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<Thomas>
Sigma88: You could just add the option now, until the new Kopernicus isnt released it wont do anything and when it is released it will suddenly start working :D
<Kopernicus>
[Kopernicus] kayari75 opened issue #213: Kopernicus don't load on KSP 1.3 on Mac OS X https://git.io/v5RpL
<Kopernicus>
[Kopernicus] Sigma88 commented on issue #213: we will need some more information to understand what's going wrong in your install... https://git.io/v5RjJ
<Sigma88>
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<GregroxMun>
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<Sigma88>
lol
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<Sigma88>
so, when is the best moment to change the values?
<Sigma88>
SpaceCenter.Start() ?
<Thomas>
I already have all the code in Kopernicus, just set the value and wait for it. Or at least copy it completely :P
<Sigma88>
you have it integrated inside the whole latefixes thing
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<Sigma88>
meh too complicated to bother
<Sigma88>
I'll just add the line and screw those ppl that want to play now
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<GregroxMun>
If I use Kopernicus for the simulated Moon Mission I can make it look like some kind of living alien planet and the crewmembers can go on an EVA in our forested back yard wearing red goggles or something
<GregroxMun>
Thin red atmosphere, red plants, red everything!
<GregroxMun>
I really am not sure how to handle the EVA
<GregroxMun>
I don't want them to just stay in the ship
<GregroxMun>
but I don't have any way of simulating a lunar surface
<SigmaNomz>
they should do KSP VR
SigmaNomz is now known as Sigma88
<GregroxMun>
ABSOLUTELY THEY SHOULD
<GregroxMun>
I tried a Vive mod for the KSP when my dad's Vive was working and it was so awesome!
<Sigma88>
runs on a PC and sends the video to your smartphone
<GregroxMun>
That could work too I guess
<GregroxMun>
cheaper than a whole vive
<Sigma88>
and you use the google cardboard thing
<Sigma88>
or the samsung vr thing
<GregroxMun>
You'd need samsung vr
<GregroxMun>
bc cardboard has no sensors
<Sigma88>
does samsung have sensors?
<Sigma88>
you mean for the hands?
<GregroxMun>
It has head motion sensors
<Sigma88>
you mean 3D movement?
<Sigma88>
I assume the cardboard has the 360° sensors
<Sigma88>
which are integrated into the phone
<GregroxMun>
i dont know
<GregroxMun>
maybe im wrong
<GregroxMun>
you really need 3d translational movement to take full advantage of the vr
<GregroxMun>
it was so cool to be able to move my head forward and look at the controls in detail
<GregroxMun>
but I had to use mouse and keyboard for all controls
<Sigma88>
problem is it's impossible to distinguish between stationary and moving straight at constant speed
<GregroxMun>
an invisible mouse and keyboard
<GregroxMun>
it's impossible to distunguish those without sensor stations like more complicated Oculus and Vive systems have
<Sigma88>
well, not completely
<Sigma88>
you still have gps and wifi
<GregroxMun>
gps isn't high detail enough
<GregroxMun>
it's like meter scale or half meter scale, not millimeters or centimeters
<Sigma88>
yeah
<Sigma88>
but you can use a combination of all sensors and get pretty close I reckon
<Sigma88>
for example, a wifi antenna should not cost too much
<Sigma88>
and 3 should be enough to get a sense of where a person is
<Sigma88>
maybe 4
<GregroxMun>
at a certain point you're getting close to the cost of an actual vr headset in the near future
<Sigma88>
the problem with the current vr systems is the beacons are not very powerful
<Sigma88>
so you need a small room
<Sigma88>
at least this is what I heard from reviews
<GregroxMun>
not really small
<GregroxMun>
there's sit down and stand up vr
<GregroxMun>
in both cases you can get reasonably larger rooms
<GregroxMun>
but you dont need it in sit down vr
<GregroxMun>
so sit down is for when you dont HAVE large rooms
<Sigma88>
not my words, so I don't know what they mean by "small"
<Sigma88>
also, Vive was the only exception to that rule
<Sigma88>
and they argued vive is the most expensive for that exact reason
<Sigma88>
GregroxMun: do you plan to stream anything ksp in the future?
<GregroxMun>
no
<Sigma88>
:(
<GregroxMun>
but if i do it will be on youtube instead of twitch
<Sigma88>
oh
<Sigma88>
any reason?
<GregroxMun>
my streaming days are over that's all
<Sigma88>
oh, so you mean you will make VODs instead of live streams?
<Sigma88>
IF you will do anything
<GregroxMun>
no i mean if i do any more streaming it will be streamed on youtube as a streaming service
<GregroxMun>
livestreams are a thing on youtube
<Sigma88>
yes I know
<Sigma88>
that was my first assumption
<Sigma88>
but then you said your streaming days are over
<GregroxMun>
yeah but that wasn't a hard comment
<GregroxMun>
i may stream again
<GregroxMun>
but I'm no longer "a livestreamer"
<Sigma88>
dum-dum-dummmmm
<Sigma88>
unrelated question, is sister act going to be a main character in tng?
<GregroxMun>
what's sister act
<GregroxMun>
wait do you mean Whoopie Goldberg?
<Sigma88>
:D
<Sigma88>
yes
<GregroxMun>
Yeah!
<GregroxMun>
I mean no
<GregroxMun>
she's recurring
<Sigma88>
I always found her annoying
<Sigma88>
but I don't know if it's the actress or the character
<GregroxMun>
She basically begged the show runners to let her be on the show because star trek (Uhura specifically) made her career
<GregroxMun>
I like her character
<Sigma88>
I meant her character in sister act
<Sigma88>
wait, what does uhura have to do with woopie
<Sigma88>
'
<Sigma88>
?
<GregroxMun>
uhura was a black actress when black actresses were only ever maids
<GregroxMun>
but here she was on the bridge of a star ship as one of the important crew members
<Sigma88>
ah ok
<Sigma88>
for a moment I was like "wait, was she Uhura as well???"
<Sigma88>
I would like to work on a mod
<Sigma88>
but I have no ideas that tingle my creativity
<Sigma88>
GregroxMun: do you know if there are any set of kscswitcher locations for stock kerbin?
<Sigma88>
I am confused
<Sigma88>
I thought holodecks could simulate the dresses of people as well
<Sigma88>
oh god
<Sigma88>
there's a scene with laforge looking at a piece of paper upside down
<Sigma88>
I wonder if it's meant as a joke on the fact that he's blind
<Qboid>
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<GregroxMun>
they can simulate how clothes look, not how they feel