Judge_Dedd changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.11.0 | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | Althego is doing
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<JVFoxy>
seems a friend of mine been trying out KSP, can't quite get it to orbit yet, can only do a few launches before needing a break from the game
<Mat2ch>
Well, send some links to Scott Manley videos. :D
<JVFoxy>
with how many videos Scott has racked up so far...
<Mat2ch>
Just the basics. Not ALL of them :D
<Althego>
scotts kerbal videos may be really outdated
<Althego>
physics changed
<Althego>
lot of things changed
<JVFoxy>
its ok, we don't talk too much about things, not sure its really a big thing for them. Probably only got the game because saw I was into it.
<JVFoxy>
mind you, 3 months of not playing, I totally forgot all the things I was doing in my career modes. Ended up starting from scratch again. Big whoops when I boosted Val into higher polar orbit. Just enough fuel to get her orbit back down but that was it.
<JVFoxy>
she's not stuck, I did send up a robotic booster to dock with her. Just waiting for KSP to swing around again.
<Althego>
i am waiting for 1.11.1
<Althego>
which may not come
<Althego>
career takes a lot out of me
<Althego>
and it takes weeks in real time to collect all the biome data around kerbin and its moons
<JVFoxy>
originally I sent her up with a docking port, Jeb went up, got the first docking milestones. Jeb came back with all the biomes in low space. (ya dock'n with no RCS, not really a challenge for me now)
<Althego>
it took a while for ccds and other semiconductor devices to catch up
<Althego>
for star photometry pm tubes are still in use
<JVFoxy>
note: visible vs observable universe....
<Althego>
i am waiting for the final book of expanse
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<minas_tirith>
Althego, I just find it surprising how good the optics and tracking of that period was
<Althego>
"tracking"
<Althego>
you literally need to move one axis in a steady speed
<minas_tirith>
In theory
<minas_tirith>
In practice its quite tough to keep the telescope fixed and moreover at these powers we might have to start dealing with deviations from the ideal circular/elliptial orbit assumptions
<Althego>
we do not live on a flat earth
<minas_tirith>
So?
<Althego>
so the speed does not need to change :)
<minas_tirith>
Neither earth nor its orbit is a perfect sphere/ellipse
<Althego>
doesnt matter
<Althego>
in the short term it rotates in a steady speed
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<minas_tirith>
How does it not? If there are deviations from the ideal rotation, it might affect very high powers telescope
<Althego>
you need to track the moon
<minas_tirith>
And again as I said, keeping it mechanically steady probably isn't as easy as the theory makes us think
<Althego>
that is moving, visible to the eye compared to the background stars
<minas_tirith>
Yeah I am guessing they could put a finder scope above that tracks some fixed star with manual adjustments
<Althego>
but you dont need long exposure there
<minas_tirith>
to "correct" the tracking errors
<Althego>
but anythign else
<minas_tirith>
I meant wrt several hour long photos
<Althego>
is basically too slow and too far away to matter for a photo
<Althego>
i am talking about natuiral objects. satellite tracking is a whole other business
<minas_tirith>
>The first known attempt at astronomical photography was by Louis Jacques Mandé Daguerre, inventor of the daguerreotype process which bears his name, who attempted in 1839 to photograph the Moon. Tracking errors in guiding the telescope during the long exposure meant the photograph came out as an indistinct fuzzy spot.
<minas_tirith>
This shows it isn't as simple as we think
<Althego>
for the moon
<Althego>
what i explicitly stated
<minas_tirith>
Ok moon orbit is a bit complex
<minas_tirith>
due to its closeness and the fact its rotating itself
<Althego>
and the Daguerreotype needed a really long exposure
<Althego>
even wet plates were used for astronomy just fine
<Althego>
and as i said, those already had superior resolution to ccds
<minas_tirith>
When was ccd imaging invented
<minas_tirith>
and when did it surpass traditional photography in quality
<Althego>
optics, is a different thing. it is always hard to make a good lense
<Althego>
especially a lens you design for a specific purpose
<minas_tirith>
Yeah the telescope optics part is also fascinating how clear a photo of the andromeda he was able to take
<minas_tirith>
as well as the optics of the camera too
<minas_tirith>
which is an even subtler problem
<Althego>
andromeda is huse btw
<minas_tirith>
Ray calculation must have been a very laborious and lengthy process back then
<Althego>
i havent seen it, as i am city dweller
<Althego>
luckily mirrors help you out, so since newton there were good mirror telescopes
<minas_tirith>
Althego, as for good city targets, have you ever tried a sun projection?
<Althego>
no
<minas_tirith>
what scope do you have
<Althego>
my wave function is global to the universe :)
<minas_tirith>
I am not mathematical enough to understand the joke orry
<Althego>
scope in programming is where you can find something. global can be found anywhere
<minas_tirith>
you are local to a place, humans aren't global
<Mat2ch>
Althego: it's sad that the novels 7 to 9 aren't made into a show :/
<Althego>
also i heard one of the actors is sacked before the last season
<Mat2ch>
well, maybe they will make it into one, but as another show, since it plays almost 30 years after the other books
<Mat2ch>
sacked?
<Althego>
fired
<Mat2ch>
probably Cas Anvar
<Althego>
but in general i didnt follow what happens with the series
<Althego>
maybe after i retire i will watch it
<Althego>
just like i will watch the new bsg
<Althego>
or the whole of babylon 5
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<baguette>
Hi GlassYuri3 and NicknameHere
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<Mat2ch>
I don't know how true it is, but rumour has it that SpaceX might do a static fire today and if successful a flight tomorrow.
<Mat2ch>
but this are only rumours.
<Althego>
they can
<Althego>
!road
<Kerbot>
Althego => Primary; Monday, Jan 11, 2021; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Canceled | Secondary; Tuesday, Jan 12, 2021; 2:30 am to 8:00 pm; Scheduled | Secondary; Wednesday, Jan 13, 2021; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Scheduled | Primary; Thursday, January 14, 2021; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Canceled | Primary; Monday, January 18, 2021; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Scheduled | Secondary; Tuesday, Jan 19, 2021; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Scheduled | Secondary; Wednesday, Jan 20, 2021;
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<Althego>
lol i didnt know about the trolling saruman joke until now