raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Galileo. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, 1.7.x, 1.8.1, and 1.9.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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<discord-_> s​cimas. — Here's a short video showing axis tilt with Principia
<discord-_> s​cimas. — https://youtu.be/UKT-7k86uTA
<kmath> YouTube - KSP Principia Axis Tilt Demo
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2687: More Clang voodoo - https://git.io/JUvLf
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2687: More Clang voodoo - https://git.io/JUvLf
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/JUvLJ
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy 1c33a5b - More Clang voodoo.
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy dc59bf1 - Merge pull request #2687 from pleroy/Clang More Clang voodoo
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy labeled pull request #2687: More Clang voodoo - https://git.io/JUvLf
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<discord-_> I​ndiantechkid. — what is lagrange point
<discord-_> I​ndiantechkid. — and what is lisajous orbit
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<discord-_> p​t1243. — https://lmgtfy.com/?q=lagrange+point
<discord-_> M​arsu. — Damned 🙂
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<discord-_> I​ndiantechkid. — lisajous orbit?
<discord-_> I​ndiantechkid. — I wanted to sk you guys cuz you guys are probably experts
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2688: Move the template defaults to try to get the code to link with Clang - https://git.io/JUvno
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2688: Move the template defaults to try to get the code to link with Clang - https://git.io/JUvno
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/JUvni
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy 46e0777 - Move the template defaults.
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy 9cca4f2 - Merge pull request #2688 from pleroy/Clang Move the template defaults to try to get the code to link with Clang
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy labeled pull request #2688: Move the template defaults to try to get the code to link with Clang - https://git.io/JUvno
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2688: Move the template defaults to try to get the code to link with Clang - https://git.io/JUvno
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin unlabeled pull request #2688: Move the template defaults to try to get the code to link with Clang - https://git.io/JUvno
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin unlabeled pull request #2687: More Clang voodoo - https://git.io/JUvLf
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2687: More Clang voodoo - https://git.io/JUvLf
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2686: Try to appease the gods of Clang - https://git.io/JJjDe
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin unlabeled pull request #2686: Try to appease the gods of Clang - https://git.io/JJjDe
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — @Indiantechkid when your craft exists in gravitation of 2 bodies, there are few places where you can be somewhat stationary relative to both bodies
<discord-_> I​ndiantechkid. — oo
<discord-_> I​ndiantechkid. — interesting
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — those are lagrange points
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — L1 through L5
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — where they are you can look up on wikipedia
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — but orbitting on top of points themselves is unstable
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — so spacecrafts are "wigglying around"
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — when you wiggle somewhat periodically in 2D, with you get lossajous path
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — @Indiantechkid and here how such orbit looks in reality
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — @Indiantechkid and here's how such orbit looks in reality
<discord-_> I​ndiantechkid. — mom pick me up im scared
<discord-_> I​ndiantechkid. — orbital mechanics would be cool if I knew how it works
<discord-_> I​ndiantechkid. — its interesting, but complicated, so I am gonna stick to rocket building for now
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — imo, you should really get an intuition for simple ksp-like mechanics first
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — try orbitting, try randevous, try going to other planets
<discord-_> k​onstantinua00. — get a firm grasp on that
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — it's not that different once you know how to do manouvers and execute them
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — main thing is understanding the plotting window frames
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2689: Comment out a test - https://git.io/JUvlr
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JUvlo
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy 68dc3f0 - Comment out the test.
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy 6521bef - Merge pull request #2689 from pleroy/Clang Comment out a test
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2689: Comment out a test - https://git.io/JUvlr
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy labeled pull request #2689: Comment out a test - https://git.io/JUvlr
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2690: Support for changing the origin of a polynomial - https://git.io/JUvBo
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2691: Fix tolerances for Clang - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/2691
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2691: Fix tolerances for Clang - https://git.io/JUvBH
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<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — ahhhhh, the moon is slowly eating my satalite
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — ahhhhh, the moon is slowly eating my satellite (edited)
<discord-_> l​pg. — just a nibble
<discord-_> l​pg. — nobody will notice
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — Wasn't planning to make it this escentric, but my orbiting burn started spinning, so much for rcsbuildaid
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — in about 2 passes it will probably crash lol
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — but the escentricness turns out to be usefull, because the long part of the orbit is right above earth, that's usefull for transmitting science ))
<discord-_> e​gg. — @Zeusbeer, use the orbit analyser to get reliable numbers
<discord-_> e​gg. — that 19555.3 is all but fictional
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — doesn't show when it will collide
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — it wasn't fictional because I already did a few passes and it went from 100km to 20km
<discord-_> e​gg. — @Zeusbeer, the actual number has no truth to it
<discord-_> e​gg. — you will not hit a minimum altitude of 19555.3
<discord-_> e​gg. — the properties shown by anything other than Principia are osculating properties, and they change all the time
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — yeah but in this case they are close enoguh
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — yeah but in this case they are close enough (edited)
<discord-_> B​utcher. — Lowest Altitude of -1km is no bueno.
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — they never fluctuate too much from the actual result, and them changing is enough for me to know what's gonna happen to them
<discord-_> e​gg. — either look at map view to see closest approaches, or the analyser to see long-time properties
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<discord-_> e​gg. — @Zeusbeer they do fluctuate too much, and they fluctuate in the long run
<discord-_> e​gg. — this is like the rendez-vous thing all over again, use the tools we give you, don’t try to hammer tools that fundamentally cannot answer your questions into giving you something
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — mk1 eyeball and brain got me trough most of my life so far
<discord-_> e​gg. — @Zeusbeer that is not true, and we had this discussion here a couple of weeks ago; learning the reference frames is critical to figuring out anything in Principia, similarly learning to read the analyser (rather than similar-sounding but inaccurate and short-term info) is critical to understanding what happens to your vessels over the long run
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — I know, just most of the time I even forget the analyser exists...
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — and it clogs the screen so much
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — that was litterally my first day/week learning the mod, I know almost every basic thing now
<discord-_> e​gg. — yes, but the same remark still applies to the things you have yet to learn
<discord-_> e​gg. — to quote @Damien, every day is a school day here :D
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — it's mostly me being lazy, I could've also pressed m for map view and then made a screenshot of my predicted periapsis there
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — àlso this
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — 😦 only in 1960
<discord-_> e​gg. — get rid of old ships if that is too annoying
<discord-_> Z​eusbeer. — does that instantly reduce file size too?
<discord-_> e​gg. — yes, this is issue 2400, vessel histories take up space
<discord-_> e​gg. — it keeps being discussed here
<discord-_> e​gg. — we are working on it, but that will take some time
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<discord-_> l​pg. — the size of the whole saves folder really doesn't mean a whole lot, however
<discord-_> l​pg. — if you have 100 5MB .sfs files in there, deleting vessels in one won't do anything
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2603 commit - https://git.io/JUvzU
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2691: Fix tolerances for Clang - https://git.io/JUvBH
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JUvap
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy 00c096b - Fix tolerances for Clang.
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy c56e04f - Merge pull request #2691 from pleroy/Clang Fix tolerances for Clang
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2690: Support for changing the origin of a polynomial - https://git.io/JUvBo
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