<SilverFox>
hrmm, I'd have to take it apart, but I also dont know the protocol it uses for the data
<r4m0n>
it has some LED segment displays, you can just hook there and read the output
<SilverFox>
true
<SilverFox>
however one downfall
<SilverFox>
50m min range
<SilverFox>
sorry, 50ft
<r4m0n>
20ft on this one
<SilverFox>
ah right
<SilverFox>
hrmmmm
<r4m0n>
below that you can use something more precise
<r4m0n>
this looks old as fuck
<SilverFox>
lol 3 systems for measuring altitude
<r4m0n>
it isn't like you need this now anyway
<r4m0n>
take your time, there are better options around
<SilverFox>
yeah
<SilverFox>
but this is at least a lot of something
<SilverFox>
I can use GPS while in the air easily and be fine, it's during descent and landing I need something more precise
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<SilverFox>
I could combine the 3 sensor datums into one display and have a push button to switch modes, be it cm accurate above ground 20m mode, lidar mode, and gps mode
<r4m0n>
if you can afford a few LIDAR's pointing down, you can get a reading on the level too
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<SilverFox>
the level, like how flat it is?
<r4m0n>
yep
<SilverFox>
hrmmm
<SilverFox>
sounds fancy smansy
<r4m0n>
and your inclination
<SilverFox>
a few lidars would cost about the same as the plane lol, and weight is a concern, these look decently heavy for being sensors
<r4m0n>
dusing landing you could do with the 10m units
<SilverFox>
runways are usually pretty flatish
<SilverFox>
the plane shouldn't be *that* sensitive to nonflat surfaces, just be a bit bumpy
<r4m0n>
it may not be level, depending on where it is
<SilverFox>
there are plenty of runways in the world that are inclined
<SilverFox>
just provides a challenge
<SilverFox>
also, I think I might need radio comms
<r4m0n>
which would be very bad for landing if you just go by the plane angle from an accelerometer
<r4m0n>
for UL you might not need, but need to check the rules
<SilverFox>
yeah, also I think UL in canada requires a license or permit
<r4m0n>
3:30 AM, I better go to bed XD
<SilverFox>
yup, Ultralight permit is a thing in canada
<SilverFox>
also needs to have a maximum takeoff weight not exceeding 544kg
<SilverFox>
or 1.2 tonnes
<SilverFox>
so easy peasy
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<SilverFox>
oh wait, an advanced one is one with a prop, so that's for some reason forced to be lighter? at 350kg or 770lbs
<SilverFox>
also I *think* from reading this wiki article that the wing area needs to be minimum 10m^2
<SilverFox>
so if I can design the aircraft to be under 500lbs, that'd be best
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<SilverFox>
I wonder what kind of motor I could use
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<SilverFox>
~c 1000 / 48
<FoxBot9000>
SilverFox, 20.833333333333332
<SilverFox>
eesh
<SilverFox>
21A
<Rokker>
faggggggggggggggg
<Rokker>
SilverFox: do a microflight instead
<SilverFox>
microflight?
<Rokker>
microlight*
<Rokker>
(its the same thing, i just wanted to call you a fag)
<SilverFox>
get out of here with your insults, dont make us ban you again
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<SilverFox>
I wonder what horsepower rating ima need
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<SilverFox>
;wa 1hp to watts
<kmath>
SilverFox: convert 1 hp (horsepower) to watts: 745.7 W (watts)
<SilverFox>
right, 750W
<SilverFox>
I wonder how many I'll need for the aircraft
<Rokker>
SilverFox: depends on stuff and things
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<Greys>
android 8 happened?
<SilverFox>
did it?
<Greys>
mkbhd said so
<SilverFox>
I wonder if I can upgrade the os on my samsung s4
<SilverFox>
I want the new emojis
<Greys>
sparently it's being sent to pixels
<SilverFox>
do you think I'd get the new emojis if I upgraded my os?
<SilverFox>
I think I'm on android 5.1
<Greys>
I don't know anything about emoji
<Greys>
public release august 21st
<Greys>
I'd guess the S4 can't run it, performance wise, but that's a popular enough phone, if you root all the things you can probably get 7 now and 8 may become available later
<SilverFox>
I just want my phone to stop being a little bitch and displaying boxes
<Greys>
boxes?
<SilverFox>
so really it'd be great to just install a font
<SilverFox>
yeah
<SilverFox>
rectangles, it's like an error char
<Greys>
an
<Greys>
ah
<SilverFox>
when you cant display a char, you have to display something
<SilverFox>
so it's just a box
<Greys>
let me just forwarn you, android gets bigger faster than it gets more efficient, because phones have gotten more powerful too fast
<Greys>
like, if you only have 8gb of internal memory, doing this will suck
<SilverFox>
8GB of ram is a lot for a phone
<Greys>
no, internal memory
<Greys>
you've probably got like 1gb of ram
<SilverFox>
storage?
<SilverFox>
memory is ram
<Greys>
phones don't agree to your preconceptions
<SilverFox>
I dont give a shit
<SilverFox>
doesn't mean we need to subsribe to their bullshit
<Greys>
yea sure
<Greys>
if you want to run nougat, you really need 16GB internal storage minimum; ideally 32
<SilverFox>
I think I have 16GB
<SilverFox>
probably not though
<Greys>
it's easy to check, settings -> storage
<SilverFox>
16
<SilverFox>
but i'm at the very last bit of it
<SilverFox>
6.2GB of it is taken up by the system
<Greys>
currently
<SilverFox>
no stfu
<SilverFox>
7.8GB is currently being used
<Greys>
you can expect closer to 10gb if you go to nougat
<SilverFox>
and 1.07GB misc files
<SilverFox>
however, even though I have 653MB available space, if I download any app it'll ask me to make space for it, even if it's 50MB
<Greys>
now, good news; roms normally have less integrated untouchable bullshit on them, so a higher percentage of the larger space will be android
<SilverFox>
which is bullshit, so I just end up deleting cache data
<Greys>
fun fact, android partitions out the internal space, so you have so much space, but then only so much of it is allocated to /data, what you're seeing when that happens is the data partition has gotten too full, but there's still free space in the /system partition
<SilverFox>
if that's true, that's terrible programming. I dont care abou how much space the system has to work with, that's for the system to deal with
<Greys>
it's for security
<Greys>
each partition is mounted differently to ensure only the right stuff can write to them
<SilverFox>
yeah that's all great and shit
<Greys>
for example /system is mounted as read only
<SilverFox>
but dont tell me I have 600MB of space available when I cant fucking write to it
<Greys>
yep
<Greys>
so you gonna nougat?
<SilverFox>
probably not
<SilverFox>
I dont have the free space for it
<Greys>
how much would you have left if you uninstalled every app you can?
<SilverFox>
and idk if its guaranteed I'll get them new emojies
<Greys>
android 7 supports adopted partitions; you might not get that but if you did then you could take a big honkin' SD card and mount it as an extension of /data
<Greys>
and then your phone would believe that it has more internal storage
<SilverFox>
now here's the thing
<SilverFox>
when I "move" an app over to SD card, it now takes up, about 70% of its space, on both the sd and internal storage
<SilverFox>
it's pretty bullshit
<Greys>
right but this is nothing like that
<Greys>
this is literally mounting the SD as an extension to data
<Greys>
data gets bigger
<SilverFox>
right but like, irrelevant o what i'm saying
<SilverFox>
im just kinda bitchin simultaneously
<Greys>
because what you're saying is irrelevant
<SilverFox>
anyways, idk what it'd be like if I deleted all the apps "I can"
<SilverFox>
I use a good chunk of apps regularly
<SilverFox>
most of them are large apps, so uninstalling the small ones that I dont use wont make much a difference
<Greys>
how much does settings -> storage say you have for apps on the device
<SilverFox>
especially when there's so little of them
<SilverFox>
5.51GB
<Greys>
mmkay, you might not be bumfucked
<SilverFox>
okay yeah a lot of small proprietary apps
<Greys>
have you rooted?
<SilverFox>
naw dont think so
<SilverFox>
I did once but idk if I turned that off or not
<Greys>
do you have an aftermarket recovery installed?
<SilverFox>
idk probably not
<Greys>
turn your phone off, then hold power and volume down
<SilverFox>
downloading the entire appstore onto my phone brb
<Greys>
so's basically, if you have a recovery like TWRP, it has a file browser, you can mount /system and delete shit willy nilly, like say if android won't let you delete some stupid fucking app from samsung or your carrier that's taking up half a gig; you can delete that
<Greys>
and it'll just be gone.
<Greys>
also, hypothetically, if you hade updates to system apps, they install as user apps, and using this recovery file browser you can integrate the update into /system, so it's not taking up space in /data
<SilverFox>
also, my wifi just casually disconnected
<Greys>
I recommend using the app DiskUsage to check in /data/apps, /system/apps, and /system/priv-apps to see what's taking up the most wasted space and burn it to the ground like a field of sugar cane
<SilverFox>
fun times
<Greys>
DiskUsage is basically WinDirStat for android
<SilverFox>
the apps I use most often are the biggest ones
<Greys>
that's actually good
<SilverFox>
it means I have to delete a fuckton small one
<Greys>
the intended feature of this app is that you can make a second partition on your SD card and it can mount that similarly to an adoption, and move apps there more effectively, because the standard fat32 doesn't have file permissions a bunch of shit has to live on the phone still for security reasons
<Greys>
this feature doesn't work on my phone
<Greys>
anyway, if you can use the second partition feature, it lets you move lots of stuff off the device using simlinks
<Greys>
like, you could move the entire dalvik cache to the SD card
<Greys>
I'm dying slowly
<Greys>
the AC didn't run while I was asleep so my bedroom got all the oxygen breathed out of it and now I'm recovering from CO2 poisoning
<SilverFox>
my SD card is only 4GB
<SilverFox>
and it has about 1.7GB free
<Greys>
I just bought a 32GB for 10$
<SilverFox>
welp, that was fun
<Greys>
I could have bought a 128 for 40 but I literally cannot justify having that much space
<SilverFox>
I cant clean the delvik cache without root
<Greys>
hmmm
<Greys>
if you have TWRP there might be a button for that, but it's going to wipe the cache not clean; the difference being link2sd gets rid of stuff that's not associated with apps anymore, so your phone will be slower as it rebuilds the cache
<SilverFox>
i dont have twrp
<Greys>
sucks to be you
<Greys>
I assume you're not up for this and haven't made a todo function yet, so to get TWRP first you need to root the phone, but once you have TWRP you can install whatever rom you want
<SilverFox>
havent made todo function because you just bitched about it when I pitched the idea
<SilverFox>
if I can root the phone, why would I need twrp?
<Greys>
if you could install linux on your desktop, would you need a soldering iron?
<SilverFox>
what the fuck cryptic bullshit are you spewing
<Greys>
TWRP and having root are extremely different things
<Greys>
like, TWRP lets you do nandroid backups, and revert to them
<SilverFox>
in order to clear the devrik cache I need to have root
<Greys>
TWRP lets you install whatever you want
<SilverFox>
if I have root I can just clear the cache, twrp not needed
<Greys>
TWRP lets you bypass write permissions arbitrarily
<Greys>
root lets you interact with the OS at a higher authority level
<SilverFox>
I know what root is
<Greys>
root on android is not the same as root on linux, because android is designed to depower root, and retaliate against certain behaviors
<SilverFox>
so i cant sudo rm -rf */ on android?
<Greys>
trying to uninstall a system app via root might cause your device to hard reboot
<Greys>
hell, just trying to install busybox so you could even make use of the majority of root-only apps might cause your device to hard reboot
<Greys>
and worse, every different way to hard reboot has a chance of triggering a retaliatory backdate
<Greys>
aka, the phone might notice you did shit, and reinstall all the apps it's supposed to have
<SilverFox>
Greys, design me some icepacks for my feet
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<Greys>
SilverFox, I don't really have much experience with fabrics
<SilverFox>
wtf is the mp5 format
<Supernovy>
it's filmed in 9mm
<SilverFox>
sick
<G-Mobile>
Thats a common misconception, actually its filmed in 9D
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<Greys>
where's a not stupid expensive place to buy gears
<Greys>
mcmastercar and amazon are 5~30$ per, and ebay seems to mostly sell random sets
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<Greys>
I need a repeat positioning solution for my 2D cylinder printer, I can't assume that the ends of anything that might be put in here will be square, so the bump stop I've modelled up may actually induce oscillation via camming
<Greys>
also I'd definitely need to reposition it, being aligned with the main axles like that would limit it to parts up to 96mm in diameter, which is just too small
<Greys>
if I relocate it to bridge at the bottom of the main bracket it'll support up to 200mm, which is pretty good
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<Greys>
170mm would form an equilateral triangle of support with the rollers, which should be the limit of primary stability; 200mm shouldn't be a problem though