<raptop>
"Wait, what if we just stuck the later starlink payloads on a spaceship?" -- hopefully no one until the testing gets farther
<Althego>
you could put a few of the starlink sats on the dragon, in the external trunk
* raptop
imagines that for an ISS mission
<raptop>
"Hang on, we need to drop off a few sats before we dock"
<Althego>
iss is in 51 deg, some starlink sats are in 53
<Althego>
maybe it can be done, i am not use how much plane change those ions would be able to do
<raptop>
hrm
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<Althego>
no launches, no flat earth videos, sad day
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<Mat2ch>
Althego: and rain and grey and bad weather overall
<Althego>
hehe, welcome back to hardware unavailable
<Mat2ch>
Althego: you can do some plane changes just by using earths not uniform magnetic field...
<Althego>
and non uniform gravity too
<Mat2ch>
one or two degrees should be possible in a decent amout of time
<Althego>
but it would still be a pretty kerbal launch, because timing is an issue, and you have to time to get to iss and to be in the correct requirement plane for the sats. double restrictions
<Althego>
and you could only take a few of them anyway
<Althego>
not worth it
<Mat2ch>
nah, not really
<Mat2ch>
but would make a nice tech demo
<Althego>
so the first totally space tourist flight
<Althego>
is not going to have tom cruise
<Mat2ch>
not?
<Althego>
instead 3 rich guys and the actual commander
<Althego>
think of it how rich they must be to pay a ticket
<Althego>
does the iss even have accomodations for this many people?
<Mat2ch>
How long is the stay?
<Althego>
few weeks
<Mat2ch>
they could all sleep in the capsule
<Mat2ch>
there's enough space there
<Althego>
ah yes it is not the soyuz
<Mat2ch>
even got a toilet
<Mat2ch>
well, not a nice one, like the soyuz tbh
<Althego>
i think they went up to 12 people once? so maybe the iss is enough
<Mat2ch>
There should be a list of beds somewhere ;)
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<Althego>
at least after this they can move out the crane to safety
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<Mat2ch>
I wonder why the crane is still attached
<Mat2ch>
I thought they have a system that holds the rocket down
<Althego>
probably stability
<Althego>
must make our rocket lyapunov stable :)
<Mat2ch>
almost every car driving by the cam is a huge inefficient pickup truck
<Mat2ch>
crazy
<Althego>
americans
<minas_tirith>
Althego, are you a mathematician
<Althego>
no
<Althego>
that is why the cybertruck, as ugly as it is, going to be a huge success
<Althego>
because most people dont use pickups to actually transport things
<Mat2ch>
now a Tesla is going by
<minas_tirith>
Lyapunov stability seems like a mathematician thing
<Althego>
technically right, but it is the basis of the control theory of nonlinear systems
<Mat2ch>
and now a jeep, which looks rather small compared to all the F150s...
<minas_tirith>
Althego, whatever you said is very mathy too
* raptop
vaguely recalls seeing something about lyapunov time in predicting planetary orbits
<Althego>
the original application was for that
<raptop>
ah, makes sense
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<darsie>
If people shared cars they could use the right car for the right job. Since they don't, they have to use a car that fits most jobs, but not ideally.
<raptop>
Families do, and theoretically buses/trains can provide "cars" for some purposes
<raptop>
(in practice of course, buses and trains somewhat unreliable and have very limited temporal and spacial coverage)
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<raptop>
;outcome add For some reason, subsequent modifications make your designs increasingly crab-like.
<LunchBot>
raptop: Added outcome: For some reason, subsequent modifications make your designs increasingly crab-like.
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