egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<UmbralRaptor> eek
<bofh> ...also in retrospect uh, so my thoughts with so many of the stimulant studies in mice for me is "okay, DRIs even at high doses aren't really a locomotor stimulant at all, at least for me" and then I realize just how common of an occurence "yeah I felt like walking 4km for no reason" is for me and now I don't know what to think.
* iximeow seconds UmbralRaptor's eek
<iximeow> egg|phone|egg: have you considered picking apart the save logic?
<iximeow> (unsure if that would be native code or c#)
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: I'm going to go with "bodies are weird"
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: agreed and prolly same.
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<Iskierka> cambridge is a long way
<bofh> Yeah but there's a train connecting it and London
<bofh> https://twitter.com/AlexFGoldberg/status/994780064968560641 on a tangent, I can't stop giggling at this.
<kmath> <AlexFGoldberg> @KitchenChemProf @Chemjobber Mechanism dog should participate in a mechanism though https://t.co/VneFPSoLLz
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<UmbralRaptor> "Dog Mechanism" sounds almost like some weird HEP thing.
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<kmath> <Anne_Kreft> Hello academia, let me present to you today's German word of the day: verschlimmbessern - making something (a manus… https://t.co/NTWDhdmJJ2
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<egg|phone|egg> !Wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a driven 蛋
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<egg> !wpn bofh, whitequark, Iskierka, et al.
* Qboid gives bofh, whitequark, Iskierka, et al. a coastal file
<egg> UmbralRaptor: yeah in the vicinity of ANBO a car is useful, for the acquisition of food
<egg> UmbralRaptor: speaking of which I should probably learn to drive >_>
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a LALR(1) ham radio
<Iskierka> bofh: london is a long way
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<egg> whitequark: okay so KSP's config node parsing becomes ~5x slower when I store base 32768 instead of hex
<egg> what horrors are they doing in their parser
<egg> !wpn Iskierka
* Qboid gives Iskierka a barreled cannon with a measure attachment
<egg> anyway, we'll stay with hex then >_>
<egg> iximeow: it's all C#
<egg> !wpn Iskierka
* Qboid gives Iskierka a hyperbolic detector/e_14159 hybrid
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a central valve/lamp hybrid
<egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a separable photothyristor which strongly resembles a hammer
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a descending warhead-like kindle
<B787_300> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a Pauli hyperboloid
<egg> !wpn B787_300
* Qboid gives B787_300 an imaging Helmholtz guillotine with a taikonaut attachment
<B787_300> Well
<B787_300> I think my weapon beats yours...
<egg> !pet a B787-300
* Qboid pets a B787-300
<B787_300> !cook egg
<B787_300> Oh that should totally be a command
* B787_300 scrambles egg
<B787_300> So what was tjat about KSP parser being shitty?
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg && B787_300
* Qboid gives egg && B787_300 an ignited sharp crank which strongly resembles a haversine
* egg ponders how to get UmbralRaptor to ANBO
<egg> B787_300: somehow if I dump the same amount of data in CJK characters and other random bits of the BMP it takes 11 s to parse instead of 2,5
<egg> (and I mean, the logic of their parser really isn't pretty, but that's a different question)
<UmbralRaptor> I wonder if this means saves it craft with non-ASCII names load noticably slower.
<egg> dunno
<egg> I think it's going to be at the line level though, it starts with a line array
<egg> so only the lines with the craft name would be affected, not the whole save?
<egg> hopefully
<egg> !wpn коте
* Qboid gives коте a trivial DDOS which strongly resembles a jeffries tube
<UmbralRaptor> "What do you mean a housecat took down our server?"
<egg|phone|egg> 喵
<UmbralRaptor> !pet egg|phone|egg
* Qboid pets egg|phone|egg
<egg> UmbralRaptor: bofh: the SNCF metric is a thing >_>
<egg> bofh: ah they call it the Paris metric in english https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_tree#Simple_examples
<bofh> LOL
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<UmbralRaptor> SNCF?
<egg> !acr -add:SNCF Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français
<Qboid> egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a greebled ruby
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a ducted breadboard
<egg> !wpn whitequark, коте, and the котяchrome kitten
* Qboid gives whitequark, коте, and the котяchrome kitten a Riemann bracket
* egg pokes bofh with a doubledoubledoubledoubledoubledoubledoubledouble
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<UmbralRaptor> egg: Somewhere in San Francisco, a burger join explodes.
<egg> ?
<bofh> egg: oh, right. sorry, let me get to that right now.
<egg> !pet bofh
* Qboid pets bofh
<egg> UmbralRaptor: phl's trousers smell like ANBOcat
<UmbralRaptor> uh
<bofh> What the heck is a greebled ruby anyhow?
<egg> not sure, I'm no jeweler
<bofh> !wa define greeble
<Qboid> bofh: greeble (English word) | definition: noun | a small piece of detailing added to break up the surface of an object and add visual interest, particularly in movie special effects
<bofh> Ahh.
<UmbralRaptor> Probably more useful as an abrasive than a gem.
<bofh> 14:21:51 <@egg> (and I mean, the logic of their parser really isn't pretty, but that's a different question)
<bofh> out of morbid curiosity, how horrifying is it?
<egg> Sarbian is more qualified to answer that one, having built a Turing complete language on top of it
<egg> bofh: but, um. it operates on a List (C#'s word for vector) of lines, and the first step is to do some formatting to put { and } on their own lines, by *insertion* in the List
<egg> bofh: so conceptually, there's the fact that instead of having tokens they just format before parsing so some of the tokens are on new lines; algorithmically, every time you have a { which is not on its own line, they do an operation which is linear in the number of lines
<bofh> uh.
<bofh> this is kind of horrifying
<egg> bofh: I mean they don't actually format a file, just their array of lines, but still
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<egg> UmbralRaptor: so same but with 128 patties
<UmbralRaptor> hah
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<egg> !wpn awang
* Qboid gives awang a Python javelin
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a war-surplus bolt
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a FORTH
<egg> UmbralRaptor: hm that war-surplus bolt makes me want to play some DF
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: I misread that as "people [are] more useful as an abrasive than a gem" & was going to agree...
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: eek
<kmath> <mcclure111> This looks relatable https://t.co/YROX3eMLsJ
<kmath> <tom_forsyth> @paniq @matiasgoldberg @zeuxcg @WritNelson I approve this message. Which means I am his super-versor.
<kmath> <sigfig> @orthonormalist society is only useful as propellant let's be honest
<kmath> <paniq> I would like to suggest a campaign to stop using the term "quaternion" in gamedev and start using "versor", since u… https://t.co/PZTEnGgvjx
<egg> principia should do that tbh
<egg> although our Quaternion is a proper quaternion
<egg> and then we wrap it in a Rotation
<egg> so meh
<bofh> what's the difference between quaternions as a representation of rotation matrices in R^3 & actual quaternions?
<bofh> i.e. a unit quaternion is still a quaternion, just restricted to the unit ball >_>
<kmath> <f1ac5> rawr! https://t.co/IeSjcSdY6v
<egg> bofh: yes, but game engines have quaternions without operator + https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Quaternion.html
<egg> (also the word slerp is horrifying
<egg> )
<egg> (i mean so is lerp to start with)
<egg> !pet UmbralRaptor
* Qboid pets UmbralRaptor
<bofh> egg: I mean the action that lerp does is pretty meh compared to non-shite interpolation algos so
<egg> bofh: it's more the word that annoys me
<egg> UmbralRaptor: or maybe it's just that ANBOcat smells like denim
<bofh> !pet egg
* Qboid pets egg
<iximeow> !pet bofh
* Qboid pets bofh
<UmbralRaptor> denimcat?
<egg> !pet bofh
* Qboid pets bofh
<egg> !pet iximeow
* Qboid pets iximeow
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh an interrobang
<iximeow> ?!
<egg> ‽
<egg> ⸘‽
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<egg> !wpn -add:adj Europlug
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
<egg> !wpn -add:adj Schuko
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
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<egg> UmbralRaptor: also should I play some DF
<UmbralRaptor> Hm
<UmbralRaptor> !u ⁉?!‽⸘‽
<Qboid> U+2049 EXCLAMATION QUESTION MARK (⁉)
<Qboid> U+003F QUESTION MARK (?)
<Qboid> U+0021 EXCLAMATION MARK (!)
<Qboid> U+203D INTERROBANG (‽)
<Qboid> U+2E18 INVERTED INTERROBANG (⸘)
<Qboid> U+203D INTERROBANG (‽)
<UmbralRaptor> egg: do leap seconds make Nomal anxious?
<egg> UmbralRaptor: probably
<egg> UmbralRaptor: wondering whether I should play some more nomal or make a new fort with a new DF version
<UmbralRaptor> I suppose at some point, we'll need a new university^Wfort.
<UmbralRaptor> Exercise for the reader: tell the difference between an air quality alert, and the phone being a WiFi hotspot. https://photos.app.goo.gl/KcssoIUyBJ3Cthkq1
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<egg> !choose new university|nomal|zzz
<Qboid> egg: Your options are: new university, nomal, zzz. My choice: zzz
<egg> ;choose new university|nomal|zzz
<kmath> egg: zzz
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<UmbralRaptor> Bad bots!
<egg|zzz|egg> stabbity choose
<UmbralRaptor> Uh
<UmbralRaptor> University?
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: a new fort?
<egg|zzz|egg> where
* egg|zzz|egg downloads a new DF
<UmbralRaptor> Hm. Where would be interesting…?
<UmbralRaptor> Evil mountains?
<egg|zzz|egg> D:
<egg|zzz|egg> exactly what kind of university is that,
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: world size
<UmbralRaptor> Medium
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: what about the other settings? all medium & minerals sparse?
<UmbralRaptor> sparse means relying on goblinite?
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: sparse is the default
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: (very rare, rare, sparse, frequent, everywhere)
<UmbralRaptor> ah, yeah, sparse.
<egg|zzz|egg> emeecamo
<egg|zzz|egg> the eternal universes
<UmbralRaptor> A silly name, given how often DF universes are <1000 years old ?
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a Maxwell-Boltzmann canonical thyristor which vaguely resembles a queue
* UmbralRaptor attempts to calculate the Free Energy of the thyristor.
<egg|zzz|egg> The Dwarven Hillocks of Ziriloddom / The Null Hill
<egg|zzz|egg> currently at year 211
<UmbralRaptor> This fort will have lots of NaN references, won't it?
<egg|zzz|egg> not making a fort yet, still waiting for history
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: okay reached the year 250
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: https://i.imgur.com/353XSL5.png
<UmbralRaptor> Yay
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: there are 21 403 codices and scrolls in the world
<egg|zzz|egg> "The Phases Uncovered", a 71-page hematite-bound manual concerning the phases of the moon
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: gotta copy them all?
<egg|zzz|egg> eggsactly
<egg|zzz|egg> "Choose the Stars" on the creation of star charts
<egg|zzz|egg> Treatise on the Path of the Moon
<egg|zzz|egg> Reproduction in the modern era
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: "More Moon"
<egg|zzz|egg> written by an elf
<egg|zzz|egg> in the same place as the phases uncovered apparently
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: We must construct additional moons.
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<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: okay so where should I put my fort
<egg|zzz|egg> (see world map above)
<UmbralRaptor> Mountains make for good observatories, right? >_>
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: good point
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: what embark size
<egg|zzz|egg> (x64 DF!)
* UmbralRaptor would assume that max is best, barring bugs?
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: prepare for the journey carefully | play now
<egg|zzz|egg> wait I want to prepare to give it a name right
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<UmbralRaptor> I think so.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: should I spend all my points on making them scholars
<egg|zzz|egg> >_>
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: well, there's still *some* need for things like mining and farming. Make them post-docs?
<UmbralRaptor> <_<
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: okay so I have 10 point to spend on each and at most 5 points on each skill, so I guess I can have miner-astronomers and farmer-mathematicians,
<UmbralRaptor> :D
<egg|zzz|egg> hm I probably want to make them all at least novice reader-writers
<egg|zzz|egg> so, a miner-astronomer, a miner-chemist, a carpenter-optics engineer, a mason-mathematician, a grower-geographer, and two students: a papermaker and a bookbinder
<egg|zzz|egg> this sounds like the setup to a joke
<UmbralRaptor> Heh
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: what should the fort and the group be called, and what should its symbol be
* UmbralRaptor ponders something involving a moon.
<kmath> <whitequark> #catcognition via @alt_kia https://t.co/elXl4UOTRT
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: I guess I should bring some cats?
<UmbralRaptor> The symbol should be a cat staring at a moon?
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: probably. Are catsplosions still a problem?
<egg|zzz|egg> how can that possibly be classified as a problem
<UmbralRaptor> Depends on CPU load.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: so, now, a name for the fort and a name for the group
<UmbralRaptor> Hrm. Some sort of institute?
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: "watchfulmirror the gaze of obscurity"?
<egg|zzz|egg> hm, lens is a word too
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: lensmirror :-p
<UmbralRaptor> seems good.
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: cat!
<kmath> <treelobsters> Shelby got her first #KittyCatKrate today. Pretty sure there's catnip in these things... https://t.co/EzxrX2Kld8
<egg|zzz|egg> "watchfulmirror the lens of universes"
<egg|zzz|egg> cat!
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: okay so that's the name of the place, now for the name of the group...
<egg|zzz|egg> or maybe I could just call the place watchfulmirror and the group the lens of universes
<UmbralRaptor> Sounds good.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: "the clear lens of stars"
<UmbralRaptor> Hm
<egg|zzz|egg> now to see whether it crashes because I picked a giant embark, I guess
<UmbralRaptor> pls don't crash
<UmbralRaptor> ;8ball Will watchful mirror the lens of universes survive the winter?
<kmath> UmbralRaptor: It is decidedly so
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: hm, the highest point is really in a corner of the map
<egg|zzz|egg> should I dig into the mountains or down from the valley?
<egg|zzz|egg> I guess if I want to use the mountains for observation I should go towards them
<egg|zzz|egg> but then there's no real peak on the map
<UmbralRaptor> Hrm
<egg|zzz|egg> (admittedly they study astronomy from caves but still)
<egg|zzz|egg> okay there's a peak that reaches just above the treeline, I can probably build a tower on top
<UmbralRaptor> eggscellent.
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<kmath> <Tomatenkiwi> #ESC2018 #ESCalation2018 https://t.co/d3XSfXE6pl
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: um, the game seems frozen
<UmbralRaptor> meep
<egg|zzz|egg> nevermind it unfroze