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<SilverFox>
just watched it on my google carcboard, it was broken as fuck and the scenes for which the people are focused keep going all over the room, so following the people singing is harder, but I really like this media because it allows you to see what the other idols do in the background
<SilverFox>
now if only I could adjust the fucking focal length that'd be great
<GlassYuri>
"<Majiir> I don't know much Korean and I know even less Koreaboo" anything I ever thought I knew about maj is a lie
<SilverFox>
tfw you know more korean than the OG koreaboo
<SilverFox>
also, I shouldnt be surprised, but my phone suffers from screendoor effect
<SilverFox>
who woulda figured
<SilverFox>
and that's playing into why I cant focus properly
<SilverFox>
there's this guy on a korean show called "show me the money" and his shirt says, written in english, "Having a dick makes you a male, not a man"
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<SilverFox>
how can something be a generosity and a duty?
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<lpghatguy>
SilverFox: your duty could be generosity
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<SilverFox>
but is it truly being generous if you are obligated?
<SilverFox>
;wa generousity
<kmath>
SilverFox: generosity (English word): 1->noun->the trait of being willing to give your money or time, 2->noun->acting generously
<lpghatguy>
SilverFox: you could feel morally obligated to be generous
<SilverFox>
that's still out of your own voalition
<SilverFox>
its not like you're given orders
<SilverFox>
english is weird
<lpghatguy>
you're treading into dangerous waters when you start considering whether moral obligation is out of your own volition
<lpghatguy>
some people would argue that you are bound by social contract, even subconsciously
<SilverFox>
"Yo, boss says go clean up table 3" and you do it, that isn't being generous, but "Hey, ima clean up table 3 while we wait for customers" is more along the lines of generous
<SilverFox>
adding a free drink to a meal is generousity
<lpghatguy>
the second case you present though is missing the subtext of motivation that muddles the concept of 'generous'
<lpghatguy>
You might add a free drink to a meal to get a bigger tip, even just because of your reward centers firing subconsciously
<SilverFox>
my definition of generousity is "going out of own's own way to do something beneficial for another by own's own voalition"
<SilverFox>
Helping someone across the road, donating to charity
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<SilverFox>
ye
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<Greys>
woo, I got paid
<Greys>
which makes today the 14th
<Greys>
that's definitely the ooooonly day I get paid on other than the day before the first
<SilverFox>
wai
<SilverFox>
t
<SilverFox>
we discovered time travel
<Greys>
quantum uncertainty based time tribbles
<Greys>
if you put a cat in a box and then later open the box, how can you know that during the time it was unobserved the cat travelled linearly through time at a locally congruent pace
<SilverFox>
you dont for certain know the shit that went on during unobserved time
<SilverFox>
the only way to know is to observ
<Greys>
for all you know the cat experienced the correct amount of time by travelling through time normally for the first quarter, reverse normally the second quarter, then jumped to the end without experiencing time, then reverse double normal to the half way point, and then jumping back to the end, but slightly in front of where it was before
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<Greys>
alternatively, maybe that cat has fully prehensile control over the radioactive decay of atoms within it's body, and can create an indescernable state at will
<SilverFox>
anything is possible in metaphysics
<Greys>
and cats
<SilverFox>
cats can suck a dick thv
<SilverFox>
tho
<Greys>
yea but cats are the in charge of quantum shinanigans
<SilverFox>
but they're also assholes
<Greys>
what if the next zelda did like the zelda before the current zelda hereforeth known as last zelda and introduced an alternate reality; except instead of shadow, or maybe in addition to shadow, and also there were a bunch
<Greys>
and each alternate reality has a triforce
<Greys>
so there's like nine elemental triforcys, but then some psychoelemental triforcys like the hope triforce, dream triforce, and fear triforce; maybe have shadow be one of those
<Greys>
the multiverse is collapsing and primary link has to save it to save his hirule
<SilverFox>
hyrule
<Greys>
nono, see, that's the trick
<Greys>
in this game, it's hirule
<Greys>
because this isn't actually primary link
<Greys>
the last alternate reality he goes to is actual primary reality, hyrule, and you have to face the fact that you exist in service of this other reality
<SilverFox>
go do it
<SilverFox>
go learn japanese, move to japan, not in that particular order, join nintendo, assassinate whoever the fuck does link these days, ursurp them
<Greys>
hey, that guy is doing a good job
<SilverFox>
I know
<SilverFox>
but in order to be in charge, you must take down those who are in charge
<SilverFox>
go nuke them again and assert your american freedoms
<Greys>
or, become in charge of them
<SilverFox>
that's after you assert your dominance
<SilverFox>
this is your task
<SilverFox>
your entire life has built up to this moment
<Greys>
I'd rather make a podracers clone
<SilverFox>
oh right, that
<SilverFox>
oh fuck yeah
<SilverFox>
VR podracing
<SilverFox>
that would work rather well
<Greys>
kind of
<SilverFox>
because you have the handles and shit
<SilverFox>
your arms aren't close together
<SilverFox>
hands arent close
<SilverFox>
like in the case of a steering wheel
<Greys>
a lot of podracing is interacting with the machine, and those controllers do a bad job of emulating it
<SilverFox>
you're underestimating it
<SilverFox>
I can fly a boeing747 with them
<Greys>
has anybody made a fixed joystick with position tracking?
<Greys>
like a HOTAS but with tracking points built in
<SilverFox>
differential throttling can be done with the analog joysticks on the controller
<Greys>
that's abandoning the design
<SilverFox>
what other things can work well in vr
<Greys>
claw games
<Greys>
actually, I have a great idea
<Greys>
the only reason the controllers wouldn't work well is that they're free floating
<Greys>
what if we make a rig that mounts onto them
<Greys>
the core issue is that holding your arms in this position is extremely strenous, and most players are not going to be able to do it for an entire course
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<SilverFox>
but I guess you spend lots of energy holding those tree trunk arms of yours you fucking giant
<SilverFox>
they totes can
<Greys>
secondarily the rig can restrict movement both in total range, and apply resitance
<SilverFox>
if they cant hold up like, 5lbs cumulative for 3 minutes they are too weak
<Greys>
welcome to murka
<SilverFox>
if you wanna build that, go for it
<Greys>
this would probably be better with the oculus controller but the vive controller will be easier to mount
<SilverFox>
I have so many songs I need to add to my kpop playlist
<SilverFox>
oculus controller looks more the part
<SilverFox>
and it's easy to tell which is right and which is left
<Greys>
and it's more suitable for the handlebar posture
<SilverFox>
mhm
<Greys>
holding a vive controller horizontally is gonna be weird, but they have that super convenient hole in the middle to mount with
<Greys>
wait, isn't there a bunch of gen2 controllers in the near future?
<Greys>
as long as we make the straps long enough for most people, we can sell an extension; it'll strap onto any size forearm
<Greys>
grab your controllers, snap your arms into these holders, then you have full wrist movement and we can use that for control; where if we mount to the controller it will be fixed
<SilverFox>
mounting controller is best option
<Greys>
I'm not even sure we can mount the oculus controller
<SilverFox>
no room with hand on it
<SilverFox>
so what you'd have to do is an insert system
<Greys>
I'm running with arm attachments
<SilverFox>
well this is where we diverge
<SilverFox>
pilots can rest there hands on the yoke
<SilverFox>
anakin did as well
<Greys>
which doesn't make a ton of sense; I think there were several rigs involved with different motion capacities
<SilverFox>
drivers rest their hands on the wheel
<Greys>
yep, but this ain't a wheel
<SilverFox>
in no situation is any motion control mounted to the forearms
<SilverFox>
just found the ecchi equivalent in korean
<Greys>
so, regardless of the attachment system, I'm thinking we have a structure that's like two crosses (jesus sticks) next to eachother, attached in the middle, with a ball joint at the crossing point with a big metal 7ish shaped thing sticking up, it has a few adjustment points, and then the arms of the crucifixys have hydraulically dampened spring pistons, pretty much exactly like this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uwM5UANql-o/maxresdefault.jpg
<SilverFox>
변태
<Greys>
so the upright is buffered in 4 directions to stay centered but can move in a cone
<Greys>
we can make the side to side pistons more powerful so you'll trend in a line, and if everything is ball joints, you can even twist a little
<Greys>
might need additional hardware to resist twisting so the thing doesn't want to forcefully rotate 90 degrees
<SilverFox>
sounds expensive
<SilverFox>
for a super niche product
<Greys>
if we can make use of those lift struts we can use generic automotive parts
<SilverFox>
"generic automotive parts" that in no way sounds expensive
<Greys>
amazon has them for under 10$ per pair, so they can probably be sourced for under 5$ per pair
<SilverFox>
remember we need to make profit off this
<Greys>
the original steel battalion controller retailed for 300$
<Greys>
100% custom injection molding and circuitry
<Greys>
this will be 3 peices of probably aluminum C channel, maybe steel because it does tend to be cheaper, maybe square tube I'm not sure how the costs compare, with off the shelf parts
<Greys>
the only thing we'll have to actually make is the upright and the attachment
<SilverFox>
well, this game wont be popular, or legal, so this shouldnt be expensice
<Greys>
it won't be legal?
<SilverFox>
not if we sell it
<SilverFox>
or market it
<Greys>
you're misunderstanding the word clone
<SilverFox>
I bet you the entire lawsuit's money that disney gonna sue
<SilverFox>
especially if it gets popular
<Greys>
you're misunderstanding the word clone
<SilverFox>
I dont give a shit about your clones, this shit happens
<SilverFox>
just recently happened with league of legends "clones"
<SilverFox>
happens all the time with nintendo stuff
<Greys>
evidence suggests the speed of light issue is actually insignificant
<SilverFox>
"extender cables" :thinking:
<Greys>
I have to assume that if this isn't working, and the 1070 is working, there is probably a fault in the riser
<darklight>
Greys, she had it in the far slot, wouldn't boot (it used to)
<Greys>
does it need to be in the far slot?
<SilverFox>
oh, did she plug something into the other pcie slots?
<SilverFox>
because mobos will allocate slots and sometimes turn them off if other shit is plugged into higher slots
<darklight>
Then I just thought lets move to the top slot, got it to boot ok but only after setting to gen1 in the bios
<Greys>
anyway, what I'm saying is do a continuity survey
<SilverFox>
naw dont do that yet, see if there's any other pcie cards
<SilverFox>
plugging into first slot is usually x16, second slot puts both first and second slot to x8 and sometimes turns off the third slot
<darklight>
Its all working fine after we moved the slot, the alfoil let it boot in gen2 but crapped out on windows load
<Greys>
you might just have a shitty riser
<darklight>
So it also helped :P
<darklight>
It looks decent
<SilverFox>
why do you need a riser?
<Greys>
because it's being built into a desk
<Greys>
and thus can't be standing
<darklight>
It all started screwing up after she moved her desk computer into her room
<Greys>
yep
<Greys>
look at that benchmark article, at the bottom of the post
<SilverFox>
thermals or power issue?
<Greys>
"risers are severely impacted by nearby sources of interference"
<darklight>
Actually the desk is big enough to allow direct connections, but that would break the AESTHETIC
<SilverFox>
you did it wrong
<SilverFox>
A E S T H E T I C
<darklight>
It is relatively close to the psu, but the thing I am thinking of is the pc is made of wood, not metal, so everything would be floating
<darklight>
Am on my phone and I am lazy
<Greys>
I bet, give you're making a computer, that you have some electrostatic bags on hand, you should try to shroud the riser in one
<Greys>
modern ES bags are resistive so I don't know if that's actually going to matter, but maybe
<Greys>
if you have any eary 90s ES bags that'll probably work better, since they're conductive
<Greys>
typically that'd be the ones with a grid pattern, but some resistive bags have a grid pattern for visual effect
<Greys>
also darklight, if she can justify the cost, you might want to attach copper mesh to the bottom of the desk; even if just under the components in question, but ideally full bottom, full sides, and the desk's PSU outside the shield
<Greys>
that way only interference sources above the desk can get at the components
<darklight>
Its working and I have had enough of it
<darklight>
It works, so I am staying away from it now :P
<Greys>
so like 50$ to coat the bottom of a desk similar to hers
<darklight>
"Email trail turning up the heat on the trump whitehouse" SHUT UP TV AND SHOW US THE GOODS
<Greys>
now I'm looking at this paint here with nickel in it that claims to create a conductive surface, 30$ for the can, but I don't know what area that would cover
<Greys>
and I don't know what color it is
<Greys>
but presumibly you'd be able to paint over it so whatever
<darklight>
Ahhhhahaha pauline hanson flew a drone of a balcony and that's definitely breaking regulation :P
<G-Mobile>
Is that a politician?
<darklight>
She is a less well spoken trump
<G-Mobile>
I didnt notice that pauline is a feminine name...
<SilverFox>
Greys, I honestly think psychiatry bots should be illegal
<SilverFox>
just because of how volatile someone with mental problems can be
<SilverFox>
it takes a human to deal with that
<G-Mobile>
what if it were a perscription system, and only super qualified therapists could authorize it
<SilverFox>
then they'd be putting their licenses on the line
<SilverFox>
dont think they'd do that
<G-Mobile>
"I certify that this person is not so broken that this would be a danger
<SilverFox>
because all it takes is one thing to go wrong and they can lose their license
<SilverFox>
forever
<G-Mobile>
What if the bot had citizenship
<SilverFox>
its not a human
<SilverFox>
no matter how complex this chatbot can be, due to the sheer nature of how chatbots work, it cant be allowed
<G-Mobile>
so?
<SilverFox>
it doesnt have the brain of a human
<SilverFox>
not the looks of a human
<SilverFox>
the warmth and compassion of a human
<SilverFox>
its all faceless, behind technology
<SilverFox>
not real
<G-Mobile>
What if its an AI, that has qualified for a license
<SilverFox>
what im going on about is just a glimpse into someone who has trust issues
<SilverFox>
this will spiral out of control
<SilverFox>
and what can this robot do? nothing
<SilverFox>
it'll sit there, trying to say things, but fail
<G-Mobile>
and now we're back to Incide
<SilverFox>
this robot doesnt have its own life
<SilverFox>
it cant relate
<SilverFox>
it lacks empathy
<G-Mobile>
This fucking centaur manga
<SilverFox>
it cant restrain a patient, it doesnt see the patient, it cant call for help if the patient goes wrong
<G-Mobile>
protagonist girl has red hair, which is weird in japan; a trope in manga is the morals/disciplinary officer who shames people into conforming
<darklight>
I hope this computerphile guy didn't forget about integer overflow :P
<G-Mobile>
Hair dye is bad
<darklight>
Not that it matters for this
<G-Mobile>
Centaur girl: the moral officer never believed me
<G-Mobile>
Ram girl: that sounds like racial descrimination
<G-Mobile>
Centaur girl: yea, he was arrested
<G-Mobile>
btw, did I mention the chapter where a farmer spent a loooooong time preaching obama's greatness and how industry ruins capitalism and then aliens abducted him
<SilverFox>
oh shit, the girl on the car's tv screen when they go on their first out of retirement mission was susan on Desperate Housewives
<SilverFox>
what was the other shitty movie set? Sharkboy and Lavagirl?
<G-Mobile>
Thats still spy kids
<G-Mobile>
and there were at least 3 other movies
<SilverFox>
what other movies?
<darklight>
Spykids 3d
<darklight>
spykids 4d?
<SilverFox>
holy 2001 fashion batman
<darklight>
Silverfox does your watch tell time?
<darklight>
Did you do a binary switch on your weather AI?
<SilverFox>
tfw danny trejo
<Supernovy>
yfw he goes on HRT and becomes tranny dejo
<darklight>
"Suicidal man doused in gasoline catches fire after police use Taser on him"
<GlassYuri>
there are a few different systems out there
<GlassYuri>
a few of them have more than one user
<Greys>
do they exist as routable networks with independently operating trains
<GlassYuri>
define that
<Greys>
there exist multiple paths between multiple destinations
<Greys>
there's multiple trains travelling the tracks without respect to eachother beyond collision avoidance
<GlassYuri>
so anything that is not connected at the ends and has only one path is not a real railway?
<Greys>
a loop is a loop
<Greys>
a line is a line
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<Greys>
a railway is multiple loops and or lines
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<GlassYuri>
well if it's a single track line the amount of possible train movement is limited
<Greys>
I always had trouble in railcraft justifying a system that was more complicated than a bunch of direct lines travelled in a single direction by dedicated trains, where no route ever overlapped
<GlassYuri>
so the eidan touzai line was not a real railway back when it was like five stations in a line and the trains had to be lowered into a hole in the street because the ends were not connected?
<Greys>
one train from the forest machine, one train from the mining machine, one train from the oil machine, one train from the oceanic drain pump; all on their own tracks in isolation doing a loop
<Greys>
a hole in the street?
<GlassYuri>
literally
<Greys>
I consider the connection between each station to be a line
<Greys>
so, if a train at station 3 could decide to go to station 2 without caring what the trains at station 2 thought about it, then I'm willing to count that as a railway
<Greys>
in network terms, if you connect an ethernet cable directly between two computers, that's not a network
<Greys>
if you connect several using a switch, that's a very basic network and is going to have issues but it'll do
<GlassYuri>
well if the track at station 2 is not free you can go in that direction but not enter the station
<Greys>
was it a single.... is two tracks that the train straddles a single track
<Greys>
two rails
<GlassYuri>
it was double tracked
<Greys>
two rails = one track some of the time?
<Greys>
did it have designated directional rails?
<GlassYuri>
except for monorails, a track has generally two, sometimes more rails
<Greys>
ok
<GlassYuri>
yes, I'm pretty sure all the subway lines are unidirectional except where absolutely necessary
<Greys>
I didn't know this was a subway
<Greys>
considering it goes into a ground hole I assumed it started above ground
<GlassYuri>
I said the trains had to be lowered into a hole in the street
<Greys>
so the hole in the ground is underground, thus it's a hole from the ground to the more ground?
<Greys>
ok, so it's a linear section of track with multiple destinations and direction lanes; wherein any given train is free within the confines of it's business to travel between any two destinations without the concern of other trains, except where they physically "interact"
<Greys>
that's a railway.
<Greys>
sharp dangent
<Greys>
can a service declare that it is a common carrier, and have that be legally meaningful?
<GlassYuri>
it is not really free to travel between any destinations as it can only follow it's track until it reaches the line end or a crossover where it is physically and regulationally possible to enter the other track and change direction
<Greys>
it has to follow the rules and the routes yea
<Greys>
but a train at station 4 can become at station 1 and it's not the concern of any other trains
<Greys>
one track in a circle between two destinations is not a railway
<Greys>
the detroit zoo has a train, it travels a fixed route between two destinations, there are no other trains on the track (though there is a decommissioned engine turned statue on display nearby)
<Greys>
this is not a railway, this is a train and a track
<GlassYuri>
so if it were two trains it would be a railway?
<Greys>
no, because there would never be a situation where either could go anywhere without the concern of the other
<Greys>
train A must be at station 1 until it can be reasonably sure that when it arrives at station 2, train B will not be there
<Greys>
and will not be between 1 and 2 on the 1->2 section of track
<Greys>
which basically means any time either train goes somewhere, the other train must also go somewhere
<Greys>
as there are N trains, N segments, and N destinations, at all times both trains will occupy the opposite of the other
<Greys>
therefore, at all times, the position of train A, and it's intention, is of great concern to train B
<GlassYuri>
so if they had a way to take a train out of service, it would be a railway?
<Greys>
that would involve adding a destination
<Greys>
more destinations, more segments, more routing options
<Greys>
and yea, immediately the position of the other train becomes substantially less important
<GlassYuri>
I wasn't counting any trackwork intended for non-revenue operations only as a destination
<Greys>
if it's somewhere a train could want to go, with the abstractions necessary to permit "trains" to "desire", then that's a destination
<Greys>
and if it's a destination there must be routes to it
<Greys>
routes are composed of segments, and segments get cut up depending on how routes between destinations can use the same track to construction and maintenance resources
<Greys>
if you want to add a destination to a 2 destination loop, the ideal situation is to branch off in the middle of one existing segment, or both, as a bypass, and now you have a linear directional track pair between 3 destinations
<Greys>
#1, a railway must connect multiple destinations
<Greys>
#2, a railway must allow the free travel between any destination via some route
<Greys>
ideally everything is bypassed out so the main rail lines are not congested by station operation, but that's not necessary so long as a train is not required to stop at every station it passes through
<GlassYuri>
"between any destination" so two separate lines can't be a railway, but can be two railways?
<Greys>
what do you mean by "separate"....
<Greys>
like, two lines with 4 destinations?
<GlassYuri>
not physically connected
<Greys>
I at some point abandoned the word line
<Greys>
do you mean segment or route?
<GlassYuri>
take keio railway, the inokashira line has a different gauge than the main and branch lines
<GlassYuri>
they share one station where the main line passes over the inokashira and people can transfer
<Greys>
so two incompatible track pairs that share a destination
<Greys>
that's funny
<GlassYuri>
yes, but operated by the same company and not considered separate for fare calculation
<Greys>
this map is funny because it's oriented wrong
<Greys>
it would have been really easy for them to put in another station near the middle of the park, and then the train would be way more useful; for the vast majority of the park your destination is as close or closer by walking than by travelling to the nearest station
<Greys>
like, if they put a bypass station at Small Animals, they could then have two trains operating on the network, and from most places in the park GOD FUCKING NEIGHBORS
<Greys>
they're doing like, wailing karaoke
<Greys>
it sounds like slightly more musically inclined wind
<GlassYuri>
why the need for a bypass and a second train
<Greys>
you don't need one
<GlassYuri>
a station alone would help
<Greys>
but you should have one
<Greys>
if you have a bypass at the middle station (or all stations for that matter) then a train that doesn't want to stop at middle station can do so without being concerned if middle station is occupied
<Greys>
inline stations stop trains on the active tracks, stoping flow on the active tracks
<Greys>
probably what they'd do is have one train travelling constantly between the most distant stations, and one train travelling to the next station
<GlassYuri>
you're not going to run a local/rapid/semi-express/express/rapid express/commuter express/limited express/airport limited express style system there
<Greys>
just the two
<GlassYuri>
they could just run two trains offset at half line length
<Greys>
I'd love to get three trains on that track but it's both unnecessary and too small
<GlassYuri>
so they would be at the terminals at the same time, or, assuming the middle station were exactly halfway inbetween, one train in each direction in the middle
<Greys>
it's just past middle way going from the bottom station to the top station, and then from top to bottom is a much longer segment
<Greys>
so how much further do you think we can push this scottsman
<GlassYuri>
so it's 0:50AM, and I drilled two holes
<Greys>
you're welcome.
<GlassYuri>
well, I drilled two 1mm holes, drilled them out to 2.5mm which was the largest drill I have, then fucking roamed them to 6mm using screwdrivers
<GlassYuri>
now I have to cut a slot
<GlassYuri>
I already have slept an hour so I only need 6 more until 9am
<GlassYuri>
I assume you didn't do it with screwdrivers, or at least not always?
<Greys>
it's called a reamer and they're bullshit
<Greys>
we used reamers to get a hole that was supposed to be to within a specified micron in order to have a specified pin fit; yea that never happened
<GlassYuri>
a micron was like 0.025mm, right?
<Greys>
;wa 1 micron to mm
<kmath_>
Greys: convert 1 micron to millimeters: 0.001 mm (millimeters)
<GlassYuri>
wait so 1/1000 of an in was a mil or what
<Greys>
the darker it is, the closer to unity the distance you'd have to walk either way
<Greys>
I'm pretty sure micron is exclusively metric
<Greys>
in imperial you have thou, thenths, and then fuck knows
<GlassYuri>
wait so they used metric but got rid of you for not supporting trump?
<Greys>
what?
<Greys>
no, we're a machine shop, we he recieve jobs in everything
<Greys>
this job was metric
<Greys>
we machined it in imperial
<Greys>
because fuck everything
<Greys>
the machines have a setting for metric
<Greys>
we manually convert all ther dimmensions
<Greys>
did I mention the foreman was borderline illiterate?
<GlassYuri>
my current team's 3d artist only speaks chinese
<GlassYuri>
no idea how he even got into the school
<Greys>
what's your project?
<Greys>
is it anime train related?
<GlassYuri>
isn't being borderline illiterate a prerequesite for voting trump
<Greys>
god knows anime train stuff has been wounded by rail wars, it needs some improvement and/or mercy
<Greys>
he absolutely voted trump
<GlassYuri>
it's a visual novel project, but not the other visual novel project that I only learned about today
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<GlassYuri>
Greys, so I finished that slot, it works fine and all, except that it's past 2am and I'm covered in a mix of sweat, plastic shavings, and the feeling of being hungry
<GlassYuri>
also sitting in front of a pc at a small desk is not a great place to handle objects of a length of one metric meter
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<Greys>
Glass|phone I was unaware of any slot
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<Greys>
what if a real doctor started a practice where they pretend to be a mystic, to exploit placebo
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<G-Mobile>
SilverFox: Tara Long's basketball ignoring simulator, best vr idea ever
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<G-Mobile>
What the fuck happened to the fantasy spaceship game
<SilverFox>
G-Mobile, what is Tara Long's Basketball Ignoring simulator?
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<G-Mobile>
The best vr experience
<SilverFox>
you are still failing to describe it
<G-Mobile>
you and sixteen friends sit in lawn chairs on a basketball court holding basketballs as you watch distant monsters move, and your drinks slowly empty
<SilverFox>
how is this "ignoring basketball"?
<G-Mobile>
How isnt it
<SilverFox>
you have basketballs
<SilverFox>
on a basketball court
<SilverFox>
in which you can play basketball
<G-Mobile>
You cant
<G-Mobile>
you cant play at all
<SilverFox>
you could throw the ball at the hoop
<G-Mobile>
You cant
<SilverFox>
this sounds like absolute shit
<SilverFox>
however
<SilverFox>
take out basketball and you have Hank Hill simulator
<SilverFox>
and that would be great
<G-Mobile>
The player cannot take action
<G-Mobile>
you dont drink the drink, it drains constantly
<SilverFox>
worst idea ever
<G-Mobile>
17.99kUSD/Ms
<SilverFox>
actually I take that back
<SilverFox>
"canadian muslim demands that pedophilia be legal" <- that is the worst idea ever
<VITAS>
i find it more disturbing that the only thing they say about him is that hes muslim
<VITAS>
why not: brown eyed guy or hockey player or car driver?
<SilverFox>
what are you on about?
<VITAS>
why is it of any interrest what religion a person has
<VITAS>
or is it of any interrested in the context of his demand?
<SilverFox>
yeah, they bring up the quran and how blessed muhhamed was and how its totally great and shit
<VITAS>
what does that have to do with the age to have sex?
<SilverFox>
because muhammed married a 6yr old, and then had sex with her at age 9
* VITAS
wants proof of that
<VITAS>
and also: long time ago
<SilverFox>
yes, it was a long time ago, about like, 1400-1700 years or some shit
<SilverFox>
and I would give you proof, but I just dont know how to word it to google?
<SilverFox>
"is it true mohammed married a 6yr old?"
<VITAS>
the internet isnt proof that their prophet did what they claim he did
<SilverFox>
if you want proof further than this, go read the quran
<VITAS>
i can
<VITAS>
i have it on my shelf next to "mein kampf"
<VITAS>
and the bible
<SilverFox>
"Aisha was six or seven years old when she was married to Muhammad with the marriage not being consummated until she had reached puberty at the age of nine or ten years old."
<VITAS>
....and because she was born on the 29th of february it was legal
<VITAS>
:D
<SilverFox>
at the time yes
<VITAS>
today too
<SilverFox>
no
<VITAS>
6*4=24
<SilverFox>
congrats you can multiply?
<VITAS>
29th?
<VITAS>
:/
<SilverFox>
back then there was no leap years
<VITAS>
i preffer to belve there where because it could solve everything :D
<SilverFox>
well that's great what you prefer to beleive, but this is how shit actually went down
<SilverFox>
and people are using it as excuse to try and legalize child marriage and then consumation of said marriage as a child
<SilverFox>
dont care what rational you bring to the table, in today's society, this shouldn't be allowed, ever
<SilverFox>
it can be way too damaging for the child
<VITAS>
i think we know equaly well (or dont) if there where leap years and if he realy married that girl
<VITAS>
yes we totaly agree on "no pedophilie"
<VITAS>
im trying to find a way to find a solution that gets back on them with their own arguments
<VITAS>
and its a fact that laws shouldnt be based on belives but on proofable facts
<VITAS>
religion is per definition based on belive and thus unsuited as foundation for rational rules
<SilverFox>
but sweet jesus christ that's a lot of shit coming together
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<SilverFox>
they're redefining planck's constant, the kg, and avagadro's number and combining a bunch of macroscopic quantum effects to get shit precise enough