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<Mat2ch>
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<Deddly>
I missed that. Where are they landing the boosters?
<SporkWitch>
ground landings
<SporkWitch>
should look like the dual-landing clip they usually show as the streams go live
<Deddly>
Interesting.
<Deddly>
I wonder how much extra Dv they could get with barge landings
<Althego>
dual landing video from the boosters with starlink
<Althego>
if they do that, oh boy
<SporkWitch>
while i've always been supportive of the idea of a Space Force as a sub-branch of the USAF (which is what they ended up doing, just as the Marines are under the Department of the Navy), it's still a bit cringe they decided to go with "guardians" as a generic title.
<Deddly>
That would be fun
<Deddly>
Well... I guess I inadvertently broke the "no politics" rule by linking to this stream
<Mat2ch>
only if we start discussing it.
<SporkWitch>
It's reasonable to assume that doing this launch and landing combination was the most cost effective overall. Barge might mean a little more ΔV, but a lot more work for recovery, and presumably the ΔV gain would be insufficient to allow recovery of the centre core.
<Deddly>
SporkWitch, that's what I was wondering. How much ΔV do they lose by not using the barges vs how much ΔV do they gain by not recovering the centre core?
<Mat2ch>
And when the satellite was planned FalconHeavy was probably not thought of as launch vehicle, so it is lighter than the maximum payload capacity, but too heavy for a regular F9.
<Mat2ch>
Deddly: you should write Scott Manley. He will make a video out of it. :D
<Deddly>
Heh
<Mat2ch>
And yes it is really sad he is not here anymore :(
<Deddly>
:(
<SporkWitch>
couldn't say exact numbers, only that we can reasonably make the assumptions I listed, since the loss of the centre core is expensive; if they could achieve the mission while recovering it, they would, even if it made recovery itself more expensive
<Deddly>
T-3 mins
<Deddly>
Undoubtedly as you say, SporkWitch. I'd love to know the margins, though
<Althego>
it is highly possible he makes a video of it regardless
<Althego>
under a minute
<Deddly>
I'd be surprised if he didn't
<Althego>
launching from souposphere
<SporkWitch>
what i'd be more curious to know is how many launches the centre core has had. I'd wager it's whatever current booster that had the most previous launches; if you're not getting it back, no sense using one with more reuses remaining
<Mat2ch>
wait, the center booster has no landing legs...
<SporkWitch>
it's not being recovered
<SporkWitch>
not enough ΔV if they saved fuel for landing it
<Mat2ch>
sad
<SporkWitch>
gotta get those spysats into those high geo orbits
<Althego>
arent spysats in a lowest possible orbit for maximum resolution?
<Mat2ch>
did the main booster just do a plane change?!
<Mat2ch>
Althego: Sometimes you want to be able to look at a place all the time...
<SporkWitch>
^
<Mat2ch>
maybe it's radio as well, not directly visuals
<Althego>
maybe during the descent the cameras will be claned by the air
<SporkWitch>
many military sats are multimission, as well
<Deddly>
Wow, that view of the booster from the other booster was awesome
<Mat2ch>
I really think they did a plane change there
<Althego>
also that zoom from the ground
<SporkWitch>
fun way to start the day heh
<Deddly>
Well, that was really cool
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<FLHerne>
Deddly: remember they'd need a third east coast barge for centre core recovery
<FLHerne>
even if the Δv adds up
<FLHerne>
and there isn't one
<Mat2ch>
How far would the center booster travel? Just land it somewhere on land... ;)
<FLHerne>
fairings are being recovered 1420km downrange
<FLHerne>
and fairing sep is shortly after MECO so should be fairly close
<FLHerne>
no conveniently-placed island
<FLHerne>
one does wonder about the 70° shell Starlink launches, and the descending-node 53° ones
<FLHerne>
in the former case the barge is 20 miles off the coast of Cuba
<FLHerne>
in the latter case it was literally in the middle of the Bahamas
<Deddly>
FLHerne, ah I didn't think about the lack of barges...
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