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<darklight>
Did you bring a bag to pick up the pieces?
<SilverFox>
it says Diverted because I landed at another airport
<SilverFox>
tried to fly the other cessna that had the range, but it looked gross inside
<SilverFox>
cessna 172 is probs the best prop plane to fly
<SilverFox>
but it has shit range
<darklight>
Did you put fuel in it?
<SilverFox>
..............yes
<SilverFox>
the fuck kind of question is that
<SilverFox>
;wa range of cessna 172
<kmath>
SilverFox: Cessna 172->range with maximum load: 1272 km (kilometers)
<SilverFox>
;wa distance from toronto airport to Goose bay airport
<kmath>
SilverFox: distance->from->Toronto Pearson International Airport, to->Canadian Forces Base Goose Bay: 1769 km (kilometers)
<SilverFox>
see
<SilverFox>
even at full it wouldnt make it, and it wasnt going to, so I had to divert
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<lpghatguy>
SilverFox: that's a long flight in a 172
<SilverFox>
yeah
<SilverFox>
getting close to goose bay
<SilverFox>
descending to ~6500ft
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<SilverFox>
coming for landing
<SilverFox>
landed and taxiing
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<SilverFox>
fuck what was that airport name in greenlad
<SilverFox>
Narsarsuaq
<SilverFox>
;wa distance from Goose Bay Airport to Narsarsuaq airport
<kmath>
SilverFox: distance->from->Canadian Forces Base Goose Bay, to->Narsarsuaq Airport: 1253 km (kilometers)
<Greys>
if you have two GUIDs that you know were generated at similar times by the same source, how many characters on average would you need to check to have a 90% certainty of hitting at least one unmatched pair
<Greys>
if the pairs were selected at random
<SilverFox>
Greys pls
<SilverFox>
anyways, on the way to greenland ayy
<Greys>
GUID are hexdec right?
<Greys>
so for any given character position there's a 1 in 16 chance of having the same character; so you should only have to check 1 character and you're probable to find they don't match
<Greys>
darklight, is the chance of two neighboring characters matching in two different GUID different than chance?
<Greys>
in the same position
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<Greys>
I have the sudden desire to build a mouse with all the clickers disabled, so it just scrolls, because my hand accidentally clicks shit allllllll the time when I'm just scrolling a page reading
<kmath>
Greys: convert 0 K (kelvins) to degrees Fahrenheit: -459.7 °F (degrees Fahrenheit)
<Greys>
8=0, proof
<Greys>
why don't kelvin degrees?
<Supernovy>
a degree is, I think, a bit of the difference between two things - like the angle between two lines, or the temperature between melting and boiling, but kelvin in absolute.
<Supernovy>
so the difference between two temperatures is in degrees kelvin (which are the same as degrees celcius), but temperatures are in kelvins
<Greys>
mmkay
<Greys>
so degree means delta
<Greys>
100C is 100k delta 0C
<Greys>
and likewise 0C is not a degree
<Greys>
unless you compare ot to kelvin
<Greys>
it
<Supernovy>
0C is still relative
<Supernovy>
It's 0 points ahead of the freezing point of water
<Greys>
;wa 0C to K
<kmath>
Greys: convert 0 °C (degrees Celsius) to kelvins: 273.2 K (kelvins)
<Greys>
kelvins?
<Supernovy>
yeah. kelvins are absolute, celciuses are relative
<Greys>
relative is relative; if you have no offset then a relative measure becomes indistinguishable from an absolute measure
<Greys>
0C is that number in K, it's not relative to that number in K, but you can treat it like it is if you want to maintain the relative perspective
<Supernovy>
It's relative to water
<Greys>
it was relative to water
<Greys>
just like inches are defined in meters, celcius is defined in kelvin
<Supernovy>
0 degrees celcius is 273 kelvins, which is 273 degrees away from 0 kelvins.
<Greys>
sure but then kelvin would be a degree again
<GlassYuri>
"Well if there's one thing I like about the Chinese PVs it's that they use smart phones. I can't tell you how many times I've had to sit through Japanese Vocaloid PVs and watch them pull out those dinosaurs of flip phones."
<GlassYuri>
darklight, I can't comprehend how anyone reacts to this bullshit with anything other than silently closing the tab
<kmath>
YouTube - Gustavo Dudamel : Dvorak - Symphony no. 9 - 4th movement - Allegro con fuoco
<Greys>
from the gloriously strange conductor, to the angry pope, to the music that somehow manages to be the archetype of every action movie's score
<Greys>
you could even get inception out of this
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<Greys>
yanno what would sometimes be great, 5 pin XLR connectors for USB
<Greys>
they're huge so they're durable, they have very positive orientation, and they latch
<GlassYuri>
so my extremely poorly made filing jig actually appear to let me make good enough point blades
<GlassYuri>
although I should make one that doesn't give me some hand muscle condition which causes medical bills in excess of what I save by making my own trackwork
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<SilverFox>
Greys, I had a dream where I drove all the way to classes, and I forgot all my stuff
<SilverFox>
its soul crushing
<GlassYuri>
SilverFox, I had that once
<GlassYuri>
except I tried to go back home and get my stuff
<GlassYuri>
notice the tried
<GlassYuri>
because I spent fucking hours searching for my home but couldn't find it
<SilverFox>
nice, like real life or a dream still?
<GlassYuri>
dream
<SilverFox>
sick
<SilverFox>
its a pretty bad feeling tbh
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<GlassYuri>
yeah I woke up because I feared that some teacher would go on a cycling tour after work and discover me in the fucking countryside somewhere
<SilverFox>
nice
<GlassYuri>
like literally I got out of my city and couldn't find it anymore
<GlassYuri>
although to be fair I have spent hours trying to find my home IRL
<SilverFox>
what language were you thinking in?
<GlassYuri>
at that time I only knew german
<SilverFox>
ahhh
<GlassYuri>
well I knew some english as well
<SilverFox>
how long did it take you to learn english?
<GlassYuri>
from primary school until one or two years after I joined the ksp forums and began to actively use it
<GlassYuri>
shit I never realized
<GlassYuri>
I have KSP to blame for fucking most of this
<SilverFox>
most of what?
<GlassYuri>
I would probably not have watched barefoot gen without it, at least not at a time at which the people around me were lined up to allow that chain of unfortunate events to happen which sent me onto another continent
<Greys>
SilverFox, is there any good process on the market for taking a fairly low resolution ABS/PLA print and somehow filling it with a liquid material that largely stays within the form and hardens to make the print entirely solid
<Greys>
say taking the print and dipping it into some kind of fluid that has a high surface tension with the filament material so it won't want to extend beyond
<SilverFox>
uhmmmmm
<Greys>
probably using vacuum pressure to pull the liquid in, and then surface tension will keep it there while it hardens
<SilverFox>
so you print a shitty print, then dip it in liquid, or fill it with liquid on the inside like injection moulding?
<Greys>
about yea
<SilverFox>
never heard of it before
<SilverFox>
whats your usecase?
<Greys>
the key being you can take a fast print and make it more structural with a post process
<Greys>
ok, say you have a bike, and you want to print a mount for your flashlight
<SilverFox>
yeah no it doesnt exist to my knowledge
<Greys>
you can 3D print it, that's easy, but there's a lot of structural concerns and you're going to have a lot of plastic in there to make it strong
<Greys>
you could have portions with hundred percent in fill but that slows it down and doesn't change the weakness between layers
<Greys>
time is money, filament is money, and you still get something not great
<SilverFox>
its for prototyping, not for solutions
<Greys>
pump it full of silvero's solid-maker jizz and it's great
<SilverFox>
that also has costs associated with it
<Greys>
yes but like 3D printing it has the availability value
<Greys>
you get a result similar to cast or injected parts with the flexibility of 3D printing and the availability of a kit
<Greys>
the hard part is probably the activator
<Greys>
is PLA/ABS UV transparent?
<SilverFox>
nope
<SilverFox>
resin is tho
<SilverFox>
well, probs not
<SilverFox>
it hardens with uv, so its not transparent for long
<Greys>
yea but resin can do actually solid printing, has layer fusing, and is sensitive to UV damage
<SilverFox>
yeah it sounds like what you want is resin or injection moulding
<SilverFox>
which is what I suggest
<Greys>
too expensive
<Greys>
what's the typical hotend temp for most printers?
<SilverFox>
0 - 200something
<Greys>
0?
<SilverFox>
yeah, room temp
<Greys>
ok, different question; with typical filament, at what temperature do they start to get mushy
<SilverFox>
invalid question
<Greys>
explain
<SilverFox>
every filament is different and every brand makes it differently, so you'd have to check the spec sheet for the melting temperatures
<SilverFox>
and I've seen them be wildly different before
<Greys>
there has to be a common ballpark right?
<SilverFox>
if you want some stupid range then sure
<SilverFox>
basically what I gave you before
<Greys>
so there are filaments that you have to print in a fridge?
<SilverFox>
its like, a 50 degree range
<Greys>
150 to 200?
<SilverFox>
no, offset more higher
<SilverFox>
~190 - 240
<Greys>
175 to 225?
<Greys>
Celcioid?
<SilverFox>
of course
<Greys>
that's pretty hot
<SilverFox>
yup
<SilverFox>
meltin plastic real quick
<SilverFox>
has to go from solid to fluid in the span of a second or two
<Greys>
so typical filaments would not deform at 100C
<SilverFox>
ehhhhhh maybe
<Greys>
75C?
<SilverFox>
I'd be more comfortable with that
<SilverFox>
there are filaments that are rated for water boiling in them
<SilverFox>
which means they can stand 100 degree without long term warpage
<Greys>
so a thermoactive resin that hardens in response to 75Cish would work
<Greys>
use some kind of vacuum system to fill the print, wipe it down, and then put it in a toaster oven
<Greys>
alternatively, a very low temperature thermoplastic like hotglue, that can be pulled into the print while molten without melting the ABS/PLA
<SilverFox>
ehhhh
<SilverFox>
you'd need some good cooling to make sure that filament wasnt still hot at all, and also the filament is rather thin, so applying heat and force to it isnt great, especially during a print
<Greys>
not during the print but I get it
<Greys>
one value of such a system would be that you could get the prints off the printer sooner, and start printing the next thing, while the parts move into this post process fill step
<SilverFox>
also, what would you think about a pi formfactor device with like, 4-6 sata 3 ports and a dedicated 100mbps ethernet port, but like, thats basically most of the connectivity
<SilverFox>
I thought of it in the shower for like, NASPis and shit
<SilverFox>
also, there's already post-processing that can be done to a print via a certain chemical that eats away at the plastic to result in a smoother print
<SilverFox>
I forget what the chemical is called, probably starts with an a
<SilverFox>
albetone or something
<SilverFox>
its an alcohol nonetheless
<Greys>
that'd be brilliant for most people
<Greys>
2 sata ports would be great
<SilverFox>
ayyy I thought of something deemed as brilliant
<Greys>
british use of brilliant
<SilverFox>
so 2-4 sata ports then?
<SilverFox>
I wonder how much more expensive it is to have 40 GPIO pins over 20
<Greys>
I wonder at what speeds and volumes CPU capacity begins to be significant to disk access
<SilverFox>
when you're accessing lots of small files
<SilverFox>
I learned that the hard way
<SilverFox>
once setup KWS to save data per cell
<SilverFox>
it took 10 minutes to delete that shit
<SilverFox>
they were all like, ~65KB files
<SilverFox>
or less
<Greys>
are you sure that was CPU, and not just the fact that you were queing the disk to perform thousands of individual operations
<SilverFox>
my cpu was maxed, yes
<Greys>
ok
<SilverFox>
well, probs a combination of both, since maxed is less literal use, it was just really high usage
<Greys>
if it maxed the CPU the technicalities don't matter all that much
<SilverFox>
it was like, millions of files tho so Im sure a cpu thats on the pi would suffice
<Greys>
so with a quadcore pi you'd really want a distro of linux where filesystem operations are able to exploit at least 3 cores
<Greys>
the pirocessor is a lot weaker than your CPU
<SilverFox>
I know
<SilverFox>
so, without having to worry about hdmi and sound output that saves some moneys
<Greys>
I mean as you probably know that all this scales harshly, so if your CPU didn't like millions of files, a pi probably wouldn't like tens of files
<SilverFox>
I would say hundreds for the pi
<SilverFox>
I've deleted "tens of files" on my pi before
<Greys>
at least with 3 cores (is the pi hyperthreaded? can you hyperthread arm?) then you get tripple that
<SilverFox>
and moved tens of files
<SilverFox>
it dont take that long
<Greys>
keep in mind this would be used with HDDs, and probably in raid, not flash cards
<Greys>
the reason 2 would be great is then you can mirror, and most people who want a NAS need mirroring for safety, but everything past that is kind of unnecessary
<SilverFox>
so I'd say the pi, from my experience, would bog down around tens of hundreds or thousands of files
<Greys>
on flash
<Greys>
I think with HDDs you're going to see half that, and with raid you're going to see a quarter, so with raided HDDs you'll see an eighth
<SilverFox>
yeah, which is much slower than hdds and SSDs
<SilverFox>
"when you roll a nat20 on perception but there's nothing to perceive"
<Greys>
your GM shouldn't have let you roll if there was nothing to find; there's so many ways around this
<Greys>
perception rolls should have a goal, and you give that goal to the GM before you roll so they can decide on a DC, they can then create something to be found, or if there's really nothing there they can just give you the result
<Greys>
the player calling a perception roll means their character is inspecting something.
<SilverFox>
it was a tumblr post about someone like:
<SilverFox>
"Does anyone ever do the opposite of dissociate?? where you're just suddenly and uncomfortable aware of your situation and reality?" "More to the point why do I get that feeling when im sitting on top of my kitchen table watching a velveeta mac and cheese pack spin in the microwave for three and a half minutes and im just like I Exist I Am Here And There's Nothing I Can Do About It"
<SilverFox>
"#when you roll a nat20 on perception and there's nothing to perceive"
<Greys>
that's called introspection
<Greys>
not perception
<SilverFox>
semantics
<SilverFox>
its a joke dude
<Greys>
it's a joke that only works if you're bad at D&D, or not into D&D
<SilverFox>
or if you actually have a sense of humor and aren't fueled by semantical arguments
<Greys>
imagine I made a joke about 3D printers that revealed a core failure to understand 3D printers
* VITAS
fails to fully understand laravel
<SilverFox>
I would do the same, because Im autistic as fuck and cant grasp humor when its being used as humor
<VITAS>
someone from the ksp comunity once suggested laravel to me and i could use his help now :D
<SilverFox>
so if there are any inaccuracies, I point them out and ruin the joke and everyone hates me
* VITAS
has problems udnerstanding irony if not labled ( with irony smilies)
<Greys>
personally I suspect it's a girl who doesn't care about other people's perceptions, but everyone calls them a boy; but also they'd definitely murder you, repeatedly, before you started to fall over
<SilverFox>
probably
<SilverFox>
so the real question is, do I get a choice in tapping that or naw?
<Greys>
Definitely not
<SilverFox>
welp
<SilverFox>
but wait
<SilverFox>
I dont really give a shit if I die or not, since Im not in charge of saving lives right now
<SilverFox>
so younna, whatever happens happens
<SilverFox>
however, if it happens during the time im practicing nursing, then id do whatever it takes to stay alive because I have people who depend on me
<Qboid>
SilverFox: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
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<Greys>
SilverFox, is there a mod to put airfields on mars?
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<VITAS>
so g20 protest has begun...theres smoke rising from where its held
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<Greys>
there's a town in michigan, called Brownstown, which is 3 discontinuous regions
<Greys>
two large regions and one small region between them, one big region is mostly water and is separated from the small region by a railroad that literally neither region touches because reasons, region reasons
<Greys>
the other large region is at it's closest 2km away
<Greys>
SilverFox, did I convince you to watch Gakkou Gurashi?
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<Greys>
#1 anime where 1/6th of the main cast is a hallucination resultant from a psychotic snap