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<darsie>
maybe it's because I use Dvorak, but I don't think so.
<darsie>
Doesn't seem to be a keyboard setting issue. The Staging indicator is pink instead of green. But why? I have Jeb in the capsule and power.
<UmbralRaptop>
hrm. timewarp?
<darsie>
no. Launchpad.
<UmbralRaptop>
Have you tried yelling at Werner?
<darsie>
no
<darsie>
I might wake up some flat mates.
<darsie>
I can activate the engine with rmb, though.
<UmbralRaptop>
hrm
<darsie>
save/load didn't help.
<darsie>
Linux
* UmbralRaptop
doesn't know, and for lack of other ideas will just start asking about clean installs, input locks, etc
<darsie>
Clean install. Copied old saves over.
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<darsie>
In 1.7.3 I could focus to the active vessle wiht `. That doesn't work in 1.8. Can't find a key definition in the setting, either.
<darsie>
Staging is back :). I think I did it by fiddling with insert/delete. Not by configuring ` as secondary staging key.
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<UmbralRaptop>
Ah, changing ascent modes or something
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<UmbralRaptop>
Apparently the launcher (ick) was updated at some point
<JVFoxy>
mmm?
<UmbralRaptop>
Silliness that meant I had to update a shortcut.
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<JVFoxy>
oh.. program launcher, not rocket launcher.. doh
<UmbralRaptop>
Also, I can confirm that the Pollux, Thoroughbred, and Clydesdale can take you to Kerbin escape. From KSC. While pointed straight up.
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<JVFoxy>
oh.. SRBs, had to look that up. c_c;
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<UmbralRaptop>
yeah, the new SRBs are, uh, notably powerful
<UmbralRaptop>
The smol ones probably can act like Star 37 etc upper stages
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<Althego>
finally there is a more powerful sepratoron :)
<Gasher[work]>
flea? :)
<Deddly>
Pollux?
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<Deddly>
Talking of using Pollux as a sepratron, I wonder how Star Theory solved the high part count problem.
<Deddly>
And talking about performance, I can highly recommend playing around with the "render quality" slider if anyone is playing with a weak GPU. Turning off anti-aliasing and adjusting the render quality seems to have a much greater impact on performance than any other options
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<packbart>
changing "scale = 1" to "scale = -1" in the settings.cfg under "AXIS_MOUSEWHEEL" - ah, the forum knows best
<Deddly>
What does that do?
<packbart>
re-reverse the mouse scroll wheel
<Deddly>
Ah, that makes sense
<packbart>
I didn't see any other settings for that
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<darsie>
When will the new demo come out?
<Deddly>
I heard that there's a DNA grafting project that is attempting to give swine wings and the ability to soar into the air like eagles. When they succeed, I presume the new KSP demo will come out.
<Deddly>
I don't really use Steam, but there was someone who got that not more than a month or two ago and it worked for them
<Deddly>
But it's OK, darsie, because a new demo is coming out after 1.3.1 is released https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/163917-what-happened-to-the-demo/&do=findComment&comment=3136372
<Deddly>
<rolls-eyes-emotican>
<darsie>
yay :)
<Deddly>
Don't get your hopes up too much, we're already 5 versions and two years after that post. But I suppose we are technically still "after 1.3.1", so...
<Deddly>
I think they should pick Hel, just so you can tell people you don't like that they should visit one of the moons of Saturn.
<Gasher_>
packbart, well Tolkien did take dwarves' names directly from that song
<Gasher_>
i think all giants were evil in norse mythology
<Gasher_>
all or almost all
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<darsie>
BFG
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<Deddly>
Something tells me the Big Friendly Giant isn't part of ancient Norse mythology ;)
<Deddly>
Although that would be quite amusing
<Deddly>
Imagine him turning up in the next Avengers
<darsie>
:)
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<GlassYuri>
<Deddly> I think they should pick Hel, just so you can tell people you don't like that they should visit one of the moons of Saturn.
<GlassYuri>
you can always tell people to go to helsinki airport
<GlassYuri>
there was a piece of news a few years back that flight 666 on friday the 13th had safely landed in HEL
<Deddly>
That's good to know, GlassYuri
<GlassYuri>
looked it up, it was Finnair, it was renumbered in 2017, and had flown as AY666 on friday the 13th for 21 times
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<Kalpa^>
Finnair mentioned
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<Kalpa>
Long time no irc my fellow kerbonauts
<Kalpa>
Does Supernovy still frequent this place?
<Deddly>
Hey there Kalpa
<Deddly>
I don't think so, Kalpa
<Deddly>
He's still around, but I don't think he comes here anymore. I could be wrong
<darsie>
I have 1e26 toms in my body solving Schroedinger equations non stop.
<Kalpa>
Damn.
<darsie>
Umm, wrong channel?
<Kalpa>
That sounds pretty existential, yes
<Kalpa>
Try #philosophy
<darsie>
yeah, wrong channel ...
<Deddly>
Try moar boosters, darsie
<darsie>
k
<darsie>
I tried yesterday.
<darsie>
Got scolded for it.
<darsie>
Cause I did it at 3 am.
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<sandbox>
less boosters
<snow>
HERESY
<sandbox>
fewer boosters :P
<darsie>
lesser boosters
<Deddly>
That's better, sandbox.
<darsie>
Hmm, I could see if I can get to orbit even cheaper with the lesser booster.
<packbart>
lesser boosters, greater boosters, ancient arch-boosters
<Kalpa>
Needs more booster.
<Deddly>
Sounds like species of birds, packbart.
<Deddly>
Lesser-spotted booster
<packbart>
I was thinking of minor gods but couldn't find a good description of godly hierarchies right now
<UmbralRaptop>
One (1) booster
<packbart>
The Holy Booster of Antioch?
* UmbralRaptop
wonders if anyone has used one of the 2.5 m boosters to send a probe directly to Eve
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<Eddi|zuHause>
less is more?
<UmbralRaptop>
"less is more or less more"
<UmbralRaptop>
(The best manpage entry, deprecated for something that is actually helpful)
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<Tsar_bomba>
Hi
<Mod9000>
Hello, Tsar_bomba
<Deddly>
ALrighty there
<Tsar_bomba>
The
<Tsar_bomba>
Opps
<Deddly>
I'm not entirely sure I should be welcoming the Tsar Bomba, but hey ;)
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
maybe in soviet russia the tsar bomba welcomes you
<Tsar_bomba>
I wish i was more original
<Tsar_bomba>
and that America was more impressive
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* UmbralRaptop
blinks
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<Althego>
gone in a flash :)
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<Althego>
does 1.8 overwrite the config from some hidden storage?
<Althego>
i melded it twice
<Althego>
and i lose all of my settings
<Althego>
which i dont want to set manually from some random menus again
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<Althego>
at least i should save the file so that i dont need to meld it again
<UmbralRaptop>
Maybe related to the new graphics settings?
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<Mat2ch>
My mouse wheel is inverted somehow
<Deddly>
Mat2ch, known bug
<Deddly>
There's a workaround
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* UmbralRaptop
blames Apple
<Deddly>
Trying to find that solution...
<Deddly>
Sorry can't find it right now, but I think it was packbart who found it
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<packbart>
I read it on the forum ;)
<packbart>
changing "scale = 1" to "scale = -1" in the settings.cfg under "AXIS_MOUSEWHEEL"
<Althego>
ok this is unplayable like this
<Althego>
because of settings are always reset i dont get past the main menu screen
<UmbralRaptop>
aaaaaa
<UmbralRaptop>
make settings.cfg readonly?
<Althego>
i havent tried that
<Althego>
but it was not needed until now and shouldnt be
<Althego>
if i am unlucky it is going to crash because of that
<packbart>
well, my custom PHYSICS_FRAME_DT_LIMIT did survive the upgrade
<Althego>
apparently nobody has this problem
<kubi>
hmm
<kubi>
mouse scroll zoom reversed?!
<packbart>
yes
<kubi>
why on earth?!
<packbart>
'change "scale = 1" to "scale = -1" in the settings.cfg under "AXIS_MOUSEWHEEL"'
<UmbralRaptop>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<packbart>
or maybe inv to True
<packbart>
possibly with the Unity update and because Apple Did It? ;)
<Althego>
burn apple
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<UmbralRaptop>
I'm blaming Apple indirectly for "natural" scrolling
<kubi>
I can't find any zoom in the settings
<Althego>
as they said, you hav to change it in the settings.cfg
<Althego>
not all settings are there in the guiú
<packbart>
kubi: changing the setting in AXIS_MOUSEWHEEL changed both for me
<kubi>
in the mouse settings there is only a wheel sensitivity
<kubi>
should I do directly to the file?
<kubi>
ah, ok
<packbart>
that's what I did. maybe it'll change again with 1.8.1 ;)
<kubi>
axis = -1
<kubi>
maybe that is
<Althego>
btw electron launch was successful, supőposedly went up to 1000 km
<Althego>
file unchanged when read only
<Althego>
still gets the data wrong
<Althego>
meaning it resets to default
<ItsGrey>
Good morning. It seems since 1.8 last night my altimeter is just a grey blob. I have tried removing all mods, and all the numbers are just little grey blocks. I also did a file integrity check on steam.
<packbart>
which settings do you need to change?
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<Althego>
random stuff in all around the config
<Althego>
even if i changea few booleans or simple numeric they still change back
<packbart>
giving users access to low level settings is such a support nightmare ;)
<Althego>
even if i change them in the gui
<Althego>
for example the game insists it should go up to 120 fps which is pointless in most monitors
<Althego>
so i truned it down to 60
<packbart>
ok, that's weird then. maybe some error in the settings causes it to reject the whole file?
<Althego>
patch conic limit increased
<Althego>
siome keys changed
<Althego>
etc
<Althego>
but that is it, the game rewrites the settings to the defauklt on each start
<Althego>
so it means the default is wrong
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<UmbralRaptop>
aaaa
<Althego>
somehow the fullscreen setting remains, even if it changes it back in the file
<Althego>
also the screen resolution
<kubi>
software industry
<Althego>
even that annoying unity user data popup comes back every time
<UmbralRaptop>
Cleansing fire?
<Althego>
apparently the videos of the new tesxtures didnt do them any jjustice, even in the menu screen the new mun surface looks better
<Althego>
unfortunately that is as far as i go with 1.8 with the settings like this
<Althego>
those are the generic us spacesuits, may have started on the shuttle, but i wouldnt associate them strictly with the shuttle, unlike the orange iva stuff, that was so shuttle
<JVFoxy>
shuttle/ISS EVA suits...
<JVFoxy>
the one one looks like a mash of the two suit systems used on ISS
<kmath>
<BP_Hutch> Love this photo of Alexei Leonov throwing a football in the National Mall during a visit to Washington, D.C. https://t.co/088vnONY1O
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<Guest75785>
can someone give me some support about a problem in my ksp?
<UmbralRaptop>
Well, you haven't stated what the problem is?
<UmbralRaptop>
If it's mouse wheel related, you'll have to edit settings.cfg
<UmbralRaptop>
If it's the altimeter being gray, you'll need to up one of the scaling options (hud?) to at least 95%
<UmbralRaptop>
If it's settings being undone every time you restart KSP, I don't know the solution, or if one has yet been found
<Guest75785>
my ground science doesn't send science any more. After the 1.8 update, I wanted to have a look for the new visual effects and deleted some mods, now the error ingame appears "the science stations can't work, cause they don't touch a planets surface"
<UmbralRaptop>
Hrm, sounds like terrain changes mean that they would need to be replaced? (assuming that this isn't a mod interaction)
<Guest75785>
replacement by picking the parts up with a kerbal and place them again doesn't work
<Guest75785>
I'll put the mod-stuff back and try if it works again, wait a moment
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<UmbralRaptop>
hrm. Does placing new parts entirely?
<UmbralRaptop>
I know that 1.8 is a breaking change in some ways
<Guest75785>
and .. where can I bet, that KSP 2 will be a failure?
<UmbralRaptop>
Uh, I think reddit has some betting subreddits?
<Guest75785>
nope, put the mods back doesn't work. What a pitty...
<Guest75785>
I need the sciencepoints so bad :(
<UmbralRaptop>
I mean, I tend to make sure to have backups / multiple installs, though the game does not make it clear that this is a good idea, especially with mods.
<Guest75785>
have a nice evening out there. What a funny experience. Haven't been in a public browser-chat since the mid 90th :D
<UmbralRaptop>
IRC clients still exist!
* UmbralRaptop
may be using one on my phone
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