egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<kmath>
<Casillic> Strontium-90 needle that is so hot it is emitting Cherenkov Radiation. Now have it inserted into you spin to reliev… https://t.co/G7RhxE5Bmc
<SnoopJeDi>
holy fuck
<UmbralRaptor>
Pretty much my reaction.
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<iximeow>
"relieve pain"
<iximeow>
"destroying pain fibers"
<iximeow>
well....
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<Qboid>
[#28979] title: Tracking issue for non-ASCII identifiers (feature "non_ascii_idents") | Non-ASCII identifiers are currently feature gated. Handling of them should be fixed and the feature gate removed.... | https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/28979
<Qboid>
[#28979] title: Tracking issue for non-ASCII identifiers (feature "non_ascii_idents") | Non-ASCII identifiers are currently feature gated. Handling of them should be fixed and the feature gate removed.... | https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/28979
<kmath>
<steinly0> so... while I am twittering, the #Pluto thing ⏎ ⏎ can astro pls just go to our normal default: ⏎ we declare there are Pl… https://t.co/5ke2dMxMKe
<egg|z|egg>
LLR?
<Qboid>
egg|z|egg: [LLR] => Lunar Laser Ranging
<egg|z|egg>
ITRF?
<Qboid>
egg|z|egg: [ITRF] => International Terrestrial Reference Frame
<egg|z|egg>
MLRS?
<egg|z|egg>
!acr -add:MLRS McDonald Laser Ranging Station
<Qboid>
egg|z|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<kmath>
<notrevenant> remember when someone sent a package to russia with the address hand-written in mojibake and the russian post had t… https://t.co/Q3kxQIrAmQ
<egg|z|egg>
which encoding is that tho
<egg|z|egg>
!wpn whitequark
* Qboid
gives whitequark a soft-boiled chaotic hexahexaflexagon
<APlayer>
Yesterday's English lesson at school. Temporary new teacher walks in and starts the lesson "Today we will talk about India. What do you associate with India? You there, at the window?" - "Chaos." - The teacher proceeds writing it down on the blackboard. The student: "No, no, no! Cows, like moo!"
<kmath>
<dAArkEnergy> Today @theDESurvey announced the discovery of a trans-Neptunian object with one of the most remarkable orbits ever… https://t.co/xovyf3Kjlc
<kmath>
<dAArkEnergy> Curves are lines of constant values of the reduced Kozai Hamiltonian, cos(i)*sqrt(1-e^2), a conserved quantity for fixed semi-major axis.
<egg|z|egg>
!pet the reduced 古在 Hamiltonian
* Qboid
pets the reduced 古在 Hamiltonian
<UmbralRaptor>
AAAA
<egg|z|egg>
!wpn bofh
* Qboid
gives bofh an overclocked prime
<egg|z|egg>
UmbralRaptor: bofh: so this is another Keplerian element I should have, the reduced 古在 Hamiltonian,
<egg|z|egg>
MOAR COMBINATORIAL EGGSPLOSION OF CODE PATHS
<egg|z|egg>
git checkout -b utf-16-marshmallows
<UmbralRaptor>
Are marshmallows fun and safe?
<whitequark>
!wpn egg
* Qboid
gives egg an organometallic conflict/javelin hybrid
<kmath>
<trannosaurusma> Come on Georgie, we have a whole vector of floats down here https://t.co/nyg3uUqFEm
<egg|z|egg>
floating-point cats!
<APlayer>
You the exponent will be any number until you look at it. ;-)
<APlayer>
The* Just the. I hate it when a word of an earlier attempt at wording the message remains because I fail to delete it.
<egg|z|egg>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor a titanium magic Lure Ball
<egg|z|egg>
!wpn whitequark
* Qboid
gives whitequark a soft ☣
* UmbralRaptor
is trapped in a pokéball?
<whitequark>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor a sufficiently smart hydra which vaguely resembles a ███████
<whitequark>
uh oh
<egg|z|egg>
whitequark: today in KSP: we made loading/saving a save faster by adding compression in the saving/loading process, and we're trying to make it even faster by encoding the compressed data in base 32768
<egg|z|egg>
(KSP's save file parsing is sloooooow)
<UmbralRaptor>
github: 🐙+ZWJ+🐈
<iximeow>
base 32768...
<whitequark>
what
<whitequark>
why
<egg|z|egg>
whitequark: compression made things faster because whatever happens on the KSP side gets slower as the save gets bigger; I'm suspecting that's whatever parser they wrote for the KSP config syntax, which operates on C#'s UTF-16 strings, so I want to minimize the UTF-16 length, hence base 32768 :D
<whitequark>
I was sort of expecting it but it's sad
<egg|z|egg>
whitequark: the wonders of KSP development (note: we might be surprised and base 32768 might not end up faster, but it would make sense that KSP's parsing would be the slow thing rather than say reading the file, since it's something like > 1 s. for 10 MiB
<egg|z|egg>
)
<bofh>
rqou: pfft, I've worked with dialkylzincs before. the comment of "they make t-BuLi look like dishwater" is extremely accurate.
<rqou>
well, I'm not actually a chemist :P
<rqou>
so t-BuLi already sounds NOPE enough for me
<rqou>
actually bofh what is your background actually?
<rqou>
you seem to do chem, astronomy, and numerics?
<whitequark>
and solid-state physics
<whitequark>
and pharmacology
<UmbralRaptor>
bofh is actually a maiar, or something.
<rqou>
how do you end up with such an unusual combination?
<whitequark>
be ADHD, do science
<rqou>
lol
<whitequark>
100% serious
<rqou>
and people already look at me funny when i tell them that I've been in a semiconductor cleanroom
<rqou>
since everyone seems to think I'm "just another CS guy"
<whitequark>
rqou: be like me, have four turbopumps
<rqou>
working on it :P
<rqou>
need to acquire some $$$
<whitequark>
or ask me nicely? :P
<whitequark>
i don't need four
<whitequark>
i don't even remember why i have four
<iximeow>
why not have four?
<whitequark>
what the fuck would i use four turbopumps for
<whitequark>
one to put on a shelf, one to use, and one to spread the gospel, sure
<whitequark>
what's fourth for
<iximeow>
>tert-Butyllithium is a pyrophoric substance, meaning that it easily catches fire on exposure to air.
<rqou>
let's see: SEM, sputter coater, fusor, spare
<iximeow>
fun!
<rqou>
there. four :P
<whitequark>
lol
<rqou>
get on it whitequark :P
<rqou>
iximeow: periodicvideos has a video where they spray some into a fume hood
<kmath>
<bofh453> <@rqou_> actually bofh what is your background? ⏎ <@rqou_> you seem to do chem, astronomy, & numerics? ⏎ <@whitequark>… https://t.co/W82Z4eqL6F
<egg|z|egg>
whitequark: also Base32768 in UTF-16 is more efficient than even Base85 in UTF-8, so that's nice :-p
<kmath>
<notrevenant> remember when someone sent a package to russia with the address hand-written in mojibake and the russian post had t… https://t.co/Q3kxQIrAmQ
<rqou>
also, I'm amazed the Russian postal service could figure out wtf was going on
<whitequark>
well
<whitequark>
mojibake was really common in early 00s
<whitequark>
most people who have dealt with email had an utility installed that would decode incomprehensible incoming messages
<egg|z|egg>
whitequark: nice
<whitequark>
if the postal service workers were minimally technically competent they would know what's going on
* egg|z|egg
stares at KSPField isPersistant
<egg|z|egg>
(sic, one of the many KSP typos)
<rqou>
wait, is this why you're so insistent on correct unicode support? being both Russian _and_ a weeb must have been "fun" for encoding problems
<rqou>
whereas azonenberg is mostly "eh, I'll try"
<egg|z|egg>
rqou: so like speaking non-english is enough to be pissed off at things tbh
<whitequark>
rqou: what egg says
<egg|z|egg>
yes, mojibaked french is decipherable, but it's *really* unpleasant
<whitequark>
the encoding situation in russia was *extremely* bad
<egg|z|egg>
(bofh linked something in a mojibaked french forum on twitter yesterday)
<whitequark>
it was extremely bad right through my high school
<whitequark>
by that time UTF-8 penetration reached something like 50% but there would still be like five years until I stopped regularly encountering encoding issues
egg|z|egg is now known as egg\z\egg
<egg\z\egg>
scandinavian encodings are fun too
<rqou>
so russia+japan+<whatever intermediate countries> must have been complete hell?
<iximeow>
egg-z-egg
<egg\z\egg>
iximeow: nah, specifically |\
<whitequark>
rqou: i do not actually read japanese
<egg\z\egg>
iximeow: they're not |\ in the scandinavian ISO 646 codepages
<whitequark>
the encoding issues that affect me directly is cyrillic, the rest i am pissed off about out of principle
<egg\z\egg>
iximeow: which is why \ is equivalent to | in IRC
<rqou>
so how unhappy do you get upon receiving KOI8-U? :P
<egg\z\egg>
iximeow: you can't /nick egg|z|egg right now
<whitequark>
also C:¥Windows¥System32¥ lol
<iximeow>
huh. TIL
<whitequark>
rqou: don't think i ever dealt with that
<egg\z\egg>
whitequark: yeah the scandinavian countries got ASCII-based before getting Windowsed so afaik there was no C:Ö stuff
<egg\z\egg>
(according to my colleague effbot at least)
egg\z\egg is now known as egg
<egg>
rqou: and similarly I'm particularly affected when french gets screwed up and then out of principle (and because I like using random scripts) for the rest
* egg
doesn't speak enough viet to have been directly affected by any of that though
<rqou>
i do remember crapware from back in the day that hooked into windows and made everything behave as if your codepage was now GB (this was way way before AppLocale)
<rqou>
somebody somewhere claimed that this worked by hooking GDI
<egg>
!seen Sarbian
<rqou>
um... i guess that's _a_ solution
<Qboid>
egg: I last saw Sarbian on [05.05.2018 15:53:26] in #kspmodding saying: "The bounding box can be a lot larger than the ship itself with some configuration"
<egg>
rqou: ?
<rqou>
so as i understand it all the software on your computer still though it was using windows-1251 but drawing commands would be hacked to reinterpret those bytes as GB
<rqou>
er, correction
<rqou>
all the _English_ software
<rqou>
all the Chinese software (that this hack was built for supporting) always interpreted bytes as GB
<kmath>
<✔MikeDrucker> YOU: Oh ho! A grammatical mistake! Didn’t you major in... ENGLISH? ⏎ ⏎ ME, AN ENGLISH MAJOR: That’s actually very inte… https://t.co/IrXWCyyVsy
<egg>
(on a partially related note i think the plural of hippopotamus should be hippopotamoi mostly because that sounds cute)
<egg>
(etymologically it comes to english from latin where the plural was hippopotami, but that's boring, and the original greek would transliterate to hippopotamos in the singular which doesn't sound particularly nice, but hippopotamoi is cute)
<egg>
whitequark: btw another part of the problem with the KSP saves is that KSP saves immediately after it loads, so everything is twice as long as it should be (in addition to the parsing being horribly slow)
<egg>
KSP!
<rqou>
unfortunately you don't have a crazy classloader hack unlike Minecraft
<egg>
!pet whitequark
* Qboid
pets whitequark
<UmbralRaptor>
So, uh, if you ran into a question asking to find the heat capacity of a degenerate ultrarelativistic fermion gas…
<UmbralRaptor>
O_o
<egg>
U+1180
<egg>
!u U+1180
<Qboid>
U+1180 HANGUL JUNGSEONG O-E (ᆀ)
<bofh>
UmbralRaptor: that's a *reasonably* standard statmech question...
<egg>
!u ڄ
<Qboid>
U+0684 ARABIC LETTER DYEH (ڄ)
<bofh>
okay now that I have a flight in a few mins, time to finally do the doubledoubledouble error analysis :P
<bofh>
christ the past 3 weeks have been hectic and crazy high-entropy
* egg
cools bofh
<egg>
(wait, bofh is a supraconducting ceramic cube, so should be cold already?)
<bofh>
I mean I am extremely cold-tolerant IRL somehow (like, jeans and a t-shirt in -10degC if there's no windchill is fine for me).
<egg>
s/badger/double/g
<egg>
hm
<egg>
s/mushroom/rounding/g
<egg>
bofh: it also depends what one is doing, at +6 deg C sitting motionless behind an eyepiece three pairs of trousers are no luxury
<egg>
(also a good setup for a topology joke)
<bofh>
egg: I was about to say, that sounds like something in need of a pants decomposition. :P
<bofh>
and yeah, I was walking. standing around is much worse.
<bofh>
I was in -6degC windchill (+2degC temp) sitting for a few hrs and that sucked. a lot.