egg|principia|egg changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspmooders | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | <SilverFox> "little" doesn't seem like a real word to me right now
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<linuxgurugamer>
good evening. Does anyone know what happens with regards to vessel modules when a vessel is staged?
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<linuxgurugamer>
specifically, assuming that vessel A has a vessel module, with a data item set to a value, what happens after staging? Do both vessels have the data item set to the same value?
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<grrrrb>
when a vessel is staged I believe the section that does not contain the currently active command module is split off and placed in a new vessel, I would expect either this new vessel contains a clone of the previous vesselmodule or a new vesselmodule is constructed
<grrrrb>
it should be relatively easy to test this
<RandomJeb>
since I'm the health and safety officer I was informed about how to document the asbestos exposed workers we have and archival demands
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<RandomJeb>
I'm one of those workers, lung baseline scan on thursday
<RandomJeb>
wheee
<Sigma88>
what kind of exposure?
<Sigma88>
if I may ask
<RandomJeb>
very low amounts in some dust
<Sigma88>
do you still have buildings with asbestos? (I guess you are in the us)
<RandomJeb>
everywhere still has buildings with asbestos
<RandomJeb>
they used it in everything, everywhere
<RandomJeb>
until they realized the cancer thing
<Sigma88>
yeah, I know many countries give special funding to remove in a controlled way the asbestos
<RandomJeb>
and it's fine where it is as long as you don't go shredding it up
<RandomJeb>
so it mostly sits there until discovered or it's kept in records and then you have the funded removal when necessary
<RandomJeb>
the discovery bit is the part where exposure mostly still happens :P
<Sigma88>
yeah I would imagine :D
<Thorbane>
Did the docking ports issue with Infernal Robotics get fixed in the 1.2.2 pre-release version? Because I'm seeing a surprising lack of kaboom using docking ports attached to IR parts.
<RandomJeb>
also I'm in norway
<Sigma88>
ah "cool"
<Sigma88>
:D
<RandomJeb>
quite :D
<Sigma88>
Thorbane: no idea
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<RandomJeb>
I've been real bad at playing KSP lately so I haven't followed the development of IR since 1.0.5 or something
<RandomJeb>
glad that docking ports are working for when I have some free time over easter though
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<Greys>
I wonder if the fact that Apple's fancy new language for iOS development is not-java is going to lead the iphone to greater market share
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<Sigma88>
wait, iOS was java based?
<Greys>
that is literally nothing resembling or related to my statement
<Sigma88>
I must have misunderstood what you mean
<Sigma88>
what do you mean by "not-java" ?
<Greys>
swift
<Greys>
swift isn't java
<Greys>
the important fact is neither swift or java but isn't
<Sigma88>
I thought that "new language for iOS is non-java" implied that the old language for iOS was java
<Sigma88>
I know next to nothing about apple stuff
<Greys>
not only is that an irrational jump, but I'm not even talking about ios
<Greys>
if you wanted to perform iOS development, you would not be developing the operating system
<Sigma88>
ah ok now I understand what you mean
<Greys>
now to preempt the rational question; no, iOS apps are not written in java, they're written in objective C
<Greys>
android apps are written in java
<Greys>
objective C is a somewhat jenky hack of C to be object oriented like C#, and java is the most popularly dispised language that isn't objectively bad
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<Sigma88>
yes I get your point now
<Sigma88>
basically since it doesn't use java it has a chance to attract more app developers to the platform
<Sigma88>
I guess that's your point right?
<Greys>
it's more like magnets, developers have the same polarity as java, so they're repelled by it
<Sigma88>
:)
<Sigma88>
I have the impression apple has more market for paid apps while android has more market for free apps filled with adds
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<Sigma88>
but I wouldn't know for sure
<Greys>
the market for free apps has fallen apart everywhere, and paid apps are no longer profitable, the app bubble is currently collapsing
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<Greys>
without going too deep into it; customers aren't willing to pay like they used to, a 5$ app is a dead app these days, and advertising is worth effectively nothing unless it's harassing the user which causes people to not use your app
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<Greys>
there's less than one tenth as many people making a significant living from their apps today as there was at the peak, and most of them do so via subscription systems
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<Sigma88>
huh
<Sigma88>
I had no idea
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<SilverFox>
Greys, edumacate me on QLED tvs
<SilverFox>
!tell Majiir who's the korean oprah?
<Qboid>
SilverFox: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
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<Thomas>
SilverFox: Yes, it splits long strings into multiple messages. If the message length exceedes a certain value it stops sending it and sends me a warning
<SilverFox>
cool
<Thomas>
<Sigma88> I have the impression apple has more market for paid apps while android has more market for free apps filled with adds -> Hahahaha
<Thomas>
In Android you have a chance to get an app without ads
<Thomas>
in iOS every app annoys you with popups
<Sigma88>
aren't there add free apps on ios?
<Thomas>
Well, yes, but they are from big companies who dont need the money
<Sigma88>
so paid apps still display adds?
<Sigma88>
and why in hell would I pay for an app if it has adds on top?
<Thomas>
No, they dont. But I dont buy apss :D
<Thomas>
*apps
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<MobileFox>
Egg, how do you standardize non-normal distributions, and how is standardizing different from Normalizing?
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<MobileFox>
~c -5.8 / 11.4
<FoxBot9000>
MobileFox, -0.5087719298245613
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<SilverFox>
okay guys, bit of a dilemma
<SilverFox>
sister dropped the computer and now the screen bork
<icefire>
I fail to se the dilemma here
<icefire>
go fix it nerd
<SilverFox>
well it's no use to sister, so im going to keep it
<SilverFox>
use it as a computing unit or some shit idk
<SilverFox>
however, I can't just see the screen to see the filesystem to unzip the drivers onto it
<SilverFox>
it's stock windows7 so idk if I can even putty into it
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<SilverFox>
maybe the GPU is just upright fucked or somethign
<SilverFox>
all external video ports are fucked
<SilverFox>
so yeah
<SilverFox>
i plugged an ethernet cable to it and it isn't picking it up
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<SilverFox>
I have zero feedback with this thing
<SilverFox>
oh ethernet wasnt in alll the way, I got ethernet connection
<SilverFox>
im going to have to install linux on it mmmmmm
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<SilverFoxy>
fucking love our ISP SO MUCH
<SilverFoxy>
fucking love our ISP SO MUCH
<SilverFoxy>
MMMMM
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<SilverFox>
ayyy I can ssh into it when its plugged into my spare laptop, lets see if I can get into it wheb its on the shittop
<SilverFox>
aw fuck that would've been a good name for it
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<SilverFox>
"ps: command not found"
<SilverFox>
I cant fucking list the processes reeeeeeeeeeeee
<SilverFox>
then I tried installing it and it gave an input/output error
<SilverFox>
and then it made my taskbar disappear
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<SilverFox>
now vnc is being a bitch
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<SilverFox>
so now im able to vnc in, but its just a grey screen