ferram4 changed the topic of #RO to: Welcome to the discussion channel for the Realism Overhaul (meta)mod for KSP! Realism Overhaul Main Thread https://goo.gl/wH7Dzb ! RO Spreadsheet http://goo.gl/Oem3g0 ! Code of Conduct http://goo.gl/wOSv2M ! | Maximal & soundnfury's RP-1 Race Into Space Signup: http://bit.ly/2DEVm2i [15:01] <soundnfury> Straight Eight Stronk (and) RP-0/1 is basically "Space Agency Spreadsheet Simulator"
<TheKosmonaut> NathanKell: you're not in that video on the new Valve site design are you? https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/ <background video
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<Rokker> Bornholio: i might go to the museum tomorrow to watch the plane fly in
<Rokker> for Memphis Belle unveiling
<Bornholio> lucky
<Rokker> planes
<Rokker> Bornholio: gonna be 3 B-17s, 3 P-51s and some trainers
<Rokker> and a ton of ground vehicles
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<Rokker> Bornholio: im in love with the F-84 now
<Rokker> the roll rate on this baby is just beautiful
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<Bornholio> rokker can it land https://imgur.com/gallery/K6VQkme
<Rokker> Bornholio: its takeoff is pretty impressive too
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<Bornholio> rokker this is my final question of the night https://i.imgur.com/Vf4BOac.jpg
<Rokker> Bornholio: psh duh
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<NathanKell> !tell rsparkyc no, no details have been released about the game we're working on, sorry. Also, great you're back, hope things are well!
<Qboid> NathanKell: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<NathanKell> also hi, I'm apparently non-AFK
<NathanKell> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
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<egg|zzz|egg> NathanKell: meow
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<BadRocketsCo> Hii
<Qboid> BadRocketsCo: soundnfury left a message for you in #RO [15.05.2018 22:04:41]: "nice indeed. What's next, Mars? Phobos? (Or have you done those already?)"
<BadRocketsCo> soundnfury: ya on?
<BadRocketsCo> .tell soundnfury I will probably try slingshoting around venus and then mars, and then back to earth
<BadRocketsCo> Nope
<BadRocketsCo> !tell soundnfury I will probably try an earth-venus-mars-earth flyby mission. Could probably get low above science on both, since my venus flyby was about 7500km high.
<Qboid> BadRocketsCo: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<Rokker> NathanKell: o/
<NathanKell> yo
<NathanKell> Rokker, you'll appreciate this
<NathanKell> I got to sit in an SR-71 trainer cockpit!
<Rokker> NathanKell: i dont dislike navy planes as much as i used to
<Rokker> also waaaaaat
<Rokker> neat
<BadRocketsCo> Ayy, NathanKell!
<NathanKell> Museum of Flight has it and an F-14 trainer pit
<NathanKell> Rokker: I'm glad you're evolving :P
<Rokker> NathanKell: nah, F-14 still sucks
<Rokker> as does the F-18
<NathanKell> So which did you evolve on?
<NathanKell> The Gutless Cutlass?
<Rokker> earlier stuff, F9F, F3D, F8F
<Rokker> etc
<NathanKell> F3H is purty
<Rokker> NathanKell: did you see my stuff since i went to pima or where you not around during that
<BadRocketsCo> My Apollo-Venus mission, in case someone hasn't seen it yet, heh https://imgur.com/a/a1GCg7y
<NathanKell> I was not, I think
<Rokker> NathanKell: it was one of the single most amazing experiences of my life for one big reason
<Rokker> i went in march
<Rokker> and march is when heritage flight does training at davis monthan next door
<NathanKell> BadRocketsCo: noice!
<NathanKell> Rokker: Ooooh!
<Rokker> so im standing among all these beautiful planes
<Rokker> watching F-86s and P-47s and F-22s fly over
<NathanKell> Lucky dog
<Rokker> so basically a free air show with my museum visit
<NathanKell> Goddamn them F11Fs are sexy
<NathanKell> Super Tiger was such a missed opportunity
<Rokker> that is true
<Rokker> NathanKell: lotta firsts for me at that museum
<Rokker> planes i cant see here in dayton
<Rokker> mostly cause they are navy
<Rokker> or foreign
<NathanKell> Ooh, they had an FH!
<Rokker> i need to go back
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<Rokker> NathanKell: my dad forced me to only spend 3 hours there
<Rokker> not enough time at all
<BadRocketsCo> Heh, it's kinda cute to see you guys geeking out
<NathanKell> That's cruel!
<Rokker> NathanKell: this is probably my single favorite photo https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aaUe3diUebzcq0bnY_l04PeCdWXxGwJf/view?usp=sharing
<Rokker> P-47, P-40, A-10 over the YC-14
<NathanKell> Ultrasabre!
<Rokker> NathanKell: also the 787 was a real treat
<NathanKell> Yeah that's a heck of a shot :]
<Rokker> NathanKell: eh, F-107 was alright
<Rokker> we have one here
<Rokker> NathanKell: the 107 at the museum is the one with the famous zippo story
<Rokker> at the air force museum
<NathanKell> :D
<Rokker> which happened on that very flight to the museum
<BadRocketsCo> I have a relative in the US who flew a F-4 Phantom during the vietnam war
<Rokker> NathanKell: the RA-5 was a real treat
<Rokker> BadRocketsCo: for the air force or the boring navy
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<BadMobileRockets> Silly internet
<NathanKell> Rokker: I loved the proposed fighter variant of the A-5
<NathanKell> Well, interceptor
<Rokker> NathanKell: i prefer the fighter variant it was based off of
<Rokker> or the fighter it was based off rather
<Rokker> the Rapier
<NathanKell> Well, yeah, obvs.
<Rokker> the compliment to the Valkyrie
<Rokker> NathanKell: oh, you wanna realize something i figured out about a specific view at the NMUSAF
<NathanKell> And it sorta lived on in NAR's VFX proposal
<NathanKell> ah?
<Rokker> NathanKell: lemme find the pic
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<Rokker> NathanKell: in this picture are 9 vehicles that broke mach 1, 4 broke mach 3, 2 broke mach 6 and one broke mach 32 (technically) https://i.imgur.com/vDscQZ8.jpg
<Rokker> like some of the most insane technological achievements in human history are in that photo
<Rokker> and i love it
<NathanKell> :)
<NathanKell> That's pretty awesome, indeed
<Rokker> NathanKell: anyways within the last year ive visited 2 new aerospace museums, Pima and Kalamazoo and its really made me wanna travel and visit them all down to the tiniest little museum
<Rokker> cause they all got cool unique stuff
<Rokker> and with that
<Rokker> i must go to bed, i got planes to watch fly in 8 hours from now
<NathanKell> Rokker: Well, lemme know when you hit up the MoF!
<NathanKell> And cheers!
<Rokker> i will
<Rokker> NathanKell: its Memphis Belle unveiling week at the museum so they are flying in 3 B-17s, 3 P-51s and a few trainer planes
<NathanKell> sweet!
<NathanKell> Not much of a Fort fan, but P-51s 4eva
<BadMobileRockets> Oh, WW2 aircrafts are what I love!
<Rokker> NathanKell: eh, B-17s won the war
<Rokker> more than most other planes at least
<NathanKell> More than Jugs?
<NathanKell> I'd say it's shared, there
<Rokker> NathanKell: well the jugs would have had a lot more work to do if the german industry was still running at full capacity
<NathanKell> True, very true
<BadMobileRockets> Rokker: What about the Halifax?
<NathanKell> Lanc, sure, but the Halifax!?
<BadMobileRockets> Err, confused the two actualy...
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<NathanKell> :]
<Rokker> eh, at the end of the day american bombing was simply more effective
<Rokker> cause daylight bombing
<BadMobileRockets> True. But didn't the brits drop more on germany?
<Rokker> also that sweet sweet norden bombsight
<Rokker> you can drop as much as you want
<NathanKell> Also the Lanc was ugly as heck, sorry.
<Rokker> if you arent hitting anything important it doesnt matter
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<NathanKell> By the end Bomber Command was getting pretty accurate tho
<Rokker> NathanKell: the PB4Y-2 at Pima was good to see btw, but god damn is it an ugly plane
<Rokker> beautiful in an ugly way
<NathanKell> hehe
<BadMobileRockets> Swordfish was the best aircraft of WW2.
<NathanKell> Swordfish was the best aircraft of WW1.
<Rokker> Storch best aircraft of WW2
<NathanKell> You could blow at it and it'd take off, for both of 'em
<Rokker> NathanKell: also thats something that is annoying me, idk what the hell the museum has done with the storch
<Rokker> they took it down for the Belle and they havent put it anywhere else in the museum
<Rokker> anyways
<Rokker> bed
<Rokker> goodnight
<NathanKell> o/
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<TheKosmonaut> NathanKell: I was thinking, recreate Children of a dead earth, within the KSP mission Dlc
<Rokker> TheKosmonaut: what if you recreate both KSP and CoDE but in the form of a good game
<Rokker> CoaDE
<TheKosmonaut> That would be better
<BadMobileRockets> Rokker: haha, ouch
<TheKosmonaut> Dunno how well KSP could handle 50+ Nukes either
<NathanKell> TheKosmonaut: yo!
<BadMobileRockets> TheKosmonaut: about as well as it handles anything that does something non-stock, heh
<TheKosmonaut> NathanKell: ahoy
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<TheKosmonaut> Well KSP didn't like physics at speeds approaching ludicrous speed
<NathanKell> Night all!
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<soundnfury> NathanKell|AFK: yeah, you'd better hide >:(
<Qboid> soundnfury: BadRocketsCo left a message for you in #RO [16.05.2018 04:42:14]: "I will probably try an earth-venus-mars-earth flyby mission. Could probably get low above science on both, since my venus flyby was about 7500km high."
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<Rokker> Bornholio: bombers have yet to land
<Rokker> I'm beginning to think B-17s are in fact stealth bombers
<Rokker> delayed until 10:30
<Rokker> booo
<Rokker> Bornholio: no landing
<Rokker> flyover onmy
<Rokker> only
<Rokker> today
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<Rokker> Bornholio: this was the sloppiest yet most beautiful flyover I've ever seen https://youtu.be/QFKDWHQcB8E
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<Rokker> !tell Nathankell https://i.imgur.com/NTl7NnZ.jpg
<Qboid> Rokker: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
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<Starwaster> balsa wood was once considered as insulation for LH2 tanks but it couldn't be produced in sufficient quantities for the space program so we went with polyurethane foam instead
<ProjectThoth> Starwaster: IIRC, they commented that in making the insulation, they just wanted to produce artificial balsa.
<ProjectThoth> On another note, why did we go with external insulation for the Shuttle?
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<Starwaster> projectthoth I don't know. But an engineer with the shuttle program commented at one point that he was unaware that Saturn had used internal insulation at any point
<ProjectThoth> Starwaster: Interesting. I seem to recall that internal insulation was a big deal for the S-IV/S-IVB.
<Starwaster> one benefit was less boiloff loss during initial loading since the foam was less conductive and had less thermal mass
<Bornholio> rokker assume you were able to view directly
<Bornholio> commercial aerogel (fiber reinfoced is my choice of really good insulation aboout 4 times better than PE and now readilly available
<Bornholio> not nearly as good as the lab stuff but i can buy it
<ProjectThoth> Bornholio: The granulated stuff is pretty cool, honestly.
<Bornholio> https://www.mcmaster.com/#insulation/=1cved12 yes but this i can buy, also in large amounts on rolls
<ProjectThoth> Fascinating.
<ProjectThoth> Praise be unto aerogel.
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