egg|principia|egg changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspmooders | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | <SilverFox> "little" doesn't seem like a real word to me right now
<Orum>
he has facts thrown in randomly to, I guess, lend credability to complete nonsense?
<Orum>
"And yet the EPA has deemed this essential ingredient for life..." Oh man, this guy should be on SNL
<Orum>
so, because I can take 500mg of acetaminophen to make me feel better, I should be able to take 50g of it to feel really better, right?
<Orum>
"we're putting more CO2 into the atmosphere in order to promote plant life"
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<SilverFox>
please take 50g of it, let me know how good it makes ya feel
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<SilverFox>
WAIT, I found the first inconsistency in the rugrats series
<SilverFox>
earlier in the series angelica broke the clown lamp, but in the episode Chuckie Loses His Glasses, Tommy is seen swinging on this lamp
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<SilverFox>
!tell Majiir from what I'm hearing, it's okay to use ni instead of nim, I've been hearing it in the dramas I watch recently, also comes up in autocorrect suggestions on my phone
<Qboid>
SilverFox: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<SilverFox>
yanno, I still have difficulties discerning english loan words in korean, because they barely sound english to begin with, and then the korean accents ontop of that..
<SilverFox>
basically ima have to learn korean so I can learn english again
<SilverFox>
so I know what words aren't a part of the korean language so I know when it's an english word
<G-Mobile>
don and ivonka were being interviewed and they were each asked "what's something you share with the other"
<G-Mobile>
ivonka's answer was real estate and golf
<G-Mobile>
donnie's answer was "I'd love to say sex but <points at ivonka>"
<darklight>
That is the most curious of answers
<darklight>
Also, I think its ivanka
<G-Mobile>
sure whatever, she's just some puppet
<G-Mobile>
may as well call her Jerry
<darklight>
I'm not going to hate on ivanka, although if she had anything to do with the syria bombing happening, as was suggested, then she kinda does lose REEEEEspect there
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<Greys>
would you pay 25$ for a comb and leather pouch
<darklight>
Would you pay 1 billion dollars for 40km of highway?
<darklight>
Australia would.
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<GlassYuri>
darklight, why do you need a highway anyway
<GlassYuri>
I mean it's not like any particular obstacle that needs to be overcome by road construction
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<darklight>
It's some bypass, and it might be 1.6 billion
<Greys>
I can't comb my hair with a highway
<darklight>
You comb your hair?
<Greys>
I can comb my hair
<darklight>
"President Trump Signs an Executive Order on Improving Accountability & Whistleblower Protection" assange?
<darklight>
I know because of the furries such an image would exist, but I am NOT googling it.
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<d_aeTIos_b>
is this place alive I'm craving for some actual messages typed by a human being instead of join/parts
<d_aeTIos_b>
nope
<d_aeTIos_b>
il just kms rop
<d_aeTIos_b>
rip*
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<darklight>
That was an odd transmission
<darklight>
Feeble human slaves!
<darklight>
:P
<darklight>
"How free college benefits the rich" a huh, this will be interesting
<darklight>
Oh god that was horrific
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<darklight>
"rich students would gain more because poor students are already subsidised"
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<SilverFox>
TheKosmonaut, I hear there is such a thing as a "white man" cafe in tokyo, where women will ring a bell, and a caucasian in a suit comes and says "Yes, Princess?"
<SilverFox>
is this real or not
<TheKosmonaut>
Yea
<SilverFox>
i've found my reason to go to japan
<SilverFox>
*dinging intensifies*
<darklight>
You need to save shekels to go to worst korea first
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<SilverFox>
what the fuck happened to DYJ?
<darklight>
Didn't they make some game?
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<SilverFox>
idk, but I know C7 went to make a few games
<darklight>
Wait wasn't dyj in china?
<SilverFox>
yup
<darklight>
Or was that someone else
<darklight>
Gulaged for political dissent maybe :D
<SilverFox>
I think he was in the good part of china
<darklight>
You mean taiwan?
<darklight>
Hehehe
<SilverFox>
nope
<SilverFox>
so im on this site, and it all of a sudden tells me "duplicate message not sent" and I'm like what??
<SilverFox>
I sent "ㅋㅋㅋ" and then "맞아"
<SilverFox>
those two are definitely not the same
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<Tank2333_mobil2>
SilverFox in japan there are also cuddle cafe where you can pay girls to cuddle with you like petting your hair or just laying down togather and stuff
<Tank2333_mobil2>
Very odd imo
<SilverFox>
wouldn't say that's odd
<SilverFox>
maybe to our culture it is
<VITAS>
pay?
<VITAS>
free hugs!
<RandomJeb>
I don't think a free hugs cafe is going to work as a business model
<SilverFox>
from what I know of japan's culture is that the men tend to be very busy, and relationships are time consuming, yet we as humans need interaction and shit, so we just go to short term sources and be on our way
<SilverFox>
RandomJeb, I disagree, imagine if hooters gave hugs
<VITAS>
its all about money withy you isnt it?
<RandomJeb>
we live under the yoke of capitalism, everything is primarily a monetary value and secondarily whatever
<VITAS>
sad
<RandomJeb>
SilverFox: they wouldn't get as many sales because their clients would be hugging the staff all the time?
<SilverFox>
I'd say false, but aight
<RandomJeb>
now imagine hooters charging a dollar per hug
<SilverFox>
or imbedding that cost into the things you already pay for
<RandomJeb>
hooters income explodes, stock owners buy a ton of golden bentleys, bentley stock owners jizz their pants - buys private islands
<RandomJeb>
everybody wins
<darklight>
RandomJeb: The invisible hand of the free market will fix the hug cost problem!
<SilverFox>
how?
<SilverFox>
some knockoff hooters gonna offer free hugs?
<SilverFox>
you can't compete against brands
<RandomJeb>
half price hugs
<darklight>
Sure you can
<RandomJeb>
but it's not a Hooters(tm)(r) Hug(tm)
<darklight>
I'll do with some knockoff hugs
<SilverFox>
of course you will
<SilverFox>
but their food might be shit
<darklight>
They don't even have to be human hugs!
<darklight>
Also don't market an animal cafe in china, they might think you are eating animals
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<SilverFox>
#letsseehowracistdarklightcanget
<darklight>
Is that racist?
<darklight>
I don't eat cats
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<darklight>
"It is estimated that around 4 million cats are eaten in China each year, and that the number is rising."
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<RandomJeb>
I eat animals at cafes sometimes, not gonna lie
<RandomJeb>
am I asian?
<SilverFox>
eating animals doesn't make you asian
<darklight>
I mean cats specifically
<RandomJeb>
I wouldn't eat cats unless they were bred for dining on
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<RandomJeb>
dont know what kind of freaky parasites live in the wild ones, they eat all sorts of critters
<darklight>
I would try horse :3
<RandomJeb>
horse is delish tho
<darklight>
Apparently it's like a better beef?
<RandomJeb>
a gamier beef
<RandomJeb>
more taste
<RandomJeb>
leaner
<darklight>
Kangaroo is kinda like that, it tastes ok but the aftertaste is a bit weird
<VITAS>
i preffer kangaroo meat
<RandomJeb>
add some salt to the taste and make it a step gamier and you've got whale
<RandomJeb>
though if they get a real fat bastard you get the issue that the aftertaste is a bit weird
<SilverFox>
moose is supreme
<SilverFox>
moose meat lasagna was great
<RandomJeb>
I think it's because of some omega oil that runs around in their tissues, I forget the details
<darklight>
SilverFox: Send maple syrup straight from tree plz
<SilverFox>
you mean sap?
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<darklight>
Yeah
<SilverFox>
maple syrup is processed
<SilverFox>
time to go calculate z-scores for an hour
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* darklight
claps youtube
<RandomJeb>
okay so I'm clearly connected to the internet
<RandomJeb>
IRC works
<darklight>
I got a streaming notification at 11 minutes, and then at 16?
<darklight>
Maybe it was opened in two tabs and didn't realise
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<RandomJeb>
reverse DNS lookups work, I can trace routes all over the planet
<RandomJeb>
none of my browsers recognize that I'm online
<darklight>
RandomJeb: When DNS shits itself weird stuff like that happens
<RandomJeb>
and dropbox doesn't either
<darklight>
DNS failures are cached too
<darklight>
I doubt *everything* would fail though...
<RandomJeb>
I think windows hates my network card
<Tank2333_phone>
Hm just looked up what"hooters" are
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<darklight>
It's a bar
<RandomJeb>
fine dining experience
<Tank2333_phone>
Arnita sarkisian should get onto it and point at them not at gamrs...
<RandomJeb>
she's certainly sex negative enough
<Tank2333_phone>
:)
* VITAS
is more of a breather than a gamer because you have to decide whats important to you :P
<Tank2333_phone>
I guess feminist these days are too busy with men-hating these days
<Tank2333_phone>
Lol
<darklight>
If you put a sex negative and sex positive person together do sparks fly?
<Tank2333_phone>
You get babys
<RandomJeb>
well to be fair the man hating, sex negative and trans exclusionary feminists of the champagne variety are the only ones that gain any sort of media attention and subsequent notoriety
<Tank2333_phone>
It is like magnets
<Tank2333_phone>
RandomJeb true
<RandomJeb>
you try to tell people you want women in sub-sahara to have rights and nobody cares
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* VITAS
once got a real red card from some women like figure for whom i dared to hold the door open
<darklight>
Actually, I saw something quite... surprising on this topic recently
<Tank2333_phone>
I just found out about that stuff a few month ago and its pretty fascinating
<kmath>
<dwnews> Moderator to the German chancellor: "Are you a feminist?" Angela Merkel: ? #W20 https://t.co/ofotHSTCAh
<darklight>
Look at this
<Tank2333_phone>
I once got the nicest unexpected "oh thank you :)" wich made my day and i thought the whole day about that :)
<darklight>
Hrmm that was cut a bit
<VITAS>
i replied that i would hold it open even if it would be a paper plane because its funny. but i would remember her and smash avery door in her face in the future becuase thats what she wants me to do :)
<Tank2333_phone>
Darklight yeah i read about that
<darklight>
It's the most sane thing I have seen from her tbh
<darklight>
VITAS: Be nasty to women, got it
<darklight>
:P
<Tank2333_phone>
Frok merkel?
<VITAS>
depends
<RandomJeb>
okay I can't make stuff work again, I guess it's time for the standard fix
<RandomJeb>
I'll brb
<Tank2333_phone>
On and off?
<RandomJeb>
yup
<darklight>
Yeah, everyone knows that ^_^
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<Tank2333_phone>
Well merkel just talks always like that and avoids topics this way
<Tank2333_phone>
3rd level tech support :)
<VITAS>
i hate ppl who spend their day discussing about their oppinions regarding sex and expect that somone is interrested in getting educated by them.
<Tank2333_phone>
You mean all these youtube videos on that topic?
<VITAS>
problem with merkel: we dont even know if its a women
<Tank2333_phone>
Or human
<Thomas>
lol
<darklight>
The video I saw had a bit more, she respects the past action of women in the past and she's standing on the shoulders of giants, as it were
<VITAS>
i mean all that rl stuff
<darklight>
but *shrugs*
<VITAS>
writing in funny ways
<darklight>
I don't focus on feminism anymore though, It's silly, but there's worse things out there :P
<VITAS>
entering conversations without beeing asked
<darklight>
Mainly the root cause of the feminism problem :P
<VITAS>
telling you to not use words they dislike even if you arent talking to them
<Tank2333_phone>
darklight i have to admit that it was a very nicely formulated answer from that unexpected question and in from of president ivanka
<darklight>
Tbh, trump is pretty "feminist"
<VITAS>
my stance is: i was raised in a household with my mum and my sister (and my dad beeing on business trips all the time)
<VITAS>
so i know how to respect women
<Tank2333_phone>
Vitas a i see
* darklight
now watches the daily spice
<VITAS>
so any women telling me i should change something in the way i behave or talk can fuck off
<Tank2333_phone>
I stopped watching spicer...
<darklight>
It got hard during the syrian thing
<VITAS>
in other news: sorry it took me so long to realize spacedock was down
<Tank2333_phone>
First it was pretty interresting but after all those stupid tweets and that they dont even acknowledge some of the controversys it just got too tiresome
<VITAS>
adding the request to the admin of the french ksp wiki to stop dosing
<darklight>
That.... is an odd place for a dos to come from
<darklight>
What form of dos?
<VITAS>
they wrote some sort of script that does api requests
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<VITAS>
and it went haywire a while back
<darklight>
Ah
<VITAS>
and then they disabled it but its back again
<darklight>
You can probably block that IP for now so they fix it
<VITAS>
so im droping packets from their ip now
<darklight>
I can't imagine that it would have that many requests/s
<VITAS>
they promised to fix it
<VITAS>
and when they said they did i unblocked it
<darklight>
If you can handle ckan I really don't see why the french wiki borks
<VITAS>
was ok for 2 or so month
<VITAS>
i think i wont give them another chance
<darklight>
Maybe they can read API data from ckan...
<darklight>
Their github is only a clone away and it essentially holds the same type of info
<darklight>
(If it's just like mod versions or something)
<Thomas>
or dont scrape spacedock constantly and completely ^^
<Thomas>
i.e. only fetch X mods each day
<VITAS>
dont knwo what their aim is
<VITAS>
but apache got stuck
<VITAS>
ims urprised that it did
<darklight>
Thomas: Actually didn't I build a notifier?
<VITAS>
because there where plenty of resources
<VITAS>
for the backend
<VITAS>
i think
<Thomas>
darklight: Yes, you did
<Thomas>
Dunno for what and how it got used / gets used
<darklight>
I can't remember how it worked though
<darklight>
I think it was file sync originally
<darklight>
As it notified what mods changed
<darklight>
Probably something to do with ckan too
<darklight>
So they can insta-update something
<darklight>
Yeah I'm pretty sure it was automatic signalling for mod updates
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<VITAS>
burger or pizza?
<VITAS>
dinenr decissions
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<darklight>
Burgers can be dinner things?
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<VITAS>
yes fries and a burger why not?
<VITAS>
or pizza
<VITAS>
please vote :P
<darklight>
If you get pizza you also get breakfast pizza....
<darklight>
but *shrugs*
<VITAS>
depends on the size
<darklight>
It should come in one size
<darklight>
yuge
<darklight>
:P
<darklight>
Holy shit winter just started
<darklight>
It's 16 degrees
<VITAS>
uhm it must be sumemr here then. and its 8.6°C
<VITAS>
something is off
<VITAS>
:P
<darklight>
Keep in mind australia :P
<VITAS>
yes and i imagine you shivering
<darklight>
It gets down to like 4 degrees in the middle of winter
<VITAS>
uuuh oooh
<VITAS>
:D
<VITAS>
im more impressed by your summer temperatures
<darklight>
37c tops really
<VITAS>
also: pizza it is
<VITAS>
hmm nothing we havent reached in egrmany
<VITAS>
so WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH SNOW THEN?!
<VITAS>
:P
<darklight>
No snow in my state
<darklight>
:3
<darklight>
Also is there something symbolic about a french wiki causing problems for a german site? :P
<darklight>
Well, I guess it's not really
<darklight>
But you get what I mean :)
<VITAS>
no the only problem i have is with france is that they build all their reactors at the french egrman border so if soemthing explodes its not their problem
<VITAS>
but with that wiki its most likely that they went to eat and make love instead of finishing their script. :P
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<darklight>
Ha
<darklight>
I guess the whole german-french rivalry thing hasn't really existed for a while :P
<VITAS>
no
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<VITAS>
we have to be friends
<VITAS>
else europe is fucked
<VITAS>
thats why im less interrested in who wins in france and more in how long does it take the winner to visit merkel?
<darklight>
Fair enough :P
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<VITAS>
most of the 1.2.9 changelog looks like language related :/
<teabot>
Relatead.
<VITAS>
and tree shaders?
<VITAS>
%/
<RandomJeb>
I hope france and germany have a falling out
<VITAS>
also i just was kicked from official
<VITAS>
:D
<RandomJeb>
a fucked europe is a secured europe
<darklight>
I for one do not support nuclear winter
<RandomJeb>
the answer to global warming is nuclear winter
* VITAS
eats his pizza
<VITAS>
i support global pizza
<darklight>
I don't think nuclear winter is the final solution to the environmental question
* darklight
stops :P
<RandomJeb>
it may not be right, but it is necessary
<RandomJeb>
okay that's a bit too far, it's not really necessary but it would be a pretty good solution to two issues in one bomb
<teabot>
Prettea.
<VITAS>
ok someone is on a mission
<VITAS>
i get accused of begging, kickt from the official irc and now the spacedock thread was deleted
<xShadowx>
lovely
<xShadowx>
you werent begging, he accused you of profiting from it and you linked donation history for transparency
<xShadowx>
if anything he goaded you into linking it then kicked you for linking
<VITAS>
now the thread is back
<VITAS>
and it is ok to do so because its ok on the forums
<xShadowx>
if you dont like staff actions, poke a higher rank staff
<darklight>
I don't go to official
<xShadowx>
i tdont think he has any clue what servers cost to host -.-
<darklight>
Which mod?
<xShadowx>
?
<xShadowx>
oh moderator?
<xShadowx>
mod always makes me think game mod ahah
<darklight>
yeah
<xShadowx>
frybert again
<Thomas>
xShadowx: Or that spacedock inherited a software that is a piece of junk and vitas is already throwing more and more hw against it
<darklight>
Never head of them :P
<xShadowx>
Thomas: years later, havent rewritten software?:P
<Thomas>
we are trying, but we are two persons
<Thomas>
with a job / school
<Thomas>
(but sdb is rather finished ^^)
<xShadowx>
oh that explains it, drop the silly job bit, waste of time, and use google to learn :P
<Thomas>
tell that vitas :P
<xShadowx>
not even kidding at the school bit accually, schools suck
<VITAS>
im talking to badie
<Thomas>
Yeah, but it would be a bit silly to quit school 1 year before you'd finish it anyway :P
<xShadowx>
i took classes long ago for 3d animation, and they wanted me to learn photoshop which i already knew but was unrelated to any of the 3d animation bits they were teaching
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<VITAS>
photoshop does 3d and is needed for texturing
<xShadowx>
so 3/4 of the class 100% waste telling me what i knew, for no reason
<VITAS>
but else youre right
<xShadowx>
they didnt even cover anything related to texturing
<VITAS>
then it strange
<darklight>
xShadowx: At least that's not as bad as some required courses
<xShadowx>
ya my dad wanted to take photography classes for the older film cameras, in order to use an older film camera, knowledge of digital cameras is key, learning to photoshop digital camera pictures follows, and at the end, a 3 day course in how to take a picture with a film camera and a piss poor explainaition of how to develop film
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<SilverFox>
TheKosmonaut, what is "Anata wa"?
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<angavrilov>
SilverFox: "You"
<SilverFox>
that's it?
<angavrilov>
well, what do you expect
<SilverFox>
idk, I translated a sentence in korean in english to japanese and that's what popped out
<angavrilov>
wa is a particle; they say korean grammar is similar so I expect it has those too
<SilverFox>
it does
<angavrilov>
specifically it is the topic particle
<SilverFox>
subject particle, alright
<angavrilov>
not necessarily
<angavrilov>
can be object too, or not part of the action at all
<SilverFox>
okay im not even going to try on this one, worry about that shit later
<angavrilov>
specifically subject is 'ga'
<angavrilov>
topic is what the sentence is 'about'
<SilverFox>
right
<SilverFox>
so there's a topic, subject, and object particle, or what's going on?
<angavrilov>
there are more particles obviously
<SilverFox>
aight
<angavrilov>
but topic is very important
<angavrilov>
its even one of the 3 particles that kept their spelling from before the big reform post WW2
<angavrilov>
it's pronounced wa, but spelled ha
<SilverFox>
cool, can't escape this shit
<SilverFox>
is there even a language that has strict pronunciation for it's syllables and no deviation?
<angavrilov>
the object particle wo (pronounced simply o) is the only word that still uses the letter wo
<SilverFox>
interesting
<angavrilov>
(in songs etc they do occasionally sing it as wo though)
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<angavrilov|phone>
does korean have multiple different words for "you"?
<angavrilov|phone>
anata is just one possible way to say that
<SilverFox>
sort of
<SilverFox>
the particles get attached to the word, so I don't know if you count that or not
<SilverFox>
너 is the base, and most common
<angavrilov|phone>
totally different words, e.g. "kimi" or "omae" are also you
<SilverFox>
and you just attach the particles to it, 너 + 는 , 네가, 니가
<SilverFox>
so, 너는, 네가, 니가 are the common ones
<angavrilov|phone>
it depends on who is referring to whom
<SilverFox>
however, a common fuckup is between 네가 and 내가 because they are pronounced the same
<angavrilov|phone>
the different pronouns here sort of fall into the whole politeness thing
<SilverFox>
yet mean opposite things, you and "me" respectively
<SilverFox>
rather, you and "I"
<angavrilov|phone>
you could even say that Japanese pronouns for you and me are just weird nouns and not something special
<angavrilov|phone>
and only stuff for this/that, here/there etc is true pronouns
<SilverFox>
those are pronouns? neat
<SilverFox>
i never thought of them as such before
<angavrilov|phone>
well, whatever you call them
<SilverFox>
proper nouns, yeah?
<SilverFox>
giving the name of a place, person or thing?
<angavrilov|phone>
the this that stuff is regular and is built ffr
<angavrilov|phone>
from the ko so a do prefix defermining the closeness, and a suffix determining the kind
<angavrilov|phone>
while you and me words are all kind of random social stuff
<SilverFox>
"this" is a pronoun it seems
<SilverFox>
also "that"
<angavrilov|phone>
anata rather uniquely actually is a ko-so-a-do pronoun though
<SilverFox>
but "here" and "there" are adverbs
<angavrilov|phone>
there also is sonata for instance (as disused now as thou in english)
<SilverFox>
sonata is a music performance tho
<SilverFox>
however in this case, since there are prefixes and suffixes, would the root of sonata be nat?
<angavrilov|phone>
what do you call the I/you/he, we/you/they three level distinction
<SilverFox>
what
<angavrilov|phone>
in conjugation of European languages
<SilverFox>
oh I see
<angavrilov|phone>
i do, he does
<SilverFox>
pronouns
<angavrilov|phone>
the verb changes based on it
<angavrilov|phone>
well, ko is the i/we level, so is you, a is they level, and do is the question prefix
<angavrilov|phone>
koko is here i.e. near me, soko is near you, and asoko (bit of weirdness) is over there
<angavrilov|phone>
and doko is "where?"
<angavrilov|phone>
ah, I remembered, it's called 1st/2nd/3rd "person" in English
<SilverFox>
oh
<SilverFox>
yeah that shit
<angavrilov|phone>
even "donata" exists and is a rather polite way to say "who"
* angavrilov|phone
zzz
<Tank2333_phone>
Just reading that sjw student article
<Tank2333_phone>
As Heat Street previously highlighted, the module provided to staff included guidelines suggesting that it was possibly “racist” to tell someone they’re late for not showing up on time for a meeting
<Tank2333_phone>
Wtf
<SilverFox>
welcome to social justice
<SilverFox>
an oncologist will be ready to see you, please enjoy your stay
<Tank2333_phone>
After reading that article i need to go to my safe space now
<Tank2333_phone>
When i think back to my school days (not highschool ) i think i was (am) a pretty big snowflake too, but i never realy blamed the other people for it
<Tank2333_phone>
Thats mostly what they do isnt it? Getting offended by something and projecting their incompetenz onto others