egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
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* UmbralRaptor 🔪 UmbralRaptor in the lack of focus
<whitequark> egg|zz|egg: hmmm I only have one logger daemon and it's on freenode
<whitequark> i could run another instance i guess
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* UmbralRaptor displays all 5 Seidel aberrations simultaneously.
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<UmbralRaptor> Oh, hey, the sun's V-band magnitude is different in the AB and Vega systems. http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-4365/aabfdf/meta#new_tab
<UmbralRaptor> (aaaaaaaaaa)
<egg> UmbralRaptor: αа
<UmbralRaptor> ᾱάᾰᾶą
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: what the hell.
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: the unicode abuse, or that magnitude systems are bad?
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: the latter
<bofh> unicode abuse̊̊ is, like, standard for this channel, :p
<UmbralRaptor> good news is that they seem to suggest that there's uncertainty at the 0.02 magnitude level, so…
<egg|zz|egg> !u e̊̊
<Qboid> U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E (e)
<Qboid> U+030A COMBINING RING ABOVE (◌̊)
<Qboid> U+030A COMBINING RING ABOVE (◌̊)
* UmbralRaptor needs to use the combining snake more.
<egg> snek
<egg> combining smol snek
<UmbralRaptor> !u u+1dc2
<Qboid> U+1DC2 COMBINING SNAKE BELOW (◌᷂)
<UmbralRaptor> !u u+1f40d
<Qboid> U+1F40D SNAKE (🐍)
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* UmbralRaptor hochos the distance modulus, and the backwards magnitude scale making sign errors easy.
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* UmbralRaptor stares at tropical storm Florence.
<bofh> calling it now, the NHC 23:00 data will have it at hurricane-strength again.
<UmbralRaptor> The past few years have been so cursed, it could hit as anything from a tropical depression to a cat 5.
<bofh> love how it turns into a major hurricane (cat4), then almost gets sheared into oblivion, then literally reforms deep convection over 2 hours.
<bofh> also speaking of which, hi Isaac & Helene also can we please turn down the tropics damnit I was enjoying the largely hurricane-free summer so far.
<bofh> Hrm, Irma was Aug. 30th/31st but only really got close to land & intense ~Sept 4th. It's Sept. 8th today.
<bofh> I guess we're not too late for the start of hurricane hell.
<kmath> <sparklesonia69> Thought for the day! https://t.co/xks5uuBdLE
<kmath> <✔nathanwpyle> Mimolette is a French cheese which has learned to mimic cantaloupe to escape predators https://t.co/DESG0W0xDh
<UmbralRaptor> hah
<kmath> <TheLadyRaine> Ok but this is me https://t.co/gGgGszsEmA
<UmbralRaptor> This feels relevant to several people in here https://twitter.com/ChuckBaggett/status/1038646955549831173
<kmath> <ChuckBaggett> Here's an idea for an annoying browser extension that would get some use, there being a lot of people who like bein… https://t.co/sBq9D7rnAx
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<egg|zz|egg> !u ≫
<Qboid> U+226B MUCH GREATER-THAN (≫)
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<egg> meow
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<egg> bofh: UmbralRaptor: today's release is Descartes
<egg> and the next one is διόφαντος
<egg> bofh: also el has way more articles than fr
<egg> well, more definite articles at least
<egg> actually way fewer indefinite articles (none in ancient greek)
<egg> (ISO 639 grc for ancient greek apparently Ꙩ_ꙩ)
<egg> bofh: «Ο Διόφαντος ο Αλεξανδρεύς ήταν Έλληνας μαθηματικός του τρίτου αιώνα», "the Diophantes the Alexandrian was greek mathematician of the third century"
<egg> awang_: FYI Descartes drops support for El Capitan https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/1908#issuecomment-419715019
<Qboid> [#1908] title: Not Normal Warp Speed In RSS | In RSS, using Principia and RO and 16K texture, only 2 craft in orbit, after warping for 10 minutes, only 4 month has passed, with 1 million times speed.... | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/1908
<kmath> <stephentyrone> Things I was unprepared for as a parent: a debate about whether muffins are food or hair treatment, where both part… https://t.co/mL5KNQCX7k
<egg> !meow whitequark
* Qboid meows at whitequark
<egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a deterministic license
<egg> !seen Thomas
<Qboid> egg: I haven't seen the user Thomas yet.
<whitequark> egg: ok I'll need the logs.tmsp.io db dump
<egg> whitequark: for that we'll need Thomas, I'm not Qboid's human
<whitequark> egg: hm ok
<whitequark> can i get channel list at least then
<egg> whitequark: /whois Qboid says * [Qboid] #!/bin/sh +#spacedock +#qboid +#principia #kspunofficial +#kspmodding +#kspacademia #ckan +#bottorture +#SpaceX #RVEDev #RO +#Kopernicus #KSPD&D
<bofh> #KSPD&D? I have... questions.
<egg> I played an egg
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<bofh> egg: 12.078431 is best float
<bofh> also rofl you would
<bofh> *snags files*
<egg> bofh: ?
<egg> bofh: whence 12.078431?
<kmath> <ctrlcreep> Exhausted humans must allocate points to one of ⏎ —behaviour ⏎ —listening ⏎ —processing ⏎ The behavers are social protocol… https://t.co/q9yrAKaAhT
<oeuf> wait
<oeuf> why is there an egg and an oeuf
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<APlayer> Doublegg
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<UmbralRaptor> Ꙩ_ꙩ
<APlayer> !U Ꙩ_ꙩ
<Qboid> U+A668 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER MONOCULAR O (Ꙩ)
<Qboid> U+005F LOW LINE (_)
<Qboid> U+A669 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER MONOCULAR O (ꙩ)
<bofh> egg: 0x41414141
<egg|zz|egg> bofh: but why 41414141
<bofh> because someone overflowed a stack buffer and 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA' is the standard test overflow :p
<egg|zz|egg> huh
<egg|zz|egg> bofh: clearly that should be 8.015869,
<bofh> ꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲꜲ,
<egg|zz|egg> !u Ꜳ
<Qboid> U+A732 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER AA (Ꜳ)
<egg|zz|egg> what is that letter for
<egg|zz|egg> !u U+4141
<Qboid> U+4141 CJK IDEOGRAPH EXTENSION A-4141 (䅁)
<pthag> i know AA is a variant of danish A-ring
<egg|zz|egg> "to husk rice, to get the grains by oppressing the ears of the rice plant"
<pthag> and various europeans have a bad habit of saying 'oh no this digraph is a letter, you will hurt its feelings if you say it is two'
<egg|zz|egg> pthag: no, it's a medievalist thing, see the everson proposal linked
<pthag> good LL ligature
<egg|zz|egg> pthag: this is a distinct situation from the compatibility digraphs from extended-A, which are there because of earlier ISO standards but aren't really used (Dutch IJ or ij etc.)
<pthag> oh it's an actual ligature
<pthag> these will be useful for conlanging
<egg|zz|egg> pthag: it's not even quite a ligature
<egg|zz|egg> pthag: ligatures in Unicode are also for compatibility
<egg|zz|egg> they're supposed to be at the font level
<egg|zz|egg> but Everson explicitly notes that these medievalist letters have to be proper letters, because you can't break the ligature, and they can all get diacritics
<egg|zz|egg> !u U+1efc
<Qboid> U+1EFC LATIN CAPITAL LETTER MIDDLE-WELSH V (Ỽ)
<pthag> visigothic z has a curly spike on it
<egg|zz|egg> !u U+1efb
<Qboid> U+1EFB LATIN SMALL LETTER MIDDLE-WELSH LL (ỻ)
<pthag> to look cool
<egg|zz|egg> !u U+1efa
<Qboid> U+1EFA LATIN CAPITAL LETTER MIDDLE-WELSH LL (Ỻ)
<egg|zz|egg> stabby z
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<whitequark> egg|zz|egg: done
<whitequark> now i need to do the same for freenode...
<egg> whitequark: what do you mean?
<whitequark> i updated my infra to factor out irclogger configuration
<whitequark> but freenode still uses legacy code
<egg> aha
<whitequark> i don't configure servers manually
<whitequark> i use ansible
<egg|zz|egg> whitequark: what is the wall made of O_o https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1038626325492375552
<kmath> <whitequark> i told my roommate about thunderbolt and efi https://t.co/f6tEv548Ow
<whitequark> plasterboard or something
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<UmbralRaptor> Just make sure you roomate doesn't punch a stud.
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<APlayer> UmbralRaptor: Re: "g" in GIF - hard or soft dispute: In case you never got to use this argument in favour of the hard "g" before: Do you say "jraphics interchange format"?
<UmbralRaptor> Giraffe Interchange Format!
<APlayer> I only now noticed the Mohs scale thing in #KSPOfficial and I thoroughly enjoyed it, so thanks for that. :-)
<UmbralRaptor> More seriously, almost every other word that starts with "gi-", and lots of (most?) others that start with "g-" have a hard g, so the inventor did the classic UI designer thing of making something unintuitive and calling it intuitive.
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<egg> !pet _whitelogger
* Qboid pets _whitelogger
<egg> !meow _whitelogger
* Qboid meows at _whitelogger
<UmbralRaptor> !log Qboid
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<egg> bofh: so I'll be going to ANBO on the 15th
<bofh> egg: I will almost certainly be catching the Paris-Yvetot train on the 17th.
<kmath> <Trungles> ALSO also also when you’re trying to tweet about your bánh mì I need to you stop spelling it like “b a h n.” I don’… https://t.co/SkhUZmcaxt
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<bofh> oh hey it's ⑨/⑨/2018
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<UmbralRaptor> 9920-1-8
<egg> !u ⑨
<Qboid> U+2468 CIRCLED DIGIT NINE (⑨)
<bofh> egg: it's Cirno Day!
<egg> ?
<kmath> <mefomefomefo> Happy 9/9/1+8! https://t.co/fBjLpsXdCd
<egg> UmbralRaptor: 9920?
<UmbralRaptor> Obviously all dates go year-month-day
<bofh> In the game manual for Phantasmagoria of Flower View, well, uh, this is the relevant screenshot: http://images.uncyc.org/ja/c/c7/%EF%BC%A3%EF%BD%889.jpg
<bofh> basically circle-9 refers to your opponent, which in this case is Chiruno, the ice fairy, but the text merely says 'baka'.
<bofh> This, rather unsurprisingly, became a huge meme.
<SnoopJeDi> lol
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<egg> !u ה'ת
<Qboid> U+05D4 HEBREW LETTER HE (ה)
<Qboid> U+0027 APOSTROPHE (')
<Qboid> U+05EA HEBREW LETTER TAV (ת)
<bofh> conteggst?
<egg> bofh: Descartes marks the beginning of year תשע"ט, as UmbralRaptor pointed out
<egg> bofh: also of year 1440
<UmbralRaptor> And 5779
<egg> UmbralRaptor: yes, ה'תשע"ט
* UmbralRaptor 🔪 UmbralRaptor in the parser
<egg> UmbralRaptor: 1440 هـ
<egg> !u ׳
<Qboid> U+05F3 HEBREW PUNCTUATION GERESH (׳)
<egg> UmbralRaptor: right, I suppose it's ה׳תשע״ט rather than the stupid ASCII things
<egg> !u ה׳תשע״ט
<Qboid> U+05D4 HEBREW LETTER HE (ה)
<Qboid> U+05F3 HEBREW PUNCTUATION GERESH (׳)
<Qboid> U+05EA HEBREW LETTER TAV (ת)
<Qboid> U+05E9 HEBREW LETTER SHIN (ש)
<Qboid> U+05E2 HEBREW LETTER AYIN (ע)
<Qboid> U+05F4 HEBREW PUNCTUATION GERSHAYIM (״)
<Qboid> U+05D8 HEBREW LETTER TET (ט)
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<kmath> <eggleroy> 🌑 Descartes, the new release of Principia, is out; RKNG methods for the flight plan, dropped support for El Capitan… https://t.co/dahMnJjSPX
<bofh> Why the dropped support for El Capitan out of curiosity?
<bofh> also, 'Descarhtes'?
<bofh> 'Descarhtes'*
<egg> bofh: wait what
<egg> bofh: where 'Descarhtes'
* egg is confused
* UmbralRaptor 🔪 things, and wonders if my car was towed.
<egg> Ꙩ_ꙩ
* UmbralRaptor could use some extra oculars, apparently?
<egg> yay
<bofh> egg: https://i.imgur.com/zeH8HHL.png what the hell
<bofh> ignore the horizontal line, that's an artifact from selecting a box to screenshot.
<egg> what the bloody hell is that
<bofh> GOOD question.
<bofh> the super-bizarre thing is it's stable *and* copies to clipboard as 'Descarhtes' in this terminal.
<bofh> what on earth.
<bofh> grate, time to source-dive -.-
<UmbralRaptor> o_O
<egg> ah right, whitequark is not chanserved so I set SOP on *!*@*.whitequark.org, so _whitelogger has the same powers :-p
<UmbralRaptor> Also, is it missing the new moon emoji?
<egg> UmbralRaptor: in bofh's screenshot, yeah
<bofh> oh gods I wonder if it's doing some horrible fuckery with astral plane chars
<egg> UmbralRaptor: well, new moon symbol, whether it is given emoji presentation is an entirely separate and significantly madder question
<UmbralRaptor> irssi should be fine?
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: oh irssi is fine, I'm wondering if my terminal is fucked.
<bofh> Since I just checked in other terminal app and there I'm getting both the new moon symbol (which in my font is mercifully *not* given emoji presentation tyvm) and no 'h' in Descartes.
<egg> !seen ellied
<Qboid> egg: I haven't seen the user ellied yet.
<egg> ;seen ellied
<kmath> egg: ellied (ellied!~ellie@lpc-121-161.lpc-south-classroom.depaul.edu) was last seen quitting in somewhere at 2018-09-09 00:10:58 +0000
<egg|zz|egg> bofh: as for why drop El Capitan, "so we can use shared_mutex on macOS too"
<egg|zz|egg> (and because it is now unsupported, since august)
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<egg> !wpn whitequark and _whitelogger
* Qboid gives whitequark and _whitelogger an omega lithium telescope
<whitequark> egg: hm I might need to raise the watchdog timeout
<whitequark> this network is just quiet but it htinks that it hung
<UmbralRaptor> Can we have ANBOcat meow at it?
<egg> whitequark: oh, that's why it keeps cycling
<egg> UmbralRaptor: yeah, #ro and #kspmodding are way quieter than they used to be
<egg> s/umbralraptor/whitequark/
<Qboid> egg meant to say: whitequark: yeah, #ro and #kspmodding are way quieter than they used to be
<whitequark> egg: so do you want two loggers now or
<egg> whitequark: you mean Qboid and _whitelogger? I'm happy to have both, redundancy is nice :-p
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<egg> !meow _whitelogger
* Qboid meows at _whitelogger
<egg> !wpn -add:wpn yak
<Qboid> egg: Weapon added!
<egg> !wpn -add:adj stacked
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
<egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a long-range elephant
<bofh> wtf, yak wasn't already in the db?
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj yak
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn shave
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Weapon added!
<egg> UmbralRaptor: hm, we can now have a yak yak
<UmbralRaptor> Can we have a moon moon?
<UmbralRaptor> egg: Ꚛ_ꚛ
<bofh> egg: LOL, what's that from, Asterix?
<egg> Oumpah-Pah
<egg> same author and drawer though
<bofh> Ahh right, you did mention that.
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj bike
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn shed
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Weapon added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn barn
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Weapon added!
<bofh> !wpn -add:adj scattering
<Qboid> bofh: Adjective added!
<bofh> !wpn -add:adj bound
<Qboid> bofh: Adjective added!
<bofh> https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/1038913778920841217 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<kmath> <internetofshit> been there done that https://t.co/sbNTMmQvKC
<kmath> <whitequark> "An over-excited synchronous motor has a leading power factor." #nocontext
<UmbralRaptor> That tweet sounds vaguely lewd for some reason.
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: crab-fi?
<kmath> <ProgressBar201X> 2018 is 69% complete. https://t.co/ylIhFO1GK9
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: LOL
* bofh stares at nhc.noaa.gov
* bofh pulls up RAMMB
<bofh> JESUS FUCK FLORENCE RESTABILIZED QUICKLY
<bofh> like it was mostly still a chaotic mess ~28hrs ago, and basically sheared into oblivion ~30hrs ago.
<bofh> sudden memories of that time Hurricane Jose became undead last year
<bofh> (also Hurricane Lee)
<bofh> also Helene is looking *pretty nasty*.
<UmbralRaptor> Was Jose the one that spun around in the Atlantic for 2 weeks?
<bofh> Jose was the one that spun around in the Atlantic for 3 weeks, lol.
<bofh> okay so the actual spinning was just 2 weeks of its life cycle, yeah.
<bofh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Irma#/media/File:Irma_2017_track.png also still amazed that this was a thing.
<bofh> (featuring 60 continuous hours at Cat 5 strength)