egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptor: new world: Dathaathira "The Ageless Plane"
<UmbralRaptor>
egg|zzz|egg: idea: DF + Planescape
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptor: we should still try to get you to ANBO sometime, if not for this conference >_>
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptor: is there a conference in france
<egg|zzz|egg>
or maybe we can hold the kspacademia conference as bofh suggests :-p
<UmbralRaptor>
EPRV IV will be in Zürich, IIRC.
<egg|zzz|egg>
when is that?
<UmbralRaptor>
But that's a few years out.
<UmbralRaptor>
Hm. Most of the channel is US=based.
<UmbralRaptor>
(For the purposes of this, bofh is not Canadian)
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<bofh>
UmbralRaptor: I mean I'm US-based for at least the next 1-2 years since I'm in IL doing a PhD :P
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptor: yeah but bofh wanted to go to paris so,
<bofh>
I mean I enjoy travel a *lto*, just often don't have the budget for it.
<bofh>
...
<bofh>
I enjoy it a *lot*, I don't enjoy LTO very much.
<UmbralRaptor>
LTO?
<bofh>
link-time optimization
<bofh>
!add -acr:LTO Link-Time Optimization
<bofh>
!acr -add:LTO Link-Time Optimization
<Qboid>
bofh: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<kmath>
<✔dakami> “We treat all birds in a region as a sort of mesh network of reflectors. We use it to anonymously pirate large amou… https://t.co/tQPsIddz2C
<egg|cell|egg>
Rqou, see backlog
<rqou>
i guess i'm not a real academic because i don't actually know how to cite that :P
<Ellied>
a short comic I drew on the whiteboard to illustrate why you can't get quarks in isolation by trying to pry baryons apart
<rqou>
heh nice
<rqou>
what's "the deal" with all sorts of people drawing all kinds of comics explaining things lately?
<rqou>
e.g. @sailorhg, the "algorithms explained IKEA way," some other birbsite person making "low level systems concepts" comics, etc.
<rqou>
is this just "the new hotness?"
<bofh>
I think so.
<Ellied>
I thought it was a thing ever since xkcd started doing it
<rqou>
but xkcd was never seriously trying to explain something
<rqou>
oh you mean thing explainer?
<Ellied>
there have been serious explanations interspersed throughout xkcd for a while IIRC
<Ellied>
but yeah comics specifically for the explanation of things and not primarily humor might be a newer fad
<rqou>
unfortunately i've found many of these to be oversimplified
<Ellied>
yeah
<rqou>
but it's an interesting idea
<Ellied>
fwiw my quark comic was primarily intended to be humorous and not so much informative
<Ellied>
mostly it was to explain to my friends "here's why I keep cracking up whenever people start talking about QCD; I promise it's not because they're saying something wrong"
<rqou>
there are fun illustrations everywhere, but there's still text like traditional lecture slides
<Ellied>
cool
<rqou>
i never had to experience the old version, but i was told the previous version of the class _sucked_
<rqou>
it was a giant pile of boring, intimidating math
<rqou>
which then got rebooted with new fun illustrations and projects centered around controlling AI pacman entities in various scenarios
<Ellied>
rebooting classes with new methods is fun
<Ellied>
we're about to overhaul our electronics curriculum here, and start offering an electronics minor
<rqou>
we rebooted ours recently
<Ellied>
right now we're teaching digital electronics with TTL 74-series chips in CDIP packages purchased in the 80s or 90s
<rqou>
i'm not sure i'm entirely happy with it, but supposedly it fixes many existing problems
<rqou>
heh we just have a ginormous "everything you ever wanted to know about digital" class
<rqou>
which is hard AF
<Ellied>
my prof wants to at least bring in Arduinos and RPis since it's 2018 and nobody builds things with CDIP 74s anymore
<rqou>
at the intro level we used to have a "traditional circuits class with KVL/KCL, bode plots, op amps, etc" and a "traditional signals/linear systems class using frequency-domain techniques"
<rqou>
now somehow they've completely mixed together and redone this material
<rqou>
the project/lab uses msp430 now
<rqou>
but they removed "you need to design and lay out and solder your own PCB"
<rqou>
i guess that just wasn't very good use of time?
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<Ellied>
we're just about to add PCB development to ours lol
<rqou>
some new prof tried introducing RPis into the intro comp arch class and it was a disaster
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<rqou>
(previously it was in a mips simulator)
<Ellied>
whatsit with EE programs and MIPS anyway? is that really the best architecture to start with?
<rqou>
apparently the RPi tooling for teaching low level "comp arch type concepts" is just too immature to give to beginning-level students
<rqou>
a bunch of mips got replaced with risc-v now
<Ellied>
we're not an engineering school by any means, so our program is really just seeking to give people a bunch of hands-on electronics experience and enough theory to understand what they're doing. we'll be skipping the usual "spend six months doing nothing but network analysis" thing and probably not bothering with assembly or low-level systems architecture either, at least initially
<rqou>
i think they killed "spend six months doing nothing but network analysis" here too but for different reasons
<rqou>
namely that when presented the traditional way too many people didn't understand "the point"
<rqou>
low level systems architecture is staying for sure though since we're apparently a $FANCY_SCHOOL
<rqou>
(according to whitequark :P )
<Ellied>
our idea is more "learn how you can use electronics to help yourself out in your field" and less "become an electrical engineer"
<Ellied>
Strapping Arduinos To Your Problems 110
<rqou>
heh apparently that's increasingly popular
<rqou>
i suppose it beats using some crappy expensive proprietary instrumentation setup
<Ellied>
sure does
<Ellied>
I'm definitely here for getting non-engineers more confident with hardware in any case
<rqou>
apparently I'm awful at that
<rqou>
i have a terrible idea of what non-EEs actually know/don't know
<SnoopJeDi>
Ellied, LOL
<SnoopJeDi>
that's an incredible comic, I will have to share that with my colleagues :)
<rqou>
so I'm definitely guilty of saying things like "just/simply/obviously <xyz>"
<SnoopJeDi>
rqou, I set my vimrc up so that "clearly" and "obviously" are backlit in red as if they were syntax errors
<bofh>
SnoopJeDi: good idea, I'm legit stealing that.
<SnoopJeDi>
bofh, ever since I saw http://proselint.com/ the idea of using programming QOL tech to help prose has been knocking loosely around in my head.
<iximeow>
SnoopJeDi: what's the vimrc incantation for that?
<UmbralRaptor>
Apropos nothing: A 532 nm laser focused with Keck would give a spot >67 km in radius at 4.2 au. This seems more useful for playing death star, rather than building a giant chemcam to zap Europa.
<iximeow>
speaking of space
* iximeow
tries to find somewhere around here that isn't clouds
<UmbralRaptor>
May I suggest evaporating the clouds with a giant laser?
<iximeow>
please and thank you
<whitequark>
UmbralRaptor: death star doubling as chemcam
<whitequark>
i mean, you're just vaporizing a lil more material than needed
<whitequark>
what's a few cubic kilometers between friends
<SnoopJeDi>
whitequark, have you seen this PGP vuln?
<SnoopJeDi>
timing seemed funny to me since we briefly discussed HTML email recently
<whitequark>
it's a really dumb vuln in so many ways
<xShadowx>
civ6 confuses me......how can one have currency as a pre req to mathematics....currency would require math.....
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<SnoopJeDi>
xShadowx, 1) no it doesn't 2) basic arithmetic is not all of math
<xShadowx>
SnoopJeDi: 1) how to have currency without math? 2) all no, but it is math
<SnoopJeDi>
seems like you're deliberately misinterpreting what it means to focus a culture on researching math
<xShadowx>
there are different levels of math, but there is only 1 math tech, suggesting it covers all of math
<xShadowx>
but that doesnt answer how to have currency without math? :)
<SnoopJeDi>
which is predicated on "what is math"
<xShadowx>
civ5 on the other hand, math was pre req before currency
<xShadowx>
why flip o.O
<SnoopJeDi>
because people play games
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<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn whitequark
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn whitequark
* Qboid
gives whitequark a keen ornament
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor a nasal monoid
<UmbralRaptor>
bleah, can't sleep.
<UmbralRaptor>
!wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid
gives egg|zzz|egg a depressurized sNaN which vaguely resembles a photothyristor
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<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor a combining demotic gazebo
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor an organometallic atlatl which strongly resembles an upboat
<APlayer>
organometatlatl :P
<bofh>
ugh, splitting headache
* bofh
runs a Canny edge detector on the elephant
<APlayer>
You can't do that, it's a hardware problem :P
* egg|zzz|egg
gives bofh some депакотя
<APlayer>
There is this brown kitten in the neighbourhood. I've seen a few months ago for the first time, and only two or three times since then
<APlayer>
s/seen/seen it/
<Qboid>
APlayer meant to say: There is this brown kitten in the neighbourhood. I've seen it a few months ago for the first time, and only two or three times since then
<APlayer>
Also, it's easily scared. Never approached me closer than 2m or so, and always flees if anyone is standing upright nearby
<UmbralRaptor>
2 m sounds way more sociable than lots of cats here.
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<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn whitequark
* Qboid
gives whitequark a floating point fuse
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn коте
* Qboid
gives коте a FORTRAN chromatograph which vaguely resembles a missile
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn the котяchrome kitten
* Qboid
gives the котяchrome kitten a faithful varistor
<kmath>
<plutokiller> @cosmos4u @dsfpspacefl1ght @GoldHoarder @LowellObs I did the same. It was Makemake. They eventually checked the pla… https://t.co/qfyFzIOjx6
<SnoopJeDi>
bofh, oh wow the Penrose tiling (I think?) figure in that article is *gorgeous*
<SnoopJeDi>
This Socolar-Taylor tile is really incredible, too
<bofh>
SnoopJeDi: I mean SAME wrt it being essentially divination, the fact that I can't visualize things at all only makes it even moreso for me.
<SnoopJeDi>
I'm so perfectly ignorant of all things condensed matter that it continually blows my mind whenever I talk to someone / read an article by someone who can communicate it well
<SnoopJeDi>
And there's a lot of that going around on account of LCLS
<kmath>
<Saurischian16> A pair of Dilophosaurus want to wish you a happy #DinosaurDay share the love! ⏎ #dinosaurs #jurassic #dilophosaurus… https://t.co/5ajAcDE7PU
<kmath>
<✔MindyMcGinnis> I have a mouse in my kitchen cupboard. Last night he ate the cheese, then shit on the trap before walking away with… https://t.co/UAbrqCszyQ
<SnoopJeDi>
rodentia \o/
<SnoopJeDi>
not all that fond of mice, though
<bofh>
I mean same.
<SnoopJeDi>
I ended up watching a lab procedure video on rat tickling the other day >_>
<kmath>
<✔LaurenScala4NY> Whoa! That is water being blown out of a pool right now on top of a high rise in Midtown! #nbc4ny https://t.co/BDMXDwP999
<Iskierka>
Fiora's tweet about being "really smart" as a kid from last night is way too relatable
<bofh>
I feel like that'll be painfully relatable for most of this channel, honestly. :/
<Iskierka>
I mean, different trigger, but I have asked my GP about ADHD diagnosis and been given a preliminary survey thing for deciding if they should do more
<Iskierka>
and basically every question is "yep"
<bofh>
tbqh I'm anti-surprised :/
<Iskierka>
irony: I've not finished filling it out so I can give it back
<Iskierka>
(only been a week but still)
<bofh>
classic :P
<bofh>
I'm reminded of my diagnosis, which uh. So I managed to get some d-amphetamine the semester prior and was amazed at how it turned me into, approximately functional for the first time in *ever*.
<bofh>
So I decided I'd fake an ADHD diagnosis so I could get medication that let me focus.
<bofh>
Yes. That was my thought process.
<Iskierka>
"fake"
<Iskierka>
sounds more "expediate"
<bofh>
About halfway into the first page of the surveys, I just realized I could, like... fill it out honestly.
<bofh>
I am smrt sometimes.
<Iskierka>
fun fact I noted in research: the focus-improving effect does not work in overdoses (or particularly at all in people not ADHD)
<Iskierka>
so ... yeah
<bofh>
Yeah, inverted-U response curve.
<bofh>
Mind you, overdoses generally throw one into hyperfocus reliably (I speak from, erm, experience).
<Iskierka>
unfortunately I can't acquire some myself to test. But elsewhere discussions pointed out the treatment is SDRI, I recall vaguely estrogen having positive effects on dopamine. Do research, somewhat confirm that (it's complicated but it's at least partially SDRI). Look back, preeeetty sure dose increases of E have improved my focus, running out definitely does not help ... then I find out estrogen is often prescribed in cis
<Iskierka>
women in addition to adderall/whatever else to improve the effect
<Iskierka>
like "welp, self-diagnosed without having to get any amphetamines"
<bofh>
I mean I can extremely confirm that increases of E2 help my focus, and running out makes my scatterbrainedness like a *zillion* times worse.
<Iskierka>
oh yeah you take it too
<Iskierka>
well now I'm in the fun state of running out, exams coming up (first on thurs), and not sure when my next order comes
<bofh>
Oh, were you hit by the QHI/Daily Fail fiasco?
<Iskierka>
but since I can't get ADHD treatment in time I'm gonna spend some time dosed up to get through these
<Iskierka>
by, like, literally a day. Delayed it because "I'll be fine doing it tomorrow" -> "... Where's the site gone?"
<Iskierka>
life saved by finding *one* old blister pack I'd forgotten about so I can run along on just 2 mg/day
<bofh>
Yeah, the difference between nothing and that is kind of remarkable (I mean that was my typical dose for awhile, then I increased it to 3mg/day which it's been at for the past 4 months).
<Iskierka>
I was having hot flashes and headaches from withdrawal until I found it, since I still have months of AA spare so no T
<bofh>
Especially in terms of anxiety/emotional lability but also in terms of ADHD symptoms (I basically need to nearly double my stimulant doses to be functional if I suddenly run out, which... yaey).
<bofh>
Oh yeah the headaches suck ass too.
<bofh>
Also I suspect a lot of those withdrawal effects are withdrawal from the E2 you'd get from T aromatization rather than direct effects of it.
<Iskierka>
I mean, without AA, I'd have T back so I wouldn't have menopause symptoms, in theory
<Iskierka>
but then I'd have T
<bofh>
Yeah, considered extremely inoptimal and bad.
<Iskierka>
anyway QHI took payment sat/sun and I've got 1-2 pills left so hopefully shipping is fast
<kmath>
<bofh453> @psi_organa @gravislizard going to be honest I almost started crying at this one, "I create & create & create & nev… https://t.co/eunF95v0Yy
<bofh>
Iskierka: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<bofh>
that tumblr is honestly one giant personal callout tbqh.
<Iskierka>
... damnit it is
<bofh>
also at this point I'm starting to wonder what Bayes returns on "someone having clinical ADHD" given that they are friends with me.
<bofh>
I feel like it's >80% at this point lmfao
<Iskierka>
small world theorem addendum: all ADHD people are reachable within a small number of jumps from every other ADHD person
<bofh>
accurate, it feels like.
<Iskierka>
frankly Fiora probably connects
<Iskierka>
most ADHD people on her own with her large twitter collection
* UmbralRaptor
has a diagnosis from ages past, so apparently.
<iximeow>
i have no clue about myself but many of my friends are diagnosed ADHD or suspect it and subsequently have gotten distracted from finding out