r4m0n changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Technical discussion ONLY (KSP related or not), for random shit-talking, join #shitshow (seriously)
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<SilverFox> >requires 8+ years of experience in Swift
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<SilverFox> "First appeared June 2, 2014; 3 years ago[1]"
<TheKosmonaut> SilverFox: if they ask for that, they’re not asking for an entry level person but want to pay entry level prices.
<SilverFox> probably a senior position, which requires 8+ years experience, but management didnt know that swift didnt exist 8 years ago
<TheKosmonaut> SilverFox: that’s usually the case.
<TheKosmonaut> You just tell them you want more money than they offer
<SilverFox> but it's still fucking hilarious
<TheKosmonaut> SilverFox: I just got back to the hospital
<SilverFox> oh right, is everything going smoothly?
<TheKosmonaut> SilverFox: yeh
<SilverFox> has the fetus escaped yet?
<TheKosmonaut> In about 40 minutes I suppose
<SilverFox> fair enough
<SilverFox> how cute
<SilverFox> pediatrics and OBGYN always makes me smile
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<G-Mobile> How many switches/buttons can a pi0 support unaided
<SilverFox> unaided in what way?
<SilverFox> like, using any gpio pin that can be triggered?
<SilverFox> there's 40 pins, some are ground pins, so idk if you can trigger those high
<SilverFox> there is a gpio diagram online somewhere, taht should label the pins and give ye a good clue
<SilverFox> https://pinout.xyz/ ?
<SilverFox> it has the pinout on the left
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<G-Mobile> What do you mean in what way
<G-Mobile> In the way
<G-Mobile> Just solder a bunch of switches to pins
<G-Mobile> No multiplexing, daughterboards, I2C, IC2, ICHOT, etc
<SilverFox> in the way that some pins you probs couldnt trigger via the pi, so it would be kinda useless to put a switch there
<G-Mobile> Duh
<G-Mobile> So how many switches /would/ work
<SilverFox> check the diagram, look for the BCM ones
<SilverFox> those are all addressable by the pi
<G-Mobile> mmkay that's plenty
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<SilverFox> if you have 80m of patch cat cable, and then a switch, and then another 80m, is that equivalent to 160m in terms of signal loss, or does it get renewed, fully, at the switch? I'm thinking it does, but maybe there's some like, loss or something I dont know about
<G-Mobile> fully
<SilverFox> alright sick
<G-Mobile> the digital signal is converted to analog voltages when leaving every interface
<SilverFox> so it's analog along the uhhh cat cable?
<G-Mobile> all voltage is analog
<SilverFox> ...is this some semantic bullshit
<G-Mobile> as far as the shape of the data in volts, it probably has a lot of squares
<G-Mobile> fundimentally ethernet operates on the same premise as I2C, and that's much simpler to look at
<SilverFox> okay i'm gone now
<G-Mobile> this is the best scope readout I could find http://www.circuitwizard.de/raspi-i2c-fix/i2c.png
<G-Mobile> this falls under semantics but i2c does not appear to return to zero, it alternates between two positive voltages
<G-Mobile> actually three because it uses 2 separate waveforms that are scalled differently
<G-Mobile> no wait, uh
<G-Mobile> three or four, I can't fuckin tell
<G-Mobile> all these fancy modernass oscilinators let you just move shit around and scale it whatever you want
<G-Mobile> ethernet uses more conductors, and could have a vastly different protocol, but this is fundimentally what's happening on the wires
<G-Mobile> just based on arbitrary google image results I'm lead to believe that ethernet is AC tristate with sustains, although sustains could just be a soft/firmway implimentation change to enhance the performance reliability of hardware
<G-Mobile> firmware*
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<G-Mobile> ;wa distance from the center of jupiter to the center of the sun
<kmath> G-Mobile: Jupiter->distance from Sun: 5.448 au (astronomical units)
<G-Mobile> ;wa diameter of jupiter to AU
<kmath> G-Mobile: convert Jupiter->average diameter to astronomical units: 9.3465×10^-4 au (astronomical units)
<G-Mobile> ;wa diameter of the sun to AU
<kmath> G-Mobile: convert Sun->average diameter to astronomical units: 0.009301 au (astronomical units)
<G-Mobile> gonna round off both of those and ain't give some shits
<G-Mobile> ;c 5.448 * 2 * 1.1
<kmath> G-Mobile: 11.985600000000002
<G-Mobile> ;wa 200Mm to AU
<kmath> G-Mobile: convert 200 Mm (megameters) to astronomical units: 0.001337 au (astronomical units)
<G-Mobile> the APOSIMZ megastructure is too small
<G-Mobile> ;wa 1AU to Mm
<kmath> G-Mobile: convert 1 au (astronomical unit) to megameters: 149598 Mm (megameters)
<G-Mobile> so gigameters
<G-Mobile> ;wa 1 lightyear to gigaAU
<G-Mobile> \
<kmath> G-Mobile: convert 1 ly (light year) to gigafurlongs: 47029 gigafurlongs
<G-Mobile> .... furlongs were a race from startrek
<G-Mobile> stargate
<G-Mobile> starwars
<G-Mobile> darkwing duck
<G-Mobile> ;wa 1 gigafurlong to AU
<kmath> G-Mobile: convert 1 gigafurlong to astronomical units: 1.345 au (astronomical units)
<G-Mobile> I have learned today a greatness of knowledge
<G-Mobile> Beft, is a word
<G-Mobile> beft means to be beffen, like dressed means to wear dress, or tied means to be tied
<G-Mobile> and beffen is a kind of ceremoial wrist cuff
<G-Mobile> or cunnilingus
<G-Mobile> does etymology become not technical if the punchline is cunnilingus?
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<Tank2333> Hi o/
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<SilverFox> yall hype for the eclipse or what
<Hyratel> get hype
<Hyratel> choo choo
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<SilverFox> choo choo motherfucker
<SilverFox> got my phone set to 4k mode so I can take some nice shots of it
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<Greys> we now exist in a postclipse world; the sun siddles to shine on a changed humanity dragged kicking and screaming from the ashes of civilization by an omnilateral threat the likes of which we shouldn't have survived. Tomorrow is another day.
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