmosphere if it was cold enough
<Mat2ch>
but how do we get the giant AC up?
<Deddly>
It could support an atmosphere for a while, right?
<Althego>
for a whikle is relative, probably thousands of years, that is long time in human terms
<Deddly>
Wikipedia says that NASA says that the Moon supported a relatively thick atmosphere for a period of 70 million years.
<Althego>
more than enough
<Deddly>
Relatively thick is relative
<Deddly>
Twice as thick as Mars' atmosphere is today
<Althego>
then not enough
<Deddly>
But NASAs portals don't have to stop there
<Deddly>
You just have to make sure the portals aren't ejecting the atmosphere at more than Lunar escape velocity
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<Eddi|zuHause>
70 million years is really not a long time
<sandbox>
that's how long it took to make Jurassic Park
<Deddly>
It's long enough for a studio to develop KSP 3 on location.
<Althego>
location? in a parallel universe with strange gravity and stufF?
<Deddly>
Who needs a parallel universe when you have an atmosphere on the Moon and an established portal there from the Earth?
<xxcoder>
long earth is interesting book series
<xxcoder>
you should read it
<xxcoder>
best? probably not but interesting concept indeed
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<Deddly>
Sounds like an interesting read
<Deddly>
I have never read Terry Pratchet. I'm told Discworld is definitely worth a read
<FLHerne>
yes, but it's quite variable in genre
<FLHerne>
the early ones are mostly-comedic parodies of things
<FLHerne>
later ones stand on their own feet and are generally better for it IMO
<FLHerne>
except a couple of late books where sadly I think the Alzheimers didn't help :-(
<FLHerne>
Long Earth is definitely neat
<Pinkbeast>
late books> it kind of came and went as he got more workarounds for his difficulties - Making Money is very much just Going Postal in a different hat, but Raising Steam is later and much better (IMAO)
<Pinkbeast>
Deddly: the first two are not very like the others, although they're worth a read
<Pinkbeast>
(but if you're not the kind of person who hates reading a series out of order (I am) I'd maybe not start with them)
<Deddly>
Hang on... I'm trying to get my head around the compound negatives there ;)
<Pinkbeast>
"If I didn't ask the guard on the right if he would not tell the guard who isn't on the left..."
<Deddly>
So... I AM the sort of person who doesn't like reading out of order, so I SHOULD start with the first books. Right?
<Pinkbeast>
Yes. But if you are that sort of person (like me) there's no point me suggesting a different order anyway :-)
<Deddly>
Ah :)
<Pinkbeast>
There are one or two series (like Hornblower) where I'd make an argument for order of publication not in-universe chronological, but in the hope that that would still satisfy the desire to read them in order
<Deddly>
I think I read Hornblower in pretty much the chronological order. I didn't know it was published in any other order
<Pinkbeast>
(Discworld doesn't have a completely clear in-universe chronological order so the confusion doesn't arise)
<Pinkbeast>
Very much; it started with _The Happy Return_.
<Deddly>
I think I started at Midshipman
<Pinkbeast>
This is why there are one or two oddities like Bush serving with Hornblower for the first time in The Happy Return but also being the viewpoint character in Lieutenant Hornblower
<Deddly>
It's been so many years since I read them I don't honestly remember
<Pinkbeast>
Well, it happens. (Also Midshipman's a funny book because he's not being The Man Alone in command, and Lieutenant a funny one because he's not the viewpoint character...)
<Mat2ch>
Deddly: I'm currently reading all of the Discworld books.
<Mat2ch>
Only thing to do, when it's too hot to work
<Deddly>
Heh
<Mat2ch>
Good books, good stories, not everyones taste probably, but oh well what is
<Pinkbeast>
cheese # this is not true, my dad can't stand cheese
<Mat2ch>
FLHerne: I'm currently in the middle. Will it get confusing?
<Pinkbeast>
Mat2ch: because of the (not quite) Alzheimers?
<FLHerne>
Pinkbeast: odd, Raising Steam is by far my least favourite Discworld book
<Pinkbeast>
FLHerne: Huh, well, de gustibus
<Mat2ch>
Pinkbeast: FLHerne hinted at something like this
<Pinkbeast>
Mat2ch: They won't get confusing; he never became too famous to edit, or at any rather unlike some other authors he let people edit him when he was famous. But you might think they're less good.
<FLHerne>
presumably the Hornblower conversation means I'm not the only Aubrey & Maturin fan here :p
<Pinkbeast>
FLHerne: I didn't particularly get on with Aubrey and Maturin, and - well - they're not doing the same thing. (I quite enjoy Drake's Leary-Mundy books, which are basically A&M in space)
<Pinkbeast>
not doing the same thing> other than reproducing some of Cochrane's exploits :-)
<FLHerne>
Deddly: re. Discworld starting with the first books is fine, just if you decide you hate it skip to, say, Guards! Guards! and try again
<FLHerne>
I love almost all of them, just for slightly different reasons
<Pinkbeast>
Mind you I did read an article in the CS Forester society magazine where the author says how much he prefers Hornblower to A&M, and I read along thinking yes, I agree, odd cripes-crikey writing style. Get to the end and it turns out it was written by Boris Johnson. I felt dirty.
<FLHerne>
hm, I haven't read those
<Pinkbeast>
The first one or two are in the Baen Free Library (and er, how can I put this, Drake was one of Baen sane authors) but time may be more the issue than money
<FLHerne>
obviously I've read Hornblower But In Space, Honor Harrington
<FLHerne>
at least until Weber forgot what he was doing and tried to do Tom Clancy In Space
<Pinkbeast>
Her transition from "competent officer" to "space Jesus"
<Pinkbeast>
If your protagonist makes Kimball Kinnison look like an underachiever you might have a problem
<FLHerne>
tbf, I get the impression that he realized that problem and sidelined her a bit
<FLHerne>
after At All Costs or whenever
<FLHerne>
but then it all gets a bit aimless
<Pinkbeast>
Even then he can't drop it! There's one of the academy books where it turns out someone has smashed a bunch of records "but not the sailplane record set by Duchess Harrington" and what, does she literally have to be the best at _everything_?
<Pinkbeast>
I think At All Costs is the one where the final battle is like the end of a Master of Orion game where you have a crushing technological advantage and just press the "blow up their ships" button and that's moderately fun in a game where you built up to it but it's not very good reading, even compared to the missile spreadsheets from previous books
<FLHerne>
to be fair, the sailplane record was in the very first book
<Mat2ch>
Pinkbeast: The Boris Johnson?!
<Pinkbeast>
... and it's such a pity, the battle in _On Basilisk Station_ is a corker
<Pinkbeast>
FLHerne: Right. But why can no-one beat it?
<Pinkbeast>
Mat2ch: I'm afraid so
<FLHerne>
her plaque for it gets slightly melted on the first HMS Fearless
<Mat2ch>
Pinkbeast: So another politician how should have stuck with doing art...
<FLHerne>
eh, it makes a nice callback
<Pinkbeast>
TBH I think the Bahzell books are the best expression of Weber's Author Sue problem; at the start of the first book we find out that the Riders of Rohan^W^W^W horse dudes have a special kind of "windrider" with a telepathic link with their intelligent horses (paging Mercedes Lackey) and since Bahzell is from the Horse Stealer (and eater) hrad... orcish clan, natural enemies of not-the-Rohirrim...
<Pinkbeast>
... the experienced Weber reader knows immediately that by the end of the book, Bahzell will be a windrider
<Pinkbeast>
Mat2ch: I think it's against channel rules for me to express my opinion of Johnson in more detail, but yes :-)