<SilverFox>
what's it matter if a bunch of neonazis like trump?
<Greys>
nothing is wrong with "people like things"
<Greys>
it's the other details about the people and the things that are problematic
<SilverFox>
"problematic"
<SilverFox>
kek
<darklight>
You know that seems to have fallen out of use
<Greys>
gaywad
<Greys>
TheKosmonaut, do you hate anime because of the people it attracts or something else
<Greys>
and to be clear, there's two main reasons when it's a problem that people like trump, A, because he tells them that it's OK to be shitty to other people and they want an excuse, or B, because they think it's OK to be shitty to other people and can use him to legitimize or systemitize their bigotry
<Greys>
serious question
<Greys>
why are there so many cryptocurrencies
<SilverFox>
why are there so many programming languages
<Greys>
doesn't the wide selection make the operation of markets problematic?
<Greys>
programming languages don't need to be shared by the user
<darklight>
SilverFox: To be fair, they would have voted that way, as he'd be "the lesser evil"
<Greys>
I could create a new language, write a program in it, give that program to you, and if I have done a good job that program will be one
<darklight>
Holy scrollup
<Greys>
if I invent a cryptocurrency, create a unit of value, and give that unit to you, and you have no facility to possess or make use of it, I have wasted both of our time
<darklight>
Cryptocurrencys are all stupid
<darklight>
Aaaaand it's gone
<Greys>
now say it's less shit, for example let's say we have a market with 20 cryptocurrencies, and I have 14 betadollars, and I want to buy a bagel; I have to find a place which sells bagels and accepts betadollars, so this is problematic for the operation of economic transactions
<Greys>
it's why the US government outlawed paying employees in proprietary currency
<Greys>
all the coal miners only had coalbux that they could only spend at coalmine operated stores, and this was bad for the market
<Greys>
but we've actually got a much worse situation
<TheKosmonaut>
SilverFox: this is why weebs need to die
<TheKosmonaut>
See, if we kawaiicaust the weebs then there’d have been no Hitler
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: am I right?
<TheKosmonaut>
Greys: so you’re saying people cannot adapt to decimal points?
<TheKosmonaut>
Do you mean people or americans
<TheKosmonaut>
Because the rest of the world is quite accustomed to decimal points.
<Greys>
the capacity of people is not reflective of what they'll do
<darklight>
"Justin trudeau hypen jagger"
<TheKosmonaut>
Greys: you’re changing the goal posts. For once, stick to your initial argument
<TheKosmonaut>
Because people *do* understand decimals.
<Greys>
I have made no claims about the capacity of people
<TheKosmonaut>
You’re sidetracking
<Greys>
I have said that bitcoin is impractical for common use because it goes so far into the decimal that everything is decimal
<Greys>
if you look at global exchange rates, there's a small quantity of currencies that are worth more than USD, with the most valuable being worth 3.30USD
<darklight>
It's impractical because nobody uses it
<Greys>
you don't see any currencies in use that are worth 10x or more
<TheKosmonaut>
I still don’t see what is really hard to work with on that. Firstly, not all currency is necessarily worked in the same way the USD or dollars/pounds in general are.
<Greys>
that was my previous point but EVERYBODY REFUSED TO DISCUSS THAT
<TheKosmonaut>
I think BTC isn’t practical either, but not for this reason
<TheKosmonaut>
BTC is impractical because its just not accepted in the majority of places you go, it is not easily interchangeable with other currencies, it is subject to way more crashes and highs than most major currencies, it is also just a bunch of numbers that are kept in your “wallet” and that isn’t sexy.
<TheKosmonaut>
Money needs to be sexy
<TheKosmonaut>
If I cant snort cocaine with BTC then what is the point
<Greys>
you'd probably need bout point six to get any cocain with BTC
<Greys>
I need more oxygen
<TheKosmonaut>
Your brain has been oxygen deprived for too long
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: are you right? you always seemed more center-left to me
<Greys>
I was at walmart, it happens
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: and yes, can confirm weebs caused hitler
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: did I say I was right
<TheKosmonaut>
?
<Greys>
did you explain why you hate anime?
<Rokker>
6:52:26 AM <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: am I right?
<Greys>
silver was making claims about that
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: oh. I linked the kawaii Hitler
<Rokker>
Greys: you should probably grab one of their handicap scooters then
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: Hitler loved Asians in general
<TheKosmonaut>
Greys: I dislike anime because can encourage a group of people in Japan that are socially inept, they have no children, they aren’t productive members of society and live off of welfare checks. There are exceptions to that obviously, but look at it this way
<SilverFox>
TheKosmonaut, I said that people dislike anime because it attracts droves of autists
<Greys>
which I said was not the actual problem
<Greys>
so what if autists like it
<TheKosmonaut>
I brought one of the most hardcore anime fans I’ve ever met to Akihabaea and she was completely turned off after I told her to just sit on a bench with me and watch the people going in and out of the stores.
<Greys>
the problem is other details
<TheKosmonaut>
Autism is not voluntary. These are people that nurture themselves to this point. Like a morbidly obese person.
<TheKosmonaut>
That isn’t to say they are mutually exclusive groups
<TheKosmonaut>
There’s certainly overlap
<Greys>
it's not that they're X, it's that it makes X people behave Y
<TheKosmonaut>
Ok.
<Greys>
great
<Greys>
now the analog was nazi trump supporters
<Greys>
it's not a problem that nazis like trump, it's that they're nazis
<Greys>
if nazis liked ellen degenris they'd still be nazis
<Greys>
although that'd be pretty weird
<TheKosmonaut>
Ellen is a nazi
<Greys>
she's gay
<TheKosmonaut>
Blonde, blue eyes
<Greys>
she's aryan yea
<TheKosmonaut>
So is rokker but he’s still a nazi
<stratochief>
aryan does not equal nazi. citation: am an aryan
<Greys>
yea but you're also a nazi
<Greys>
why are there so many fucking nazis in this channel
<Greys>
#KSPREICH
<Rokker>
stratochief: ur a shit aryan
<TheKosmonaut>
stratochief: god damn nazi
<stratochief>
White North, strong and free #MakeCanadaGreatAgain
<Rokker>
im pure blooded
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: shall I link your meme album
<Rokker>
stratochief: get the fuck out of this channel
<Rokker>
stratochief: this is not the place for your level of political discourse
<Rokker>
save urself
<stratochief>
Rokker: if you are what comes of a german+german , the neos should just pack it in and all mass hitler
<stratochief>
Greys: where do you live with just poor air?
<Greys>
the situation you have in places like walmart is a big room, where chemicals are stored and used, and many people pass through continuously; for decades, and the air inside is recirculated endlessly
<darklight>
"Tribute to british columbia's official bird, the mos-key-ter
<Greys>
the only new air that comes in is from the doors, which they keep closed as much as possible to save on cooling costs
<TheKosmonaut>
Greys: dude. This sounds like bullshit.
<SilverFox>
Greys, if you're finding yourself winded, I suggest eating healthier, dieting, and exercising more, especially if you've been gaining weight
<Greys>
you've proven yourself to be a terrible source of medical advice, particularly wanted advice
<SilverFox>
fuck you too then
<SilverFox>
continue your spiral
<Greys>
I'll spiral yer mom
<Rokker>
Greys: you are spitting in the face of all accepted medical science
<SilverFox>
you'll find it harder and harder to do the things you used to
<darklight>
Rokker: "We will tread on you"
<RandomJeb>
is Rokker going to have another meltdown?
<Greys>
you're making so many assumptions foxbutt
<SilverFox>
prove me wrong
<SilverFox>
this isnt because of "bad air"
<stratochief>
SilverFox: miasma :P
<SilverFox>
kek
<Greys>
once again you've fallen into the falicy of assuming that other people have to prove you wrong
<Greys>
I ain't gotta shit a thing for you to not be right
<Greys>
but you sure as fuck gotta prove yourself right to not be wrong
<SilverFox>
body positivity is a lie
<Greys>
how does body positivity even fall into the domain of lies
<SilverFox>
you're going to rely on more and more to support you, eventually
<RandomJeb>
uh
<SilverFox>
it's a downward spiral
<RandomJeb>
body positivity is a very healthy thing
<RandomJeb>
don't be negative about your body
<RandomJeb>
don't think your body is fat and stupid and has an ugly face and you hate it and the balls stink
<RandomJeb>
that's not a good mindset
<Greys>
does anybody fucking know what rant silver is on
<RandomJeb>
nope
<stratochief>
neither person can prove whether you feeling shitty is because of 'bad air' or 'bad body' without data about either, or both. in this instance, you can't demand internet strangers provide data about the air around -you- or the body around -you- to 'prove their point'
<RandomJeb>
well
<Greys>
now that sounds rational
<RandomJeb>
when internet strangers are already providing data on your condition
<RandomJeb>
I think it's fair to demand they give you relevant data about your environment
<Greys>
I'm not inclined to trust facts about my condition or space provided by internet strangers, let alone silver
<TheKosmonaut>
From what I hear greys
<TheKosmonaut>
You’re fat as fuck
<TheKosmonaut>
So is Rokker
<Greys>
nah
<TheKosmonaut>
If Rokker talks about how winded he is
<Greys>
I'm still human shaped
<TheKosmonaut>
I tell him he’s a fat fuck
<TheKosmonaut>
No wait up now
<TheKosmonaut>
Human shape has no bearing on health
<darklight>
TK is jealous he isn't allowed to get fat
<Greys>
you could have an obese BMI from being overly muscular
<RandomJeb>
that's me
<RandomJeb>
I'm the highest level of fatness, I forget what BMI calls it, obese? Superfat?
<RandomJeb>
something
<RandomJeb>
but my body fat percentage is below 20%
<stratochief>
RandomJeb: "ready to die"? phat?
<RandomJeb>
probably something like that
<SilverFox>
"morbidly obese"?
<RandomJeb>
yeah I think that might be it
<Greys>
"Extremely Obese"
<stratochief>
2 Fat, 2 Furious
<Greys>
;wa 160cm to imperial
<kmath>
Greys: convert 160 cm (centimeters) to imperial: 5.249 feet5' 2.992"62.99 inches
<Greys>
;wa 115kg to pounds
<kmath>
Greys: convert 115 kg (kilograms) to pounds: 253.5 lb (pounds)253 pounds 8.506 ounces
<RandomJeb>
that's uh
<TheKosmonaut>
stratochief RandomJeb yes it’s stupid but if you have a BMI of 30 and find yourself needing oxygen masks
<TheKosmonaut>
Then you fat as fuck
<darklight>
I'm ~26 bmi :<
<RandomJeb>
lol fatty fat
<darklight>
That's definitely "pudgey"
<Greys>
unless you're very muscular
<SilverFox>
mine is 18.8
<RandomJeb>
skinnyfat
<Greys>
muscle is denser than fat
<TheKosmonaut>
Greys: muscular, healthy people don’t tend to be winded by walking around the wal-mart
<TheKosmonaut>
Come on quit the bullshit
<Greys>
quit refusing your export of shame?
<Greys>
gonna pass on that
<darklight>
I'm a farm guy - my upper bdy strength is definitely fine, but I am not at all muscular
<RandomJeb>
darklight do you use roundup?
<darklight>
RandomJeb yeah but it's marketed as growler
<Greys>
what about hotdogs
<RandomJeb>
if I use it to murder a few slopes, how much will the runoff murder everything below the slopes?
<Greys>
how much time do you have?
<RandomJeb>
600 years
<darklight>
We also use gramoxone (that's the bad bad one), atrazine, diuron, and monopoly/daconate
<Greys>
btw TheKosmonaut, who besides you decided I was winded?
<TheKosmonaut>
Greys: You’re literally googling breathing apparatuses and claiming it isn’t because you’re obese but rather blaming the environment around you. holy Moses, that is some class-A1 denial right there.
<Greys>
RandomJeb, do you have access to black poly?
<darklight>
Err, just read the label, generally you put a whole 10L bottle in a 1kL tank
<darklight>
Except gramoxone
<Greys>
lay it on the slopes, the lack of sun will starve the plants, and the concentrated heat of the sun will cook them to death
<RandomJeb>
Greys: that is a decent idea
<RandomJeb>
gonna have to wait until next year when we have sun from the north though
<RandomJeb>
too late now
<Greys>
it's how my mom kills grass to expand her garden; except she uses leaves instead of black poly
<RandomJeb>
we only have sun from the south and these slopes catch none of that
<darklight>
Isn't calling them slopes racist?
<darklight>
:P
<RandomJeb>
I'm not up on my racist terminology what race is a slope?
<darklight>
Iirc roundup kills broadleaf things but its a general poison
<Greys>
polish?
<darklight>
If involves their eyes
<darklight>
It
<RandomJeb>
oh right so like chaina
<darklight>
But yeah, cardboard or whatever will kill anything underneath it
TheKosmonaut has quit []
<RandomJeb>
I need to kill off so much shit I'm gonna buy many square kilometers of murder cover
<RandomJeb>
problem being that all I want to kill runs off to ground I want to grow things in
<Greys>
it won't hurt to put the poly on now
<darklight>
Roundup isn't a persistant
<darklight>
iirc
<darklight>
It'll only knock things back then its done
<RandomJeb>
hmm
<darklight>
Which is why we used daconate
<RandomJeb>
I have this vat of roundup in the shed, it came with the house
<darklight>
or atrazine
<RandomJeb>
when this land was last used for farming they didn't have fancy stuff like roundup so I assume it was a bargain buy they used for gardening or something
<darklight>
I can't really say much about strength as it comes in different strengths I thinks, but my only advice is wash your hands after mixing and keep upwind of it. I learned the second one the hard way :P
<darklight>
Roundup isn't at all fancy
<Greys>
how slow can a centrifugle fan run before it's not going to move air
<RandomJeb>
it's fancy compared to the farming that went on here
<RandomJeb>
with hand ploughs and stuff
<Greys>
oh good, theko left
<Greys>
he's really turing into an ass
<darklight>
Hand plough? What era are you living in? :P
<darklight>
I assume this is just like a backyard garden right?
<RandomJeb>
I'm living in the modern era, but this farmland is pretty old
<RandomJeb>
there are lots of overgrown fields
<Rokker>
Greys: shut the fuck up
<darklight>
If this is any serious amount of land, I think you'd be better hoeing it in, waiting for the weeds and then spraying
<RandomJeb>
currently clearing away the jungle from most of it
<Greys>
somebody must have made an illustration of a quadcupter in a field roped to a plough, farside style
<darklight>
Posions are one hell of an expensive way to get rid of crap :P
<Rokker>
stratochief RandomJeb you wanna know why we are judging her medical history
<RandomJeb>
what's the speaker for?
<Greys>
supposedly the extreme camber of the wheels also shoves dirt around to prevent seeds grabbing hold
<Greys>
talking to your plants
<RandomJeb>
not really Rokker, I'm over it
<Greys>
probably for a finding beacon
<Greys>
link up with your phone, push a button, and it starts chiming so you can find it in your garden
<darklight>
I'm confused but it would be amusing to try to build
<Greys>
made by the same guy who invented the roomba
<darklight>
I think I prefer gardening with cody though
<Greys>
cody does cool stuff yea
<Greys>
I want to see him install his system in the ground, but I think he lives somewhere that freezes in the winter
<darklight>
Not needed :P
<Greys>
who said anything about need
<RandomJeb>
I wouldn't mind having an army of them around, but with how sloped this area is and how the sun tends to bob around the horizon in summer I suspect they wouldn't work that well here
<Greys>
hmmm, maybe he could get line heaters to keep the water from freezing
<darklight>
Water won't freeze here :P
<Greys>
it will here
<Greys>
and I think it will were Cody lives
<darklight>
Upside downy and all that
<darklight>
Utah
<Greys>
so when winter comes he's planning to dismantle the system and put it in his basement
<Greys>
even if it wouldn't grow well over the winter, if he could keep it installed that'd make next-year benefit much more efficient
<VanDisaster>
anyone know of any forensic recovery tools for f2fs? backup image didn't write the superblock or any other useful data, so it's not much of a backup...
<Truga>
f2fs?
<VanDisaster>
filesystem for flash cards
<VanDisaster>
samsung phones use it
<Truga>
rip
<VanDisaster>
it's annoying, data is all visible in a hex dump, just nothing around to recombine any of it
<Truga>
well
<Truga>
f2fsck?
<VanDisaster>
doesn't recognise the fs, coz there's no metadata
<Truga>
how did you do the backup even
<VanDisaster>
raw image
<Truga>
yeah but what did you dd
<Truga>
sdb or sdb1
<VanDisaster>
stuck it in a card reader & used windiskimager, iirc
<Truga>
uh
<Truga>
rip your data
<VanDisaster>
which is effectively dd of the raw device
<Truga>
except when it's not apparently? :D
<VanDisaster>
yeah, I'm not doing it again for this type of fs
<Truga>
my best is, your thing saved everything on the filesystem, but not the filesystem itself because windows is stupid
<Truga>
best bet*
<VanDisaster>
it does a straight block copy of the whole card, so *shrug*
<VanDisaster>
I've got other images from sd cards with different fs types which are happily mountable
<VanDisaster>
just... something wierd about f2fs
<VanDisaster>
the fat32 boot partition is fine
<Truga>
possible
<Truga>
honestly I've never heard of f2fs before today
<Truga>
don't use filesystems you've never heard of imo :D
<Greys>
it's uncommon
<Greys>
in android you don't generally have a lot of choice
<Truga>
is that what android uses
<Greys>
vendors have 100% control over what file systems they support on the SD card, and they usually make selfish decisions
<VanDisaster>
it's for a rpi, so a flash friendly fs helps a lot to avoid it chewing the sd card up
<Truga>
unless you do a lot of read/writes your card will last forever either way
<VanDisaster>
my old one chewed up two cards with ext3 already
<Truga>
my rpi has been happily chugging along on ext4 for years now
<Truga>
hmm
<VanDisaster>
but yeah, probably going back to ext* if the new card ever arrives...
<Truga>
that is odd
<VanDisaster>
f2fs is fast tho
<Truga>
ehh
<Truga>
so is /dev/null
<VanDisaster>
well this is probably not a complete disaster, pulling text files out of hex is easy & that's 90% of rebuilding the entire box
<VanDisaster>
losing the sql dbs will be annoying
<darklight>
I recovered another one of my sisters camera cards with photorec
<darklight>
I've done this a few times...
<darklight>
I considered btrfs but meh, I used ext4
<Truga>
butterfs is kinda stalling
<darklight>
I only used debian armhf though.
<darklight>
Photorec will recover what it thinks are files, but you will lose their names
<Truga>
and probably won't work with an obscure fs nobody uses :p
<VanDisaster>
it does, I had a brief play in a vm & ran out of space :p
<Truga>
heh
<TheKosmonaut>
Greys: if you think I’m a dick say it while I’m online
<TheKosmonaut>
Greys: if you think I’m an ass, then I’ll say what I think you are.
<TheKosmonaut>
You’re an autistic twat
<TheKosmonaut>
You come up with entirely false views on topics you can’t even begin to understand, and when everyone points out how wrong you are, it’s somehow their fault.
<Rokker>
she's so stubborn too
<TheKosmonaut>
Oh, and you have like half the channel ignored by now. 1/4 isle, the others just left because of your inanity.
<TheKosmonaut>
Idle*
<TheKosmonaut>
So when you have a majority of people disagreeing with you, it’s them who are crazy. Have you considered that you’re fucking bonkers?
<RandomJeb>
not having followed the drama that has led up to this divide I'll just chip in that when the "majority" that is anti-greys is also a bunch of nutcases that go on frothing angry meltdown rants I kind of grow a bias against them being the correct side of whatever the split is about
<Truga>
lol modding drama
<Truga>
modding channel drama*
<TheKosmonaut>
RandomJeb: is vitas one of those nut jobs?
<TheKosmonaut>
Because he’s blocked too
<RandomJeb>
I dunno
<RandomJeb>
I don't know what the teams are
<TheKosmonaut>
She just whines to majimboo and other ops whenever she gets a hard time
<TheKosmonaut>
She is such a cancer that we literally moved to kspmodding
<TheKosmonaut>
Instead of this channel
<Truga>
oh is that why this channel died
<TheKosmonaut>
Truga: yeah
<Truga>
someone should've told me lmao
<TheKosmonaut>
So actual modding goes on in that channel
<TheKosmonaut>
This is just where greys goes on rants that we keep timers for
<TheKosmonaut>
And continues to be in denial about obvious shit
<TheKosmonaut>
RandomJeb: I will admit that I am a nut job
<TheKosmonaut>
But I moved away from this channel mostly because of that shit. Then people like SilverFox ping me with Japanese questions
<TheKosmonaut>
So now most of my activity is on another channel not really related
<SilverFox>
my name's Jeff
<Rokker>
RandomJeb: she went on a 30 minute long rant about an anime with nobody else talking
<Rokker>
she has lowered this channel to a level of quality I thought not possible
<SilverFox>
Truga, you didn't know about modding?
* TheKosmonaut
should have unbanned TechnicolorDalek and Ian2
<Truga>
I uh
<SilverFox>
well, better late than never
<SilverFox>
I even made a bot command for it
<SilverFox>
~kspm
<FoxBot9000>
If you haven't already, you can try asking the question in #kspmodding for a more related/accurate response.
<Truga>
I kinda don't really follow these channels much these days :p
<Truga>
since I don't ksp much
<SilverFox>
fair enough
<Truga>
I only start it every now and then to dick around with building and crashing a plane repeatedly :p
<SilverFox>
neat
<RandomJeb>
Rokker: oh no not a 30 minute rant about anime, the absolute fiend
<SilverFox>
I do the same pretty much
* RandomJeb
rolls eyes
<TheKosmonaut>
SilverFox: but at least you take me on when I tell you how dumb you is
<TheKosmonaut>
Speaking of dumb
<SilverFox>
wut
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: how are you doing?
<SilverFox>
getfukt.gif
<Truga>
very imperial I bet
<Truga>
:V
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: kys faggot
<Rokker>
ur worse than greys
<Rokker>
sorry that's too far
<SilverFox>
2 nukes wasnt enough
<SilverFox>
this channel needs 3
<Truga>
it's ok trump is el prez now
<Rokker>
better than shillary
<SilverFox>
REEEEEEEEEE
<Truga>
Rokker uhhh
<Truga>
uhhhhhhh
<Truga>
hitlary is the worst, but no, not better than her
<Truga>
unless you're an accelerationist
<SilverFox>
okay wait
<SilverFox>
wait
<SilverFox>
how is someone the worst, but simultaneously there is someone not better?
<Rokker>
Truga: nah
<Truga>
SilverFox quantum tunneling.
<Rokker>
Truga: trump is marginally better than hillary
<Truga>
the bar so low, but he still manages
<Rokker>
which is enough for me
<Rokker>
which is why I voted for him
<Truga>
you can't be serious
<Truga>
jesus christ
<Rokker>
that and meme magic
<Truga>
i'm so sorry
<Truga>
I've never spoken to a nazi on irc, what happened to your brain to cause this??
<RandomJeb>
as a tongue-in-cheek accelerationist and not an american I think trump is the greatest president america has had in a long time
<RandomJeb>
:3
<Truga>
RandomJeb yeah that works
<Truga>
I, too, think trump is really good for me, but i'm 1) not american and 2) white cis male scum
<Truga>
so I won't really feel any bad he does
<Rokker>
Truga: you can try to say all trump voters were Nazis but the narrative doesn't fit the truth
<RandomJeb>
I do think accelerationism works to a degree though, but it needs other supporting structures to lead to anything good
<RandomJeb>
and I don't think those structures are anywhere near in place in the US
<Truga>
yeah
<Truga>
it's just a shitshow to the bottom instead
<Truga>
Rokker you voted for a fascist, if that doens't make you one, nothing does
<Truga>
hth
<Rokker>
he's not a fascist
<Rokker>
ur just a retard
<Truga>
he's a literal 21st century fascist
<Truga>
i'm sorry you can't see
<Rokker>
no
<Rokker>
he's not
<Rokker>
you are absurd
<Truga>
nah
<Rokker>
yes
<Truga>
please explain to me how a person trying to enact fascist practices in his govt is not a fascist
<Truga>
i'll wait
<Rokker>
what practices
<Truga>
also covering for his kkk friends
<Truga>
lmfao
<Truga>
have you seen the last weekend
<Rokker>
listen dipshit
<Rokker>
you can't just say that and act like you have a point
<RandomJeb>
depending on what form of fascism we're using I think you could lay the accusation of fascism at the feet of modern america at least back to the 50's
<kmath>
<realDonaldTrump> Study what General Pershing of the United States did to terrorists when caught. There was no more Radical Islamic Terror for 35 years!
<Truga>
here's one
<Rokker>
Truga: this may work in your trump hate circle jerk
<Rokker>
but in the real world you have to provide real evidence
<Truga>
this works everywhere except in r/doland
<Rokker>
that's not a policy
<Rokker>
no it doesnt
<Truga>
oh yes it does
<Rokker>
you are the political discourse equivalent of a downy child
<Truga>
and you voted a literal white supremacist apologist into the most powerful office in the world
<Rokker>
no
<Truga>
yes.
<Rokker>
I didn't
<Truga>
you just said you did
<Truga>
I'm sorry you fell for his terrible fascist propaganda, it's very tragic
<Rokker>
what part of calling the kkk repugnant to all American values is supporting the kkk?
<Truga>
the part where he didn't want to do it until literally everyone called him out on it.
<Truga>
"many sides many sides"
<Truga>
lmaoooooooooo
<Rokker>
nigga
<Rokker>
the kkk is included in that both sides statement you waste of oxygen
<Truga>
yes, but both sides weren't at fault
<Truga>
nazis were
<Rokker>
they were
<Truga>
nah
<Rokker>
the Nazis weren't just punching themselves in the face
<Truga>
well it's ok because punching nazis is legal
<Rokker>
whatever
<Rokker>
I'm don't arguing with a retard
<Rokker>
kill yourself for the good of humanity
<Truga>
i'm sorry this isn't your hugbox where everyone agrees with your nazi ideas bro
<Rokker>
Truga: stratochief can tell you I spend most of my time out of the hugbox
<Rokker>
talking to people of many opinions
<Rokker>
because I actually care about learning and growing my opinions
<Truga>
how do you do that and still vote trump?
<Rokker>
instead of sheltering myself in a leftyfag circlejerk
<stratochief>
Rokker: don't pull me in, I still know your pressure points :P
<stratochief>
Truga: ask Rokker if he believes that Trump or Bannon are racist or not
<Truga>
i did
<Rokker>
the only interaction you have had with trump supporters and right wingers is calling them idiots and then you act all high and might and superior truga
<Truga>
he says they're not
<Rokker>
stratochief: he can't even provide evidence for the most basic statement
<Rokker>
fuck him
<Truga>
Rokker I'm sorry stating the truth is so hurtful to you
<Rokker>
he's a cancer on humanity
<Truga>
i did
<Truga>
you refused to read it
<Rokker>
no
<Rokker>
you linked me his Twitter account
<stratochief>
Truga: and to be fair, Trump promised a great deal of good things during the campaign that even appealed to a lefty like me. difference is that I have no faith that trump wasn't lying to everyone's face, and don't think he has any talent applicable to governance or national leadership.
<Rokker>
give me a fascist policy truga
<Rokker>
give me one
<Rokker>
not a tweet
<Rokker>
a policy he is trying to implement or has implemented
<stratochief>
Rokker: muslim ban! callin' all the mexicans rapists! :P
<Truga>
i'm sorry your president is a shit who rules by twatter
<stratochief>
Rokker: or, if you actually want to talk to this new guy in good faith, at least throw him some fishfeed and mention the sources I've already thrown at you
<Rokker>
stratochief: this is about trugas inability to even provide the mildest source for political discource
<stratochief>
Rokker: or else IMO you are arguing in bad faith, by pretending you don't already know things that you know.
<Truga>
the time for political "discourse" has long passed in USA
<Truga>
dude
<Rokker>
stratochief: about his default being complete rejection and attack on someone based on their vote
<Truga>
people are going to die one way or another
<Truga>
it's only a matter of time
<Truga>
if something doesn't move
<Rokker>
Truga: you called me a nazi
<Rokker>
kill yourself
<FoxBot9000>
Rokker, no u
<Rokker>
you trash
<stratochief>
Truga: alirght, then the fuck are you attempting to engage Rokker about/with, if not political discourse?
<Rokker>
fucking end yourself
<Truga>
stratochief calling him on his bullshit really
<Truga>
:P
<stratochief>
Truga: if you just want to yell at something you already assume is inadequate and wrong, just scream at yur own genitals
<Rokker>
the world doesn't need more dividers like you
<Rokker>
people who couldn't accurately debate or discuss politics
<Rokker>
who just resorted to Nazi accusations
<Truga>
calling a nazi a nazi is about as accurate as it gets dude
<Rokker>
are why trump is president
<Truga>
i'm sorry
<Rokker>
are why people couldn't change people's opinion on trump
<Truga>
i'm sorry you seem to think nazis don't exist
<Truga>
but they do
<Rokker>
no
<Rokker>
it's you
<Rokker>
it's that simple
<Truga>
ah yes
<Rokker>
if you had stopped screeching automatically for 5 minutes
<Truga>
the person calling out the nazis is the real nazi
<Rokker>
and actually tried to make sensible arguments
<Truga>
nice argument there
<Rokker>
autistically*
<Rokker>
then less people would have voted for him
<Truga>
nah
<Truga>
they wouldn't
<Rokker>
but all you guys could focus on was he's racist, he's sexist, he's istist
<Truga>
trump got voted in to build his wall, ban muslim, and other nazi shit
<Truga>
yes
<Truga>
exactly
<Truga>
because he is
<Truga>
precisely because he is
<Truga>
and the suckers bought it
<Truga>
and now they're going to pay the bill
<stratochief>
Truga: Rokker: can't you agree to MAGA? Make Arguing Great Again ?
<Rokker>
I hope you get shot in self defense at one of your antifa rallies you blight upon the face of the earth
<Truga>
i just hope shit goes down in USA and not elsewhere because nukes suck
<Truga>
stratochief arguing owns
<Truga>
I don't need to go to antifa rallies
<Truga>
where I'm from, we killed all the nazis 70 years ago
<Rokker>
the right is on the rise everywhere
<Rokker>
and most of the left is incapable of providing debates against them
<Truga>
is that why it's in freefall in europe since trump got elected?
<Truga>
lmao
<Rokker>
you have grown too accustomed to not having too
<Rokker>
you have relies on racism and sexism accusations for too long
<Truga>
uh
<Truga>
accusations? it's the truth man
<Rokker>
called everyone racist sexists for too long
<Rokker>
little boy who cried wolf
<Rokker>
it has a modern application
<Truga>
it does
<Truga>
it's "build the wall"
<Truga>
and when the wall is built and you're trapped inside
<Truga>
what then
<Rokker>
when you call everyone on the right racist nazis, most people wont believe you when the racist Nazis show up
<Truga>
hahahahaha
<Truga>
oh really now
<Rokker>
Truga: I'm giving you insight into the mind of a trump voter. I've been called a racist most of my life for being a Republican
<Truga>
the only people who still believe trump and pretend he's not a nazi are smoothbrain idiots and other nazis
<Rokker>
you know why accusing trump of being racist didn't dissuade me?
<Rokker>
because of grown used to it
<Rokker>
id
<Truga>
so you're fine with him being a racist is what you're saying?
<Rokker>
I'm giving you advice
<Truga>
so you're fine with him being a racist is what you're saying?
<Rokker>
and you are refusing to listen
<Truga>
please answer the question
<Rokker>
I'm done talking to you
<Truga>
ah
<Truga>
yes
<Truga>
figures
<Truga>
thanks for proving my point
<Rokker>
what point
<Truga>
see you again
<Truga>
i'll let you figure that one out yourself
<Rokker>
you had no point other than me and everyone like me is a nazi
<Truga>
so you're fine with him being a racist is what you're saying?
<Rokker>
in gonna go kill some jews and give you time to think about how you go about political discourse
<Truga>
ah but you're not the racist, no sirrrr
<Rokker>
no I'm not fine with it if he actually is a racist
<Truga>
lmfao
<Rokker>
but you have to make a convincing argument as to why he's a racist
<Truga>
so, in light of all the evidence that he's a racist, sexist pig
<Truga>
why vote?
<Rokker>
you can't just call him it
<Truga>
ah
<Truga>
well
<Rokker>
you haven't provided any evidence yourself
<Rokker>
was mitt Romney a sexist
<Rokker>
was George Bush a racist
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: Hey, I am Lan Xang, I just declared war on Ryukyu
<Truga>
"It's certainly not groundbreaking news that the early victories by the women on The Apprentice were, to a very large extent, dependent on their sex appeal." (In his 2004 book How to Get Rich.)
<Rokker>
because I've heard many people say they were for bullshit reasons
<TheKosmonaut>
Make Japan Laotian Again(?) for the first time
<Truga>
"All of the women on 'The Apprentice' flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That's to be expected. A sexual dynamic is always present between people, unless you are asexual." (In How to Get Rich.)
<Rokker>
why should I believe you
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: do it muhnigga
<Truga>
“If Hillary Clinton can’t satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?” (April 2015. He later deleted the tweet.)
<Truga>
"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything …Grab them by the p***y … You can do anything." (2005, in off-camera remarks recorded by the Access Hollywood show that were published on Friday by the Washington Post.)
<Truga>
want me to move on to racist now?
<Rokker>
Truga: go for it
* xShadowx|2
sees channel
* xShadowx|2
puts channel in pit
* xShadowx|2
puts fire in pit
<TheKosmonaut>
xShadowx|2: Put the lotion in the basket
<RandomJeb>
woo fire
* xShadowx|2
takes fire out of pit, not waning to hurt fire
<TheKosmonaut>
it puts the lotion in the basket
* xShadowx|2
fills pit with acid
<TheKosmonaut>
or it gets the hose again
<Rokker>
Truga: actually dont
<RandomJeb>
is muslim a race? If so, was obama racist against muslims?
<Rokker>
cause I don't think you will provide any great evidence outside of spam
<Rokker>
RandomJeb: it's not a race and Obama was pretty fucked up towards a lot of Muslim countries
<xShadowx|2>
he grew up with em :P
<TheKosmonaut>
RandomJeb: Obama was the worst muslim kenyan who ever lived
<Truga>
right where was i
<Truga>
oh right
<Truga>
Rokker so what you're saying is, you're fine with your president being a sexist racist pig
<Truga>
good we could clear that up thanks
<Rokker>
Truga: I'm gonna go gas some jews and start a race war, and when I get back, you can apologize to me for calling me a nazi for no reason at all
<Truga>
my point exactly
<xShadowx|2>
eh kilary was a crook, both choices sucked XD
<Rokker>
you don't have a point
<Truga>
xShadowx|2 both choices sucking doesn't mean you pick the one that's worse in every single way
<Rokker>
xShadowx|2: REEEEEEE BOTH SIDES *autistic screeching*
<Truga>
trump is just as much of a crook, but he's also a literal nazi
<RandomJeb>
was he racist against arabs or semites (in the wider sense of middle eastern ethnicities and not just ethnic jews in particular)? I mean he even ordered the drone bombing of an american boy in a country the US wasn't in war with presumably just because he was arab
<xShadowx|2>
nah kilary more of a crook, lied constantly
<Truga>
RandomJeb probably
<Truga>
and trump didn't?
<Rokker>
Truga: he's talking about obama
<Truga>
Rokker i know
<xShadowx|2>
not as much
<Truga>
so fucking what
<Truga>
xShadowx|2 you must have had him on mute then
<Truga>
lol
<RandomJeb>
so what about hillary? She pushed hard for the ethnic cleansing of blacks in libya as secretary of state
<Truga>
nice
<Truga>
when did she do this again?
<Rokker>
RandomJeb: ima need evidence
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: I got Okinawa bish
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: Also, I colonized Taiwan
<Rokker>
see that's where I'm better than Truga
<TheKosmonaut>
#1
<Rokker>
I'm consistent in my principles
<Truga>
Rokker oh?
<xShadowx|2>
i find it funny people are arguing over which option in a cesspool was better, when both choices sucked, you wanna roll in dog shit or camel shit? pick one :D
<Truga>
consistent in being a nazi is good now?
<Truga>
lmfao
<Truga>
you'll never ever catch me saying hillary is good
<Rokker>
I need evidence for absurd claims on either side
<TheKosmonaut>
HItler was consistent too, consistency isn't always good.
<Truga>
and i believe RandomJeb I just wanna see when that happened
<RandomJeb>
Truga: uh... The NATO war in libya she pushed for was literally NATO clearing the way for an ethnic cleansing of blacks
<Truga>
for trump finding shit is much easier - it's all on twatter.
<xShadowx|2>
hitler had the right idea, wrong execution, the world wants equality, gotta kill everyone equally
<Truga>
xShadowx|2 lmfao
<Truga>
are you fucking real right now
<Rokker>
RandomJeb: give evidence you fucking Alex jonesian nutjob
<Truga>
what is this nazi central
<Truga>
Rokker i kinda googled that now and yes
<Rokker>
ur out of ur outbox, truga
<Truga>
it does appear to be an alex jonesian conspiracy
<xShadowx|2>
im not racist, i hate everyone equally :)
<Truga>
no, indiscriminate hate isn't fine either
<Truga>
i used to make that joke, but it's just not funny in 2017 anymore. :P
<Truga>
unless you mean the whole humanity including you
<Rokker>
Truga: like I said, I'm consistent
<Truga>
i could get behind that
<Truga>
humanity is a cancer
<xShadowx|2>
^
<Truga>
anyway, I'm loving this accelerationist timeline
<Truga>
it's been just comedy trainwreck since about mid last year
<xShadowx|2>
Truga: i always thought he was talking about a pill to cure it, being better than our big pharma, but he really ment cure the human race that is cancer!
<xShadowx|2>
does that mean unicorns really do exist ther too?!
<RandomJeb>
"Along the road that leads into Tawargha, the Misurata Brigade has painted a slogan. It is, it says, "the brigade for purging slaves [and] black skin.""
<Greys>
SilverFox, joe malkovavich put out a new microhydro video, huge crawfish
<Truga>
RandomJeb yeah and that's terrible, but where does it say hillary ordered that
<Rokker>
Truga: did u know that the holocaust was a lie
<Truga>
i do now!
<Truga>
i guess i'll have to tell my grandma who survived dahau
<Rokker>
Truga: it was all a lie perpetrated by the Nazis to make them seem cooler than they really were
<Truga>
lol if you really believe that
<RandomJeb>
where did I say hillary ordered that?
<Truga>
you said she pushed for the cleansing
<Rokker>
Truga: did you know that black people were invented in 1651 by a jew to help eliminate the white race
<RandomJeb>
she did
<Truga>
i know now!
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: Oh yeahhhh
<RandomJeb>
that is not the same as ordering this specific cleansing
<TheKosmonaut>
Now colonizing the Philippines
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: Take that, spain
<RandomJeb>
don't shift the goalposts insanely and then accuse me of conspiracy theory
<Truga>
i'm sorry
<Truga>
show me where she pushed
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: 4:13?
<Truga>
for the cleansing
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: Philippines 4:13?
<Rokker>
fuck I'm funny
<Greys>
I think wee're gonna need to transition this channel to full time explicit declaration of goalposts before participation in conversations
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: that was the funniest shit ever right?
<Truga>
RandomJeb well?
<Truga>
where did she push for cleansing
NocnaShada has joined #kspmodders
<Truga>
i'm sorry i said ordered when you said pushed
<stratochief>
Rokker: naww. I was taught that black people are just white people who've sinned too much. source: mormonism pre-1974
<Rokker>
Truga: she told her daughter to take a bath once
<NocnaShada>
what what what
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: I am Lan Xang, I don't know who this christ guy is
<Rokker>
Truga: advocating cleansing
<Truga>
"phrase not found"
<NocnaShada>
black people were "invented by the jews"????
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: hi, welcome to the shitshow
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: duh?
<Truga>
i'm sorry, can you post the relevant bit
<NocnaShada>
what does "invent" mean in this context?
<Truga>
i'm not going to read failing nytimes just to find 1 line
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: a Jewish alchemists formed them out of a piece of coal
<Rokker>
obviously
<TheKosmonaut>
Truga: SAD!
<NocnaShada>
oh
<Truga>
i know right
<Truga>
low energy
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: duh
<TheKosmonaut>
Am jewish, can confirm.
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: anyways, how can we help u today
<TheKosmonaut>
It's brought up in all of the Globalist meetings
<NocnaShada>
well, i heard of this zoo
<NocnaShada>
i mean #kspmodders
<TheKosmonaut>
NocnaShada: That's racist
<NocnaShada>
where there was supposed to be a guy claiming "black people were invented by jews"
<NocnaShada>
but i was wrong!
<NocnaShada>
it's okay
<NocnaShada>
i can safely say it's just a troll.
<NocnaShada>
phew.
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: where do you hail from
<Rokker>
did truga send you
<NocnaShada>
galaxy far away.
<Truga>
i just posted some nice quotes
<Rokker>
are u an agent of that commie fuck
<Truga>
lmao
<NocnaShada>
death to communism.
<Truga>
NocnaShada is about as far from communism as you can ge
<Truga>
t
<NocnaShada>
lol are you paranoid or something.
<Truga>
but he's still not a dirty nazi
<NocnaShada>
Rokker: isn't either Truga
<Truga>
ah right
<NocnaShada>
he pulled a nice prank tho
<Truga>
he's not a racist he just thinks white people are superior
<Truga>
i'm glad we got that sorted out
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: I'm just trolling truga cause he called me a nazi for voting trump
<NocnaShada>
no no, at this point you can't tell what he thinks
<Truga>
well that's kinda the definition of a nazi
<NocnaShada>
oh you did?
<Truga>
in 2017
<Truga>
either that, or a sucker
<NocnaShada>
poor soul.
<Truga>
and you don't seem like a sucker so
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: eh, I did it more because I'd rather have a shitshow than hillary
<Truga>
ah an accelerationist then
<RandomJeb>
Truga: right so you're not going to read sources so I'm not going to bother wading through tons of bullshit and questionable outlets to get you sources you could possibly accept as reliable
<TheKosmonaut>
Truga: Rokker doesn't think whites are superior
<Truga>
if I'm going to claim something I'm going to post the exact line
<TheKosmonaut>
... he knows it
<Rokker>
Truga: no, I'm a nazi, we've been over this
<Rokker>
seig heil
<Truga>
TheKosmonaut oh right
<Truga>
well I hope the USA implodes on their nazism on their own
<Rokker>
Truga: you know how you can tell I'm a white supremacist?
<TheKosmonaut>
Truga: I tried to join his nazi club but I am jewish
<Rokker>
my love of anime. I'm a super weeb just like all other white supremacist
<Truga>
rip you
<TheKosmonaut>
So they said I could join but I'd need to sign up in their showers.
<Rokker>
ur half jew
<Rokker>
which is worse
<RandomJeb>
what exact line are you looking for? Hillary worked diligently for a libya war in a government that was hesitant, what single sound bite out of this do you want?
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: is truga always this gullible?
<Truga>
RandomJeb the bit where she knew there'd be cleansing and pushed for it?
<Truga>
which is what you said?
<Truga>
there's zero mention cleansing in that article
<Truga>
Rokker only since trump got elected
<Truga>
because people really are dumb enough to elect trump
<NocnaShada>
Rokker: how am i supposed to know?
<Truga>
so i don't know what's real anymore
<NocnaShada>
that i can agree with.
<Truga>
i mean, we can all agree hillary would be an extremely bad and boring president all day
<NocnaShada>
"how the hell do you elect someone like trump?"
<Truga>
but i'd rather have that than possible nukular hellfire because kim insulted trump on twatter
<TheKosmonaut>
I wish President Park was still in charge of S. korea
<NocnaShada>
but more than that: "how the hell is he still not stuck on a pike on WH lawn yet?"
<TheKosmonaut>
we could have gotten a more entertaining face off this year
<Truga>
NocnaShada not enough experience
<Truga>
USA is a young country remember
<Truga>
:P
<NocnaShada>
i guess ...
<TheKosmonaut>
Even if trump gets impeached, he isn't gonna exactly be hung by his endtrails or anything
<NocnaShada>
yeah, obviously
<Rokker>
older than germany
<TheKosmonaut>
But no, Trump is gonna be president for 8 years
<TheKosmonaut>
I can almost guarantee it
<Truga>
tbh if he doesn't get impeached the chance of him getting hung is far higher
<Truga>
:P
<Truga>
oh yes
<Truga>
i'm counting on it
<NocnaShada>
but if i were american, i'd totally vote for dismemberment of trump.
<Truga>
this comedy train stopping after just 4 years would be a disaster
<NocnaShada>
seriously this shit is getting ridiculous.
<Truga>
so many jobs lost
<Truga>
in comedy anyway
<TheKosmonaut>
You know why? Because like it or not, he's a fucking media guru.. he is so erratic, so insane, so poorly spoken and so full of controversy that the stupid ass media cannot focus on one thing at a time
<Truga>
the rest of the economy will crash but alas
<NocnaShada>
TheKosmonaut: i agree. he's geting reelected.
<Truga>
i don't care
<Truga>
not my economy.txt
<Truga>
:D
<TheKosmonaut>
He's like a savant
<xShadowx|2>
rich white guy - yp he'l be re elected
<TheKosmonaut>
xShadowx|2: GHB
<Rokker>
Truga: are you a German or genetically inferior?
<Truga>
i'm blonde with blue eyes if that's what you mean
<Truga>
i'm not joking.
<Rokker>
hmmm
<Rokker>
Truga: I'm legitimately asking if ur German or where ur from reallt
<Truga>
i'm a bit further south
<Rokker>
we austrian
<Rokker>
ew
<Truga>
nah
<Rokker>
italian
<Truga>
nope
<Rokker>
swiss
<Truga>
nnnope
<Rokker>
fuck toi
<Rokker>
you
<TheKosmonaut>
Hungarian
<Truga>
not that either lol
<Truga>
holy shit i'd move out of hungary on the triple anyway
<Truga>
jesus christ those guys
<Rokker>
french?
<Truga>
now that's not very south of germany is it
<Rokker>
...
<Rokker>
have you ever seen a map of europe
<Truga>
uh yes
<Truga>
i live here
<Truga>
france is east of germany
<Rokker>
southeast
<Truga>
ok sure
<TheKosmonaut>
Truga: Eh, you're not polish are you? Not South but UDBA seems polish
<Truga>
no not polish either
<Rokker>
benelux is east of Germany you tard
<Truga>
i'd escape from poland even faster
<Truga>
that place turned into a religious cult
<Rokker>
Truga: malta
<Truga>
nope
<Rokker>
tunisia
<Truga>
nope
<Rokker>
south africa
<Truga>
no
<TheKosmonaut>
Norway
<Truga>
lol
<TheKosmonaut>
Tibet
<Truga>
are you just throwing darts at a map now
<NocnaShada>
madagascar?
<Rokker>
I don't think truga knows how maps work
<TheKosmonaut>
Truga: I just keep going south till I come back around
<Truga>
ah
<Truga>
well
<NocnaShada>
use doughnut maps.
<NocnaShada>
i meant non-doughnut, but my point stands.
<Rokker>
Truga: we have named every country on the southern border of germany
<Truga>
ah but mine doesn't border germany
<NocnaShada>
he never said bordering germany.
<NocnaShada>
so try with all african countries
<NocnaShada>
oh wait!
<NocnaShada>
greece?
<Truga>
getting closer? :D
<NocnaShada>
no wait
<NocnaShada>
greece doesn't exist anymore.
<Truga>
wait is greece closer?
<Greys>
morocco?
<Truga>
oh yeah
<Truga>
right
<NocnaShada>
holy roman empire these days.
<Truga>
greece is now owned by DB
<Greys>
what's the question?
<NocnaShada>
where is Truga from
<Truga>
south of germany but not austria
<NocnaShada>
hint: south of germany
<Rokker>
macedonia
<Truga>
no, getting warmer lol
<Rokker>
slovenia
<Truga>
uh huh
<Greys>
westphalia?
<Rokker>
kill yourself slovenian
<Truga>
hahaha
<NocnaShada>
interesting
<Truga>
don't worry, while the life here is pretty good I'm going out
<NocnaShada>
my maps don't have slovenia on them
<Truga>
I have family to take care of first but then i'm goooooone
<Truga>
fuck this shithole
<NocnaShada>
moving to usa?
<Truga>
yikes
<Truga>
no
<Truga>
not nearly enough nazis in usa
<NocnaShada>
oh, mongolia then
<Truga>
i'm moving to siberia
<NocnaShada>
no wait vietnam
<NocnaShada>
:D
<NocnaShada>
vietnam has nazis
<Truga>
vietnam has commies tho
<Truga>
might shoot the wrong person!
<Truga>
don't want to kill friendlies
<Greys>
say german peoples, if we nuke north korea, would it be alright if we nuke lippstadd too? I think my exdad might be there
<NocnaShada>
you're doing them all a favour
<NocnaShada>
better dead than red.
<Truga>
i don't think you understand commie development
<NocnaShada>
Rokker: what's with slovenia hate tho
<Rokker>
>calls America a young country
<Rokker>
>from slovenia
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<Truga>
hey i didn't say slovenia was good
<NocnaShada>
well he's not wrong.
<Truga>
it's a shithole
<NocnaShada>
but as far as shitholes go, better than usa?
<NocnaShada>
:P
<Truga>
yeah
<Truga>
easily
<Truga>
at least we killed most of our nazis after ww2
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: honestly America isn't that young
<NocnaShada>
well, that really depends on your definition of young, doesn't it.
<Truga>
i mean, you kinda can't count the natives
<Truga>
since you killed them alll
<NocnaShada>
yeah.
<Rokker>
NocnaShada: older than germany
<GlassYuri>
so eh, in case someone missed me, I'm back
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: I had realized if you just develop the shit out of a single province that you can just have institutions spread into that province specifically
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: duh?
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: I always thought you were just SOL if you were not eurocuckean
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: it depends on the institution
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: I have colonialism too
<TheKosmonaut>
Working on Printing Press but that shit is getting expensive
<Rokker>
TheKosmonaut: developement affects the speed of institution spread for every province and institution
<Rokker>
but only some institutions spread bsed on dev level
<Greys>
it's a damn good thing this manga is cute, because it's not interesting for the first thirty five pages
<Greys>
and then they reveal that the twins can quantum teleport between eachother
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<Sarbian>
hum. I can live with this chan beeing a KPop/Anime/Whatever dump but keep the politic away from here
<Sarbian>
Because even if I know perfectly what side I am on I will just remove everyone from the chan.
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<Greys>
Sarbian, this channel is on a course for self immolation
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<Rokker>
Sarbian: what about political shitposting
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<ChanServ>
Sarbian set flags -AOeiortv on sarbian.
<ChanServ>
egg (eggrobin) set flags -AOeiortv on eggrobin.
<Greys>
it's the rapture
<TheKosmonaut>
When a channel is so trash that ops leave
<Rokker>
r4m0n: dude
<Rokker>
r4m0n: seriously
<Rokker>
r4m0n: please
<Greys>
yea well don't pretend none of this was your fault too
<Rokker>
r4m0n: there is no reason for this channel to still be activre
<r4m0n>
stop right there, they left because of you this time
<Rokker>
r4m0n: please just mute the channel
<Rokker>
just kill it
<Rokker>
its time we all move on
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: the end is nigh
<Rokker>
r4m0n: do you have me on ignore or are u just refusing to respond to me
<r4m0n>
oh, I see you
<TheKosmonaut>
Rokker: he sees all
<Rokker>
<3
<r4m0n>
stop stirring shit, or I'll have to take action
<Rokker>
me?
<r4m0n>
yes, you
<Rokker>
greys cant even see me
<Rokker>
im not stirring jack shit
<Rokker>
just put this channel out of its misery
<Rokker>
its all loli anime and dumb shit
<Rokker>
and people still get redirected here
<Rokker>
thinking its a modding channel
<r4m0n>
yes, and you're still here for what then?
<Rokker>
r4m0n: to watch the shitshow
<xShadowx>
to be fair, i'm accually surprised esper hasnt shut down the channel, due to its roughly monthly ish pedo chats
<TheKosmonaut>
^
<Rokker>
^
<Rokker>
do the right thing man
* xShadowx
is still here for noobs that wrongfully join here instead of the accual modding chan
<Rokker>
^
<Rokker>
that too
<xShadowx>
^ rokker bsing :)
<xShadowx>
you come for the shitshow, i come for noble reasons
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<Greys>
I'm still not sure why he became convinced that I was winded when spending four hours at walmart gave me a migraine
<r4m0n>
watching the shitshow is why I'm here, just don't stir it up :-P
<Rokker>
r4m0n: i didnt
<Rokker>
r4m0n: i simply mentioned my voting preference and was called a nazi right off the bat
<Rokker>
so then i embraced the shitlord
<Rokker>
i became the shitlord
<Rokker>
i became the nazi
<Rokker>
because boredom
<r4m0n>
I'm not entirely opposed to that. others were, so we have a couple less mods
<r4m0n>
which I'm not opposed to either
<Rokker>
if they have a problem with the jokes i make they can come to me
<Rokker>
or the people i vote for
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<Rokker>
i know my political opinion is in the minority in this community
<Rokker>
and not well liked
<Rokker>
but im opened to listening to other opinions and changing my conduct if they like
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<r4m0n>
then stop trying to burn down the house where you can still speak your mind :-P
<Rokker>
oh i have plenty of channels to speak my mind in
<Rokker>
this one is by far the worst of them tho
<Hyratel>
just ban him and be done with it
<Rokker>
well thats a terrible mindset to have
<Hyratel>
fuck off rokker
<Rokker>
what have i done in this channel lately that is banworth of a channel with no rules
<Rokker>
Hyratel: why
<Hyratel>
fuck off outta my screen
<Greys>
and people keep petitioning me to stop ignoring rokker why....
<r4m0n>
trying to shut down the channel would be a good argument for a ban even here
<Greys>
;wa 16 gauge sheet steel to mm
<kmath>
Greys: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish
<Rokker>
I think it is better for the purpose of redirecting people with actual modding requests and needs for modding advice to destroy this channel, but if you wanna keep it a shitshow, then by all means leave it up
<r4m0n>
action isn't being taken against anyone right now
<Rokker>
but you would need ops
<Rokker>
r4m0n: why am i being warned
<RandomJeb>
I came here because I heard it was KSPO without the PG-13 rules >_>
<xShadowx>
r4m0n: hiding wont block new randoms who come due to advertising / links, passwording the chan for the current cesspool seems like a good way to go, but then giving everyone the pass would be a nightmare for you ;p any whitelist option so ops add names already in chan? idk what other suggestions to help
<r4m0n>
because you've messaged me several times, and keep asking for the channel to be shut down
<Rokker>
r4m0n: because the pedo shit is something i dont want this community associated with
<Greys>
is KSPO official or one of the realism mods?
<r4m0n>
the channel is going to be shut down when everyone quits it, or the network bans us
<RandomJeb>
official
<Greys>
I've never been there and they can fuck right off
<Rokker>
she doesnt even know anything about the community
<Rokker>
look at her
<r4m0n>
AFAIK pedo content was never posted here, and if any is ever posted, that's base for a permanent ban
<Rokker>
loli is close enough
<r4m0n>
no it isn't
<Rokker>
imo
<r4m0n>
dully noted, but the legal basis isn't there
* xShadowx
nudges r4m0n
<Rokker>
coming to a ksp channel for no reason other than to post loli shit when she already has an alternative channel with the one other person she talks about it with is absurd
<xShadowx>
mainly Greys and SilverFox every 1-2 months talking about selling / fucking underaged people
<xShadowx>
3 months ago ish was SF talking about selling his underaged sis to greys to fuck
<r4m0n>
yes, because they have full intentions of actually doing it, right?
<Rokker>
r4m0n: and you deopped someone for banning a person that put them on ignore. in a number channels ive ever been in, ignoring a mod is kickable and bannable
<Rokker>
op*
<r4m0n>
here isn't most channels
<Greys>
Hyratel, if I asked for a common cheap size of shafting less than half an inch, what would you think of first?
<Rokker>
simply because it makes it impossible for them to follow the rules
<Rokker>
Hyratel: why do you hate me
<Rokker>
we got along just fine in the past, iirc
<Hyratel>
'less than 1/2 inch' is too vague
<xShadowx>
r4m0n: intent or not, it was drawn out for over an hour, i have no dout esper wouldve stepped in if reported -.- it was rather bad
<Greys>
I don't have specific needs, so anything with a diameter under half an inch, in either system, is fine
<Hyratel>
that
<Rokker>
Hyratel: you have me on ignore, dont you
<Hyratel>
you buy shaft for a particular purpose
<Hyratel>
or you buy a variety of common sizes that you know you need on a regular basis
<Greys>
I'm going to mount some wheels, they haven't been picked out
<Rokker>
rip
<Hyratel>
there is no such thing as 'common cheap size'
<Hyratel>
then find out what size shaft your wheels take first
<Greys>
really? there's no size that's more generally available, or at a lower cost due to economy?
<Hyratel>
to do othewise is disengenuous
<Greys>
why can't everything be like scateboard bearings
<Hyratel>
do you have a lathe?
<Hyratel>
because skateboard wheels are standard-by-consensus
<Greys>
right but skateboard bearings are more common and cheaper because of their commonality
<Hyratel>
you're ignorigng what I'm trying to tell you
<Hyratel>
you buy the size of shaft you need for the job
<xShadowx>
Rokker: to be fair i think most of chan has you on ignore :P
<Hyratel>
to do otherwise is wasting your own storage space
<Rokker>
half of the active people
<Rokker>
probably
<xShadowx>
^
<Hyratel>
unless you need a variety of shaft size on-hand for rapid-order jobs
<Greys>
then I'm just gonna write in "five" for now
<xShadowx>
i got half on ignore too, so i can see accual noobs who come for help without the spam of anime and pedo chats
<Hyratel>
you have too many hypotheticals in the question to give an answer
<Rokker>
xShadowx: i dont ignore anyone
<Rokker>
hiding from peoples opinions are a terrible way to go about things
<xShadowx>
r4m0n: would it be possible to just move eveyone to a diff chan? the name is what misleads the most, and a simple chan topic can redirect cesspool fans to the new chan :)
<Rokker>
^
<r4m0n>
I'm not opposed to moving somewhere else, what do everyone else thinks about it?
<Rokker>
r4m0n: aye
<Greys>
what's the argument?
<Rokker>
surprise surprise
<r4m0n>
we hardly talk about KSP anymore and frighten little kids
<Rokker>
the person who ignores 2/3rds of the channel doesnt know whats going on in the channel
<xShadowx>
Rokker: now now behave and let the preschoolers discuss
<Greys>
how many people do you think actually exist to move with us
<r4m0n>
I'm guessing 90% of the channel only peeks here once a month
<Greys>
jynx
<Rokker>
r4m0n: well they will slowly move over as they notice the topuic
<Rokker>
topic
<r4m0n>
who's running th bots right now?
<r4m0n>
mainly kmath
<xShadowx>
qboid is thomas
<xShadowx>
fox/majiir run rest
<Greys>
thomas, icefire, silverfox, and... I guess soozee is dead now that majiir just idles as it
<xShadowx>
(not kmath)
<xShadowx>
icefire is active enough to move it, but you could suggest icefire just add a ;join command to make life simpler on himself :P
<kmath>
YouTube - Hands-On with Valve's SteamVR "Knuckles" Controllers!
<FoxBot9000>
yt: Hands-On with Valve's SteamVR "Knuckles" Controllers! | Tested
<xShadowx>
yay bot spam
<xShadowx>
kmath is faster than shitbot :D
<Rokker>
r4m0n: so something in the topic like "Go to #KSPModding for modding advice, go to #Shitshow for the shitshow"
<Rokker>
and then just mute this one and people will migrate as they see fit
<Rokker>
everyone wins
<r4m0n>
I'm surprised #shitshow isn't taken
<Greys>
I bet it has been
<xShadowx>
seriously?
<xShadowx>
lmao
<r4m0n>
anyone opposed to living on #shitshow? XD
<Rokker>
r4m0n: nay
<Greys>
I'm recovering from a migraine and also it's 1am for me
<Greys>
and I'm doing math which is never good
<r4m0n>
no hurry I guess
<r4m0n>
guess I could make a poll somewhere about moving and then to where
<Greys>
well, tradition mandates that first the topic be changed uselessly a few times
<r4m0n>
of course
<RandomJeb>
so are we moving to #shitshow?
<r4m0n>
we may
<r4m0n>
feel free to join #shitshow anyway
<RandomJeb>
done
<r4m0n>
if we don't move, we can at least multiply
<xShadowx>
uh oh.......
<RandomJeb>
yes
<RandomJeb>
spread the cancer
<xShadowx>
Rokker: i blame you for this
<Rokker>
good, im happy
<Rokker>
r4m0n: i think most of us could agree on the move
<Rokker>
SilverFox: what do you think
<Greys>
ok, important distinction
<Rokker>
no
<Rokker>
its not
<Greys>
#shitshow or #shitshow?
<r4m0n>
anyone knows a good poll site that isn't 95% ads?
<Rokker>
called it
<Rokker>
r4m0n: twitter
<Greys>
strawpoll is solid, but it's hard to avoid 95% ads on a site that contains so little
<RandomJeb>
I think google docs lets you set up a poll
<Rokker>
yeah
<Rokker>
jewgold docs
<Greys>
ambiguity is a problem with google related stuff
<Rokker>
r4m0n: just ask greys if shes ok with moveing to shitshow
<Rokker>
shes the most active user here anyways
r4m0n changed the topic of #kspmodders to: #kpmodders Should we move to a non-KSP named channel? http://www.strawpoll.me/13734886
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<Rokker>
r4m0n: seems fairly conclusive atm, thats about the size of the active user base
<r4m0n>
I'll wait a full day for other people to see. and stop spreading among non-channel personel :-P
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<Stratochief__>
O/
<Rokker>
r4m0n: im not, i spread it to kosmo only
<Rokker>
Stratochief__: we are crashing the channel with no survivors
<Stratochief__>
That sounds like us
<Rokker>
vote
<Rokker>
r4m0n: since kosmo is an active user despite the rage wuits
<Rokker>
quits
<r4m0n>
he's fine
* Rokker
whistles
<Greys>
darklight, so here's the mockup of the cylinder printer's mount and Y axis mechanism; the X axis will probably end up on a subframe but I'm not yet sure how to make it length arbitrary without being wasteful and I should go to bed
<Greys>
the top gold wheels are a little wrong because they don't currently have any engagement for the gearing; or gearing, which will need moer X offset between them, but there's a lot of unfinished parts
<Rokker>
Truga: wait
<Rokker>
Truga: is it called slovenia because of slavs?
<Truga>
uh
<Truga>
sure why not
<Rokker>
Truga: how well can you squat
<Truga>
not really
<Rokker>
0/10 shit tier slav
<Rokker>
Truga: u bring shame upon your squatting ancestors
<Truga>
lol if you think i give a shit about my shitty ancestors
<Rokker>
Truga: I dont
<Rokker>
Truga: who has time to give a shit about non-recent, non-important ancestors
<Rokker>
I only care about my cool ones
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<darklight>
Wouldn't crashing this channel with no survivors be extremely painful?
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<strato>
Boop
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<SilverFox>
what the fuck happened while I was sleeping
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<SilverFox>
so I'm reading through scrollback, which you guys fucking FILLED, I have like, 1000-10000 lines of scrollback buffer, and you fuckers filled it
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<SilverFox>
currently im at the part where some rando just joined, and then got assimilated into the hate horde
<SilverFox>
now yall just naming countroes
<SilverFox>
sarbian and egg just deopped, probably left also
<SilverFox>
and done
<SilverFox>
ill add my bot to shitshow
<r4m0n>
the move isn't fully confirmed, though it looks likely
<r4m0n>
#shitshow is probably going to stick around anyway
<SilverFox>
the vote is 70% and major portion of us that are active, voted
<SilverFox>
the win is confirmed
<r4m0n>
also, where to move to wasn't quite decided. though again, most active people have joined the shitshow anyway XD
<xShadowx>
75%move
<xShadowx>
so ya id say likely too
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<SilverFox>
my bot will be in the shitshow soon
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<Rokker>
r4m0n: i demand a recount
<Rokker>
r4m0n: too many undocumented immigrants voted
<r4m0n>
I don't doubt that at all XD
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<SilverFox>
oh wait, I forgot to vote for my parents