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<darklight> SF maybe don't use nightly?
<SilverFox> yeah im using chrome temporarily
<SilverFox> might have to boot up firefox since it's interchangeable with nightly
<SilverFox> except idk if firefox is 64bit now or not
<SilverFox> I use nightly because it's 64bit
<SilverFox> firefox still crashes
<darklight> Use another version
<SilverFox> I need the version from my desktop, i dont think that one crashes
<darklight> Just use release?
<SilverFox> that's what I'm using
<darklight> wat
<darklight> Time to use chrome I guess
<darklight> Unless you have dodgy ram, do a ram check
<SilverFox> can I do a ramcheck while it's on?
<SilverFox> my laptop has 79 day uptime
<SilverFox> 78
<darklight> Not that I know of, normally you'd stick memtest86+ or something similar on a usb stick and boot it
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<SilverFox> yeah the wifi icon and the speakers icon just fucking left
<SilverFox> they're gone
<SilverFox> I'd have to reboot
<SilverFox> apparently my desktop is using 39.0a1, so I'm going to download that and install it
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<SilverFox> 37.0.1 of firefox wants me to use flash player for twitch and that's just wrong
<darklight> How is twitch not html5?
<darklight> I can't even install flash even if I wanted to
<SilverFox> it is
<SilverFox> its just firefox didnt support it way back when
<SilverFox> however firefox 50.01 supports it it seems
<SilverFox> so all is well so far
<SilverFox> going to see how long this lasts
<SilverFox> firefox 50.0 is also using less memory
<SilverFox> but it is 32bit
<SilverFox> so that's kinda gross
<SilverFox> 54 apparently supports 64bit
<darklight> Firefox even offers 32bit builds?
<darklight> Why?
<SilverFox> because firefox has been 32bit for years?
<darklight> 64bit was adopted by windows fucking a decade and a half ago
<SilverFox> 2002?
<SilverFox> vista was 64bit?
<darklight> When did winxp 64 come out? :P
<SilverFox> xp64 exists?
<darklight> Yeap
<darklight> Imagine vistas 64bit problems, now imagine xps
<Greys> that's wildly inaccurate
<Greys> imagine vista problems, then imagine an OS that isn't actually vista
<SilverFox> so far no crashes with this version of firefox
<SilverFox> 50.0 is seemingly stable
<SilverFox> but 32bit
<SilverFox> so as it leaks ima have to reset it
<SilverFox> so I'll be testing 54.0 which is apparently 64bit
<Greys> I backdated from 54 to 50 for feature functionality reasons, and now you're telling me that 54 is unstable?
<SilverFox> no
<SilverFox> 57 is
<SilverFox> it interacts weirdly with discord
<SilverFox> latest version of ff and nightly do this
<SilverFox> discord crashes, hexchat crashes
<SilverFox> it crashses
<SilverFox> scroll up and read how often I was crashing
<darklight> So should I be pinning 52.0.2?
<SilverFox> pin whatever you got
<SilverFox> future isnt pretty
<SilverFox> it's the trump of firefox updates
<darklight> I'm on loonix though
<darklight> And they fix stuff
<SilverFox> its tryna fuck with everything that was previously established
<darklight> Is it trying to be chrome again?
<SilverFox> also version 50.0 has the reload button in the proper spot
<SilverFox> not that chrome spot bullshit
<darklight> It was already bad enough that my new tab page was full of ponies and porn and pony porn
<darklight> (I kid, and I turned that off ages ago)
<SilverFox> that reminds me to turn off auto updates
<darklight> Firefox went downhill ever since the CEO was outed as homophobic
<darklight> All because he donated 1k to oppose same sex marriage
<SilverFox> firefox went downhill as soon as it started this crashing bullshit
<SilverFox> also, Im rather sure having 200 processes because I have 200 tabs would not be optimal
<SilverFox> because the processor has to tick over all those processes
<SilverFox> and that takes up processing time
<SilverFox> oh shit, XP and vista are no longer supported by firefox
<SilverFox> as of april of this year
<darklight> "Robert Pattinson Refused to Give a Dog a Hand Job for His New Movie"
<SilverFox> oh yeah darklight, a long press on a search suggestion removes it from search history on firefox android 53.0
<SilverFox> inb4 onion article
<SilverFox> so Im downloading what is said to be a 64bit version of 51.0, lets see if that works
<SilverFox> im gonna say that 51 and 52 are safe, as the crashing just started recently
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<SilverFox> started 51.0, installed under program files so it should be 64bit
<SilverFox> yup, it is
<SilverFox> doesnt get me to use flash on twitch
<SilverFox> ima start stresstesting this shit and loading a bunch of tabs
<SilverFox> achieving maximum tabbage
<darklight> Open tvtropes
<SilverFox> maximum tabs
<SilverFox> no crashes
<SilverFox> Greys, do you have lots of horizontal space on your desk?
<darklight> TIL screwdrivers are also knives
<SilverFox> new 3d printer on the market
<SilverFox> anycubic kossel
<SilverFox> its like, 170ish USD
<SilverFox> ;wa 180mm*180mm*320mm to L
<kmath> SilverFox: convert 180 mm (millimeters)×180 mm (millimeters)×320 mm (millimeters) to liters: 10.37 L (liters)
<SilverFox> that's a lot of litres
<G-Mobile> I am as tall as obama
<G-Mobile> Is there a a reddit of computers saying words wrong?
<darklight> *herb
<darklight> Plenty of people say things wrong :3
<G-Mobile> Yea, but computers pronounce NBA
<G-Mobile> NnnBah
<G-Mobile> For those of you who arent near the internet, the NBA is basketball
<kmath> YouTube - Crazy Old Man Interrupts News Report
<kmath> YouTube - Akimbo Reloads Perfected - Interstellar Docking Remix
<G-Mobile> That is a great old man
<G-Mobile> He remixes himself
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<kmath> YouTube - YOU'RE UNDER A CITIZEN'S ARREST AND YOU'RE UNDER A CITIZEN'S ARREST!
<SilverFox> G-Mobile,
<kmath> YouTube - Zip Code
<SilverFox> do you have your zip code?
<kmath> YouTube - 治虫手塚さんはマンガの神様です
<SilverFox> dis u
<G-Mobile> No, it ran away
<G-Mobile> You should stop linking playlists
<G-Mobile> It's so easy
<SilverFox> its not as easy
<G-Mobile> It's 1.77/43 easy
<SilverFox> thats a lot of not easy
<SilverFox> I have a fullbody headache
<G-Mobile> Yanno what's easy, not clickin links
<G-Mobile> Dakka 2 alieve, a strong coffee, and take a nap
<SilverFox> "drink coffee" "take nap"
<SilverFox> pls
<SilverFox> darklight, https://youtu.be/8UpcXEureb0
<kmath> YouTube - Are traps gay?
<SilverFox> spanish as a language is too fast
<SilverFox> how many midgets were hired for munchins in wizard of oz?
<SilverFox> ~w gay bomb
<SilverFox> this is a FUCKING THING
<SilverFox> MAKES THE ISIS GAY
<G-Mobile> SilverFox: it takes an average of 26 minutes for caffiene from coffee to enter the blood stream
<SilverFox> I cannot physically fall asleep when I have headaches
<G-Mobile> So drink a cup of coffee real fast, climb in bed, and you'll wake up in about half an hour
<SilverFox> or I wont because I wont fucking fall asleep
<SilverFox> goddamn
<G-Mobile> You will if you follow the whole directions
<kmath> YouTube - Deadmau5 Accidentally Recreates Sandstorm
<SilverFox> its a fucking 1950's computer room of audio equipment
<kmath> YouTube - I got invited to the world premiere of The Emoji Movie
<SilverFox> darklight, https://youtu.be/SaK-woSd58s
<kmath> YouTube - The Not So Itsy Bitsy Spider
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<SilverFox> wtf
<SilverFox> he was gone
<kmath> YouTube - Alex Jones Presents: ChemTrails
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<SilverFox> G-Mobile, https://youtu.be/0FkYKge75ps
<kmath> YouTube - Berd circulation
<SilverFox> how's this for a loop?
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<SilverFox> so, new development on the whole ff ordeal
<SilverFox> firefox release doesnt support multiprocess
<SilverFox> this is essential for when memleaks grow too large and instead of hardreseting firefox, I can soft reset by killing processes and then reloading tabs
<SilverFox> G-Mobile, get the cost of this video: https://youtu.be/Tk1JxKihcyE?list=PLS1AzmOARWugJYDXbIzW8Uy_k13gPJ3VA
<kmath> YouTube - Domino
<kmath> YouTube - Domino
<G-Mobile> Twenn bucks
<G-Mobile> 17$ to dev the multiscreen fauxpixel thing
<G-Mobile> 3$ for a bunch of post-consumer phones
<G-Mobile> Less if they're chiphones
<SilverFox> but that's a fuckton of phones
<G-Mobile> So?
<G-Mobile> Guess how much my last phone was worth when I bought this one
<SilverFox> okay, got version 55 or so of nightly on here
<SilverFox> 55.0a1
<SilverFox> enabled multi-process
<SilverFox> loading tabs to the max
<G-Mobile> Have they fixed the thing where theres undismissable blocking suggestion services added to every text field that looks like i might be a search box, making it impossible to use them?
<SilverFox> uhm, kinda not really but there's a way?
<G-Mobile> I'll wait
<SilverFox> you can either delete the cache/cookies that are that shit, or you can long-press on a search suggestion to remove it from search history, which thusly doesnt bring it up
<G-Mobile> No no, not the suggestions
<G-Mobile> The service
<SilverFox> ???????
<G-Mobile> The big yellow box saying "yo dog, I heard this might be a seach field, look at my suggestions BUT NO YOU CANT TOUCH THE FIELD"
<SilverFox> never experienced this as you describe it
<SilverFox> idek wtf you're talking about
<G-Mobile> I'll wait
<SilverFox> for me to experience some vague textfield shenanigans?
<G-Mobile> For me to need to update
<SilverFox> I have achieved maximum tabbitude
<SilverFox> no crashing
<SilverFox> ~yt Mr Burns excellent
<kmath> YouTube - Mr Burns - Excellent
<SilverFox> even when achieving maximum tabbitude this song I have looped played without pausing
<G-Mobile> Play that song in every tab
<SilverFox> how many tabs?
<G-Mobile> [all]
<SilverFox> I cant do that starfox
<G-Mobile> How many? That many
<SilverFox> that is 200 tabs
<G-Mobile> ~yt do it
<kmath> YouTube - Shia LaBeouf "Just Do It" Motivational Speech (Original Video)
<G-Mobile> ~yt emperor do it
<kmath> YouTube - Palpatine tells Anakin to do it for about fifteen minutes
<SilverFox> thing is, I can't replace them with the song
<SilverFox> that's illegal
<G-Mobile> Sith dont respect the law!
<SilverFox> fuck there's a meme about all the school shootings and then emporer comes in like "Jedi temple" and they continue
<SilverFox> I need to find that meme
<kmath> YouTube - Jedi Temple Meme
<SilverFox> I am overlord of memes
<G-Mobile> You're the vice leutenant in charge of overseeing logistics record keeping
<kmath> YouTube - Griffin & The Banana: A Eulogy
<kmath> YouTube - Fly got a good grip doesn't he
<G-Mobile> How do you feel about using gunpowder to prevent boners
<SilverFox> uhhhhhhhhhh
<SilverFox> I feel like there are more effective methods
<SilverFox> then resorting to explosives
<kmath> YouTube - I love science
<G-Mobile> This is like using nitroglycerine to prevent heart attacks
<SilverFox> nonono
<G-Mobile> Yee
<SilverFox> gunpowder is not a medicine
<G-Mobile> True, but it contains a medicine
<G-Mobile> *™
<SilverFox> no
<SilverFox> it contains explosives
<G-Mobile> Its like, all the nitrides in the salt petter or something, make you not so hooooohny
<SilverFox> no
<SilverFox> you know what's great at preventing boners?
<G-Mobile> The navy used to feed sailors gunpowder so they wouldnt lust orgy after months at sea
<SilverFox> vasoconstrictors
<SilverFox> links or that's utter bullshit
<G-Mobile> $ g /wikipedi navy boners
<SilverFox> white_guy_blinking.gif
<G-Mobile> ~g navy gunpowder reduce libedo
<G-Mobile> are nitrides and nitrates different?
<SilverFox> probably
<SilverFox> nitrate is NO3
<G-Mobile> you're a medicinier, you should know this sort of basic organic chemistry
<SilverFox> not organic chem
<Supernovy> nitride is the N by itself, nitrate is N with oxygen
<Supernovy> both are anions
<SilverFox> organic chem is carbon and hydrogens
<SilverFox> mainly carbons
<G-Mobile> really just carbons
<SilverFox> the essential building block of life
<G-Mobile> like nitrogen
<SilverFox> so think again before you stereotype me
<G-Mobile> and oxygen
<G-Mobile> I'll stereotype you however I want
<SilverFox> fuck youuuuu
<G-Mobile> stereotype, have you watched flying witch yet?
<SilverFox> no
<Supernovy> see also: sulphide vs sulphate
<Supernovy> don't see also: sulphite
<G-Mobile> this is going to suck but whatever
<G-Mobile> ~yt flying witch mandrake
<kmath> YouTube - [Flying Witch] Mandrake
<kmath> YouTube - DRIFT KING ON A 767
<SilverFox> I do this in flightsim all the time
<G-Mobile> it's probably gonna be inset and tilted and played back slightly reversed at the wrong speed
<SilverFox> what is?
<SilverFox> ~yt despacito
<kmath> YouTube - Luis Fonsi - Despacito ft. Daddy Yankee
<SilverFox> 3 billion views
<SilverFox> if every view was unique, that's almost half the world's population
<G-Mobile> the flying witch thing
<G-Mobile> youtube hates anime now so people who want anime on youtube have to do malicious things to make the anime fit
<SilverFox> you know what doesn't do malicious things?
<SilverFox> my bed
<SilverFox> in which im in
<SilverFox> and tired
<SilverFox> and going to sleep now
<SilverFox> bye
<G-Mobile> like weird crops, watermarks, irregular borders, extraneous moving elements, sometimes scaling the anime over time, speeding it up, varying the speed, tinting it, and rotating, sometimes over time
<G-Mobile> all to prevent content ID matches
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<lpg> G-Mobile: you can't just mirror things anymore?
<G-Mobile> lpg: nothing I listed actually works
<lpg> ouch
<G-Mobile> content ID is smarter than people
<G-Mobile> in important news; I have discovered the worst
<G-Mobile> a couple of weeks ago, linkin park died
<G-Mobile> july 20th, lead vocalist of linkin park and others, Chester Bennington, hung himself in a drunken grief spiral over the recent drug fueled suicide by hanging of close friend Chris Cornell
<G-Mobile> the world will forever matter less than it already didn't
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<VITAS> :D
<VITAS> also a good way to get the accounts that havent been leaked by saving what people enter :)
<xShadowx> my mom used that and 5 min later screaming OMG IT SAYS MY EMAIL WAS HACKED SEE RIGHT HERE MY EMAIL IS ON THE SITE IT MEANS I WAS HACKED
* xShadowx facepalms
<VITAS> there is a newsarticle from a respectable it magazine about it
<VITAS> but they say its ok to use
<VITAS> i dont think entering my mail adress anywhere on the interwebs is a good idea if i dont like them to save it
<VITAS> so i guess if the site says youre compromised by some hack its legit
<VITAS> in other news: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/164056-tucker-congruence-coefficient-calculation/
<lpg> VITAS: the site is maintained by a well-known security guy
<G-Mobile> any'a yalls know about oldish military equipment? I'm looking for a somewhat specific vague box that might not exist
<G-Mobile> I need a rigid, preferably metal, preferably waterproof container, about the size of a half length 2~3U server, with a sling to be carried messenger bag style
<G-Mobile> I think there have been radio units similar to this
<VITAS> NSA is also a well known securety institution :D
<G-Mobile> oh, and the door needs to be on the front-of-server part of the analogy
<G-Mobile> I need a house so I have places to put tools I don't need....
<RandomJeb> I have a house I need to expand so I can put tools I don't need in new places so I have more space for tools I don't need
<G-Mobile> tis the suffering of the maker, truely universal
<G-Mobile> pretty sure I could come up with the skills to make the container I want pretty quick given a press brake and a spot welder
<G-Mobile> I wonder how hard it'd be to fake the sort of stamped sheetmetal construction that ammo cans are built with using a hydraulic press
<G-Mobile> don't you hate it when your pointless rant about obscure objects gets derailed by your bank fucking forgetting that you spent some money last week
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<G-Mobile> "99.9% of web browsers support out ssl certificates!" There are not a thousand browsers.
<VITAS> what G-Mobile cant read and is not taking to account is that there are thousends of browser versions on a multitude of operating systems
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<G-Mobile> Does a strain gauge need to be long to work well on small loads with little deformation?
<G-Mobile> I want to measure tye deflection of a bicycle pedal to monitor how much force the rider is putting in, best plan seems to be to epoxy a strain gauge onto the pedal arm
<TheKosmonaut> VITAS: I gave up trying.
<VITAS> i know
<VITAS> but thanks
<VITAS> i found a new way of copy protection: just release so many bugfixes and updates that any copied version is always outdated :D
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<G-Mobile> Thats what you get.
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<VITAS> childish behaviour?
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<Greys> weird, there's a slightly newer version of my cordless drill, and the big feature change is that it's brushless; it's otherwise basically the same; cool
<Greys> but then it's also got one third less torque
<Greys> so... how is this an upgrade?
<Greys> 265 inch pounds on my drill, 179 on the new brushless one
<Greys> before anyone complains about those numbers being imperial, that's what bosch gave me, they're german, it's on them, and the numbers being small, it's a small drill.
<Greys> ;wa 975 inch pounds to foot pounds
<kmath> Greys: convert 975 in lbf (pound‐force inches) to foot pounds‐force: 81.25 ft lbf (foot pounds‐force)
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<Greys> adafruit could make a fortune on a product line of project boxes with common powertool battery sockets, and sold separately regulators for common powertool voltages
<Greys> it's a platic box with ten LEDs and a button; you jam your battery in the top.
<Greys> Sixty Bucks
<Greys> I paid a premium for my lathe turned anodized aluminum water proof 270 lumen flash light with a fucking custom designed bullshit proprietary AAA battery carrier
<Greys> seventeen
<Greys> I'd have an 18650 in there right now but I didn't think that such bullshit could exist
<Greys> and of course they don't make a lithium conversion package for this flashlight, so I can't give them moooore money to be rechargable
<SilverFox> okay im up
<Greys> look at this fucking piece of shit https://www.ebay.com/i/361298107015?chn=ps&dispItem=1
<Greys> it has a USB out, and a DC barrel jack but I forget what that puts out, it's not a charger so there's no power in
<Greys> fifty bucks, no reason
<SilverFox> because they can
<Greys> if Adafruit sold this exact thing, for 30$, I'd buy it. I'd prefer this exact thing but also with space for an arduino or pi stack a couple tall, that'd be fucking grand
<SilverFox> what would it do?
<Greys> you stick a cordless powertool battery in it, specifically a bosch or I think milwaukee brand 12v pack, and it gives you easy access to the electricity
<Greys> easy swap commonly available high capacity cells that you probably already have
<Greys> I'd love to use my bosch packs to power bike accessories, but I don't have a socket to plug the pack into, other than my drill
<RandomJeb> so like a converter from various batteries at voltages from 2.3 to 28?
<RandomJeb> to I guess 220
<RandomJeb> or 120
<SilverFox> that would be shitterydoo
<SilverFox> thats quite the amperage loss
<RandomJeb> well if it's just for bike accessories you probably just need 5 or at most 12 volts
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<SilverFox> I'm guessing more 5 or 12v for greys stuff
<G-Mobile> What? No
<G-Mobile> From 12, 16, 18, and 20v, one per product, to arduino voltages
<SilverFox> simple buck would do it
<G-Mobile> There are only 12v batteries that fit in this socket
<SilverFox> why not make a universal socket?
<SilverFox> you'll sell more
<G-Mobile> ;tell darklight scarahoochie and prebus got firequit'd, scar hadnt even started the job yet
<kmath> G-Mobile: I'll let darklight know when I see them
<SilverFox> and have more inventory space
<G-Mobile> Because they're wildly different shapes and sizes
<SilverFox> so are the electrical sockets
<G-Mobile> Cover as much as you can sure, bosch and milwaukee are literally the same pack with different clip shapes
<G-Mobile> A lot of brands use extremely similar sliding socket packs
<SilverFox> you want as little SKUs as possible to reduce sitting shelf syndrome
<RandomJeb> I figure most battery packs for such are the same with slightly different clips
<G-Mobile> Nope
<RandomJeb> the important thing about them is that they can't be used for competitor tools because if they could SOMEONE would lose battery sales
<G-Mobile> Thats bosch/milwaukee, this is ryobi http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mv29ntRSwYLDvB9hyDX3cTg.jpg
<SilverFox> makita ye booiiii
<G-Mobile> Also bosch
<SilverFox> I feel like we could take the bosch and the ryobi, and with some smarticles we could make a universal for them
<SilverFox> and that last bosch can go in with makita
<RandomJeb> it's plugs and sliders
<SilverFox> I feel like if we make it, AvE can make a video on it
<G-Mobile> You'd need adapters
<G-Mobile> More skus
<SilverFox> no
<G-Mobile> Yep
<SilverFox> mash all the adapters into one thing
<RandomJeb> the ryobi thing looks real cheap, never heard about those before
<G-Mobile> It is
<SilverFox> make a cube
<SilverFox> each side, except 1-2 can support a type of socket
<G-Mobile> Oh so just have multiple skus ducttaped together for no benefit and all the deficits
<SilverFox> bonus points, it can support multiple batteries at once and the arduino can ID them by socket
<SilverFox> the point is to make adapters
<SilverFox> as little of them as possible
<G-Mobile> Yea but you increase the cost per unit, price per unit, alienate customers, eliminate usecases, and generally destroy salea
<SilverFox> how
<SilverFox> the cost per unit will increase if the product just sits on shelf
<G-Mobile> By replacing a useful way to use batteries you have in projects you build with a giant expensive pain in the ass
<SilverFox> what the fuck are you proposing then?
<G-Mobile> The same number of skus but not frankensteined together so they cost less for everyone and are small
<SilverFox> same number of skus as what?
<G-Mobile> As your cube of sockets
<SilverFox> so how many different attachment types is there, lets start with that
<SilverFox> there's bosch triangle cylinder, makita slim pack, ryobi shitter,
<G-Mobile> Each side of that cube wilp take all the cost of design and production of a separate product, only the sides a customer doesnt need will reduce the value they see in it
<G-Mobile> Bosch 12v, bosch 18 volt, makita and friends 18 volt, ryobi bullshit
<G-Mobile> Hell, fuck ryobi
<SilverFox> how high is the dick on ryobi
<G-Mobile> You could fit your dick in the socket without touching anything
<SilverFox> anyways, seperate sales tactic, we target AvE
<SilverFox> he has all these types
<SilverFox> and probably will
<SilverFox> as long as we make a good quality product, he'll endorse it passively by using it
<G-Mobile> The bosch has a much larger girth and is about half as long
<RandomJeb> "so how many different attachment types is there" while you're pondering this they come up with 8 new attachment types
<SilverFox> and he's into arduino things, so if we make the ard-api user friendly for him, he'll love it even more
<G-Mobile> This isnt your idea to pivot
<SilverFox> it'll be a "handy dandy notebook" situation
<SilverFox> plus I bet you there are people out there with at least 2 of these socket types
<G-Mobile> If you do want to target AvE he has a video asking for somebody to invent a thing he can plug multiple batteries into, plug inline or not with his corded drills, and get UPS and/or boosted amperage performance depending on whats available
<RandomJeb> I have at least 3 just at home and at work we have at least 8 different ones
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<G-Mobile> Then you buy three sockets, better for me
<SilverFox> the main part about cost savings is if the consumer has to buy 2, rather than just 1, it should cost less than the cube. if it doesn't, the cube is the best buy, and just saves money the more SKUs you have to buy
<RandomJeb> the solution is clearly to have both
<G-Mobile> The idea is not to have sockets to plug lots of dicks into
<SilverFox> so two paths here, consumer-friendly or business-friendly
<RandomJeb> filling up shelves with more products also makes the customer more likely to buy something
<RandomJeb> so everybody wins
<G-Mobile> The idea is to have an arduino project box you can plug exactly an only one battery into to let your project access that power
<SilverFox> alright
<G-Mobile> If your adapter is the size of five batteries just so at any time you could plug any of five batteries into it, it's not useful for the job of making exactly one battery available to the device
<SilverFox> so get those slimjim packs and support those
<G-Mobile> The device which probably isnt bigger than the battery
<SilverFox> the other two are going to be stupidly sized for a project
<G-Mobile> Depends what you make and what you want it to do
<G-Mobile> I want to make a battery powered hot wire cutter, the makita pack would be great for that
<SilverFox> this sounds amp-heavy
<G-Mobile> Build the box out to be a hip holster you jack the battery in, rig up a wire cutter laser katana, maaaaybe involve an arduino for battery protection
<G-Mobile> The makita packs have amps, and I can put in a transformer
<SilverFox> but you also have to worry about voltage drop, so you cant take it too low
<G-Mobile> You can run a hot wire cutter on a 6 volt lantern battery, don't need 18
<G-Mobile> What the makita pack offers is duration
<SilverFox> depending on the size of the cutter, if it was like, a butter knife, then you could get away with 3-5v easily
<G-Mobile> Eh, 24"
<SilverFox> oh two foot?
<SilverFox> uh
<G-Mobile> Laser katana
<SilverFox> right
<SilverFox> 6v might do it
<SilverFox> depending on the wire
<G-Mobile> Actually probably 18", because it'll be built out of a butcher's hacksaw frame
<SilverFox> right but that's two ways, at least
<SilverFox> so we have to double the distance
<G-Mobile> ?
<G-Mobile> What?
<SilverFox> one going to tip, tip to body
<SilverFox> if the blade is 18" long, it's at least 36" of wire
<G-Mobile> I dont know what kind of physics have happened to you, but I dont live in double space
<SilverFox> you need the top part of a blade, and the blade part of the blade
<G-Mobile> Onpy the hot wire consumes energy
<G-Mobile> The rest of the wires are low resistance
<SilverFox> right
<SilverFox> but the hot wire is what im concerned about
<SilverFox> we need to figure out the voltage drop per meter on it
<G-Mobile> Nah, they sell it
<SilverFox> ..they sell you the voltage drop per meter?
<G-Mobile> ~g amazon nichrome wire
<G-Mobile> 6.68 ohms per foot
<SilverFox> whats that in meters
<SilverFox> uhhhhhhhh
<SilverFox> 19 something ohms
<G-Mobile> ;wa 6.68 ohms per foot to ohms per meter
<kmath> G-Mobile: convert 6.68 Ω/foot (ohms per foot) to ohms per meter: 21.92 Ω/m (ohms per meter)
<SilverFox> so are you having 18" of wire total, or is that the length of the blade?
<G-Mobile> Total amd length of the blade
<G-Mobile> And
<SilverFox> draw this out for me
<SilverFox> hld up
<G-Mobile> Imagine a hacksaw, thats 18 inches from handle to tip
<G-Mobile> Now imagine nichrome wire going from handle to tip
<G-Mobile> Not any further
<G-Mobile> Do not pass go, do not return to handle
<G-Mobile> Normal fucking wire will connect everything up
<SilverFox> wait, how do you have a piece of wire just jetting out the body and it not returning?
<G-Mobile> HACK SAW
<RandomJeb> this seemed pretty straight forward from "hacksaw frame"
<SilverFox> the electricity has to return somewhere
<SilverFox> where's it returning?
<RandomJeb> yeah you don't need a hot wire for that
<G-Mobile> Replace the blade with the hot wire, rin the normal wire through the frame
<SilverFox> ah
<SilverFox> that makes sense
<G-Mobile> Sometimes you are dumb as a box of ian2s
<SilverFox> almost, but not quite
<SilverFox> maybe Vas level, but definitely not ian2
<SilverFox> once I start seriously believing that everything is out to get me, and to spite me, then I'll've achieved ian2
<SilverFox> what is the voltage drop of regular wire that you're using?
<G-Mobile> Not much, it'll be less than two meters
<SilverFox> which is good
<SilverFox> I'd say find the amount of voltage that'd be dropped, and be like, 1-2v above it
<SilverFox> how hot does the blade need to be to cut foam?
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<G-Mobile> I have volts to spare with 18, a regulator would just increase battery life
<G-Mobile> Much less hot than nichrome wire gets
<G-Mobile> Also it wont be running constantly, because nichrome wire gets hot fast
<G-Mobile> How do you bash volts and ohms to get amps or watts?
<SilverFox> uhhhh
<SilverFox> ;wa 1V/1ohm
<kmath> SilverFox: (1 V (volt))/(1 Ω (ohm)): 1 V/Ω (volt per ohm)
<SilverFox> oh right
<SilverFox> v*a = w
<SilverFox> i = v/r ?
<SilverFox> v * i = w
<G-Mobile> ;wa 18/21.92
<kmath> G-Mobile: 18/21.92 = 0.821167883211678832116788321167883211678832116788321167883…
<SilverFox> why use wolfram?
<G-Mobile> Fricker
<SilverFox> it would've given you a fraction
<G-Mobile> Because I forgot the units
<SilverFox> volts and ohms?
<G-Mobile> ;wa 18 volts / 21.92 ohms
<kmath> G-Mobile: (18 V (volts))/(21.92 Ω (ohms)): 0.82117 V/Ω (volts per ohm)
<G-Mobile> Is that right?
<SilverFox> yer
<SilverFox> R = V/I
<SilverFox> I = V/R
<G-Mobile> ;wa 2.6 amp hours / .82117 amps
<kmath> G-Mobile: (2.6 A h (ampere hours))/(0.82117 A (amperes)): 3.17 hours
<G-Mobile> Thats pretty good
<SilverFox> you can extend that with PWM cant you?
<G-Mobile> Sure, but thats 60% more than I need
<SilverFox> yeah but why have 60% more when you can have 120% more?
<SilverFox> or 90% more?
<G-Mobile> Thats a total of three hours metered in seconds at a time
<G-Mobile> ;wa 3.17 hours to seconds
<kmath> G-Mobile: convert 3.17 hours to seconds: 11410 seconds
<G-Mobile> ;c 11410/5
<kmath> G-Mobile: 2282.0
<G-Mobile> Thats two thousand five second cuts
<SilverFox> ~2300 ye
<SilverFox> but you have to heat up the wire
<G-Mobile> Part of the five seconds
<SilverFox> that wire can heat up that fast?
<G-Mobile> Its wire
<G-Mobile> Its an extremely small amount of mass
<G-Mobile> ;wa 18 volts * .82117 amps
<kmath> G-Mobile: 18 V (volts)×0.82117 A (amperes): 14.7811 A V (ampere volts)
<SilverFox> 15W, not bad
<SilverFox> thats half my soldering iron
<G-Mobile> ;c 14.7811 / 18
<kmath> G-Mobile: 0.8211722222222222
<G-Mobile> .82 watts per inch
<SilverFox> ima do some VR flying of planes
<SilverFox> lets see how well my shitty cpu handles a simulation AND vr
<SilverFox> place your bets on my framerate
<G-Mobile> 3pi
<SilverFox> 9?
<G-Mobile> ;wa 3pi
<kmath> G-Mobile: 3 π = 9.424777960769379715387930149838508652591508198125317462924…
<SilverFox> im getting 45
<SilverFox> sometimes 47
<SilverFox> so its in reprojection
<SilverFox> but it isnt stuttery
<SilverFox> ;wa 32USD to CAD
<kmath> SilverFox: convert $32 (US dollars) to Canadian dollars: C$40.48 (Canadian dollars)
<SilverFox> how does one reset a crashed driver?
<SilverFox> GPU temp isnt reading my graphics card temp anymore
<SilverFox> it isnt recognizing my gpu as an evga gpu
<SilverFox> how do?
<SilverFox> ima just restart my computer
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<SilverFox> Apparently there's a saying that goes "The only replacement for a DC-3 is another DC-3" in regards to how well designed the Douglas DC-3 is
<SilverFox> i find this pretty funny
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<SilverFox> apparently a 100MHz overclock on memory and core clock makes a difference for VR
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<SilverFox> Greys, VR game where you get a special lightweight glove accessory, and you jerk off, and it tracks your jerking, and you rack up points for it. And then, once you're done, you get points for duration and stamina and other shit, and your score is put up on global leaderboards so it can say like "Your session ranked 116th/200"
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<SilverFox> "The meaning of life is to find meaning in life"
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<SilverFox> motherfuck
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