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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #3093: Use celestial-specific terminology - https://git.io/JRbe6
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ @ZombieZilla @Al2Me6 https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3093
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ All hail the 🥚
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #3093: Use celestial-specific terminology - https://git.io/JRbe6
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ @Al2Me6 please scan through the Chinese in the cfgs in the diff of that pull request for obvious typos, given that can’t actually read what I am writing I sometime make stupid typos
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ (I had set one of the apoapsis strings to 拱点高 at one point >_>)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ (I had set one of the « apoapsis » strings to 拱点高 at one point >_>) (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ (which almost makes sense in a weird way, but was just copy-pasted incorrectly from inside « apoapsis altitude »)
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Chinese looks good to me 👍
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #3093: Use celestial-specific terminology - https://git.io/JRbe6
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #3093: Use celestial-specific terminology - https://git.io/JRbe6
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ fixed
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #3093: Use celestial-specific terminology - https://git.io/JRbe6
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #3093: Use celestial-specific terminology - https://git.io/JRbe6
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #3093: Use celestial-specific terminology - https://git.io/JRbe6
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<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ @egg Would you like a PR containing zh-cn translations for the descriptions? And also general touch-ups.
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ (First thing I notice is that the sunflare toggle is translated as a literal solar flare (as in the astronomical event) rather than 'lens flare'.)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ That would be very nice, yes!
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ Does the sunflare toggle even work anymore?
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ At least not with Scatterer installed
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ I think it might have broken down, if it does nothing perhaps I should just kill it :-p
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Sure, that's fine by me since it doesn't work for me anyway 😆
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ @Paculino, you don't use Scatterer, does it do anything for you?
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<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ I installed Scatterer when I noticed that 1.10 was so much faster
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ I installed Scatterer when I noticed that 1.10 was so much faster, so I don't know/remember how to answer that (edited)
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<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Ah, sorry for bothering you then.
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ It's alright
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Some clipping here
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3094: Change the Downsampling class to manage a proper data structure and its invariants - https://git.io/JRpYT
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<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Overflowing text here (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ ....mechjeb variously translates "periapsis" as "近点“ and ”近供点“ 🤦‍♂️
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<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ Oh yeah there even is an open issue about that
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ re. MJ, I guess send PRs to @sarbian @XKdiverque (but beware getting into rabbit holes of nested tangents :-p)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ (近供点 seems like the more proper term if talking about actual apsides? from a very cursory search and google-translating my way through the result, 近点 appears to be used mostly when qualifying things, e.g. 近点年 for the anomalistic year)
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Note the typo (供/拱)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ (may I add, also, that 近点年 is a much nicer term than anomalistic year, and that it took me far too many seconds to recall what the term for perihelion-to-perihelion year is)
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<raptop> Anomalistic year sounds like the sort of weirdly short/long year you get when updating calendar systems
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ (then again it’s not really perihelion-to-perihelion except in an average sense, and its actual estimation is likely to involve something like mean motion that has to do with sufficiently-mean mean anomaly, so perhaps the Indo-European term is more accurate if you get into those weeds…)
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<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ I am currently attempting to find out what the proper term for "lunation number" is in Chinese... the current upgrade message doesn't mention it at all
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ I am currently attempting to find out what the proper term for "lunation number" is in Chinese... the current upgrade message doesn't mention it (or new moons) at all (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ to be honest the lunation number is a strange concept, I am not sure whose convention we are using here but there are many…
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ for instance we are not using the one described in <https://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/Lunation.html>
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ ooh, it is Meeus’s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_moon#Lunation_number
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ @Al2Me6 I think https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%96%B0%E6%9C%88#%E8%BF%91%E4%BC%BC%E6%8E%A8%E7%AE%97%E5%85%AC%E5%BC%8F uses that number, though it might not name it
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ Yeah, it just calls it N and explains what it is
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ I guess you can just go for 米斯的月号 :-p
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ (or Meeus的月号, I guess if we refuse to romanize names, we ought not sinicize them either)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ OK in stock the checkbox does… something ? but it doesn’t get rid of the whole flare anymore
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ if anything it makes it brigther
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<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ Is it a problem in KSP, or a problem in Principia?
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #3095: Remove the sun lens flare toggle - https://git.io/JRpwJ
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy labeled pull request #3095: Remove the sun lens flare toggle - https://git.io/JRpwJ
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<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ KSP doesn’t have a specification for its API, so can you really call anything about it a problem with it :-p
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #3095: Remove the sun lens flare toggle - https://git.io/JRpwJ
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/JRpFM
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin c7d6abe - Remove the sun lens flare toggle
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin 3de0c8f - Merge pull request #3095 from eggrobin/flares Remove the sun lens flare toggle
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ @Al2Me6 one string you don’t need to fix :-p https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3095
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #3094: Change the Downsampling class to manage a proper data structure and its invariants - https://git.io/JRpYT
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