egg|principia|egg changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspmooders | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | <SilverFox> "little" doesn't seem like a real word to me right now
<SilverFox>
manhwa?
<Greys>
ok so go to the naver link, and browse
<SilverFox>
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
<SilverFox>
i dont know the korean word for browse
<SilverFox>
the end says: "yong shik-ah, was liked"
<SilverFox>
but not in the english sense. translated it would be: "Yong Shik, you were liked."
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<G-Mobile>
Geeeenop
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<SilverFox>
d20 + 2
<Soozee>
SilverFox: 6 + 2 => 8
<SilverFox>
aight
<SilverFox>
d20 --should I get this choa pillow
<Soozee>
SilverFox: 17
<SilverFox>
darn
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<G-Mobile>
Maybe optoisolators
<G-Mobile>
i have those
<G-Mobile>
Hyratel: do opto-isolators operate proportionally, digitally, or with some non-linear curve?
<Hyratel>
LED-threshold and then I think proportionally. but that's not my specialty, usually they're used for digital signals
<G-Mobile>
Mmm, then probably not
<Hyratel>
they turn on "enough" with the LED threshold to drive the recieving transitor, and then that's either fed into an amplifying discrete transistor, or used directly on a digital input
<G-Mobile>
so any idea how to mix two analog signals without exposing the signal sources to each other?
<SilverFox>
arduino?
<G-Mobile>
Thats going to have a very poor result
<Hyratel>
use two op-amps into a voltage divider
<Hyratel>
each set as a voltage follower
<Hyratel>
a voltage divider will weighted-average each signal based on the divider proportion
<Hyratel>
and then a trailing op-amp will buffer the tiny output
<Hyratel>
follow with a power amplifier
<G-Mobile>
what purpose does the divider serve?
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<SilverFox>
is a signal average what Greys wants
<SilverFox>
?
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<Hyratel>
G-Mobile, do you want to average two or more signals?
<SilverFox>
I presumed she wanted two signals in, one out, so that you can hear both at the same time
<Hyratel>
that is what will happen. two signals, when averaged instantaneously, can both be heard
<G-Mobile>
amazingly, silver is right
<Hyratel>
that's how mixers worh
<Hyratel>
work
<Hyratel>
that's how SOUND works
<Hyratel>
it will generate a blended signal that through the Fucking Magic signal processing of the human brain, can be deconstructed into the constituent signals
<G-Mobile>
if I don't specifically need to make a ratio between them, is the divider necessary?
<G-Mobile>
generally more impedence in audio circuits is undesirable
<Hyratel>
there will always be a ratio
<Hyratel>
even if that ratio is 1:1
<G-Mobile>
right so if 1:1 is fine, do I need the divider
<Hyratel>
yes
<G-Mobile>
then I'm not sure what the divider is achieving
<Hyratel>
opamps are not my specialty. I'm just pulling tou what little i remember of them
<Hyratel>
out
<G-Mobile>
well, the opamps will have a voltage divider on their control line I think; check more tomorrow; but if I'm understanding you the divider is between the two opamps and the common output
<Hyratel>
yes
<G-Mobile>
the opamp's control divider I think sets the scale of the feedback
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<G-Mobile>
Where does the signal input on an opamp ground?
<Hyratel>
what
<Hyratel>
Opamps are high impedance
<G-Mobile>
The signal has to ground eventually right?
<G-Mobile>
Otherwise it wouldnt flow anywhere
<Hyratel>
ground is for complete circuits
<Hyratel>
your reference points are external to the signal path
<G-Mobile>
opamps are self contained circuits with only so many exposed contacts, this diagram indicates two points as grounded, what pin is ground in this situation
<Hyratel>
I don't know
<G-Mobile>
a lot of opamp pinouts do not have a designated ground pin; some do, this may be a failing of the pinout diagram
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<G-Mobile>
is there a difference between V- and the concept of a ground?
<xShadowx>
when using only 2 source connections, G + V+ = V- + G = V- + V+
<xShadowx>
though many electronics using simply G/V- and V+ also use voltage dividers to create what it considers to be G for its uses
<xShadowx>
and AC ofc uses G and the other V+ to V- to V+ to V- lala
<Hyratel>
yes
<Hyratel>
however, many circuits operate as unipolar, so V- and Gnd are congruent
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<SilverFox>
ayyyy got the master sword
<SilverFox>
takes fucking 13 hearts to get
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<Greys>
does it shoot balls?
<SilverFox>
yesterday I learned there are two more ways of saying the same verb in korean
<SilverFox>
there are too many ways of saying the exact same thing
<SilverFox>
this has taught me as consequence to only pay attention to roots
<SilverFox>
and then honorifics, cause those are kind of important
<angavrilov>
I have some doubts it is really all exact same thing
<angavrilov>
because if it is really so, why are there multiple ways to say it
<angavrilov>
and it being the same thing in english doesn't mean it really is the same
<SilverFox>
so I will give examples, some are different because honorifics, some are just different because idk, no one has been able to give me a reason
<SilverFox>
싶다, 싶어, 싶어요, 싶습니다, <-(honorifics). 싶은데, 싶은데요, <- (different way of saying it, with no given difference so far), 싶어료, 싶어죠 <- (regular conjugation, different way of saying the same honorific), 싶은데료, 싶은데죠 (using different style honorific on ways before)
<SilverFox>
all of those have the same stem 싶다, which means "to want"
<GlsFrg|phone>
SilverFox: over time, you will come to instinctively understand that bs
<SilverFox>
hopefully
<SilverFox>
because it just makes my life harder
<angavrilov>
all those symbols mean nothing to me
<GlsFrg|phone>
that's how I learned most of my higher level english
<SilverFox>
I understand honorifics, but then you add in different ways of saying the same honorifics and im like "mmmmmm" and then you add another set of ways of saying the same verb and it's like "mkay this is just excessive now"
<SilverFox>
because I listed what, 8 different ways of writing the same verb
<SilverFox>
aw fuck another one from a commercial
<GlsFrg|phone>
and if I think back over the last one and half years (which I do a lot because I've got two more days at this school and one of them is the graduation ceremony), I've often found myself using words and grammar that I didn't get despite explanation just a month before
<SilverFox>
싶네
<SilverFox>
9 ways
<SilverFox>
ohp, looks like 요 applies to that too
<SilverFox>
so that's 10
<SilverFox>
ohp, another one, 싶어서
<SilverFox>
and you can add 요 to that one too, so that's now 12
<SilverFox>
you will not learn this language by memorization of all this shit
<GlsFrg|phone>
you will not learn fucking anything by memorization only
<SilverFox>
right, but there's no way I can memorize all this shit at this stage
<SilverFox>
12 ways per verb
<GlsFrg|phone>
learn what you can understand, get practice, the rest will come
<GlsFrg|phone>
if you know one way you know enough to speak
<SilverFox>
at least korean poetry will be easier to write, given all the different syllablry for a given verb
<SilverFox>
GlsFrg|phone, how have you been handling japanese handwriting?
<GlsFrg|phone>
I can write kana and common kanji
<SilverFox>
I meant reading it
<GlsFrg|phone>
not much difference to printing really
<SilverFox>
well at least there's that, I've been having troubles correlating the written characters to the ones of hangeul
<SilverFox>
hangeul seems so rigid and is easy to handwrite on its own, but they find creative ways of making it look like a river
<SilverFox>
which when given a character set that is rigid, it becomes a challenge to match flowing characters to their rigid counterparts
<GlsFrg|phone>
am I still connected
<GlsFrg|phone>
seems like no
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<SilverFox>
you were
<Glass|phone>
lol
<Greys>
good irc clients let you /ping
<Glass|phone>
I don't have an internet connection set up at my new place yet so I've been straining my phone data a bit
<SilverFox>
okay so lets say you have two connections, one's a 10Mb and the other is a 100Mb, you send 1KB of data down the line, is it faster in the 100Mb connection, or is it both the same travel speed?
<Glass|phone>
the 100Mb might actually be slower
<Glass|phone>
as it could be configured for volume, not speed
<SilverFox>
I see
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<SilverFox>
Glass|phone, how do you deal with the change of sentence structure and having a string of subjects, then a string of objects, then a string of verbs in reverse order?
<SilverFox>
because so far with korean, this shit fucks with me
<Glass|phone>
I never had the slughtest issue with that
<SilverFox>
I see
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<SilverFox>
like right off the bat you could understand it just fine and it wa just a matter of learning the words?
<SilverFox>
with english, everything is serial, for the most part, however in korean, it's all nested
<SilverFox>
I may or may not have found a korean Dr.Oz
<Greys>
what would be the worst TLD
<SilverFox>
.com.ca.st
<Greys>
that's not a TLD
<RandomJeb>
.broadway
<RandomJeb>
actually when I think about it, .helsinki
<RandomJeb>
they're about as bad in most instances but helsinki is a little finnish city that people outside of northern europe has never heard of
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<Greys>
americans have heard of it
<Greys>
why doesn't wikipedia give cities an In Media section
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<Greys>
why doesn't neosporin come in a syringe
<Greys>
like thermal paste
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<SilverFox>
RandomJeb, I've heard of helsinke before
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<Greys>
where does heat result from in a transistor
<kmath_>
YouTube - The World's Best Mathematician (*) - Numberphile
<SilverFox>
neat
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<Greys>
Majiir, if the lottery decided to add a prize, half as likely as the jackpot, that was a box of wasps, how would that change your interest in buying a lottery ticket?
<Majiir>
None whatsoever
<Greys>
you would have no interest, or you have no interest and would continue to have no interest?
<Majiir>
Are those options different?
<Greys>
probably
<SilverFox>
"I got this because it looked so stupid." -my parents