egg|principia|egg changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspmooders | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | <SilverFox> "little" doesn't seem like a real word to me right now
<SilverFox>
Yooa reminds me of that god-ish chick from goblin, the one that insists that the goblin kill himself in that bookstore; that old lady that sells the reaper and sunny the ring
<SilverFox>
I can see why you like Hyojung, but I think her mouth is a tad too big.
<SilverFox>
However, I'm actually starting to lean towards Binnie as my pick
<SilverFox>
with JinE as my second
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<G-Mobile>
They're like slow planes that arent useless and make money
<darklight>
Greys gettin that big oil money
<SilverFox>
what's openttd?
<darklight>
Greys a slow plane across the map should make money though?
<G-Mobile>
it's like TTD but opensource
<darklight>
transport tycoon
<darklight>
Like the first game I ever played
<darklight>
(that and theme park)
<G-Mobile>
it might but you're really constrained by populations and then they get mad at you for not delivering enough mail because there is no god damn mail plane
<G-Mobile>
and, critically, there are no cargo planes
<Supernovy>
and TTD is like TT but Deluxe
<Supernovy>
transport fever doesn't have any cargo planes either.
<G-Mobile>
I've almost got the Tutford Woods steel plant exporting to the Finborough factory fast enough to keep the factory boats busy taking goods to Trarnhall
<G-Mobile>
and then I superpositioned four ferries because boats are intangible
<G-Mobile>
boats shouldn't be able to get lost near land....
<G-Mobile>
darklight: basically the game isn't about making money, it's about building a company; so you can just lay down some useless annoying airports, but unless you're going to get into timetables that's just bypassing the play
<darklight>
I usually build an island in the middle of the ocean
<darklight>
When there is nothing better to do
<G-Mobile>
I created this map to specifically cater to boat play, so there's loads of lakes and the land is real hilly
<G-Mobile>
so far I only have one railway
<SilverFox>
Greys, why have a pi on a door instead of arduino?
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<G-Mobile>
data throu-put
<G-Mobile>
I wonder if you could make a light weight highly abstracted river flow simulation, that's good enough to permit catastrophic results from human interference, and have enough systems resources left running in 'real time' to run a shipping industry game on top of it
<G-Mobile>
one downfall of openTTD is that there is only still water and the only consequence of changing the terrain is economic
<G-Mobile>
most of the time it would just be impacting the speeds of your ships by the speed of flow, but in openTTD there's a lot of value to be had in optimizing ship courses by cutting out terrain
<G-Mobile>
if there were consequences to complicate that, it'd be a nice gameplay thing
<darklight>
Greys, I know your game is hilly, but you can do transfers at docks...
<G-Mobile>
I can what?
<G-Mobile>
I do not understand the significance of this
<G-Mobile>
I know your continent is hot, but you can put shoes in the fridge
<darklight>
Full unload the ship at a dock and load it onto a train
<G-Mobile>
why would I do that?
<darklight>
So you don't have to make expensive rivers :P
<G-Mobile>
why would I do that?
<G-Mobile>
you have made a series of unfounded assumptions
<darklight>
So you can get oil from rigs into inland oil refineries
<darklight>
It will look like the ship makes a loss (the advance is small), but the train would make it up
<G-Mobile>
100% of my refineries are coastal and 200% of my oil rigs don't exist
<darklight>
Not yet atleast :P
<G-Mobile>
right, but since my refineries are coastal, doesn't matter
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<G-Mobile>
I think what I'll do once I break the economy, is get rid of all the land that doesn't have stuff on it
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<stupid_chris>
hey is SilverFox around?
<stupid_chris>
looks not :(
<G-Mobile>
yes
<stupid_chris>
hi greys
<G-Mobile>
hello man who refuses to give me parafoils
<stupid_chris>
not with that attitude
<stupid_chris>
;tell SilverFox thought you'd enjoy this: console.WriteLine(l > maxFreq ? 0 : (type == '0' ? leastFreq[l] : (firstFreq.TryGetValue((int)l, out l) ? l : 0)));
<kmath>
stupid_chris: I'll let silverfox know when I see them
<G-Mobile>
not with any attitude
<G-Mobile>
I can build a concord now
<G-Mobile>
unfortunately the concord was hugely unprofitable, so I won't
<xShadowx|2>
jews dont believe in hell? what do they call it when stock market crashes and all their money goes poof :|
<Majiir>
Time to buy more?
<Majiir>
When the market crashes, stocks are on sale
<xShadowx|2>
only if their money wasnt in the market when it crashed :|
<Majiir>
which is why you don't put 100% of your money in stocks
<Majiir>
Have some bonds, have some cash, and have income
<xShadowx|2>
you expect too much from the human race
<xShadowx|2>
they arent that intelligent
<Majiir>
It's not the human race we're talking about, it's Jews who invest in the stock market
<G-Mobile>
my dad invested in the stock market, he's not a jew, therefore you are wrong
<Majiir>
The people we are talking about is Jews who invest in the stock market
<Majiir>
There are other people who invest who aren't Jews. Like me.
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<Majiir>
What's an ouef?
<Majiir>
Is it like a smushed egg?
<G-Mobile>
it's like a french egg
<Majiir>
That sounds repetitively redundant
<G-Mobile>
yep
<G-Mobile>
what else would you expect of him?
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<Majiir>
I would expect a proper oeuf to be infinitely recursively redundant
<Majiir>
like a neverending honhonhonhonhonhon but in oeuf form
<G-Mobile>
IRC nicknames don't support references properly, so that's not really possible
<Majiir>
Like a bunch of Russian dolls, except French and eggs
<G-Mobile>
and every doll is only infinitesimally smaller than the one that it's in
<Majiir>
I was gonna say each one is 2/3rds the size of the one it's contained within
<Majiir>
That's still an infinite series
<G-Mobile>
yes but that's a series that can be located within
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<G-Mobile>
infinitesimal variance in scale means that every doll is infinitesimally smaller than every doll that's bigger than it, and infinitesimally larger than all the dolls it's larger than
<G-Mobile>
therefore it would be troublesome to prove that any doll were truely dissimilar to any other doll
<Majiir>
Only if you compared by measuring
<Majiir>
It'd be trivial to simply extract the dolls and see which ones are contained in which
<Majiir>
or to try and insert them and see what fits
<Majiir>
There's probably an insertion-sort joke in here somewhere
<G-Mobile>
the constraint of interaction is not reliable at small scales
<Majiir>
The concept of infinitesimally sized dolls is not consistent with the universe either
<Majiir>
At some point we're giving up reality and living in fantasy land
<G-Mobile>
a fantasy land of math and eggs
<G-Mobile>
also if we were to constrain this to realistic depictions, at any scale with discernable variance an infinite series of scales cannot exist
<G-Mobile>
somewhat quickly a doll would be less than a planck length, and a sum of all lesser dolls would create a singularity
<G-Mobile>
so, all in all this keyboard is pretty nice
<G-Mobile>
but I wish somebody made a version that was worth four times as much
<G-Mobile>
double the thickness of all the stampings, make the key mechanism just generally nicer, invest more development in the circuitry
<G-Mobile>
in an ideal world maybe half the total thickness and replace 80% of the plastic with stampings
<G-Mobile>
it'd be real nice if the backplanes could be upgraded from stampings to milled plates
<G-Mobile>
the rubberized feet need to be made out of something else entirely, but the design is solid; they just picked a material that's too hard and doesn't have enough friction, but if that were fixed it wouldn't need attached feet at all
<G-Mobile>
50% more powerful magnets on the open position latching would be appreciated
<G-Mobile>
the design though, eggsaladnt
<G-Mobile>
if anything a tiny trunion hinge would be cool, but I think that would be so small as to be impractical to make run well
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<darklight>
xShadowx Shemittah? :P
<darklight>
*shrugs*, I don't follow enough conspiracies in order to say more about it, I don't watch alex jones
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<VITAS>
hmm selling dirty laundry is illigal?
<VITAS>
so my plan to sell mine to earn enough money to always buy new one so i never have to wash anything again wont work? :(
<RandomJeb>
depends on where and how you do it I imagine
<G-Mobile>
there are multiple ways to watch alex jones?
<RandomJeb>
yes
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<G-Mobile>
when you request a web page via https, the URL must be at least partially exposed, right?
<G-Mobile>
is there DNSS? is the file designation exposed?
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<VITAS>
yes
<VITAS>
bthe dns system must know the serve rto ask and that implys parts of the domain
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<darklight>
G-Mobile DNS will be unencrypted, and if the server supports SNI, I assume the domain will also be unencrypted?
<G-Mobile>
so when I go to google.com, somebody monitoring the network could see that
<darklight>
Most certainly
<darklight>
But they wont be able to see what you are searching for
<G-Mobile>
so they wouldn't see the entire URL string
<darklight>
No, only the domain because of SNI
<darklight>
Unless you have an encrypted tunnel of course
<darklight>
Because you were talking about vpns before
<darklight>
But that only shifts the problem to the vps :P
<darklight>
Also I know of people who use tails linux
<G-Mobile>
there's too many complications with VPN
<G-Mobile>
I spent a while yesterday googling animations of various gun actions
<G-Mobile>
at work
<darklight>
You can buy guns at walmart in your country, wbat are you on about? :P
<G-Mobile>
not in my state you can't
<darklight>
Commiefornia?
<darklight>
:P
<G-Mobile>
you know better
<darklight>
Detroit
<darklight>
Which googling, is in MI
<G-Mobile>
good dog
<Supernovy>
my favourite is delayed blowback
<darklight>
I'm definitely not pro-gun but on the same hand I am not anti-gun either. I don't mind people in it for sports or hunting or pest control, but I'd dislike every tom dick and harry walking into maccas with one
<G-Mobile>
my favorite is toggle-lock
<G-Mobile>
I'm in it for the engineering and artistry
<darklight>
Given your current employment, I don't think they would be technologically competent enough to sniff your traffic :P
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<G-Mobile>
my current employment at a datacenter/ISP?
<darklight>
I thought you were building walls
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<G-Mobile>
you haven't been paying attention
<G-Mobile>
I was fired from that job more than a month ago
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<darklight>
Ah ok, I thought you couldn't work for some other reason
<G-Mobile>
nope, it's always your trump buddies
<darklight>
Wait you left because of the election result?
<darklight>
Trump isn't perfect you know, the media could do a lot better when dealing with the guy, and for the love of god why do they report on twitter :(
<darklight>
Currently everyone is beating the war drums
<darklight>
(As in media)
<darklight>
On the other hand, he isn't hitler and it's about time people get over that :P
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<G-Mobile>
no, I was fired for not being a trump supporter
<darklight>
I'm confused, but fair enough
<darklight>
I can understand if you copped a bit of shit and left, but thats pretty shit
<darklight>
I do call trump names occasionally because of certain fuckups, but I guess we'll find out how well trump does in 7 and a half years :P
<G-Mobile>
I did not left
<G-Mobile>
I was fired
<darklight>
Also of brexit goes well and le pen wins (unlikely afaik), then we'll see how well the destruction of the EU goes :P
<TonyC>
oh hi
<darklight>
o/ Matrix
<TonyC>
*insert 600 page rant about french politics*
<darklight>
At least you have more than a 2 horse race
<darklight>
How's things going over there btw?
<TonyC>
darklight, elections are being held today so everyone's holding their breath, while the current govt is cleaning up the mess left by the attacks
<darklight>
Mess, wasn't it a single police officer who was shot?
<darklight>
Or you mean like islam apologetics?
<TonyC>
well, it's not a huge mess
<darklight>
I did read you have 60k police defending the ballot stations
<TonyC>
but the government dedicated a huge number of police officers to oversee the stations
<TonyC>
yes
<darklight>
Now we have to see if le pen is mightier than the sword :P
<SilverFox>
!tell Majiir I gave names in chat as well. My choices were: Binnie, JinE
<Qboid>
SilverFox: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<SilverFox>
"console.WriteLine(l > maxFreq ? 0 : (type == '0' ? leastFreq[l] : (firstFreq.TryGetValue((int)l, out l) ? l : 0)));"
<SilverFox>
so we're writing a string or char to the console
<SilverFox>
is "type" a keyword in c#?
<SilverFox>
ahhnope, it's typeof
<SilverFox>
so if the var type is a char, if the char is equal to the char value of '0' then the string/char will be used from the first index in the leastFreq array/list, if it isn't, then you try to get a value... of int type 1 and you out that, if that is true, you output 1, else, you output 0
<SilverFox>
thats uhhh pretty good
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<Majiir>
Of course you'd pick the worst
<Qboid>
Majiir: SilverFox left a message for you in #kspmodders [23.04.2017 14:14:18]: "I gave names in chat as well. My choices were: Binnie, JinE"
<SilverFox>
well here's the thing
<Majiir>
This is why when you say someone's a 5, I assume the worst
<SilverFox>
nawnaw
<SilverFox>
I didn't pick them because they were the most attractive
<SilverFox>
I picked them because I liked them the most
<Majiir>
......yes, that's how I pick too, but it's the ones I like the most *from a music video*
<Majiir>
It's not like I had coffee and deep conversation with them
<SilverFox>
right
<SilverFox>
neither did I
<SilverFox>
except I watched multiple MVs and had to look at group photos
<Majiir>
I need a mic boom thing
<SilverFox>
so get one
<SilverFox>
minimum price 1200$
<Majiir>
1200 Canadabux is like $3.50 USD
<SilverFox>
$1200
<SilverFox>
there
<Majiir>
That doesn't seem wise
<Majiir>
Not sure why you think I pay out the ass for everything
<SilverFox>
not in the slightest
<SilverFox>
because you can
<Majiir>
No
<Majiir>
That's not at all how that works
<Majiir>
Having money and spending money are diametrically opposed
<darklight>
But majiir, you can SAVE by SPENDING MONIES!
<Majiir>
If you buy quality products, yes
<Majiir>
Buying an expensive thing once can be cheaper than buying a cheap thing ten times
<darklight>
I'm just taking a punt about specials
<Majiir>
Buying at the right time can also save money, but ads aren't a good way to figure out when that is :)
<Majiir>
Like you know a good time to buy snow tires? Not when it's fucking snowing
<Majiir>
Spring or summer? Great time to buy snow tires.
<darklight>
What are snow tires?
<darklight>
Actually
<Kommit>
snow tyres
<darklight>
Given that I am australian
<SilverFox>
lul
<darklight>
What is spring?
<Majiir>
The funny thing is that having to buy snow tires doesn't really cost more in the long run
<darklight>
There is only endless summer
<Majiir>
People act like it's this big extra cost
<darklight>
Hot summer and wet summer
<Majiir>
but you only drive on one set of tires at a time
<Majiir>
And if you try to save money by not buying an extra set of rims, you'll end up paying out the ass to constantly change the tires *AND* the extra wear that causes
<Majiir>
So that's a pretty good example of spending to save
<darklight>
I think I'm happy that snow doesn't exist here
<SilverFox>
stocks? that requires spending to make money
<darklight>
Neither does ice in general
<Majiir>
Fox, that's not spending
<Majiir>
That's not a cost you sink to gain some advantage elsewhere. It's just a thing you trade.
<SilverFox>
so we're disregarding investments?
<Majiir>
We're not disregarding them. Investments just aren't *costs*.
<SilverFox>
aight
<Majiir>
The return on investment is the premium for setting your money aside and putting it at risk
<darklight>
Also I am not understanding france right now. This is the official tracker thingy https://www.lefigaro.fr/elections/resultats/#PR2017 by the looks but only 3 things have turned colours, yet according to associated press everyone but le pen and macron has declared?
<SilverFox>
companies act in the company's best interest
<SilverFox>
just so happens that aligns with the customers most of the time
<Majiir>
"just so happens" not really
<Majiir>
It's a mutually beneficial relationship
<Majiir>
Otherwise no transaction ever happens
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<SilverFox>
yay exam week
<SilverFox>
fucking kill me
<Majiir>
exam week is easy
<Majiir>
no classes
<Majiir>
you just have to show up for like an hour and bam done
<SilverFox>
ohohohooho
<SilverFox>
that's where you're wrong kiddo
<Majiir>
"kiddo"
<Majiir>
you mean the one with a degree?
<SilverFox>
I still have plenty of classes
<SilverFox>
this new keyboard feels weird
<SilverFox>
dont know if I like it or not
<SilverFox>
but yeah, still have classes to attend ontop of exams, pretty great
<SilverFox>
and projects to do wow
<Majiir>
School is easy, get over it
<Majiir>
So much time to sleep in school
<Majiir>
The sucky part about school is the lack of routine
<Majiir>
Always different class schedules and different amounts of work that needs doing
<SilverFox>
that is indeed rather shitty
<SilverFox>
and it can fuck with your sleep schedule; alternating between waking up at 7am and 9-10am every other day
<SilverFox>
it fucks with mine nonetheless
<Majiir>
I just forced myself to always wake up the same time
<Majiir>
or arranged my schedule that way
<SilverFox>
I mean, you can do that, that is valid
<Majiir>
I had a few semesters where every day was 8am-11am
<Majiir>
those were great
<SilverFox>
that's tilting
<Majiir>
why
<SilverFox>
you only had like, 1-2 classes a day?
<Majiir>
2-3
<Majiir>
Tues/Thurs were 1.5hr classes
<Majiir>
the rest were like 50 minute or whatever
<Majiir>
so 3 hours per week per class, five classes
<SilverFox>
none of my classes are 1 hour long, they're always at least 1.5hr or 2hr
<SilverFox>
I have two 3 hour classes on fridays
<Majiir>
Sure, I had some like that
<SilverFox>
8am - 4pm
<Majiir>
that's what credit-hours are all about
<SilverFox>
credit hours?
<Majiir>
Classes with more credits are usually longer
<SilverFox>
ohh
<Majiir>
Some schools just make the credits equal to hours-per-week
<Majiir>
or hours-per-day
<SilverFox>
i wonder if my school does that
<SilverFox>
also, what's that other korean pancake food?
<SilverFox>
i know there's haemul pajeon
<SilverFox>
probs kimchi pajeon
<Majiir>
heotteok
<Majiir>
or that
<Majiir>
there's lots of kinds of pajeon
<SilverFox>
heotteok?
<SilverFox>
I remember seeing some girl eat a more crispy kind of pancake
<SilverFox>
also, asked my korean teacher about what honorifics to use when talking about other people to people, and from the few examples given, you can use both 어 and 습니다 honorifics with those of 니다 level, but it is recommended to use 니다, and when talking about older people to friends, you still use what you'd use with your friends
<SilverFox>
so in general, you still use the regular honorifics you'd normally use, but it doesn't hurt to use the honorifics that match the person you're talking about
<SilverFox>
okay, a few more examples later and this seems a bit off. If you are talking to someone of seubnida level, you retain seubnida speech, even if the person you are talking to is below seubnida level. Also, if you are talking to someone below seubnida level about someone who is seubnida level, you use seubnida level speech, to pay that person due respect.
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<Rodentman87>
Hello
<SilverFox>
new irc who dis?
<Rodentman87>
New to modding community
<SilverFox>
#kspmodding is where you'll probably want to go then
<Rodentman87>
ok
<angavrilov>
here is where old modders who mostly don't mod or even play the game any more hang out :)
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<Majiir>
You can ask about modding here
<SilverFox>
of course
<Majiir>
#kspmodding is just the folks who can't stand other conversation
<SilverFox>
also there are more useful people for modding in that channel
<Rodentman87>
I'm just starting out, hoping to later make a good multiplayer mod
<Majiir>
paging darklight darkbutt
<SilverFox>
more, useful people, rather than more useful
<Rodentman87>
once I'vegot more experience
<SilverFox>
multiplayer already exists
<SilverFox>
so you can talk to darklight about dmp, or uhh idk
<Rodentman87>
are you talking about dark multiplayer
<SilverFox>
yes, dmp
<Rodentman87>
I'm talking one with individual bases and tech trees and alliances and stuff
<SilverFox>
fork dmp and make that happen
<Majiir>
I'd start simple, get your core functionality working first, and then worry about features later
<Majiir>
Or that
<SilverFox>
rather than reinventing the wheel, use the currently existing tools to get a feel for how things will work or go
<Majiir>
Depends on your programming ability, really
<SilverFox>
that too
<Majiir>
darklight's stuff isn't the end-all-be-all of multiplayer code as he'll probably agree :P
<SilverFox>
he's stated such
<SilverFox>
I never said it was the best
<Majiir>
Sh fox I'm not talking to you
<Rodentman87>
My biggest problem is the networking code
<Majiir>
but if you're not up to the task of building MP yourself, forking can work
<Majiir>
Networking and state synchronization is pretty much *everything* when it comes to multiplayer
<Rodentman87>
I can get everything except the protocol code
<Rodentman87>
That's all I've had issues with
<Majiir>
You may find this interesting, even though these same tricks will not work so well in KSP:
<kmath>
YouTube - Unite 2016 - Building Multiplayer Games with Unity
<Rodentman87>
thanks
<SilverFox>
Majiir, is there not a more recent one done?
<Majiir>
"more recent"?
<SilverFox>
yeah, like this year
<SilverFox>
rather than last year
<Majiir>
.......why?
<Majiir>
this is like a few months ago
<Majiir>
Nothing's changed since then
<Rodentman87>
it's the same version of Unity too
<SilverFox>
fair enough
<Majiir>
You could have a presentation from 10 or 20 years ago and it would still be relevant
<SilverFox>
I guess
<SilverFox>
I can see that
<Majiir>
It's like someone shows you how to use a hammer and you're like UGH but this hammer is OLD
<Majiir>
Yes, it's still a goddamn hammer and it still works with nails
* xShadowx|2
replaces Majiir's hammer with a big rock
<SilverFox>
nawnawnaw, Im more concerned with code examples given or talking about how the engine works if the engine could've been changed since then as to make that method obsolete
<Majiir>
Fox, this presentation is way more about conceptual stuff
<Majiir>
All the Unity stuff discussed is either easily transferrable to other engines, or is a minor specific pitfall of Unity and you wouldn't care about those in another engine anyway
<SilverFox>
my choices based on this picture would be hyojung and whomever is right-most
<SilverFox>
everyone else looks like they're not trying or trying too hard
<Majiir>
.....it's a photoshoot
<Majiir>
There's no 'trying
<SilverFox>
there's definitely no trying for that girl on the middle right
<SilverFox>
holy shit she has the same shirt jihyo has
<Majiir>
and her name is Jiho
<Majiir>
she's just not a whale
<SilverFox>
so close
<Majiir>
Credit card companies keep wasting a ton on ineffective advertising with me
<Majiir>
You'd think with all the data they have, they could figure out what to try and sell me
<Majiir>
but so far it's all shit like "LATE PAYMENTS HAPPEN! GET 0% INTEREST AND FORGIVEN LATE PAYMENTS"
<Majiir>
bruh
<Majiir>
late payments literally never happen
<Majiir>
My credit file has 34 years of on-time payments, and I'm only 25 years old
<Majiir>
and you think selling me a "forgiven late payments" card is going to work
<SilverFox>
late payments dont just "happen", idk why they're encouraging this tardy behaviour
<Majiir>
They make money off the people who carry a balance and pay phat interest
<SilverFox>
also how do you have 34 years of payment experience on only 25 years of life?
<Majiir>
I'm an authorized user on a credit card that opened in 1983
<SilverFox>
how
<SilverFox>
did you inherit it?
<Majiir>
Because you can add authorized users to accounts after the fact
<Majiir>
no
<Majiir>
I was added sometime when I was in high school I think
<Majiir>
but that gives me the credit history all the way back to the account opening
<SilverFox>
ahhh
<Majiir>
It's a great trick and more people should do it
<Majiir>
Dunno if it's the same in Canada, but in the US, credit scores range something like 250 to 850, and anything above 740 is good enough that banks don't care
<Majiir>
My score when I got my first (own) card was >740
<Majiir>
Sadly the bank closed that card a few years ago, so in a few years it'll vanish from my report. But I have my own history now to deal with that