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<Mat2ch>
SpaceX bought two oil drilling plattforms and wants to transform them to launch and landing pads
<Mat2ch>
"The two rigs sold for $3.5 million each" that's expensive for oil rigs. They must be in a good shape. Usually you can get them for less than their scrap value
<emyn_muil>
Mat2ch, what would he do with all the oil
<emyn_muil>
I hope he isn't dismantling them
<Mat2ch>
emyn_muil: you might want to read the article. Or what I've written.
<packbart>
could fuel the Starship from the Big Methane Tank under the sea ;) (yeah, just kidding)
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<Althego>
the issue is, the superheavy booster is too loud. therefore cant launch from land because of environmental (people dont like it) regulations
<Althego>
around 28 or so raptor engines
<emyn_muil>
Mat2ch, even if he transforms them I hope he keeps the oil part
<emyn_muil>
Let me read the post
<emyn_muil>
That article doesn't clearly say anything weather the oil drilling part would be disbanded or not
<packbart>
and I guess they wouldn't want to launch from a heavily corroded scrap-rig, hence the price
<emyn_muil>
But it'd be dumb to disband it
<emyn_muil>
Why squander a nice source of gas for your rockets
<packbart>
why? it's of not much use to SpaceX
<emyn_muil>
How will they fuel their rockets?
<packbart>
they buy methane
<packbart>
from experts
<emyn_muil>
Even so oil is precious
<packbart>
it's mostly nasty and sticky
<emyn_muil>
Its a rare resource that should not be squandered
<packbart>
not much use pumping crude oil into a Starship tank
<emyn_muil>
The Russians used to use vodka
<packbart>
oil rigs are not a rare resource
<emyn_muil>
An oil rig can only exist where oil exists
<packbart>
nah, it can be dragged anywhere
<packbart>
they're ususally repositionable
<emyn_muil>
How?
<emyn_muil>
You can only drill oil where oil exists
<packbart>
by pulling it with ships to another location
<emyn_muil>
And how will the ship drill for oil?
<packbart>
there are even special low-loading truckships
<packbart>
it doesn't. duh. anyway. whatevs
<emyn_muil>
The ship can't produce oil from think air to "pull" it to an oil rig
<Mat2ch>
Uhm. You should watch some documentaries about oil rigs...
<emyn_muil>
I can't understand how you can just move a rig to any random point
<emyn_muil>
A rig can only drill if there is oil underneath
<Mat2ch>
They are usually anchored to the bottom of the ocean, but swim. They are not really drilling there, usually there's only a pipe going down to the oil pocket under the sea bed and they pump it into their storage tanks
<Mat2ch>
once a week an oil tanker visits and takes the oil to shore
<mrBlaQ>
I even used the winch system from whatever mod for the tether landing ;)
<Althego>
i swear this behave differently in every second launch
<Althego>
and the colored balls are lying
<mrBlaQ>
Trust in your feelings
<Althego>
search your feeling, you know it to be true
<Althego>
i built it on instinct and the launch worked all too well for that. i remember i used to tinker with the com a lot. but those were the old times without the vectors, just used clipped skippers
<Althego>
the wings are made of paper glued on by technokol
<Althego>
the external tank turned into a bomb during testing and destroyed the landing strip
<Althego>
at least basically all rocket youtubers had an interview with him
<Althego>
seems to be quite open and smart guy
<Althego>
i think my problem is a tank that didnt exist in the original shuttle
<Althego>
but i cant put anything there
<Althego>
nothing is the correct shape. except maybe a monoprop tank which is smaller
<Althego>
the devs should give up this stupid different tank ideas. have the same model, make the fuel exchangable
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<Althego>
and if i remove the tank, i have to set up everything again
<packbart>
but but but even Nertea uses different models for different fuels
<Althego>
i have to get a ballast
<Althego>
otherwise that tank in itself turns into a ballast
<Althego>
and no, i will not put it on empty
<packbart>
use Kerbals? ;)
<packbart>
a few clipped external command seats
<Althego>
the issue is rather there is no part that has this clipped cylinder shape of the shuttle elements and very thing. to put between the cargo by and the engine holder hingie especially made for the shuttle
<Althego>
maybe the monoprop, but i dont want that
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<Althego>
after i rebuilt the aft part twice now it flies. but has huge empty monoprop tank
<Althego>
at least i can explain away that the batteries and the fuel cells are in the empty space there
<Althego>
meanwhile on wintergatan 2
<mrBlaQ>
I'm worried he's gonna have a mental breakdown soon
<Althego>
i think he is living in it :)
<mrBlaQ>
honestly I'd be OK with him just fully investing in only improving MMX and never touring
<Althego>
if i take out the dummy payload it could land on the moon by delta v. but the two terriers as oms have too small delta v. but it could probably land on minmus
<Althego>
hmm, the dummy payload was a fuel tank, so with that... it could go to the end of the world
<Althego>
but ard to fly because of the offset engines
<Mat2ch>
Road closed!
<Althego>
for a while now
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<Mat2ch>
I could watch Martin just play the piano for hours...
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<Guest35860>
Hi
<Mod9000>
Hello, Guest35860
<Guest35860>
maybe this is a common question, im new in this game and community, but how much science you can get with an asteroid?
<raptop>
Quite a bit (I'd have to double check how much), but it's also sort of a hassle since it invovles getting the asteroid into different situations
<raptop>
I mean, if your goal is "enough science to unlock everything", there's a case to be made for mining out minmus with a secondary focus on the mun as the easiest
<raptop>
I'd argue that a lot of "inefficient" things are worth doing because there's plenty of science in the kerbol system, and you want interesting challenges
<Guest35860>
Thanks for the info, my goal is to unlock all :p cuz i want to see what i can do with everything, just bought the game 1 week ago and havent played anything but easycarrer mode
<raptop>
Fair enough, and feel free to ask questions about the various mechanics, etc
<Guest35860>
Thank you
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<Mat2ch>
the video I'm not allowed to talk about will hit 50 mio views soon. Crazy.
* raptop
vaguely wonders if althego will be watching a chicken and a detective try to defuse bombs
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