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<Greys>
Majiir, I'm not getting filezilla to connect to sftp, they talk, filezilla gets the key, and then nothing happens for a bit and it times out; any idea?
<Majiir>
Dunno
<Majiir>
Normally SFTP either 'works' and the listing is empty which means permissions, or it doesn't work because firewall but that would cause the whole connection to fail
<Greys>
do I need to enable sftp or is it just an ssh thing nowdays?
<SilverFox>
apparently I dont have at least an 8gb flash drive
<SilverFox>
the store is across the street from me
<Greys>
find a tech company and pretend to be a customer
<SilverFox>
like almost literally
<Majiir>
Steal from a tech-savvy but vulnerable grandma
<SilverFox>
that's illegal
<SilverFox>
to both of those probably
<Greys>
nah nah, tech companies use flash drives as business cards
<Greys>
all of them
<SilverFox>
ohh
<SilverFox>
yeah but they probs are those cheapo 2 or 4gb
<Majiir>
Can confirm
<SilverFox>
I need at least 8gb so I can fresh install win8.1
<Greys>
it's actually more expensive to make 4gb flash drives now
<Majiir>
I got all-new corporate swag since the acquisition
<Majiir>
and the flash drives were 1.3GB
<SilverFox>
EW
<SilverFox>
that should be illegal
<Greys>
it's like skateboard wheel bearings, because of bulk economy, you can obtain the most common cheaper than smaller formats
<xShadowx|2>
flash drives? 1.3gb? they exist that small?
<Majiir>
Apparently. It took several to transfer the Star Wars prequels to our junior engineer
<SilverFox>
fucking best use of company equipment
<Greys>
ok, did dunit
<Greys>
the trick: #1, don't use a portable copy of filezilla from 2009
<Greys>
#2, for some reason it takes more than 20 seconds for my server to connect, so I had to increase the timeout from default
<SilverFox>
wut the fuck you were using an 8 year old program wtf
<Greys>
cuz I had it
<SilverFox>
holy shit
<Greys>
I don't need to FTP every single decade
<Greys>
and I used to run a physically local server, so I could secure via the router
<SilverFox>
I ftp everytime I update foxbot
<Greys>
oh right, I need a domain
<Greys>
fuckin domains
<SilverFox>
lemme know who you go with and why and stuff, I've also been looking for domain stuffs
<Greys>
hover.
<SilverFox>
hover?
<Greys>
hover.
<SilverFox>
why
<Greys>
podcasts
<SilverFox>
oh right
<Greys>
my linode is having crazy pings, and I think that's probably my iptable thing
<Greys>
yaaaaay
<SilverFox>
is it working now?
<Greys>
do you consider timeout after 30545ms to be working?
<SilverFox>
holy fuck
<Greys>
yea that's iptables
<SilverFox>
so fix it
<Greys>
yep
<Greys>
but for now I turned it off so I can install shit
<Greys>
so's, I can't ask you, cuz you're dumb, and I can't ask dark because he's terrible
<SilverFox>
fuck you too
<Greys>
somebody who isn't darkfox tell me a good base iptables setup where I can just add allows for what I use and it won't get internet raped
<SilverFox>
you can ask majiir, but I have a feeling he's gon go snoozeers any moment
<Greys>
majiir, activate contingency gamma
<Majiir>
watwatwat
<SilverFox>
oh shit he's active
<Greys>
not really
<Greys>
clearly he just grampa napped
<SilverFox>
clearly we just interrupted him mid-fap
<Greys>
nah, grampa nap
<SilverFox>
all that bae suzi
<Greys>
real koreaboos don't treat kpopstresses as sex objects, they just watch respectfully
<SilverFox>
that's a bit ummm
<SilverFox>
hopeful
<Greys>
hope and descrimination are the core of true scottsmen arguments
<Majiir>
Greys, you want a reject/deny all for anything that doesn't match
<Majiir>
and you want an allow for established/related traffic
<Majiir>
this way when you make an outgoing connection, any replies to it will be allowed back
<Majiir>
and re the No True Koreaboo
<Majiir>
I generally agree with Greys
<Majiir>
having met a lot of kpop fans
<Greys>
noooo! don't agree with my strawman!
<SilverFox>
kek
<SilverFox>
I've also met a lot of kpop fans
<SilverFox>
but then again, kpopfap also exists
<Greys>
in iptables, what's --sport, source port?
<SilverFox>
the sports channels you subscribe to
<Greys>
linux doesn't believe in sports
<Majiir>
source port yeah
<Greys>
should I be concerned with source port in general cases?
<Majiir>
Depends on the protocol
<Majiir>
For most TCP-based protocols, the source port of an incoming connection is going to be random
<Greys>
this server will have ssh, vpn, and irc
<Majiir>
For some protocols it's determined
<Majiir>
e.g. for DNS it should always be port 53 on both source and destination
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<Greys>
if I have it set up to deny by default, do I need to specifically allow source ports, or will all be allowed for ports I open unless specified otherwise
<SilverFox>
isnt ssh like uhhhh port 22?
<Greys>
that's dport
<SilverFox>
and http is like uhhh 80?
<SilverFox>
https is 447?
<Greys>
I'm not running a web server
<SilverFox>
im not trying to help you, since im not trying to help you
<SilverFox>
im just seeing what I can recall
<SilverFox>
hey guys, what about this, instead of .jpg we use .gpj and it's actually a anti-compression algorithm that makes the files larger
<Greys>
sure, but you can't use junk data to do it
<SilverFox>
that makes it a nice challenge
<SilverFox>
but anything more than the original image data is going to be junk data by essence
<SilverFox>
so i'ma assume "junk data" here to mean "inserting random shit"
<Greys>
no, just decompress
<Greys>
take the data, and represent it in the most uncompact way possible
<SilverFox>
isnt that bitmap?
<Greys>
I bet you could decompress bitmap
<SilverFox>
anyways, lets saw a raw image is given
<Greys>
let's say, stor each subpixel as an xml node
<SilverFox>
sweet jesus
<SilverFox>
we'll call these "uncompression algorithms"
<SilverFox>
they dont decompress
<SilverFox>
they uncompress
<Majiir>
You can store metadata
<Majiir>
It's not "junk data" because it's meaningful, and it's not duplicated data because it's an efficient index or somesuch
<Majiir>
There are practically infinite ways to analyze a piece of data and index it
<Greys>
I'm gonna call shinanigans on that
<SilverFox>
you doubt the jiir?
<SilverFox>
HERESY
<Greys>
no, I just don't like that method
<Majiir>
Why?
<Greys>
I could go to sleep right now
<Greys>
but I'm too tired to remember why not
<SilverFox>
sounds like you should sleep then
<Greys>
that's a compelling argument
<SilverFox>
also, is there some unicode char to say that up until that char again is bolded/underlined?
<SilverFox>
when I ctrl U I can start underlining
<SilverFox>
like this
<SilverFox>
but when I backspace it, it takes two backspaces
<Greys>
in what
<SilverFox>
hexchat
<Greys>
probably hexchat's implementation of mirc control characters
<Greys>
car jacks are easy, you can get 2 ton floor jacks for 50$ and they're great
<Greys>
trucks don't weight 2 tons, they weight 3+ tons, and that starts at a hundred
<Greys>
but also floor jacks are harder to carry around if you don't have a trunk and don't want it exposed in your bed
<Greys>
bottle jacks are great for portability and lifting force, you can get a 22 ton bottle jack pretty cheap, but normal bottle jacks lift less than half their minimum height
<Greys>
so I'd need a bottle jack that's more than half as tall as my truck's lifting points
<Greys>
telescopic bottle jacks can approach 3x min height
<Greys>
plus, bottle jacks with their massive overhead, are great for making hydraulic presses
<SilverFox>
my nose just randomly started bleeding
<FoxBot9000>
SilverFox: Stefán Karl Stefánsson (actor): date of birth | Thursday, July 10, 1975 (42 years ago)
<SilverFox>
apparently he's now cancer free
<SilverFox>
but I thought he died
<Greys>
stefan stefansson jr
<SilverFox>
china apparently has an eyewear brand called Helen Keller
<Greys>
sure
<SilverFox>
that's savage as fuck
<SilverFox>
its 3am, i need me some supper
<Greys>
I'm boiling eggs
<Greys>
fuck you paycheck
<SilverFox>
whens it supposed to come in?
<Greys>
it normally lands an hour ago
<Greys>
sometimes it's up to five days early
<Greys>
once it has been tomorrow; looks like twice now
<SilverFox>
what's the big difference between getting paid today and tomorrow?
<SilverFox>
did you get buttfucked by bills?
<Greys>
all I have is eggs, tilapia, and broccoli
<SilverFox>
sounds great
<SilverFox>
do you have enough of it?
<Greys>
also, I can't set up a VPN until I buy a domain (or something, I don't wanna work on it so that's my excuse)
<SilverFox>
but you did it before without a vpn
<SilverFox>
shitty excuse
<SilverFox>
without a domain
<Greys>
the VPN is for hardening not for BNC
<SilverFox>
****
<SilverFox>
hardening?
<Greys>
I'm gonna make it so SSH is only accessible via the VPN
<Greys>
and the VPN uses key pairs
<SilverFox>
time to make me some food, is hunger
<Greys>
also once I get the VPN set up I can set up a tunnel node on my network so I can access my NAS via the VPN or something
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<Greys>
is there any fast food place you can buy something for etherium?
<Greys>
specifically 2$
<SilverFox>
hey Greys guess what just happened
<Greys>
you accidentally a blowjob
<SilverFox>
darn
<SilverFox>
anwyays
<SilverFox>
my microwave failed
<SilverFox>
guess what it's failure mode is
<Greys>
protip: put an unbroken uncooked egg in a tupperware thing, and microwave it on high for three minutes
<Greys>
fastest way to make a microwave kill itself
<SilverFox>
did you just kill your microwave also by doing this?
<Greys>
no, that was like fifteen years ago
<SilverFox>
oh
<SilverFox>
well have some guesses at what the microwave does now
<Greys>
the egg cooks in the shell and creates a lot of steam, which eventually ruptures the presure vessel, then the tuperware focuses the force upwards, deforming the frame of the micrwave and making it jup
<Greys>
jump*
<Greys>
the microwave probably won't actually be broken, but you will probably cause the fuse to shatter
<SilverFox>
have some guesses at what my microwave does now
<Greys>
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmm
<SilverFox>
yes
<SilverFox>
always
<Greys>
even when it's off?
<SilverFox>
unless the door is open
<SilverFox>
and it doesnt cook
<SilverFox>
and you cant start the cooking
<SilverFox>
its in permanent "cook but I cant" mode
<Greys>
remember when adam savage was on myth busters and he build a supermagnetron that somehow refrigerated
<SilverFox>
no
<SilverFox>
but that thing mustve put out hella heat
<Greys>
it was just three magnetrons ripped out and pointed into a cup of water
<Greys>
the water got colder after five minutes
<SilverFox>
and the cup froze?
<Greys>
nah like a degree
<Greys>
probably their ground water was warmer than the ambient air
<SilverFox>
yeah probably
<Greys>
but you'd expect if you point three megatrons at a cup of water for five minutes, a minute in it should be super boiling
<Greys>
how long has it been since my last rant about the value of disposable media?
<Greys>
too long, that's dead now
<Greys>
I don't even carry a flash drive, and I work in a datacenter
<SilverFox>
is that a 3MB disk?
<Greys>
it's 120MB
<Greys>
just short of 100x larger than a floppy disk
<SilverFox>
I put a sign inside the microwave saying "don't close me, I'm fucking retarded"
<Greys>
superdisks were out before the end of the ninties, and they got bigger than this, I think they topped out around a few gigabytes or something, and until maybe 2014 I think they would have been valuable to society
<Greys>
certainly when I was in school six years earlier they would have been great
<Greys>
at my tech school, you could get suspended for plugging a flash drive into a computer, but if you needed to save a file and for some reason couldn't use the network, like you wanted to share the file with somebody or /turn it in for an assignment/ you had to use a floppy disk
egg|zzz|egg is now known as egg|afk|egg
<SilverFox>
why
<Greys>
because schools were shit
<SilverFox>
why
<Greys>
anyway if superdisk had taken off like it should'a we'd have those instead of flashdrives, and about the same storage that you could get in flash drives at the time
<Greys>
I think 2007ish, you could get in the range of like 2gb reasonably
<SilverFox>
reasonably as in cheaply, or as in commonly?
<Greys>
both
<SilverFox>
so cheaply
<Greys>
you know how the whole drive industry is a bunch of sliding scales, they bulk economy one specific size and the rest are less common, less economical
<Greys>
so, four years ago 8gb was the go to size for flash drives, now they're switching from 16gb to 32
<Greys>
same kind of thing with SD cards and etc
<Greys>
and SSDs; HDDs have kind of topped out because the value difference between 2TB and 4TB is tough to sell on the consumer market
<SilverFox>
probably because the process is expensive
<Greys>
2gb were 90% of what existed, and then 4gb was 90% of what was left of the market
<Greys>
4GB was probably 2009~2010, 8GB became the norm around 2013, but 16 has been hard to sell so we've actually seen backpedaling with the rise of 4GB multipacks at parity cost with larger individual volumes
<Greys>
of course a lot of this has been Apple's fault, so with their continuing success in mobile devices the manufacture economy scales have started to beat out consumer valuation, leading to the 32GB transition faster than the 16GB transition
<Greys>
Apple used ipods to massively subsidize growth of flash manufacturing and drive down prices so that iphones would be practical; and that hasn't stopped
<Greys>
if flash pricing had been there when the first ipod came out; it would have been the original iphone, all the other hardware is relatively insignificant by comparison
<Greys>
oh, except for the on screen keyboards
<Greys>
apple was considering aborting the original iphone because they couldn't figure out an on screen keyboard that wasn't miserable to use; so's, they told the entire company "for the next month: everybody works on keyboard prototypes, nothing else", and one guy invented the predictive variable hit target keyboard
<Greys>
in case you aint knew, on iphone when you type, the actual hit target of every key varies based on what the phone thinks you're likely to touch next, so say you type a t, the touch area of the x gets smaller, and a & s get bigger; so the likely keys are easier to touch correctly
<SilverFox>
oh fuck you're still on this
<Greys>
am I?
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<SilverFox>
a chinese knock off of a ac-10 warthog would use a microwave instead of a main gun
<SilverFox>
i wonder when the store across the street opens
<SilverFox>
8am mmboy
<SilverFox>
I'll have to go in about 9 because it's rude to go in at opening
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<SilverFox>
sick, if I sold my old textbooks, a reasonable price would be 350$
<SilverFox>
that's 6 textbooks
<SilverFox>
maybe I could sell them for 400 if I'm lucky
<Greys>
I hearby declare July to be Artificial History Month.
<Greys>
you have most of a year to prepare your best fake news about past events, misrepresented or fabricated
<SilverFox>
that time you sucked off a homeless person's dick and got herpesaids
<Greys>
that's not how history works
<SilverFox>
for tree fiddy and a tuna
<Greys>
you have to use documentary format
<SilverFox>
and half his subway sub
<Greys>
there's no such thing as half a subway sub
<Greys>
they're so vaporous as a food product as to be atomic
<SilverFox>
yeah
<Greys>
I don't know about canada, but detroit has Jimmy Johns
<SilverFox>
"I wrote 1984 as a warning, not a fucking instructions manual" -George Orwell
<Greys>
cancer isn't going to get cured faster with more people, it's not a man power or financial issue
<SilverFox>
Greys, itsajoke.jpg
<SilverFox>
welp, its that time again, my toadd list for my kpop has grown by like, 20 songs, so now I get to spend the next hour updating it
<Greys>
to add?
<SilverFox>
yeah
<SilverFox>
worst part is a group at the top of the list put out about 4 new songs I like, so i have to rewrite my list in the app from the start because the group was at the top of the list
<Greys>
oh hey, weird all is on last week tonight
<Greys>
I think they really wiffed that musical feature
<Greys>
you could barely head the accordian, which was the whole point, and the lyrics were basically a joke for americans when it was supposed to be pointed at nkians
<SilverFox>
also, it says that the retail version is tied to the person, whereas oem is tied to the machine
<SilverFox>
what counts as the machine
<SilverFox>
I put a 1060 in it, is it no longer the machine?
<Greys>
I think windows 7 tracks the motherboard
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<SilverFox>
here's to hoping windows 8 installer recognizes my ssd
<SilverFox>
if it doesnt then holy fuck i wasted 28$
<SilverFox>
i will cry
<SilverFox>
every time
<SilverFox>
27$ sorry
<SilverFox>
alright got the key
<SilverFox>
i hope it doesnt track by motherboard because it'll fuck up when I buy a new mobo
<SilverFox>
getting rid of this 3.5" drive will make my computer faster, quieter, and lighter
<Greys>
let me be clear
<Greys>
it always tracks the motherboard
<Greys>
but I think 7 only tracks the motherboard
<SilverFox>
as if I'm buying a new fucking copy of windows
<SilverFox>
how the fuck do people benchmark things on new mobos without having to reinstall windows everytime?
<Greys>
you don't need to activate windows to benchmark
<SilverFox>
oh yeah, on my old laptop I accidentally retarded a bit and installed pre-windows 8
<SilverFox>
that got fucked because nothing worked cause im retarded
<SilverFox>
so then I reinstalled 7
<SilverFox>
key wouldnt work
<SilverFox>
so I deleted the shit that they use to spam you with activation popups
<SilverFox>
and disabled the services
<SilverFox>
as if a copy of windows costs fucking 130$
<SilverFox>
it can suck a dick if it thinks I'm paying 150$ for a copy of windows
<Greys>
linus has a breakdown of the package value for windows 10, and I'm pretty sure most of the packages are not usefully better than the basic "home" package
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<SilverFox>
I wonder if I can trick windows by like, installing win8, then upgrading to win10 for free
<Greys>
the free period is over
<SilverFox>
oh fuck lol
<SilverFox>
also there's this piece of fucking weird ass metal on the pcie slot plates that was super flimsy and shit
<SilverFox>
had to rip that out to take out the graphics card cause it was caught on it
<RandomJeb>
oh that reminds me I need to uninstall this windows 10 blocker
<SilverFox>
depending on how annoying windows 8 is about being activated, I can do a variety of things
<RandomJeb>
was it gold film to make the connections cleaner?
<RandomJeb>
for the ultimate in signal experience
<SilverFox>
are you talking about the metal i removed?
<SilverFox>
because it was just some shitty aluminium
<kmath>
YouTube - Go the f**k to sleep, read by Samuel L Jackson
<SilverFox>
does aluminium ping you?
<Rokker>
uhhhh no
<RandomJeb>
it's lik the one word americans can be smug about the spelling of
<RandomJeb>
like*
<SilverFox>
then go the fuck to sleep
<Rokker>
RandomJeb: tyre
<SilverFox>
darklight says tyre and it's fucking gross
<SilverFox>
because it's not a fucking tyre
<SilverFox>
it's a tire
<Rokker>
darklight: why cant u people language right
<RandomJeb>
I don't even know any brittons that use 'tyre' though I'm sure they exist
<Rokker>
RandomJeb: most of them do
<Rokker>
it's just not that commonly used of a word
<Greys>
amazing surprize, the crew what stole all the patios is not actually going to reinstall the taken slabs
<Greys>
they're setting up the frame to cast new slabs currently
<Greys>
I don't see what's wrong with the old slab, or in fact why they've done this at all
<SilverFox>
shit
<SilverFox>
infrastructure
<Greys>
the patio is not infrastructure
<Greys>
and it was perfectly fine
<SilverFox>
MERICA
<Greys>
that would be a fine excuse if it made any sense, even bad sense
<Greys>
but this is like, they did an expensive unnecessary repair, and it's being handled in house by the apartment management, so it's not like somebody is profiting from management's poor decision
<SilverFox>
there must be more to this
<SilverFox>
like insurance fraud
<RandomJeb>
never underestimate stupid
<RandomJeb>
especially when it comes to unnecessary refurbishing of structures
<Greys>
they didn't refurbish it
<Greys>
they took it, and built a new one
<RandomJeb>
as long as they didn't level the building and build a new one there I'd classify that as refurbishment
<SilverFox>
okay, time to see how long a fresh install of windows 8 takes to boot on ssd
<SilverFox>
"Boot device not found" wut
<SilverFox>
welp, time to reinstall
<SilverFox>
this time it isnt bitching about partition order so thats good
<Greys>
great news, my engine still has far too much oil in it
<Greys>
so it's not draining at a particularly high speed
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<SilverFox>
round two, lets go
<SilverFox>
still no boot device found
<SilverFox>
"the drive is locked"
<Greys>
excellent performance
<SilverFox>
lets see if I can install the metaphorical adobe reader to get this going
<SilverFox>
adobe reader installed
<SilverFox>
~17s to get to desktop, including time to login
<SilverFox>
super speedy
<SilverFox>
now comes the file transfer part
<RandomJeb>
why does your engine have far too much oil in it?
<G-Magic>
Jeb
<SilverFox>
lets see if sata position matters for which drive gets selected to boot
<SilverFox>
apparently does
<SilverFox>
and fun fact, windows hates it when there's another c drive connected
<SilverFox>
so it just straight up ignores it
<SilverFox>
so I cant file transfer between them
<SilverFox>
this would've made my life so much more easy
<SilverFox>
but now, I need to backup my entire drive my spare 1tb hdd, through usb
<SilverFox>
actually, it doesnt have to be usb
<SilverFox>
but more boot bullshit
<SilverFox>
if it accepts my windows profiles after switch this is going to be amazing
<SilverFox>
this harddrive is the slowest external drive I own
<SilverFox>
bedtime now that the first transfer is going
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