raptop changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.11.2 | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | < Solar_Oracle> What can you do on Venus? Unless you put up a Tibanna gas refinery and casino, absolutely nothing.
<immibis>
you mean how to go there? type /join #kspmodders
<Guest30609>
yeah
<Guest30609>
so I write this here and already change the channel?
<Guest30609>
thank you!
<Guest30609>
because it appears this: #kspmodders Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
<Alanonzander>
you need to register your nick, and identify for it to get into that channel.
<Alanonzander>
Google "nickserv" and see how that works.
<Guest30609>
okay, I will try it, thank you!
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<Althego>
lol nvidia update. took away the sound. turned out it set the default update to the monitor which doesnt have any actual output
<Althego>
output
<Althego>
not update
<XXCoder>
wow what a ness over there at freenode
<XXCoder>
staff just did more hosile takeovers of channels
<jgkamat>
they closed all channels with "libera" in the title afaik
<XXCoder>
yeah
<jgkamat>
why they closed them instead of changing the topic back is beyond my understanding
<XXCoder>
freenode news basically says you cannot close channel period
<XXCoder>
it must stay open
<XXCoder>
ironic that they are closing em...
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<Althego>
is there a lunar eclipse tuday?
<Althego>
today
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<raptop>
Althego: yes, however it's not visible in europe
<raptop>
Presumably hololive-jp and hololive-id can see it
<Althego>
but they are stuck in front of a compute
<Mat2ch>
XXCoder: just shows that moving away from Freenode was the right choice.
<XXCoder>
yeah
<XXCoder>
Mat2ch: whats funny it included channels with topic like "discussion on freenode and libera"
<XXCoder>
way to help the discussoon.. lol
<Mat2ch>
Choices made easy...
<XXCoder>
freenode just apologized
<XXCoder>
seems they undid the changes? dunno
<XXCoder>
dont care have moved on
<Mat2ch>
I mean, wreaking havoc is a good way to build trust!
<Mat2ch>
I'm waiting for two channels to decide to move. One is Freecad.
<XXCoder>
yeah
<XXCoder>
freecad and inkscape is closely related
<XXCoder>
inkscape is now on move soon
<Mat2ch>
Nice. In Freecad it seems only the bot is missing. But that should be easy to change. Just change the server in its config and restart...
<XXCoder>
basically
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<Mat2ch>
XXCoder: for carpentry moving parts could help, when modelling doors for cabinets to see if the fit
<XXCoder>
freecad do have that feature
<XXCoder>
never used it'
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<Mat2ch>
XXCoder: oh, funny, I wrote in the wrong channel :D
<Mat2ch>
I'm confused...
<XXCoder>
lol
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, what is freecad
<minas_tirith>
Does it calculate forces, moments, tensions etc
<minas_tirith>
Can it model the real materials well
<minas_tirith>
Mat2ch, what is freecad
<minas_tirith>
Does it help with screws and gears?
<Mat2ch>
It's a CAD software application that lets you design stuff
<Mat2ch>
and it is open source
<Mat2ch>
free and open source, to be precise.
<XXCoder>
its not as amazing as pro software, but its zero cist
<XXCoder>
cost
<minas_tirith>
Ok but what is a cad
<XXCoder>
0.20 should be pretty good
<XXCoder>
oh computer assisted design
<minas_tirith>
yeah full forms are easy to google
<minas_tirith>
but what does it actually do
<XXCoder>
you model something in it. like a wheel or machine part etc
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, will it calculate stresses, moments, etc
<minas_tirith>
does it have good modelling of existing materials such as friction coefficients, tensile strengths etc
<minas_tirith>
elasticity and so on too
<minas_tirith>
ie of the important mechanical and physical properties
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, have you made things you invented inside freecad?
<minas_tirith>
How much did the actual item differ from the mathematical models?
<XXCoder>
yeah. well differences is result of creation
<XXCoder>
not model itself
<XXCoder>
for example 3d printer can make part slightly thicker and taller
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, does it show you how much force and stress is there at each points of the object
<XXCoder>
and holes theres something we call "polyholes"
<XXCoder>
theres finite analsys system
<XXCoder>
but i never used it
<minas_tirith>
yes fem
<minas_tirith>
Fem is important
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, how do you know how your machine performs without the fem etc?
<Mat2ch>
experience.
<XXCoder>
experence or broken parts lol
<XXCoder>
i dont make complex stuff
<Mat2ch>
but there are some crazy people doing crazy stuff in FreeCAD including FEM
<minas_tirith>
Mat2ch, experience is expensive
<minas_tirith>
Performing some math is cheap
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, what were you making
<minas_tirith>
What do you usually make
<Mat2ch>
minas_tirith: if you are doing it professionally then yes. But not for the stuff I do.
<XXCoder>
oh it varies by a lot. i recently made jokers and pegs game board
<minas_tirith>
Mat2ch, what do you do
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, oh okay
<minas_tirith>
Things are much easier without moving parts
<Mat2ch>
a few parts for 3d printing, nothing special and some cnc work
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, I was looking at the theory of screws, gears and linkages recently
<minas_tirith>
Mat2ch, where did you get a cnc
<Mat2ch>
Bought it. ;)
<Mat2ch>
Small table cnc router
<minas_tirith>
Mat2ch, rich
<XXCoder>
dont have to be
<Mat2ch>
Nah, the small ones are cheap
<XXCoder>
you can build one slowly across time
<Mat2ch>
around the cost of a better 3d printer
<minas_tirith>
Mat2ch, do they accept the f-codes or whatever its called
<XXCoder>
or buy one of those crap tiny cnc router for $100 lol
<Mat2ch>
g code
<XXCoder>
gcodes
<XXCoder>
you can have setup so linuxcnc controls cnc
<XXCoder>
or have martin and such. those is much lower quality than linuxcnc
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, machines are very expensive
<XXCoder>
youre picturing pro mnachines
<XXCoder>
those can be 100k or more
<XXCoder>
you can build one for thousand dollars
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, where do you get the right kinds of motors
<minas_tirith>
how do you accurately control them
<minas_tirith>
where did you get screw bars etc
<XXCoder>
nema43 is easy to get.
<XXCoder>
BOB (breakout board) and 3 tb6600s wont cross 100 dollars
<minas_tirith>
Is it strong enough to extrude the metals
<XXCoder>
extrude metal?
<minas_tirith>
Like cut away at a metal
<XXCoder>
ah mill metal
<XXCoder>
not really, you would use it for very weak alum at best
<minas_tirith>
Ok
<XXCoder>
my machine can mill alum, but not too great. overall, it cost me 1k
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, then what do you use it for if most metals are out of the question
<XXCoder>
wood
<minas_tirith>
Oh ok
<minas_tirith>
XXCoder, yes wood is a good idea
<minas_tirith>
Though I guess you can't use the wood much for making gears or screws
<minas_tirith>
How do you make gears and screws?
<Mat2ch>
For milling aluminium you need a better spindle than the regular ones you get for the cheap cnc mills. But after that it's all a matter of how fast you wanna go
<Mat2ch>
I could mill steel on my cnc router, but I'd have to go very very slow
<Mat2ch>
and do manual cooling and stuff.
<Mat2ch>
minas_tirith: you should watch Wintergatan :D
<minas_tirith>
Mat2ch, have you been able to make screws
<Mat2ch>
Martin makes gears out of wood
<Mat2ch>
it's a router, not a mill (mixed that up earlier)
<Mat2ch>
so no screws
<minas_tirith>
Ok
<minas_tirith>
Mat2ch, screws are important
<Mat2ch>
buying is cheaper and easier than making
<minas_tirith>
Mat2ch, where did you get screws for x-y movement
<minas_tirith>
Those long lead screw things
<Mat2ch>
ahhh, that's what you mean. It came with the kit I bought.
<Mat2ch>
tbh, the one picture looks like a space ship we would design.
<Mat2ch>
There's a ring around it
<Mat2ch>
and two "drives"?
<Mat2ch>
the real question is: Why don't the detect the radar from the planes? Or do they just not care at all?
<Mat2ch>
or... is radar so ancient to them that they don't scan for it?
<Mat2ch>
at 14:05 she says "like it's moving in its own space". And that is probably the solution. We have theories about this and call it "warp drive".
<Mat2ch>
if you can move the space around you than air doesn't matter, water doesn't matter, maybe even matter doesn't matter...
<Althego>
oh yes kuma kuma kuma bear
<Mat2ch>
maybe it's all about energy. So you need a certain amount of energy to "bend" stuff around you
<Mat2ch>
hm
<Mat2ch>
could be a secondary technology though
<Althego>
you want a kugelblitz powered spaceship? that is quite high tech from the point where we stand
<Althego>
it is almost like the romulan artificial black hole powered ships
<Mat2ch>
hrhr
<Althego>
that thing looks a bit romulan
<Mat2ch>
it does
<Mat2ch>
it looks like a camper, the old airstream, with a ring around it and two gondolas
<Mat2ch>
In my head I've tried to simulate a warp field that uses only two gondolas and not the whole ring
<XXCoder>
wouldnt know that, but cutting down pollution is great
<raptop>
"He said that 47% of regional aeroplane flights connect cities that are less than 230 miles (370km) apart,"
<raptop>
uh
<raptop>
That's driving distance
<raptop>
Or I guess if you're going to insist on something else, how's HS2 going?
<XXCoder>
yeah seems not everyone wants to drive
<raptop>
"The aircraft, which can take off and land from almost any flat surface, reached heights of 7,000ft (2,100m) and speeds of up to 50 knots (57mph) during its final tests. "
<raptop>
Oh
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<raptop>
This suggests that for the purposes of intercity travel it's competitive with... buses
<Alanonzander>
right
<raptop>
And in some cases amtrak, but that's amtrak
<XXCoder>
more flexability though and no traffic
<Alanonzander>
imagine delivery service landing on roof, for deliveries
<XXCoder>
and you get a view too
<Alanonzander>
no double parking
<raptop>
How are you getting to it/from it?
<Alanonzander>
yeah
<raptop>
Are you sure about the no traffic, given airspace regulations?
<raptop>
Can it actually do the flexible point to point that you're describing?
<XXCoder>
raptop: same ways you get to and away from buses, trains, short range planes
<raptop>
I'd expect to be operating out of normalish airports
<raptop>
XXCoder: I've actually given up on some attempts to use trains upon realizing that it would need to have long term parking at one end, and a family memeber would need to drive 10+ miles to pick me up at the other
<XXCoder>
yeah when live alone with no nearby friends or family makes it harder
<XXCoder>
true for anyone really
<raptop>
(The specific case I'm thinking of is Kansas City <--> Santa Fe)
<raptop>
Buses, uh, I never was able to use them when I lived in KC. I think the nearest stop was over a mile away?
<raptop>
Now in the DC area, I have used them, though been frequently let down by the system
<XXCoder>
yeah usa isnt much on bus :(
<raptop>
(What about the subway you ask? Well, it's nice when I can use it, but the nearest stop is ~3.2 miles away, and I've fallen between the cracks on buses fairly often)
<raptop>
Walking home from the station because I'm between buses or after the last bus is totally doable, and I've done so on I think at least 4 occasions
<XXCoder>
what is subway? ;)
<XXCoder>
never been in one
<raptop>
heavy rail intracity transit that for some reason is rarely standard gauge
<raptop>
typically underground near the city center
* raptop
is to be clear complaining primarily about WMATA and BART, though some rail systems in Pennsylvania probably also count
<XXCoder>
lol ok :)
<XXCoder>
sadly in west usa subs is pretty rare
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