egg|principia|egg changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspmooders | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | <SilverFox> "little" doesn't seem like a real word to me right now
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<Greys>
Majiir, how much would somebody have to pay you to take a job as boring as datacenter technician
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<Majiir>
Am I allowed to do hobbies at this job?
<Majiir>
What are the hours like?
<Majiir>
Can I wear headphones?
<Majiir>
Can I bring my own computer equipment?
<Greys>
you can
<Greys>
10pm-10am
<Greys>
5 days this week two days next week repeat
<Greys>
most of the time you work 2 days in a row, then get two days off, sometimes you work/don'twork 3 days in a row
<Majiir>
Do I have to work weekends?
<Greys>
every other weekend will be a 3 day span of shifts; which means the rest of them are not
<Majiir>
So I get a few days off regularly, but never like 5 at a time and I don't have any days that I consistently get off
<Majiir>
And I can bring my own workstation into work and wear headphones? as long as I'm available for work when it's needed
<Majiir>
And since this is a datacenter, I assume I could get pretty fast internet
<Majiir>
Let's assume the location is the same as my current job, to control for that
<Majiir>
I would dislike the commute since it's >2 hours added to an already long work day
<Majiir>
I would enjoy the fast interwebs and some hobby time
<Majiir>
The biggest issue is how it would look on a resume to go from tech lead to datacenter technician -- doesn't bode well for future jobs, so the hobbies would need to stand on their own
<Majiir>
I'd probably do it for $250K
<Majiir>
+4 weeks vaca
<Majiir>
This is an unfair question because I currently have a job
<teabot>
Questeaon.
<SilverFox>
inb4 greys making 64k
<Majiir>
If we assume that I am fired as of now
<Majiir>
then the number goes way down, for any hypothetical you throw at me
<Majiir>
Like I'd easily take that job for half that much since I could do a software job-hunt while on the job as a 'hobby'
<Majiir>
though at that point you are competing with a vacation to Korea
<Majiir>
Decision-making is weird
<Majiir>
My current job doesn't have many perks aside from compensation -- that *is* the perk
<Majiir>
so most jobs by comparison are going to look weird
<Majiir>
That number also goes way down if the job is, say, a 5 minute walk from my apartment
<Majiir>
It goes waaaaaaay down if it's a 5 minute walk from Myeongdong
<Majiir>
Price goes up again if there are not ample Dunkin Donuts nearby
<Greys>
I haven't tested the internet, I don't have a mobile rig so I'm using a macbook air provided
<Greys>
SilverFox, what makes you think I'd make that much
<SilverFox>
random guess
<Majiir>
Hmmmmmm
<Majiir>
Guessing time
<Greys>
well, you're off by 100%
<Majiir>
100% of Silverfox is wrong
<Greys>
always
<Majiir>
How far off is $33.6K on a logarithmic scale
<Greys>
my best chance to turn this into a career that good is to become half as competent as the network engineer at being a network engineer
<Majiir>
Systems engineer = maintaining VMs, software deployments, configuration, diagnosing issues in production, etc
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<Majiir>
In my view: networking and systems engineering requires some base level of knowledge, but that's a level of knowledge that's much easier to obtain in a short timeframe than a lot of other jobs
<Greys>
we have a very small selection of own-hosting stuff that's about a quarter " 'cloud' " and the rest fairly uncompetitive VPS; the rest is colo
<Majiir>
The ops guys don't really appreciate that view, but my DM and I are pretty convinced of it
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<Greys>
we have one linux guy, I don't see that we will need another any time soon, and linux is really broad so becoming good at it is vague and huge
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<Majiir>
Keep feelers out for other jobs
<Majiir>
I said something about potentially getting fired the other day
<Majiir>
(for not participating in fantasy sports)
<Majiir>
(our CEO is weird)
<Majiir>
and my DM remarked that getting fired would be great for me
<Majiir>
because I could go get another job, and jobhopping = raise
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<Greys>
we have a network guru and he's great; plus the company is about 90% cooling and power, 9% networks, 1% other shit
<Majiir>
It's more true for software, but I wouldn't discount the possibility
<Majiir>
Is network guru a good person? Likeable, easy to converse with?
<Greys>
so becoming good at network shit is easily a field they would value growing people into
<Greys>
yes
<Greys>
you can't make him stop talking, and you usually don't want to
<Majiir>
Make him your mentor, sounds like a great situation
<SilverFox>
mentiir
<Greys>
I'll be alone on the night shift until they hire another person and expand my hours into some morning shift; so for now I'm on my own
<Majiir>
If he's passionate about what he does, throw bullshit hypotheticals at him until something sticks
<Greys>
I lack a cliff to throw hypotheticals from
<Greys>
networking is one of the weakest suits I can claim to have
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<Majiir>
Then just confess
<Greys>
one time I took two routers with DD-WRT on them, and set them up in a cascade for reasons
<Majiir>
"I want to learn networking and you know what you're doing."
<Greys>
I'm going to have 8 hours alone every day next week, and I'll only really be expected to do things every 2-4 hours
<Greys>
I should obtain reading materials
<SilverFox>
"senpai notice me"
<Supernovy>
Majuuuuu~~~~!
<SilverFox>
obtain a nintendo switch
<Greys>
that's in consideration
<Majiir>
Our juniors don't ask for help enough
<SilverFox>
ew
<Majiir>
There are two of them now, so they just pair up and try and figure stuff out on their own
<SilverFox>
why
<Majiir>
which is good
<Majiir>
except when they are chasing an issue for 4 hours
<Greys>
first pay check is spent, second paycheck is half spent, third pay check is half spent; I want to get new monitors and now there is value in me owning a nice laptop
<Majiir>
and they hadn't figured out that they can't find the HTTP headers in the TCP stream because it was over SSL
<Greys>
I looked at macbook pros; the one I would buy is 3k$
<Majiir>
Greys, I bought a nice laptop for work and it was a tarp
<SilverFox>
why buy a macbook tho?
<Greys>
it's a mac office
<Majiir>
You could be that one with a Surface who turns it into a Surface office
<Majiir>
Heck for that much money you could buy two Surfaces and give one to mentor
<Greys>
and having used a macbook air for the last week, I can really appreciate the design concepts in a laptop environment
<Greys>
the only problem is that because this is a community laptop, I'm not comfortable installing software or tricking it out in fancy ways
<Majiir>
Try a VM?
<SilverFox>
usb?
<Greys>
like, the finder is permanently in the dock, and I have never used it for anything
<Greys>
you can edit a file in a place to add the button to remove it; but that can cause weirditude
<Greys>
I'd also love a less air-sized machine in general; an glasses
<Greys>
17" macbook pro would be sweet in a lot of ways, 15" probably makes more sense
<Majiir>
Fuck You Money is also a good goal
<Greys>
also I need a new phone and the android ecosystem is doing little to convince me of it's value
<Majiir>
(i.e. enough savings to be able to tell your boss to fuck off without thinking about it)
<Greys>
I like my boss
<Greys>
I like everybody
<Majiir>
They might change
<Greys>
I'm not feuding with anyone
<Majiir>
Circumstances might change
<Majiir>
Some investors might buy your company and require that everyone use Blackberry and wear hardhats
<Greys>
so back into useful territory, do you know of a good book to go from "I put DD-WRT in a router once" to "I can configure fancy routers from the command line and have any idea what's going on"
<Majiir>
I don't know of a book, but I do know of a way to get that knowledge
<Majiir>
Set up a virtualized network lab
<Greys>
I could live with hardhats, and we don't use our phones for much related to work
<Majiir>
Try VyOS, it has an easy declarative configuration and there are lots of resources on how to configure it and how it works
<Greys>
the entire company is nerds who don't want to be on the phone when they could be using text
<Greys>
we have an IRC.
<Majiir>
but it also exposes the reality of networking to you, not the happy illusion of home routers and DD-WRT
<Majiir>
(DD-WRT is powerful compared to consumer software, but it still gives you the same kind of limited networking as a regular consumer router.)
<Majiir>
Set up some VyOS VMs and maybe some other VMs and get routing working, try VPNs, try firewalls, etc etc etc
<Greys>
if they issued me a blackberry, it would change little; I would have a blackberry in a pocket, and my phone in another pocket
<Greys>
how light are these VMs?
<Majiir>
I think you could easily run them on 512MB RAM each
<Majiir>
possibly less
<Greys>
I'm going to have the macbook air and an 2010~11 imac to play with
<Majiir>
You don't care about performance for a networking lab
<Majiir>
so it just has to fit
<Greys>
until next month when I can VPN home and run it on this computer
<Majiir>
You could try running a CentOS VM with a little easy web server (like nginx) and then some routing VMs and see if you can set up all the infrastructure for a trivial website (like a single image)
<Majiir>
Stuff like SSL, VLANs, web server config.... get enough of those things at basic levels of competency and you're qualified as a junior systems engineer
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<Greys>
sweet storm bro
<Greys>
I revoke that compliment storm, you sucked
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<Greys>
this is better, but can you sust-- no, you can't
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<Majiir>
I miss cool storms
<Majiir>
There was one summer where I had nothing to do and it was just thundering and showering and warm and breezy all day long
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<Majiir>
seemed like every day
<SilverFox>
go to seattle
<Greys>
seattle's cool and all except it's in the pascific time zone, and is full of snails
<Majiir>
and full of people who live in Seattle
<Greys>
that one you can ignore
<Greys>
just get a house that's not close, but close enough for grocery delivery services
<Majiir>
But there are many places I could do that that I'll probably like more than Seattle
<Greys>
sure but few that have better stormy weather
<Greys>
also specifically the grocery delivery thing, many may be an exageration
<Majiir>
Likely true
<Majiir>
Fortunately, I don't mind driving, especially if it's in a less populated place
<Greys>
sure, but if you drive in seattle, you'll end up in somewhere with seattlations
<Majiir>
Yeah. Unacceptable risk.
<Greys>
amazon should invest in self driving horses
<Majiir>
Horses are generally self driving
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<Greys>
then why do they need a driver?
<Majiir>
They don't. They can just optionally have one, similar to a self-driving car.
<darklight>
Horses are dumb as fuck but that is only because they had to evolve only to the point where they stick their mouth down and do a generic chomping motion
<SilverFox>
jrh;nbr
<SilverFox>
thats their evolutionary path
<Supernovy>
selective breeding
<darklight>
They only respond to one thing, food :P
<Greys>
and cucumber
<SilverFox>
and penis
<Greys>
penis are just man made cucumber
<darklight>
I don't think it is wise to try and follow in mr hands footsteps.
<Greys>
mr hands attacked from the rear
<SilverFox>
got flanked in the rear
<darklight>
And died
<Greys>
so imagine what would have happened if a horse ate his cucumber
<darklight>
Horses are herbivores :P
<Greys>
so are cucumbers
<Greys>
what does "time is a flat circle" mean
<darklight>
*shrugs*, but time is wibbly wobbly, timey whimey, stuff.
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<Glass|phone>
time is a cube
<Greys>
a flat cube
<Majiir>
FOUR SIMULTANEOUS 24-HOUR DAYS
<inktop>
MUCH
<inktop>
how do i capitlaize on this with no talent
<Greys>
step 1, set yourself on fire
<Majiir>
SilverFox has no talent. Basically an expert at that.
<Greys>
step 2, set your self on water
<Greys>
step 3, set your self on earth
<inktop>
i would like the klingon honor code more if it wrent so french
<Greys>
step 5, the fifth dimension is love
<inktop>
phasers dont do that
<SilverFox>
you called for an expert?
<SilverFox>
what is it we're capitalizing?
<SilverFox>
4 days at once?
<inktop>
way more female russian pilots than female ukranian
<Greys>
in nebraska maybe
<Greys>
#nebraskadon'treal
<Majiir>
I'm not drunk enough for this shit
<Majiir>
I don't think I've ever been drunk enough for this shit
<SilverFox>
you're speaking nonsense, dont waste an expert's time
<SilverFox>
I have BotW to catch up on
<inktop>
idga basketball unless giannis does some crazy shit
<SilverFox>
Majiir, we should reach that level then
<SilverFox>
same
<inktop>
otherwise its all the same
<Majiir>
I need plane tickets
<Majiir>
I need to go to Sorry America this summer for a wedding
<SilverFox>
we'll fuckin set yer white house on fire again
<inktop>
i have a french cousin who checks the box scores every morning but when i visited him we only played soccer and i was always the goalie and the moroccans were the opposing team and this led me to believe my cousin was fucking with me
<Majiir>
and I need to go to a C4U and pick up some cheap kimbap
<Majiir>
so gonna need a flight for that
<inktop>
i did play goalie and caugh many basketballs to the face in the interim
<SilverFox>
c4U?
<darklight>
Majiir: How on earth do you handle the fox of silverness
<Majiir>
I don't
<SilverFox>
easy
<SilverFox>
you dont
<Majiir>
Restraining orders help in close quarters
<inktop>
if the god doesnt issue you an ultimatum before u leave ur not done
<Greys>
would it be OP for a rogue to have a dagger sheath that when a dagger is removed from it, still has a dagger in it
<darklight>
I've been parting lately but I don't want to leave greys behind :P
<Majiir>
Greys, yes, too easy to throw daggers that way
<Greys>
the knives disappear when they're 15 feet from the rogue
<Majiir>
Reasonable
<inktop>
wonder what pregnancy jobs at 80 weeeks look like oh it s just a fertilizer factory
<Majiir>
Also reasonable would be that this sheath holds a finite, but not limited, number of daggers
<Greys>
is inktop a markov?
<Majiir>
so you'd have to actually buy and sheath 20 daggers
<inktop>
no
<Greys>
that's what a markov would say
<Majiir>
inktop, Monad m => m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b
<inktop>
greys are you a poverty tourist
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<Greys>
that is also what a markov would say
<SilverFox>
hyratel is still op btw
<Greys>
you say that like it's a negative situation
<darklight>
Obviously greys should be glorious leader
<SilverFox>
i do not
<SilverFox>
greys has an op allergy
<darklight>
I know
<darklight>
But greys should give in
<SilverFox>
physically dies when opped
<darklight>
Even lactose intolerant people will drink milk and stuffer the concequences
<Hyratel>
Majiir, so there can be up to 10 daggers, up to 15 feet from the rogue, but they despawn when that distance is exceded?
<Greys>
this dagger would require too many polies for skyrim
<Greys>
they'd just make it straight
<SilverFox>
in todays world it'd probably be lesbian but alright
<Greys>
what's lesbian got to do with triangles
<Supernovy>
a triangle is the more lesbian shape
<Greys>
yanno what's better than a loli with a good character arc?
<SilverFox>
purah?
<Greys>
I don't know what that means
<SilverFox>
the loli of botw
<Greys>
no
<Glass|phone>
a non-loli with a good character arc?
<SilverFox>
a loli with noticeable sexual features?
<Greys>
a loli who is a side character but still has a character arc and is significant; but doesn't have legs, and just floats http://www.boywhofell.com/comic/ch3318-3
<SilverFox>
ew
<Greys>
also she has bolt-horns
<Greys>
which are just great
<SilverFox>
i love how lightweight these joycons are
<Rokker>
anime is cancer
<Rokker>
and manga
<Rokker>
japan in general
<darklight>
Anime is proof that 2 bombs wern't enough
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<Greys>
it's 11:17pm, and the concept of staying awake for many more hours is exhausting me
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<Glass|phone>
Rokker: the united states are cancer
<Rokker>
nope
<Greys>
"I'm gonna pummel the trust into you"
<Greys>
I have purchased the worst hotdogs
<darklight>
The united states are so great europe is trying to do the same thing
<Greys>
they're not in flavor or consistency poor hotdogs
<Greys>
but they're jumbo
<Greys>
they are, in length, girth, and consistency, nearly indestinguishable from a pornstar's halfchub
<darklight>
Are you familiar with pornstars halfchubs :P
<Glass|phone>
well then, have fun eating dick
<Greys>
turnts out, pornstar dick, is an unpleasant size of flesh stick to insert into your mouth
<darklight>
Speak for yourself
<Greys>
oh, they're not jumbo
<Greys>
they're jumbo jumbo
<darklight>
And?
<Greys>
that's too much jumbo
<darklight>
I disagree :P
<Greys>
well, you send me 20$+S&H, and I'll ship this bag of dicks to you
<Greys>
and that's in german dollars
<darklight>
I already have a cupboard of dicks
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<Glass|phone>
darklight is a big dick himself
<darklight>
I'm just an average dick :P
<AlterJeb>
darklight has a big dick
<Supernovy>
For you.
<darklight>
Do you fuck a man before throwing him out of a plane?
<Greys>
just dismantled a busted TV, there was so little in it
<Greys>
there's a handful of neat components that are coplanar with the main PCB, there's a huge capacitor that even after five days was still charged enough to spark
<teabot>
Aftear.
<Greys>
there's four LED strips I'll extract and never use
<Greys>
the LEDs have these weird dome lenses, aspheric
<Greys>
got a nice button bar that I should be able to make use of
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<G-Magic>
I'll little your word
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<darklight>
Greys how yuge?
<darklight>
I've got one that weighs about a kilo :P
<darklight>
Well, a friends, and we have 12
<AlterJeb>
a 1kg dick, eh?
<darklight>
I have a 3kg one
<darklight>
<darklight>
Silly borderless keyboard :<
<AlterJeb>
the big one weighs 3kg?
<darklight>
Yeah?
<AlterJeb>
more than I would have thought
<darklight>
It is unuseable but oh well :P
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<AlterJeb>
hey I'm sure with practice and dedication you can use it some day
<darklight>
Just because you can doesn't mean you should :P
<AlterJeb>
there's a lot of things people say you shouldn't do
<AlterJeb>
conservatives
<darklight>
You shouldn't go to bed with a conservative?
<darklight>
Well, that was overly dramatic music :P
<darklight>
I bet they did that because of the "ratings", look at spicey wings's views compared to trumps :P
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<G-Magic>
Crashed my cellphone by opening too many tabs
<darklight>
Crashed with no tab survivours
<SilverFox>
how many tabs?
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<Greys>
so my phone registers about 1GB of transfer, but my service provider says I've only used 300mb
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<Greys>
seems like it might be a weird number of hours behind
<Greys>
24 ago I had about 50mb used, 12 hours ago I had upwards of 800mb used
<Greys>
I watched a 7 minute youtube video at 240p, it used a bout 100mb
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<Greys>
so in the crystal skull episode of SG1, they establish a relationship with giant aliens in a massive pyramid, and Daniel's grandfather becomes the ambasador; but nothing ever comes of this?
<kmath>
Greys: convert 1000000000 kJ (kilojoules) to horsepower: kJ (kilojoules) and hp (horsepower) are not compatible.
<Greys>
;wa 1e12J*1 second to horsepower
<kmath>
Greys: convert 1×10^12 J (joules)×1 second to horsepower: J (joules) seconds and hp (horsepower) are not compatible.
<Greys>
;wa 1e12J/1 second to watts
<kmath>
Greys: convert (1×10^12 J (joules))/(1 second) to watts: 1×10^12 W (watts)
<Greys>
;wa 1e12W to horsepower
<kmath>
Greys: convert 1×10^12 W (watts) to horsepower: 1.341×10^9 hp (horsepower)
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<Greys>
back when the shuttle program was active, if there was a super emergency on the ISS, what would be the fastest they could launch the shuttle unprepared
<Greys>
assuming no cargo
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<Greys>
when SG1 was fighting the replicators on Thor's ship, it would have been much more effective for them to fire the shotguns on plane with the swarm,
<Greys>
;wa density of water at 5C
<kmath>
Greys: water->density->temperature->5 °C (degrees Celsius), pressure->1 atm (atmosphere): 1000 kg/m^3 (kilograms per cubic meter)
<Greys>
;wa density of water at 95C
<kmath>
Greys: water->density->temperature->95 °C (degrees Celsius), pressure->1 atm (atmosphere): 961.9 kg/m^3 (kilograms per cubic meter)
<Greys>
sinteresting
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<Greys>
Hyratel do LEDs on a constant current source still need protection resistors?
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<xShadowx>
(V - LEDV) / current = resistor size
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