egg|principia|egg changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspmooders | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | <SilverFox> "little" doesn't seem like a real word to me right now
<SilverFox> yo I got a few tells for ya Majiir, just fyi
<Majiir> meh
<SilverFox> ...did they not send?
<SilverFox> qboid's here
<SilverFox> I found some good bae suzy stuff, an aoa member video from facebook uhhh probably a question in there somewhere, and a dramafever link
<Majiir> neat
<SilverFox> like our bae did a calender or something
<SilverFox> and uhhh the aoa member I think was dongdong, but I fuck up her name lots so not too sure on that
<Greys> Majiir, I forgot a thing, so assume I have asked you a question and present an answer
<Majiir> I saw a show with Dasom once and it was fucking horrible
<Majiir> I love me some Dasom but I don't think kdrama is her thing
<SilverFox> what show?
<Majiir> Greys: You will probably want to start using RFC1918 subnets if you don't want her to break up with you.
<Greys> sounds legit
<Majiir> Good problem to have, really
<Greys> my tinitis is a C#
<SilverFox> It's object oriented?
<Greys> the older kind
<SilverFox> Majiir, what have you been up to?
<Greys> women and booze
<Majiir> More booze than women
<SilverFox> the latter seems more likely
<Majiir> and more money than booze
<Majiir> and more code than money
<SilverFox> drink booze, obtain money
<Majiir> and more hot than code
<Greys> code is basically women
<Majiir> only when it's *my* code
<Majiir> and lately it's been deleting or shitting on everyone else's code
<SilverFox> oh! I had my first 해물파전 or whatever the fuck it was, it's pretty great
<Greys> lately?
<Greys> for like, a year it's been that
<SilverFox> oh! I remember the question I had
<Majiir> My IRC client doesn't render hangeul, so I'm going to assume that word is "orgasm"
<SilverFox> Majiir, how do you work around neural net saturation? like you can only train a neural net so much before the changes are minimal and ineffective
<SilverFox> and it seems like that happens rather quickly
<Greys> ok so it's like, an o with a hat, next to a tall H, next to a TV on a cabinet, next to a poorly drawn square, next to a banana peel
<SilverFox> haemul pajeon
<Majiir> haemulpajeon is the shit yo
<SilverFox> ikr
<SilverFox> so worth the 12$
<Majiir> Neural net saturation uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<Majiir> So the ""easy"" fix for that is add more neurons
<Majiir> The problem is then you train slower
<SilverFox> ok
<Majiir> so you're trading one problem for another
<SilverFox> so you're just delaying the inevitable?
<Majiir> Eh it's not quite that
<SilverFox> okay, so it's just a tradeoff moreso
<Majiir> It's more like: You can solve this by throwing more computing resources at the problem... but then that's all you will be doing, and simply throwing resources at it won't help much when computational power is your primary constraint.
<Majiir> Disclaimer: I don't have a practical working knowledge of neural nets. I have some basic mathematical knowledge and some conceptual knowledge and a lot of opinions that aren't backed up by experience.
<SilverFox> fair enough
<Majiir> The "real" fix is to design a better neural net
<SilverFox> oh, I want to replace the keywords in C# with korean ones to further my immersion, how do?
<Majiir> Like if you're trying to identify objects in an image, simply using a bunch of fully-connected layers will *work*, but it's not going to work nearly as well as if you use a few convolutional layers
<Greys> systemic solution always beat trying harder
<Majiir> uh, fork Roslyn and rewrite the compiler
<Majiir> Greys, yep, and this is a little bit at odds with machine learning, where we're intentionally avoiding the systematic solution and instead using sheer volumes of data and a little bit of randomness to help us discover how to build that system.
<SilverFox> alright, I need to change the layout to be more interpretive anyways, since korean if is -면
<SilverFox> so the if goes at the end of the brackets
<Majiir> bruh Koreans speak English
<SilverFox> they speak fucked english
<Majiir> Programming languages are fucked English
<SilverFox> the shit they transliterate pisses me off
<SilverFox> like fuckin, "table"
<Glass|phone> teeburu
<Greys> mirukutee
<SilverFox> I understand using english for foreign things, but like, come the fuck on, yall have had tables for centuries
<xShadowx|2> english > all
<Majiir> I-PEUH EK-SEUH EEK-YOO-ERR-SEUH OUAH-I DEN PRIN-THEUH EK-SEUH EN-DEUH I-PEUH
<Greys> english >= 7
<Glass|phone> enhlish doesn't even have a word for half the things japanese has a word for
<SilverFox> right, and english doesnt have a word for the verb of not knowing, or to not exist
<SilverFox> which btw, which is more suiting for eopsuh, void or null?
<Majiir> ....neither
<Majiir> "isn't"
<xShadowx|2> we bombed japan, therefor said words are irelevant :P
<SilverFox> eopsuh is so far defined as "to not exist"
<Majiir> "There isn't any ice cream"
<Majiir> icecream upseo
<SilverFox> the ice cream doesnt exist
<Majiir> It's the same meaning
<SilverFox> yeah kinda
<Majiir> "kinda"
<Majiir> motherfucker
<Majiir> one version is just dumb-sounding
<Majiir> yours
<SilverFox> I've had titles use eopseo and terms of "not exist"
<Majiir> sure
<SilverFox> in terms of*
<Majiir> sometimes it's better translated that way
<Majiir> sometimes that translation is shit
<Majiir> Translation is all about figuring out the best way to convey the idea
<SilverFox> it's the concept of lack of a thing
<Majiir> If it were about looking up words in a table, then computers would be a lot better at it
<SilverFox> true
<SilverFox> anyways, what korean words better fit void and null?
<SilverFox> without transliterating
<Majiir> dunno
<Majiir> If you're trying to do this for a programming language
<Majiir> then fockin don't
<Majiir> null and void are both horrible ideas
<SilverFox> what's better then?
<Majiir> Not having null and not having void
<Majiir> You don't need them
<SilverFox> so what's the solution
<Majiir> To what?
<SilverFox> there are cases where they happen
<Majiir> Not if you get rid of them
<SilverFox> how would you get rid of them, like.. uhhh, nullrefs, how do you solve that?
<SilverFox> just "getgud", or actually a way of solving it?
<Majiir> You keep phrasing it as if null is required somehow
<Majiir> It really is as simple as *don't make it a thing*
<Majiir> What's an actual situation where not having null would be a problem? and remember that if you didn't have null, simply "someone is giving me null" isn't a valid answer -- since they can't
<SilverFox> like, you reference a thing that doesnt exist, it throws nullref
<Majiir> That's only *because* the thing is null
<Majiir> You don't WANT null reference exceptions
<SilverFox> of course not
<Majiir> Getting rid of null is great BECAUSE it prevents those
<SilverFox> so what would happen instead
<Majiir> You're thinking backwards
<Majiir> There would never be something that is null
<xShadowx|2> list > get object from list > object isnt there > return null, sure you can check if it is there first, but then the time you call get could be entirely different results and it be gone
<Majiir> because null doesn't exist
<SilverFox> like, I can't get my head around how the same code in both situations would give different results
<Majiir> It wouldn't be the same code
<Majiir> because one version would have nulls
<Majiir> and the other wouldn't
<Majiir> xShadowx|2, there's a solution to that but Fox is a little slower so let's get everyone on the same page first
<SilverFox> you access an array, and it doesn't exist anymore, sooo
<SilverFox> also just fyi I have shadow muted
<SilverFox> so not going to get anything he says
<xShadowx|2> Majiir: this conversation suddenly makes sense now, good luck afk lol
<Majiir> "you access an array, and it doesn't exist anymore" <-- why not? how could it not exist?
<Majiir> You have a reference to the array
<SilverFox> right
<Majiir> It has to exist
<SilverFox> okay
<SilverFox> I see, so what happens when you destroy the array?
<SilverFox> would it trigger all references to be destroyed?
<Majiir> How?
<Majiir> In what language can you even do that
<SilverFox> i don't know
<Majiir> You don't "destroy" arrays in most languages used these days
<SilverFox> im trying to make sense of nullrefs not existing
<Majiir> Garbage collection does that
<Majiir> You're not using a real example that happens today
<Majiir> Like
<Majiir> in C#
<Majiir> if you have an array, it doesn't just randomly become null
<Majiir> ever
<Majiir> That's not possible
<SilverFox> right
<SilverFox> I know that, random shit dont happen
<Majiir> So why would we need null
<SilverFox> I need this explained differently
<Majiir> How about this
<SilverFox> because asking me why we would need null isn't helping mny brain
<Majiir> "I call it my billion-dollar mistake." -- the guy who invented Null
<SilverFox> we need null because the reference doesnt point anywhere because it was destroyed
<Majiir> That doesn't happen
<Majiir> In C#, for example, objects are only "destroyed" when they are garbage-collected, which only happens if there *are* no references to the object
<xShadowx|2> Majiir: to be fair, hardware glitches happen and you do lose refs sometime, or bad ram, etc - land of code isnt 100%
<SilverFox> so how does null happen?!
<Majiir> xShadowx|2, that's completely irrelevant to language design
<Majiir> SilverFox, you do something like x = null
<Majiir> that's how
<Majiir> or 'return null'
<Majiir> But if you don't have null, then that can'
<Majiir> t happen.
<SilverFox> ohhhh
<SilverFox> okay
<SilverFox> so what would we use instead of x = null, in the case that it's probably used
<Majiir> xShadowx|2, hardware 'glitches' like that are also exceedingly uncommon, and usually take form as single bit flips, not whole references going to 0x0
<Majiir> SilverFox, it depends on the situation
<SilverFox> right, but like, uhhhhh lemme think of one
<xShadowx|2> Majiir: i wouldnt go so far to say irrelevant, languages that can check and handle said missing data can recover
<SilverFox> oh!
<SilverFox> when you first declare a list, it starts as null
<SilverFox> what should it start as instead?
<SilverFox> empty?
<teabot> Emptea.
<Majiir> xShadowx|2, that's not something that happens at a language level. It's either done at a systems level (multiple nodes using a consensus protocol) or much more low-level (e.g. ECC memory)
<Majiir> SilverFox, a list doesn't start null
<Majiir> var list = new List<string>();
<Majiir> that isn't null
<Majiir> it's a reference to an empty list.
<SilverFox> no, List<int> i;
<xShadowx|2> no ECC in home pc :D
<SilverFox> without the new
<Majiir> SilverFox, you just wouldn't be allowed to do that. Because no nulls.
<SilverFox> right, so either that's a compiler error, or what if it just defaulted to doing that newing thing?
<xShadowx|2> ram is dirt cheap, yet ECC ram still pricey -.-
<Majiir> Let's go with compiler error
<SilverFox> is there a better solution?
<Majiir> The only place where that code would default to null is if it's a *class field*
<Majiir> so all we have to do to fix this is require that class fields are set when the object is constructed
<Majiir> which is pretty easy to do and doesn't really cause problems
<SilverFox> this is making more sense to me now
<Majiir> There are still pitfalls (and solutions) so keep going
<G-Mobile> my fancy collapsable china keyboard has arrived, my hands are a little annoyed by it but I should aclimate fairly quickly
<G-Mobile> the biggest thing right now is that this logo must go, so I'll have to buy some chemicals
<G-Mobile> oddly the including marketing material claims that it's magnetic
<SilverFox> oh you want me to keep listing off null situations
<SilverFox> uhh, what about void situations?
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<SilverFox> is void still acceptable, or how would you replace it?
<Majiir> Void is a little trickier
<G-Mobile> huh, there are actually two magnets in the wings
<Majiir> Let's stick with null for now
<SilverFox> void seems somewhat useful
<Majiir> Understanding why null is bad is pretty easy
<Majiir> Understanding why void is bad takes a lot more leaps
<SilverFox> okay
<Majiir> and I'm not prepared for that one tonight
<SilverFox> stickcing with null
<G-Mobile> you guys should have ythis conversation again in like 2 hours when I'm awake
<SilverFox> okay, we can talk about kpop and the latest MVs that came out
<SilverFox> Majiir, have you been keeping recent with the MVs taht are coming out?
<Majiir> -.-
<SilverFox> I found out the girl group Berry Good existed
<kmath> YouTube - [MV] Berry Good(베리굿) _ BibbidiBobbidiBoo(비비디바비디부)
<SilverFox> made this song, which is nice, and I think I found a new haunter here
<SilverFox> that chick on the rightest right
<Greys> ;wa 210mAh / 2.5mA
<SilverFox> she isn't seen that often
<kmath> Greys: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish
<Greys> really?
<Greys> you used to could do this
<SilverFox> ~c 210 / 2.5
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 84.0
<SilverFox> 84 hours?
<Greys> and that's at 1v?
<SilverFox> uhh
<SilverFox> maybe
<Majiir> It's probably at the battery's rated voltage
<Greys> ok so voltage is irrelevant
<Majiir> It would cancel out yeah
<SilverFox> for watthours the voltage is relevant
<SilverFox> iirc
<SilverFox> OH Majiir, TIL 4 = 3
<SilverFox> my math class is great
<SilverFox> i.imgur.com/beIKBqX.png
<G-Mobile> I have a god damn tilde now
<SilverFox> oh Greys, google keyboards got rid of <> from the keyboard, but not the icon that you press to shift keyboards
<SilverFox> so like, to get to the second page of symbols I press "=\<" button
<G-Mobile> so by the numbers this keyboard has 84 hours of battery life; they have estimated 4, but that's not fair because surely bluetooth connection is more active while I type, so there should be standby and constant typing durations
<SilverFox> but <> dont exist
<G-Mobile> 64*
<G-Mobile> <> are on either side of the space bar on one screen
<SilverFox> yeah, except they aren't anymore
<G-Mobile> I used gboard for a few days until they updated it and broke my workflow
<SilverFox> it's , and . now
<SilverFox> well, it's , 1234 space_bar .
<G-Mobile> prior to the update it would stay at the numpad pretty aggressively, after the update it would return to the alphabet page very aggressively
<SilverFox> google keyboards gets fucked with kakaotalk for me
<SilverFox> which is pretty sucky
<SilverFox> because I use kakao often
<G-Mobile> luckily a new workflow with google sheets leverages my stock keyboard effectively
<G-Mobile> just in the early unoptimized testing this new workflow reduced the process time by 40~50%
<SilverFox> oh Majiir, have you seen the drama abeojiga isanghae?
<SilverFox> it's apparently the popular drama right now
<G-Mobile> last night I did the optimization so that testing is tonight and I'm expecting to see 50~55%
<SilverFox> those are some pretty good looking numbers
<G-Mobile> I wish this keyboard was 20% taller
<G-Mobile> it's the difference between 20 minutes and 40 minutes for a thing I do every 2~3 hours
<SilverFox> that's pretty significant
<SilverFox> oh, I also ate kimchijjigae and that was pretty nice
<Majiir> I'm gonna have oatmeal
<SilverFox> sounds very not fun
<Greys> me too
<SilverFox> oh yeah, dont know if you've beeen keeping up with news, but people in korea are scared because jim jeong eun is being an asshole again and trump is participating and war is about to start
<SilverFox> pretty scary shit
<Majiir> so it's Tuesday
<Majiir> I find it highly unlikely that Koreans are scared
<SilverFox> also the north korean military released a video of them nuking america
<SilverFox> "Yo girl, on a scale from 1-america, how free are you tonight?" "North Korea"
<G-Mobile> in america, releasing a video of committing violence against a person, could really easily qualify as a threat
<SilverFox> Im rather sure it was meant as a threat
<SilverFox> the two have been waving their tiny dicks at each other for the past month
<Majiir> past 65-70 years*
<SilverFox> naw, talkin bout trump and kim
<SilverFox> oh shit, Majiir, what's some other use cases for null that can be removed?
<Majiir> all of them
<SilverFox> send examples
<Majiir> ....why
<Majiir> It's not like we have to think of every situation where we can get rid of null
<Majiir> We just get rid of it and then ask what that breaks
<SilverFox> because we were talking about it and im curious about other uses of null that I forgot about
<Majiir> and then fix those things
<Majiir> Mostly two things
<Majiir> 1. people using null to represent 'uninitialized' data
<Majiir> 2. using null to represent 'missing' or 'removed' data
<Majiir> 3. using null to represent failures or other error situations
<Majiir> that's three things
<Majiir> People don't use null to count
<SilverFox> dont worry, if 4 = 3, im sure 3 = 2
<SilverFox> thusly, you listed 4 things
<Majiir> I don't have clothes for tomorrow
<Majiir> ohwell
<SilverFox> go naked
<SilverFox> let the jiircock roam free like it was meant to be
<Majiir> that would be cold
<Greys> the ferocity of your erection will heat the world
<Majiir> My network is a bit weird right now
<Majiir> I'm testing VPN connections from my phone into my network
<Majiir> So it uses 4G, which happens to be talking to a device in my laundry room
<Majiir> which talks to my switch
<Majiir> which talks to my router
<SilverFox> counting to 10 in vietnamese
<Majiir> which talks back to my switch
<Majiir> which talks to the modem
<Majiir> which talks to my ISP
<Majiir> which sends this data to the cell carrier's servers
<Majiir> which sends it back to my ISP
<Majiir> which sends it to my modem
<Majiir> to my switch, to my router
<Majiir> where the packets are decrypted and unencapsulated and then sent back to switch and on to the rest of the network
<SilverFox> OH! I was talking to a native korean, fully korean, bo halfblood shit, and her accent was like that of french-canadian
<SilverFox> it was so weird
<SilverFox> I could understand her english just fine, and she had no troubles with pronounciation except those r/l sounds and when she spoke korean her voice barely changed
<SilverFox> she doesnt use frenchcanadian resources either
<Greys> if you have a room that is limited to 20 occupants, and there are 15 human shaped robots inhabited by humanesque AI in the room, how many humans can enter the room before the fire department has a problem with this situation
<Majiir> "fully korean" "has trouble with r/l"
<Majiir> Greys, 35, which is about the same as if it's real humans
<Majiir> maybe more like 40-45
<SilverFox> yeah, asian languages melt the r and l sounds together
<Majiir> I'm aware
<Greys> that's not a language thing
<SilverFox> she tried saying ball and it came out as bore
<Greys> bore? not boru?
<SilverFox> yeah
<SilverFox> bore
<SilverFox> or boar
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<Greys> borr
<Greys> ball, boar, and borr end in a halt; bore has a trail; but then boar has a diphthong
<kmath> YouTube - Montreal Girls
<SilverFox> it is hard to find a french canadian speaking english, but you got to any canadian, ask them what a french canadian speaking english sounds like and they'll all give hte same answer
<kmath> YouTube - ACCENT TAG! Québec (French Canadians)
<SilverFox> this
<SilverFox> she talked like this
<Greys> sounds like murka
<SilverFox> definitely not murka
<SilverFox> definitely quebec
<Greys> I find it weird that pink girl has a very wide face and blue girl has a very tall face
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<SilverFox> yet I wonder which has a small face
<SilverFox> I haven't been able to determine the factors for defining a small face
<Greys> definitely tall face
<SilverFox> also, wtf is the 'standard' dialect for english?
<SilverFox> like, when you learn korean, you learn the standard korean, which is what they speak in seoul
<Majiir> Midwest
<SilverFox> so what's the equivalent for english?
<Majiir> Radio announcer voice
<Greys> the aspect ratio of facial features tends to be constrained; so if you extend the vertical space that the features occupy, they will contact teh sides and expand vertically to a limit; where as if you move the sides out it will fill the available space more readily
<SilverFox> wherethefuck is the midwest
<Greys> america comes in 3 flavors, the midwest, california, and texas
<SilverFox> Greys, instructions unclear, faces look like from gary's mod
<SilverFox> okay but lets be honest
<SilverFox> dakota's sound like canadians
<SilverFox> sort of
<Greys> all of the south except for florida is culturally texas; the northeast is largely not separate culturally from the midwest, but where they have ports we have factories
<Majiir> uh
<Majiir> wrong on the northeast
<Greys> that's what you think
<Greys> because midwesterners like to dispute stuff
<SilverFox> GOTTEM
<Greys> accent wise, newyork, chicago, and detroit are distinct but similar
<SilverFox> what about boston?
<SilverFox> I know they have a distinct accent
<Greys> it's unique and dissimilar
<Majiir> New York is pretty distinctive
<SilverFox> my sister is in new york right now
<SilverFox> I'll give ya a buck 20 to punch her out
<Greys> majiir isn't in newyork
<Majiir> $120K USD? done
<SilverFox> wiring you the money now
<Majiir> kk pls send to my nigerian account
<SilverFox> sent
<Majiir> wow not received what scam
<SilverFox> do you also accept blank cheques?
<SilverFox> Greys, ever tried the pixelmon mod for minecraft?
<SilverFox> it's pretty bitchin
<SilverFox> dude composes music dedicated to that mod
<kmath> YouTube - Pixelmon OST - Pixelmon Waltz (2016)
<Greys> once back when it was new
<Greys> it sucked
<SilverFox> it's improved over the years
<Greys> this was a loooong time before I came to this community
<SilverFox> music is 10/10 on its own
<SilverFox> it was poopy back when it first started, but it's come a long way
<Greys> I accept your argument and file this away in the cake room
<Majiir> I'm too old for this shit, does "punch her out" mean sleep with her or what
<SilverFox> no, physically knock her out
<Majiir> because I'm imagining like one of those voter cards with the punch holes
<Majiir> .....why would I go physically knock out your sister
<SilverFox> no sexing, she's a minor
<SilverFox> because she's a cunt
<Greys> punch her out means to represent her rights in government fairly
<Majiir> I'm gonna need like at least $10M for this, and it's gonna need to be in foreign countries
<Greys> (canada doesn't qualify as a foreign country for any crime related crimes)
<SilverFox> naw, you have 1 day to get it done for 3 bottles of bananamilk from korea
<Majiir> I'd probably sex your sister for $120K if she wasn't a minor, minor means the price is like $20M
<SilverFox> minor means the price is nothing you little shit
<SilverFox> there is no sexing a minor
<Majiir> I mean it's not an automatic yes, but for $20M I'd consider it
<Majiir> Silly Fox
<Majiir> Morality isn't absolute
<SilverFox> legalty is more absolute
<SilverFox> especially when it comes to sexing a minor as a male
<Majiir> I bet for $20M I could get citizenship somewhere it's legal
<SilverFox> if you were female tho... that's more like 50 shades of grey area
<SilverFox> for 20M you could get a lot of rune scimmys
<Majiir> More importantly, with $20M I could use a chunk of that to get her to give up her US citizenship
<Majiir> and then pocket the rest
<SilverFox> she is canadian
<Majiir> Well then who cares
<SilverFox> she has no citizenship in merica
<SilverFox> also she gets the 1k to go to newyork but I dont get to go to korea
<SilverFox> after 6 months of working on learning the language
<SilverFox> she doesnt even try to learn the language of the people
<Majiir> Canada and the US probably have an extradition agreement
<SilverFox> a wat
<Majiir> but if she's Canadian then it's just cheaper to get her to renounce
<SilverFox> it's free to punch her face tho
<Majiir> No no, you're paying
<SilverFox> also, im going to state that having a large mouth is the worst to have of the large facial features
<Majiir> Once she's not a citizen, I'd say $20K is enough for all the travel, food, lodging and drugs that will be necessary
<SilverFox> hoooold up a bit
<SilverFox> break down the costs for me here
<SilverFox> why is there drugs and lodging
<Majiir> so we're talking $1.02M in operational expenses and $120K in prostitution fees, which leaves ~$18.8 million in profit for me -- not bad
<Majiir> I mean
<Majiir> depending on what your sister looks like, the drugs are either for me or her or both
<SilverFox> she's about like, a 5
<SilverFox> so understandable
<SilverFox> I will pay for the alcohol
<SilverFox> but not the prostitution wtf
<SilverFox> she's a minor
<Majiir> She's not the prostitute, I am
<SilverFox> pimping out my sister wtf
<Majiir> Nah you're just helping her out
<Majiir> That's not pimping at all
<SilverFox> she wants to be an accountant
<Majiir> She can still be an accountant after she sleeps with me
<Majiir> I could even hire her and she can help me manage my $18M
<SilverFox> dude
<SilverFox> that's some twisted shit
<Majiir> Y'know, she probably doesn't even have to renounce her citizenship
<Majiir> She just has to either (a) not know it was me or (b) not care
* xShadowx|2 switches to channel
* xShadowx|2 sees pedo talk
* xShadowx|2 changes channel
<Majiir> Let's be very clear about something
<Majiir> This is about money
<SilverFox> I can tell
<Majiir> I did say *twenty million dollars*
<Majiir> I'm not risking prison time for less than that
<Majiir> plus $20M * 0.04 = ~$800K/year safe withdrawal rate, that's plenty to pay for underage prostitutes
<SilverFox> nigga there isn't a *risk*
<SilverFox> it's a guarantee
<Majiir> Pft, how
<SilverFox> cause I can call the cops after you punch her out and shit
<Majiir> You're the one paying
<Majiir> You'll be criminally liable
<Majiir> I can be all well sir someone offered me twenty million dollars, I had a lapse in judgment
<SilverFox> you're doing the act, you can't pull a sunbae in america
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<Majiir> You? You're paying twenty million dollars to have your sister raped by a foreign man
<SilverFox> that is not what im signing on for
<Majiir> plus for a piece of that $20M, I can hire a much better lawyer than you or your sister can
<SilverFox> all you gotta do is punch her out yo
<SilverFox> in fact, I'll just get Greys to do it for less
<Majiir> I mean assault is gonna cost more
<SilverFox> nigga u fuckin wot
<Majiir> Sleeping with her, eh, I could convince her she likes it. Assault? That's not gonna work, she'll sue no matter what.
<Majiir> Penalty is lower, but it's much more guaranteed
<Majiir> so that'll be at least like $50M
<Majiir> plus I'd have to work out and shit in order to get in shape enough to knock someone out in one hit
<SilverFox> money is no object to you, i'll just hire greys
<SilverFox> brass knuckles
<Majiir> Money is totally an object to me
<SilverFox> you have too much of it
<Majiir> "too much"
<Majiir> how much is too much
<SilverFox> more than greys
<Majiir> lol
<Majiir> "too much"
<SilverFox> Greys would do it for travel costs, a croissant, a raspi, and probably a manga
<Majiir> I doubt that
<SilverFox> and she'd still do a better job
<Majiir> but even if it were true, that only means Greys makes poor life decisions when it comes to assaultingpeople
<SilverFox> no, it means her cost of operations isn't absurd
<SilverFox> absurdly high anyways
<Majiir> Whoa my operational expenses were quite reasonable
<SilverFox> not even close
<Majiir> So how much are *you* gonna whore out for?
<SilverFox> for a 20th of that price I could get her murdered
<SilverFox> actually killed, with no trace
<Majiir> I mean imagine you are set for life in the sense that you'll never have to come close to whoring yourself out, ever -- what price would you put on doing it anyway?
<TheKosmonaut> What the fuck are you all on about
<Majiir> Fox wants me to rape his underage sister and then kill her
<TheKosmonaut> Yeah
<Majiir> and I want at least $70M for both
<TheKosmonaut> No
<SilverFox> pfffffffffft
<SilverFox> k so majiir what are you asking
<Majiir> and Fox thinks that my $120K surcharge for prostituting myself is excessive
<TheKosmonaut> This network lets a lot of shit slide. But even joking about this topic gets a paddling from the NetOps
<TheKosmonaut> Unless you wanna get g/k-lined then go ahead.
<SilverFox> idk how much i'm worth whoring out for
<SilverFox> like, what do I have to do, just sex?
<darklight> sf I know its a few hours late, but doesn't within a std deviation include + or -?, You went 73-6 instead of 73+6 which was an answer
<Majiir> with someone who I'd describe as a 5, yeah
<SilverFox> uhhh
<Majiir> actually no
<Majiir> with someone who xShadowx describes as a 5
<TheKosmonaut> No seriously guys, drop this topic.
<TheKosmonaut> I let a lot of shit go but this is too much
<Majiir> TK, Fox whoring out is too much?
<Majiir> That's not even illegal in most places
<TheKosmonaut> When it describes a minor then yes it is too much.
<SilverFox> darklight, z-score was positive, so only the +
<SilverFox> rather, it was positive, so you had to subtract
<Majiir> It wasn't, but even so -- relax, nobody's sleeping with any minors, nobody's advocating sleeping with any minors and I for one don't even *know* any minors
<darklight> Kk, cos I saw 79 there and got threw off by your 73-6
<TheKosmonaut> I don't want the NetOps getting wind of the shit in here and banning everyone. They're very low tolerance with that.
<Majiir> And even if none of that were true, lawdy people are far too uptight about 'unspeakables'
<Majiir> Noted
<SilverFox> Majiir, so like, I can't translate what that 5 would be
<Majiir> SilverFox, assume the worst, because I certainly assume *you* have no taste
<TheKosmonaut> Too uptight about discussion of sex with minors Majiir ?
<SilverFox> is this person even cute?
<darklight> TK we nearly had korea klined :(
<darklight> Lol
<Majiir> TK, yes, I'd say so
<Majiir> Make me the demon if you want, but I'm not, and no reasonable person would think so
<Majiir> If you feel that *we the channel* are at risk because of my discussion, then y'know what, I'll self-censor so that YOU do not get klined.
<Majiir> Let's not pretend for a second anyone's censorship deserves respect
<Majiir> Let's also not pretend I'm a pedophile
<TheKosmonaut> I am moderating this channel. Quite frankly, this channel goes downhill but *I* and the network do draw lines at topics of that nature.
<SilverFox> I ate lasagna
<Majiir> Alright. Like I said, I'll respect your concern for whatever the netops will do.
<SilverFox> Majiir, is this person male or female?
<TheKosmonaut> s/moderating/a moderator
<Qboid> TheKosmonaut meant to say: I am a moderator this channel. Quite frankly, this channel goes downhill but *I* and the network do draw lines at topics of that nature.
<TheKosmonaut> ... for*
<Majiir> I definitely have zero respect for *your* personal moderating position on the matter, but that's irrelevant
<Majiir> SilverFox, ...idk, whatever your preference? You're ambiguous
<SilverFox> uhhhhhhh
<SilverFox> are they korean?
<Majiir> no
<SilverFox> ehhhh that doesnt help
<SilverFox> ~roll 1 d2
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox: 2 Total = 2
<SilverFox> female it is
<SilverFox> are there STDs involved?
<Majiir> Probably not
<SilverFox> hmm
<SilverFox> is it a monogamous thing, or multiple people in me?
<Majiir> Let's go with one for baseline
<SilverFox> okay, I do bulk pricing tho
<Majiir> Bulk pricing is when people buy more of you, not when more people buy one of you
<SilverFox> the price you pay is for me fucking 1 person, that price doubles minus some for 2 people and 3 times minus 2x some for 3 people
<SilverFox> with a floor cutoff at 5 people
<SilverFox> where it's half of 5x 1 person price
<Majiir> I wouldn't even price by person. I'd just do rebates for attractiveness.
<SilverFox> alright, I can work with that
<SilverFox> we're talking salary right?
<Majiir> ....what? no
<Majiir> Prostitutes aren't salaried
<Majiir> It's a fee
<SilverFox> listen, I need reliable income
<Majiir> So work for a prostitution agency, this ain't that
<SilverFox> and it's cheaper if you salary than if you 1-time pay me
<Majiir> That's not true
<SilverFox> for a year, I'd do 160k with vacation, medical benefits, and dental
<Majiir> Yeah but how much do you work in a year?
<Majiir> and how much vacation are you talking
<SilverFox> 9-4 weekdays
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<SilverFox> enough vacation I wont get fired for my trip
<Majiir> Let's say four weeks, plus holidays
<Majiir> Pretty generous vaca policy
<SilverFox> alright, i'll do that for 200k
<Majiir> bruh
<Majiir> what
<SilverFox> changed my mind
<Majiir> ok
<Majiir> still
<SilverFox> now if you work that out per hour session
<Majiir> You would whore yourself out to relatively ugly people (women that xShadowx rates a 5) seven hours a day weekdays
<Majiir> for about what a software engineer makes in NYC
<SilverFox> oh shit, do I get overtime pay?
<Majiir> no
<Majiir> you're salaried
<SilverFox> aw fuck
<Majiir> in fact
<Majiir> you may be required to work overtime *without* pay
<xShadowx|2> any reason you keep pinging me about rating people?:P
<Majiir> because you're salaried
<SilverFox> nice
<Majiir> Thought that wouldn't ping you without the |2, my bad
<xShadowx|2> why you using me to compare shit XD
<SilverFox> he needs to fix his nick, had to add a new ignore definition because of it
<Majiir> because Fox probably thinks your taste in women is about as bad as I think Fox's taste in women is
<SilverFox> cluttering my list
<teabot> Cluttearing.
<SilverFox> I prefer cute over sexy
<Majiir> There's a universe of options besides those two
<SilverFox> now are these people just averagly unattractive but skinny, or unattractive because fat?
<Majiir> Dunno, could be a mix
<SilverFox> or some combination ugly + fat
<Majiir> Maybe xS is suuuuuper picky and they'll all be gorgeous
<SilverFox> well, since im salaried, is tehre still compensation for attractiveness rating?
<Majiir> or maybe xS is a desperate whiteknight and they'll all be whales
<Majiir> No
<Majiir> You're salaried
<SilverFox> figured
<SilverFox> is the pay monthly or biweekly, or weekly?
<Majiir> Biweekly
<Majiir> as if it should matter
<Majiir> Once you're at that level you don't care when your paycheck comes in
<SilverFox> okay so is cost of living + housing + food covered in the contract or no?
<Majiir> wat? no
<Majiir> You're salaried
<Majiir> That's what covers your costs
<SilverFox> okay
<Majiir> You'll also have to pay regular taxes on this so your take-home income is closer to $130K
<Majiir> and you didn't ask about retirement funds, so we'll assume there's a 401k or similar but the match is average-ish at like 4%
<Majiir> so after you max that you've got $112K to play with
<SilverFox> ok
<SilverFox> seems fair
<Majiir> Seems like a bad deal to me :?
<Majiir> then again
<SilverFox> cause you have access to better shit
<Majiir> I write code instead of slobbering on cocks all day
<Majiir> Not something I ever thought I'd be saying in a serious comparison
<SilverFox> this was an exercise in how people of differing income levels view money
<Majiir> It's not so much different income *levels* as much as income *potential*
<SilverFox> point is still the same
<Majiir> but also potentially other stuff
<Majiir> like certain views on self-worth, how prostitution would impact that if at all, how much you enjoy sex in general, etc etc etc
<SilverFox> yeah that too
<SilverFox> do you like chanmi?
<Majiir> She waved at me
<Majiir> She's nice
<SilverFox> you like seolhyun?
<Majiir> nah
<Majiir> how aboot a soogie berr
<SilverFox> you like hyejeong?
<Majiir> you mean dongdong
<SilverFox> yeah
<Majiir> nah
<SilverFox> https://www.facebook.com/tvnsnl/videos/1373764196051456/ have a dongdong getting her dongdong sucked
<SilverFox> you like the ugly jimin?
<Majiir> stahp
<SilverFox> also, what's your opinion on translating the korean phrase hwaiting into english as "fighting" and using it in english context? I think it's weird and shouldn't be done because it's a thing we dont do
<SilverFox> oh apparently there's a kdrama airing in murka
<Majiir> Eh, at some point you have to just learn the phrases
<Majiir> like "oppa" and "hwaiting"
<Majiir> which really don't have an easy translation most of the time
<SilverFox> nawnawnaw, I mean koreans using the phrases in english language
<Majiir> I mean
<Majiir> They should be aware that English speakers don't say that so it doesn't come across as weird
<Majiir> but if someone knows it's a Korean thing and does it anyway, that's fine
<SilverFox> like, they are englsh phrases used in korean culture, so I think they are better suited for korean culture and when the aim is to learn what english speakers use, they should at least know that we dont use it and I'd recommend against them using it because we wont know what the fuck it is and there'll be a thing of misunderstanding and blah blah blah
<Majiir> sure
<SilverFox> aight cool
<SilverFox> also, I taught a person the difference between ear and year
<SilverFox> pronounciation wise
<SilverFox> was fucking amazing to finally get results
<Majiir> How'd you manage that?
<SilverFox> uhhhh
<SilverFox> lots of sound comparison slowly, and explaination of mouth, tongue, and thraot movement
<SilverFox> this was also french-canadian korean girl
<SilverFox> whos pronounciation was already great, but she did struggle with ear and year at first, but it took her about 15 minutes to finally get it
<darklight> Wouldn't being korean make them not french-canadian
<SilverFox> darklight, she spoke as if she was french-canadian
<SilverFox> she had the accent
<Majiir> and she's in Canada?
<SilverFox> it was so weird
<SilverFox> no, in korea
<SilverFox> with no french-canadian influences
<SilverFox> it's fucked
<Majiir> Oh so just 'has an accent'
<SilverFox> when she speaks korean she sounds the same
<SilverFox> just...koreanized
<darklight> It kinda reminds me of "african-american britian"
<TheKosmonaut> Strangest accent I heard was a Japanese girl that learned English in Italy
<SilverFox> yanno, black people with english accents fuck with me more than a black guy who spoke korean
<TheKosmonaut> Her face said "raw fish yes pls" but her voice said "eyyy gimme dat a carpaccio!"
<TheKosmonaut> SilverFox: idris Elba
<SilverFox> wat
<TheKosmonaut> Black man with a very English accent.
<SilverFox> anyways, holy shit knowing it can be done; teaching the y sound, felt amazing
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<SilverFox> she still has to wind up to it, like "ye ye ye ye, year" but it isn't a stutter, just making sure she has the sound down, so all it comes down to is practice
<darklight> You taught her to YEE?
<darklight> yeeeee
<SilverFox> ~yt wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah ye
<kmath> YouTube - Wah Wah Ye Khani Moul Soun By Begum Bilkis & Gh. Hassan
<SilverFox> naw
<kmath> YouTube - Yee
<SilverFox> I taught her this yes
<SilverFox> I am truly the pinnacle of linguistic teaching
<xShadowx|2> who would you respect more, whores or ex wives?
<xShadowx|2> i pick whores, they earn their money, ex wives get handfed money through alimony
<darklight> I lack experience in either department, but whores are just people doing a job for a living so *shrugs*
<r4m0n> you're assuming ex-wives can't be whores?
<darklight> Depends on the reason for the ex wife, and what you lose :P
<kmath> YouTube - Frank Reynolds Saying Whore
<SilverFox> my dog is ticklish
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<SilverFox> yo r4m0n, can we get an opping of qboid?
<r4m0n> it's a bot, right?
<SilverFox> voice, is what I meant
<r4m0n> yeah, just making sure :-)
<SilverFox> foxbot and soozee are voiced
<SilverFox> so qboid should too, but not kmath
<SilverFox> kmath can suck a dick
<ChanServ> r4m0n set flags +AV on Qboid.
<xShadowx|2> qboid > kmath > rest
<SilverFox> ayyy
<xShadowx|2> other bots just useless
<darklight> kmath master race
<darklight> Although banning all bots is also nice
<SilverFox> if kmath is so good, why isn't it voiced???
<SilverFox> checkmate atheist
<xShadowx|2> eh id ban all but keep qboid, useful from a dev perspective
<darklight> "two birds stoned with one bush"
<G-Mobile> kmath couldn't suck a dick if you cut a hole yourself
<SilverFox> HA
<SilverFox> Greys, you missed a rather amazing conversation between me and jiir
<SilverFox> shit escalated rather quickly
<Glass|phone> aaah my back
<Glass|phone> I wish buses did not exist
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<G-Mobile> I wish busses around here were useful
<Glass|phone> G-Mobile: chartered bus
<Glass|phone> never use the city buses in tokyo
<Glass|phone> maybe I should considering I live in a place where rail is only convenient in one direction
<TheKosmonaut> Glass|phone: the city busses here are so overpriced
<TheKosmonaut> Unless you're an old bag.
<Glass|phone> how many bus operators are there? about as many as railway operators?
<TheKosmonaut> Near me? Toei and Keisei
<G-Mobile> tokyo has buses?
<G-Mobile> where do they drive? the air?
<Glass|phone> I bet there isn't even any bus I could use since they seem to be focusing on getting people from and to the nearest station
<Glass|phone> .w street
<Glass|phone> hmm
<Glass|phone> anyway there's things called street
<TheKosmonaut> I could take a bus for 45 minutes from Ikebukuro to where I used to live for 210 yen, or the train and be there in half the time for 170(?)
<Glass|phone> lol
<Glass|phone> but ike is a rail hub
<G-Mobile> I've seen japan streets in anime, they're like 3 meters wide and full of parked cars and pedestrians
<TheKosmonaut> Glass|phone: there are like 10 busses that terminate/start there
<Glass|phone> TheKosmonaut: well you know I live in suginami-ku
<TheKosmonaut> G-Mobile: if you fucking use anime as an accurate descriptor for what Tokyo is again I swear to Odin I'm gonna seppuku so hard that my children's ghosts will haunt you.
<G-Mobile> how do I suffer from this threat....
<Glass|phone> I want something that goes in a direction other than east-west
<TheKosmonaut> G-Mobile: haunting
<Glass|phone> keio inokashira kind of goes diagonal but only to shibuya where I can go with JR cheaper and faster
<G-Mobile> but I don't believe in ghosts
<TheKosmonaut> G-Mobile: fine. Then I'll make you seppuku instead.
<G-Mobile> I'm too danish for that
<Glass|phone> TheKosmonaut: you can hate anime for everything except the fucking scenery though
<TheKosmonaut> Reeeeeeeeee
<TheKosmonaut> Weeb get out reeeeeee
<Glass|phone> even the worst mainstream shit has pretty amazing background art
<G-Mobile> flying witch bro
<G-Mobile> flying witch and chill
<TheKosmonaut> Glass|phone: what she described was 下町 like shit that anime loves to romanticize.
<Glass|phone> TheKosmonaut: you call me a weeb while I'm on a bus full of programmers and seiyu
<G-Mobile> why is youtube advertising wine at me
<Glass|phone> G-Mobile: because you should drown your problems with class
<G-Mobile> but class tastes gross
<Rokker> Glass|phone: what the fuck is seiyu you fucking weeb
<Glass|phone> anyway Greys, you might be shocked to hear that the single lane streets are not where the traffic flows and that they are only used by cars and kei trucks that have to stop in front of a specific door
<TheKosmonaut> Arteries and veins
<G-Mobile> but japan has trains and trains and subways and upways and also they walk a lot
<Glass|phone> Rokker: voice actor
<G-Mobile> what good are streets in a world of trains and trains
<Rokker> Glass|phone: so ur literally admitting to being a weeb
<Rokker> glad we cleared that up
<Glass|phone> Rokker: two years down the line I'm gonna get fucking paid for it so shut up
<Glass|phone> how much cash have you made with military aviation yet
<TheKosmonaut> Yes
<TheKosmonaut> All the cash
<TheKosmonaut> Glass|phone: I met a Jordanian woman that works for Sq Enix, she's been there for a few years. She's still a weeby ass weeb though.
<Rokker> Glass|phone: aerospace engineers make more than programmers...
<TheKosmonaut> I meet people that work here for years and they're still weaboos
<TheKosmonaut> Rokker: what about aerospace programmers
<Glass|phone> TheKosmonaut: natural selection, non weebs become 過労死
<Glass|phone> because they have to masturbate *after* work which means they have no time left
<Glass|phone> Rokker: so are you an aerospace engineer
<kmath> <CutPics> I don't think that's going to work. https://t.co/ZRpU1FY8UM
<Glass|phone> I really want to get off this fucking bus but should probably wait until it is not moving AND in tokyo
<Glass|phone> there's a military truck here
<Rokker> Glass|phone: not yet
<Glass|phone> there's a sticker on the bus saying it has passed the safety inspection
<G-Mobile> you got other things you can see?
<Glass|phone> clouds
<Glass|phone> this area is definitely suburban
<G-Mobile> on a scale from 0 to 1, how many atoms can you see
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<Glass|phone> G-Mobile: 1
<Glass|phone> I can make out tokyo skytree in the fog
<G-Mobile> skytree? is that the thing from that one anime where bob dole and bob villa had to fight the apparent savior who turned out to be a space monster?
<G-Mobile> wow, this building, I'm glad we don't have it
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<Rokker> Glass|phone: night weeb
<Glass|phone> fuck you
<darklight> Get a rooooom
<Glass|phone> so this is my third time on the shutokou, and the first one doesn't count
<Glass|phone> so the shutokou or metropolitan expressway is this road that runs between the high rises in 10, 20 meters height
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<G-Mobile> it's not my fault it's an ugly disproportionate stick
<Supernovy> as the actress said to the bishop.
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<Greys> are there modern recoilless rifles?
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<G-Mobile> SilverFox: i have a usecase that needs an installed pi in a location where it cannot easily be wired in for power, do you know of any induction charging systems to get power without a physical connection or contact?
<G-Mobile> Short range is not an issue, it just needs to be briefly wireless
<r4m0n> there's a bunch of wireless chargers for cell phones that might work (the Pi is a bit power hungry)
<darklight> G-Mobile: How long does it need to be installed for?
<G-Mobile> Permanently
<darklight> I think you should try to convince someone to run power :P
<G-Mobile> Its going to be on a door, it needs to run on battery while the door is open, and charge off the coil bridge while closed
<darklight> Why is it on a door?
<G-Mobile> because thats irrelevant to the question at hand
<darklight> I don't think it is
<darklight> Also, doors have hinges, so it's not as if you couldn't run power to a door
<darklight> Unless it's a slidey door
<darklight> Fuck those things :P
<r4m0n> if you want a cheap solution, just have contacts close when the door is closed
<r4m0n> but a simple wireless charger should work fine for charging the battery
<darklight> You only need like 5-10W or something :P
<darklight> I can't think of a reason you'd put a pi on a door though
<G-Mobile> You dont need to
<darklight> If you want to detect door openings, you'd do that with a limit switch or even something like a infrared led/sensor pair
<G-Mobile> irrelevant
<r4m0n> something like this + charger should work for you https://www.amazon.com/Docooler-Wireless-Charger-Charging-Receiver/dp/B00D2V6SDW/
<G-Mobile> Perhaps but then I'll have to make the power control circuit
<r4m0n> you'll need a 5V booster anyway to power from a battery
<G-Mobile> ideally it would be a set of coils with a pcb where one has a lipo charge/drain circuit
<G-Mobile> No i dont, pi can run off lipo voltages
<darklight> You're kidding :P
<r4m0n> well, just stick this in the LiPo and you'll be fine :-)
<G-Mobile> It has built in regulation
<darklight> I highly doubt you can feed 4.2-3.5v into the usb and have it magically work :P
<darklight> And a 5v boost converter with low voltage cutout for lipos probably costs like $1 on ebay
<r4m0n> the Pi has indeed a linear regulator in it, it runs at 3.3v
<darklight> I'm going to maintain that if you truely want a pi on a door, I'd be running an extension lead to it. It's not hard to attach an extension lead to a door. Rather than fucking around with batteries and converters
<darklight> If it's an LDO it might work on 1s
<G-Mobile> Nobody gives a shit what you think about things outside the scope of the question
<G-Mobile> Air core coils are worse than ferite core coils, but does it need to be a contiguous coil between the coils?
<G-Mobile> Contiguous core*
<darklight> It's essentially a transformer you are trying to build
<darklight> The core would make a "magnetic path" up the guts of the coils
<G-Mobile> Aaaand
<darklight> I think some type of core is better than no core at all, but you'd have to verify that by testing
<G-Mobile> you're battin' like two today man
<kmath> YouTube - Air core and iron core coils
<darklight> That's a bit odd though as it's not two coils
<darklight> https://youtu.be/y0WrKT45ZZU?t=126 a bit more applicable to your application :P
<kmath> YouTube - Transformers - Experiments and Demos
<darklight> http://www.instructables.com/id/my-small-transformer/ at least I got a good laugh
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<VITAS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgd8Qw1jv7s finaly Trump Wall Simulator 2017 is a thing!
<kmath> YouTube - TrumpWallSimulator2017.com - Release Trailer
<darklight> You know that quote at the end might just be my favourite quote of his
<darklight> https://youtu.be/daOH-pTd_nk the bit from 29 seconds makes it :P
<kmath> YouTube - Donald Trump: You gonna win so much you may even get tired of winning
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<darklight> And besides, there's other things to worry about besides agent orange now - the france election, although I suspect it'll be their second runoff election that actually means something
<VITAS> i triy not to follow politics these days so much
<VITAS> it would make me yell and cry at the same time
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<VITAS> mmuch like baseball or soccer does with some ppl
<VITAS> :D
<VITAS> in other news: just cut the wrong wire and spacedock went down. Got imidiate reactons in bold large letters on the forums :D
<VITAS> nice to know my work is valued
<VITAS> :P
<xShadowx|2> VITAS: i triez install file from site but no work how you from site make ksp work mod and use i cant file from site
<xShadowx|2> :P
<xShadowx|2> just typing that hurt my head
<VITAS> and im stuck in a reading loop
<VITAS> :D
<kmath> YouTube - An Hour of Jeopardy Think Music
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<SilverFox> ````++++++++
<SilverFox> my keyboard got fucked so I had to plug in my spare
<SilverFox> Greys, fox solution is to have a cheap wireless charging pad for smartphones on the top of the door, and then the receiving battery at the top of the door door, so it swings into place to charge and fits in the same amount of space those automatic door openers do\
<SilverFox> or get the door to swing contacts into place
<SilverFox> the latter will allow for more current to pass through more easily and wont create interference
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<SilverFox> and the swinging contacts mean lower cost, and lower profile compared to the wireless solution
<SilverFox> and if someone with a wireless charging compat phone walks under the wireless charger, and it's backwards, it might fuck with their battery depending on how cheap their shit is
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<VITAS> question: is it possible to alter ksps main menu?
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<Sarbian> It should be doable. You have to remove/insert/clone a couple of GameObject
<xShadowx|2> pft dont need more buttons, just replace the code called when you hit mods button to open ckan :P
<VITAS> or spacedock
<VITAS> but it was more about sp and mp buttons mp for dmp
<xShadowx|2> would be nice if ckan could use ckan:// url so spacedock could have a link to click, which auto starts ckan to auto install that mod from the link
<VITAS> had the same idea with dmp and joining servers
<VITAS> but its complicated
<VITAS> for now im planing to provide ckan files for modpacks you can compose on spacedock or maybe even upload ckan files to get parsed by spacedock
<VITAS> modpacks are somehwhat broken on spacedock and theres a real need for exchanging modpacks (youtube LPs, dmp servers,...)
<xShadowx|2> uh 1) register the dmp:// with windows to open ksp 2) assuming ksp will ignore 'junk' command line args, you can fetch the url clicked using your mod code once you reach main menu 3) mod fires stuff to join game/server/etc
<VITAS> and linux?
<xShadowx|2> no clue/care :P
<VITAS> see
<VITAS> i care because some do
<VITAS> bed time
<xShadowx|2> linux has torrent apps, and i know linux people can click torrent:// links if using some of the clients, so it must work
<xShadowx|2> no clue how though
<SilverFox> "We live in a world where lemonade is made with artificial flavours and furniture polish is made with real lemons"
<SilverFox> "If god created the sun on the fourth day, how had 4 days passed?"
<SilverFox> "Dog food could be any flavour it wants, you're not going to test it" ORLY??
<SilverFox> "If everything was legal, there'd be no crime"
<darklight> xShadowX DMP actually makes ksp support -dmp dmp:// command line args :P
<darklight> It just doesn't register because holy moly that is a kettle of crazy on linux
<darklight> Silverfox there is some weight in that last statement
<SilverFox> “We were having a party at our house and one of the guests got a little out of hand. He started breaking beer bottles on the floor and dancing in the shards of glass in his bare feet. The dance floor cleared and a circle formed around him, watching as he began rolling around on the floor cutting himself on the glass. One of my housemates started yelling at him to get out and he turned to her and said, ‘Stop censoring
<SilverFox> my art!’”
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<SilverFox> "
* darklight looks at sf
<SilverFox> *playing the sims* "My underground prison filled with slave-artists was pretty grim. Everyone got a single cll, bed, toilet, sink, artist easel. There was a warden that lived above them on the ground level, who cooked for them, but they could only eat if they were turning out sellable art. Most of them went insane and died."
<SilverFox> "My teenage son decided waking up to his alarm and getting on the school bus was unimportant. So I locked him in a 1x1 room until he peed himself and died in the puddle"
<SilverFox> too long to type
<SilverFox> "I would train my son to be a good enough painter to do screenshot paintings. I then forced him to paint me naked or having sex with his mother/other women. I hung the paintings everywhere"
<darklight> Sims why
<SilverFox> because you can
<SilverFox> and I now want to
<SilverFox> I have the weekend free except for studying
<SilverFox> i can spare 14 hours
<SilverFox> shit's gonna take 7-8 hours
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<SilverFox> 5 hours now
<SilverFox> Greys, it's your duty to come up with scenarios for my sims to live out, give them challenges
<SilverFox> Im also giving you the priviledge of naming them
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