egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
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<UmbralRaptop>
Blarg. GPA is just barely high enough to keep RA position.
<UmbralRaptop>
Also, my radial velocities seem weirdly inconsistent between stars now.
<kmath>
<bofh453> Oh my GODS the Russian/Soviet Anthem contains *almost exactly* the Pachelbel Canon in D progression. ⏎ ⏎ It's I V vi i… https://t.co/uMJWlSXnng
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<UmbralRaptop>
iximeow: To be a bit nitpicky, it looks like that Altair paper is measuring rotational velocity, rather than radial velocity. Still nifty, though.
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<kmath>
<rmayoff> @ubsanitizer Hot take: `🐱` is the natural choice for concatenation. Also, gonna go with `🤐` for the zip function.
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: can't you just pick a random initial state which lies on each orbit?
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: what do you mean
<bofh>
like just any initial state that's not invalid should work, no?
<UmbralRaptop>
exact alignment being off can do back things via resonances, right? *eyes Jool*
<UmbralRaptop>
Maybe pick an alignment based on transit times?
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: define "work"
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: also define "invalid"
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: I mean, yes, using the observations to get a state would work, also it entails doing what they did in the paper, some sort of MCMC fancy thing
<egg|zzz|egg>
or is that МCMC
<egg|zzz|egg>
!u МCMC
<Qboid>
U+041C CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EM (М)
<Qboid>
U+0043 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (C)
<Qboid>
U+004D LATIN CAPITAL LETTER M (M)
<Qboid>
U+0043 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (C)
<UmbralRaptop>
hrm
<UmbralRaptop>
;8ball 🔪 papers that don't include epoch in their orbital elements?
<kmath>
UmbralRaptop: Very doubtful
<UmbralRaptop>
And yes, making the first M Cyrillic is very Principia.
<egg|zzz|egg>
we're not really into acronyms so it would probably just be МарковChainMonteCarlo
<kmath>
<danielapai> In a cool new study led by @GijsMulders we show that the Solar System is an outlier: >97% of systems have inner pla… https://t.co/I5f33EXZRF
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: I think it's not just an epoch, it's also that it's some sort of ensemble mean so probably not as a specific system state?
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: any initial state that is observationally possible. i.e. the planets are all on their elliptical orbits that coincide with the mean motion elements?
<bofh>
I mean surely we have apsides for TRAPPIST-1
<egg|zzz|egg>
observationally possible means you get the same transit timings
<egg|zzz|egg>
which you can do, but that's a big nasty optimization problem on the initial state
<egg|zzz|egg>
hence the MCMC
<egg|zzz|egg>
s/M/М/
<Qboid>
egg|zzz|egg meant to say: hence the МCMC
<bofh>
and by "not invalid" I mean ones for which when you then run the ensemble, it doesn't wildly diverge at any forward point Bop/Jool style
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<egg|zzz|egg>
you can get a state that has roughly the right periods, but is distinguishable from the real thing by TTV
<egg|zzz|egg>
and, well, then it's not the real thing :-p
<egg|zzz|egg>
but finding elements by TTV requires doing TTV analysis, and we're lazy
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<bofh>
so IMHO all that's necessary is the periods being correct respective to each other :P
<egg|zzz|egg>
yes but how correct
<bofh>
as in the resonances are stable and constant
<kmath>
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<kmath>
YouTube - Up on Mt. Money-Laundering - Yoshi Commits Tax Fraud
<egg|zzz|egg>
today's discovery by Thomas: this IRC network has no privacy policy so it's not clear what you should consider personal data under 2016/679 :D
<UmbralRaptor>
SnoopJeDi: As in there will be a nuclear war?
<whitequark>
APlayer: it's dead
<whitequark>
use another one
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptor, 26th CGPM but hey maybe
<APlayer>
It works on another PC, that's the weird part
<SnoopJeDi>
With Planck's constant now sufficiently sorted out, it makes sense to shift away from "defining units"
<kmath>
<johnregehr> happiness is putting down my laptop and noticing that someone installed himself while I wasn't paying attention https://t.co/6fuQLYmB8Z
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<bofh>
so I've literally never compulsively cleaned/tidied/organized while on any dose of stimulants, and it's not as if I haven't taken huge doses in the past.
<bofh>
it's, like, an utterly alien activity for me in that state
<bofh>
like why clean when you can read ALL THE ACADEMIC PAPERS
<egg|df|egg>
bofh: to have a place where you can put your sorted library of ALL THE ACADEMIC PAPERS, clearly
<egg|df|egg>
bofh: tbh having the dwarves write everything on quires and never binding them makes this very academic
<egg|df|egg>
bofh: they're papers
* egg|df|egg
stares at the endless stream of visiting scholars
<egg|df|egg>
no goblins so far though :-/
<UmbralRaptor>
egg|df|egg: quires are preprints?
<egg|df|egg>
UmbralRaptor: well do you usually read papers in codices
<UmbralRaptor>
They're usually bound in latex and adobe.
<egg|df|egg>
a marksdwarf is biting a gray langur
<egg|df|egg>
UmbralRaptor: still no goblin scholars..
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<bofh>
egg|df|egg: nice
<egg|df|egg>
bofh: ?
<bofh>
at the dwarves writing academic papers
<egg|df|egg>
ah
<egg|df|egg>
bofh: yes but no goblins :-/
<UmbralRaptor>
Proposal: Nomal memorial scholarship.
<bofh>
^
<egg|df|egg>
UmbralRaptor: should I make a new embark near a dwarven civ. that has a lot of goblins
<egg|df|egg>
but then that probably requires a bit of worldgen to find a heavily goblined civ
<egg|df|egg>
which civilization did Nomal come from again
<egg|df|egg>
the Glaze of Obstacles says the backlog
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<egg|df|egg>
a kea has stolen some crossbow bolts
<egg|df|egg>
UmbralRaptor: huh the glaze of obstacles was only 10 % goblins?
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