egg|principia|egg changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspmooders | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | <SilverFox> "little" doesn't seem like a real word to me right now
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<Greys> pinging doesnt ddos effectively, youse gotta getta multiplier
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<MobileFox> I'm drunk again, ama
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<darklight> Silverfox, how do you feel about buzzfeed and its support? https://twitter.com/datnofact/status/858102264564789248 :P
<kmath> <datnofact> I'm a bit concerned, @BuzzFeed. https://t.co/XaLOJNLuLV
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<GlassYuri> hey Greys
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<G-Mobile> Yes dear?
<GlassYuri> so about the chinese electric locomotive thing
<G-Mobile> The one with the penguin?
<GlassYuri> I might see one in person
<GlassYuri> the light blue one
<GlassYuri> my mother booked some flights home for me in summer and to make it cheaper gave me some nine and eleven hour layovers in hong kong
<GlassYuri> and these things run there
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<GlassYuri> I highly doubt that I can actually get close to one because those cross border trains seem to have airport like security bullshit
<G-Mobile> You could ask security to talk to an engineer, if they say no whatever, if they say yes, cool
<GlassYuri> I doubt there is any legal or whocares way of entering the platform without taking the cross border train
<GlassYuri> just walking in and telling the staff you're a big fan only works in areas where they've never seen a dumb tourist before
<G-Mobile> Be upfront and accept denial graciously
<G-Mobile> dont fuck be a snoop in god damn china
<GlassYuri> it's hong kong, not china, there may be a difference or not depending on who you ask
<G-Mobile> thats why I said ask to speak with an engineer, you can ask them what it is, and they can tell you, and if you're extra lucky they might offer to show it to you
<G-Mobile> when considering activity that will be responded poorly to, assume the worst
<GlassYuri> in some places there are platform tickets so that even if access is restricted you can dramatically say goodbye to someone taking the train
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<darklight> GlassYuri: Are you applying to be a fat cont, fat cont, a fat controller? https://youtu.be/TDdjzj2FRvw :P
<kmath> YouTube - Ernest the Engine - The Fat Controller - Ernest has a stutter
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<G-Mobile> There should be a WoWlike mmo about forming guilds to build, operate, and maintain a dungeon, which via success and scale translates to land control and access to resources, then dungeons fight over land by sending raids against eachother
<G-Mobile> Then have a mechanic where the world is some kind of infinite procedural, but resource density grows in response to conflict, so if you just left you would be supply limited unless somebody else came to compete with you, and places where players had already built up would be rich
<G-Mobile> The rich get richer but they turn into a target
<G-Mobile> then dungeon expansion capacity scales with player levels and brackets by structure tier and count, so just having more resources correlates to the rate you can build but is not related to how well you can build
<G-Mobile> Also player builds
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<kmath> YouTube - Donald Trump's Tweets As An Early 2000s Emo Song
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<GlassYuri> RandomJeb, awesome
<darklight> To be fair, his twitter feed has an insane amount of power
<darklight> Want to distract the public? Tweet something on twitter!
<darklight> Donald trump ended two political dynasties with a twitter account, a fancy slogan and a cap
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<VITAS> i dont get why ppl find twitter so important. its your constant soap opera jsut treat it like what it is: entertainement for ppl who like to rage
<darklight> VITAS: It's not important at all, but you need to understand
<darklight> * what the main stream media likes :P
<darklight> Oh, trump signs away internet privacy laws? Who cares, he called rosie odonnel fat!
<darklight> That kinda thing is why twitter is powerful. That and he can simply bypass MSM, although the whitehouse youtube channel is better for that
<darklight> Normie twitter is just for narcisists though :P
<darklight> The media would do well to block trump on twitter
<darklight> Or block twitter entirely
<darklight> And facebook too hopefully
<SilverFox> darklight, that's pretty weird
<SilverFox> but I expect that from buzzfeed
<SilverFox> Greys, iirc you can adjust the packet size that you send in pings in linux
<darklight> And windows
<darklight> There's no reason to do that though, at all
<SilverFox> yeah, so I just ping 1MB or something constantly and that should work fine
<darklight> Oh, you are talking about ddos
<darklight> No that won't work :P
<SilverFox> yeah
<SilverFox> I want to ddos my own network
<darklight> You'd UDP spam it if you want to eat traffic, but it won't cut it off
<SilverFox> I dont want to cut it off, I want to reduce it hard
<darklight> Ok, I should ask "why do you want to dos your network" but then I would get an answer I don't think I want :P
<SilverFox> yay you're learning
<darklight> Because if this is anything to do with the pi, just use TC
<darklight> I could make a script called "the australian experience"
<SilverFox> doesnt have to be the pi
<darklight> And it will australiafy your internet
<darklight> Well, it has to be linux
<SilverFox> aight
<SilverFox> write her up
<darklight> If you're serious?
<SilverFox> yup
<darklight> This should be pretty easy :3
<SilverFox> also this shouldn't go through the internet
<SilverFox> it should stay internal
<darklight> Yeah I can do that, just limit it on the interface
<SilverFox> so perhaps if it pings my desktop that'd be great
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<SilverFox> my pi is connected to the router via ethernet, and everything else goes through wifi
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<SilverFox> darklight, how goes that script?
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<darklight> I've done the up/down shaping
<darklight> Now just need to put some lag in
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<SilverFox> and I can run this on my pi?
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<darklight> should be able to, just set the interface
<SilverFox> wait, so this does affect more than the pi right?
<SilverFox> I understand none of what this does
<darklight> It slows down an interface on the pi
<darklight> If you want to experience what I am though right atm because I am shaped
<darklight> Try setting the values to 32kbps
<darklight> Both up and down :P
<SilverFox> but that doesn'
<SilverFox> t slow down the entire network
<SilverFox> that just slows down the pi
<darklight> It will if it goes through the pi
<SilverFox> through the pi like, pi as a router, or any interfance that has the pi on it?
<darklight> You have to put the pi between the internet and whatever device you wish to slow down, although I suggest just opening a browser on the pi
<darklight> Although the slowness of the pi might throw a spanner in the works there :P
<darklight> You can probably add a second ip to the pi and set that as the gateway of whatever you want to slow down too
<darklight> But that is manual bullshit
<darklight> Try pinging the pi
<SilverFox> can't put the pi between the devices I want to slow down
<darklight> Well you can, you just don't have to do it physically
<SilverFox> dont have access to the device I wish to slow down
<darklight> Wat
<SilverFox> I need the *entire* network slowed down
<darklight> Then the pi needs to be the router/gateway
<SilverFox> can't do that
<darklight> You can have two ip addresses on the pi to do it
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<SilverFox> which is why I wanted to ddos
<darklight> You're not going to get the Australian(TM) Experience (pat pending)
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<SilverFox> all I need is this network to come to a crawl
<VITAS> SilverFox, i can dos you if you insist :>
<darklight> Then make the pi your router :<
<darklight> Lol
<SilverFox> can't do that
<SilverFox> VITAS, naww, can't manually control that easily
<VITAS> or just make a cable loop
<darklight> Yes you can, jesus it's like you've never watched bob the builder :P
<darklight> You add a second IP on the pi and use that as the default gateway
<VITAS> if the switch doesn thave loop detection it will instafreeze
<SilverFox> cool how do I stop it?
<VITAS> unplug the cbale
<VITAS> so the loop is broken
<SilverFox> yeah no can't do that
<darklight> I'm starting to wish I gave silverfox a script that didn't do what he wanted
<VITAS> what is your goal?
<SilverFox> to slow down the network
<VITAS> saturete the switch, server,client?
<SilverFox> saturate the router
<VITAS> you can limit the line speed of individual ports on some switches
<SilverFox> can't do that on my router
<VITAS> mine goes down to 64kbit
<SilverFox> it's fucking shit
<darklight> VITAS: Probably tc if it's linux :P
<SilverFox> damn thing barely has port forwarding
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<darklight> It's a handy tool to have :3
<VITAS> if you want to dos the router find out what req takes the longest (to its admin panel)
<darklight> Ah, httperf
<darklight> Tis a good one
<VITAS> yes
<SilverFox> httperf?
<VITAS> http benchmarking tool
<VITAS> that you could missuse to put a high load on the routers cpu
<VITAS> so it cant handle anything else
<SilverFox> nice
<darklight> s/missuse/use
<SilverFox> how do I do it?
* darklight nopes
<SilverFox> so I just put in the default gateway where the server option is right?
<VITAS> the rest is having your browsers webdev tools open and finding the page in the router that takes the longest to load and use that
<SilverFox> I think that would be any of the router's webpages
<SilverFox> they take years to load
<darklight> I also know another thing that would slow your internet right down
<darklight> There is a black button on the back of routers
<SilverFox> oh?
<SilverFox> fuck yo
<darklight> It looks like a circle but it has a line in it
<VITAS> a pair of cisors will work wonders
<VITAS> :P
<darklight> Untwist all the pairs and run them around extension cords
<SilverFox> shit's done via wifi
<SilverFox> that's what I need to slow down
<darklight> Disable the microwave door latch and turn it on
<darklight> That'll release the 2.4ghz everywhere
<SilverFox> im trying httperf
<SilverFox> and it keeps giving me warnings
<darklight> this is why I noped
<SilverFox> "httperf: warning: open file limit > FD_SETSIZE; limiting max. # of open files to FD_SETSIZE
* darklight crabwalks away
<SilverFox> "
<kmath> YouTube - Family Guy - No crab
<darklight> Not right nope crab, but will do
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<darklight> Greys: Do you remember rune clicker? https://youtu.be/QgVUShbTAH4
<kmath> YouTube - Jaycartoons: Donkle Clicker
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<SilverFox> I thnk my router just nopes httperf?
<SilverFox> im getting 0 replies
<darklight> You may have to log in
<darklight> So you need a cookie file probably
<darklight> I assume httperf does cookie files...
<SilverFox> do i run httperf on the router?
<G-Mobile> darklight: nope
<SilverFox> so I can't open the router's webpages
<SilverFox> httperf isn't running
<darklight> G-Mobile: Lucky you :P
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<MobileFox> The router killed itself
<darklight> Success!
<MobileFox> Ayyyylmao
<MobileFox> I didn't even do anything
<MobileFox> It just died lol
<darklight> Shamfur dispray
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<MobileFox> Now I can access the router pages
<MobileFox> ~c 1+1
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<MobileFox> Well shit
<darklight> Yay
<darklight> Best recommendation ever
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<VITAS> hmm i feel like ive handed someone a hand granade who has never seen one. what could go wrong? :D
<xShadowx> VITAS: wanna play some stickball?
<VITAS> :D
<VITAS> no
<xShadowx> baseball? golf?
<xShadowx> catch?
<Thomas> VITAS: Maybe you handed him this type of hand grenade https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9D3yLqXsAAHDvk.jpg
<VITAS> funny but no
<MobileFox> Holy hand grenade?
<darklight> VITAS: Natural selection
<xShadowx> darwinism~
<MobileFox> I cant set the packet size larger than 50kb
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<darklight> Packets aren't bigger than 1500bytes anyway
<darklight> Whatrudoin
<SilverFox> yeah well too bad
<darklight> You'd need bigpackets
<SilverFox> bigpackets/
<darklight> bigpackets
<darklight> Like a normal packet
<SilverFox> how do?
<darklight> but bigger
<VITAS> depends but normaly they arent
<VITAS> uhm packets can but frames arent
<VITAS> thats what i wanted to say
<VITAS> except jumboframes
<VITAS> yes
<darklight> You can set them bigger but it's not common
<SilverFox> the great r4m0n
<darklight> Considering that pmtu is usually fucked from icmp-blocking chucklefucks :P
<VITAS> pakcets will get larger over time
<VITAS> until theres a transmission problem
<VITAS> frames wills tay the same (MTU)
<VITAS> and yes its normaly 1500
<darklight> Unless you live in adsl land, where it's 1492 or something like that
<r4m0n> MTU is the whole packet size, the payload needs to be slightly smaller
<VITAS> or use a vpn
<VITAS> or....
<VITAS> packet or frame?
<VITAS> i wonder
<darklight> We are not talking about jumbo frames to silverfox
<darklight> You've got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em
<SilverFox> to ping this device on my network it's taking 30-50ms
* VITAS tugs away his jumboframe
<darklight> Know when to walk away, and *know when to run*
<darklight> :P
<VITAS> duck and cover
<darklight> I love that
<darklight> Best advice
<SilverFox> hands on your head
<SilverFox> get down low
<SilverFox> duck under cover, bombs comin down
<kmath> YouTube - Duck and Cover
<SilverFox> shit video
<darklight> Well it's not my fault, it was made in the cold war
<darklight> Although I get were are in another red scare atm
<SilverFox> i've created beauty
<GlassYuri> duck and cover sounds ridiculous but isn't
<GlassYuri> not being directly exposed to the fucking thing raises your survival chances astronomically
<SilverFox> so how do I multi-thread or create a bunch of processes in a shell script?
<darklight> xargs
<Thomas> spawn 10 shells and run the same script
<SilverFox> ayyy
<Thomas> :P
<SilverFox> 100 shells sounds better
<darklight> GlassYuri: I like to imagine mr un has a AB/DL fetish
<darklight> He has the fucking face
<darklight> He needs spanking
<GlassYuri> a what fetish
<darklight> Probs best not to google that
<SilverFox> adult baby diaper lover
<GlassYuri> if that is true he deserves even more bullets to his face
<darklight> You can't not look at his face and think "Now here's clearly a guy who didn't get a good spanking"
<SilverFox> so, can I use a shell to spawn other shells and start those shells up with a given command?
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<dlrkdesktop> Anyone got a link to an mmconfig that puts a probe core in the mk1-2 pod?
<darklight> Silverfox
<darklight> yes %
<darklight> *yes &
<SilverFox> is this correct?
<darklight> Errr
<darklight> Why the fuck they are explicitly opening a terminal I have no idea
<darklight> You can just do mycommand &
<SilverFox> so like, ping x.x.x.x & ping x.x.x.x and that runs ping twice?
<darklight> Like if you just want it run
<darklight> & put it in the background
<darklight> But yes
<darklight> while true; do ping blah &; done
<darklight> Try that :P
<SilverFox> how can I do that 100 times without manually writing it?
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<darklight> Use a loop :P
<SilverFox> for(int i = 0; i < 100; i++)?
<darklight> bash is different
<SilverFox> how do?
<darklight> for i in seq 1 100 maybe?
<darklight> I kinda forget
<darklight> `seq 1 100`
<SilverFox> that just printed the sequence to the console
<darklight> for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo $i; done
<darklight> Replace echo with whatever :P
<SilverFox> it printed 'seq 1 100'
<SilverFox> I got it
<SilverFox> alright time to test the script
<SilverFox> hoooooooooooooooooooly fuck
<darklight> plz crash plz crash plz crash
<SilverFox> it's craaaaasssshhhiiiiiiiiing
<Thomas> inb4 silverfox timeouted
<SilverFox> "no buffer space availlable"
<VITAS> and now we see SilverFoxs PC crash :P
<SilverFox> wait, why can't I kill them
<darklight> killall -9 ping
<darklight> Although I shouldn't have said that
<darklight> Let the suffering continue
<Thomas> well, there is the chance that he cant open a new shell anymore :P
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<SilverFox> phew lads
<SilverFox> had to open a new shell for that one
<SilverFox> lets see if I can get openssh on this spare laptop to start on boot
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<SilverFox> i just spawned 1000
<SilverFox> that should be 6.5MB pinging that device
<SilverFox> I crashed the network card on the laptop
<SilverFox> i need to restart lol
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<darklight> VITAS: is this what it feels like when script kiddies go to their first day of scripting school? :P
* darklight has tears in his eyes
<SilverFox> wtf does no buffer space available mean?
<darklight> SilverFox: You get bonus points if you copy the australian script into /etc/rc.local - might have to put #!/bin/sh up the top and exit 0 down the bottom
<darklight> network card is full, can't send more packets
<VITAS> wouldnt know
<darklight> iirc they only have like 64kb of memory?
<darklight> It'll be some arbitrary limit
<darklight> If you want to reduce latency you can reduce those buffers, but that's only when you start getting into "dropping packet" territory
<VITAS> might be that the router limits amount of cpu admin panel stuff can cosnume
<VITAS> i dont even understand what the point of all of this is
<SilverFox> WAIT
<SilverFox> MY PI CLUSTER
<SilverFox> LESSSGOOOOOOOOOOOO
<darklight> SilverFox: Try this special smiley :(){ :|: & };:
<SilverFox> wtf is that
<darklight> A special smiley
<SilverFox> and I bet it CPU lockups
<SilverFox> lets see if I can dos my own desktop, maybe I'm not getting the right IP address
<SilverFox> by activating my nuke, I added 9ms to the speedtest and dropped speeds by 1Mb/s
<darklight> I really should just think you should use the Australian Experience
<darklight> You can make the pi a gateway....
<SilverFox> yeah well that can go suck a dick because I can't do that
<darklight> "Can't"
<darklight> What is this word
<darklight> You keep using that word, I do not think you know what it means
<SilverFox> I am unable
<darklight> But you will never experience the Australian Experience
<SilverFox> that is too bad
<darklight> Yes
<darklight> You are missing an experience
<VITAS> i had it when i had sateleite internet back in the days
<darklight> VITAS: Would you like to experience? :P
<darklight> Try with 30kbps because shaping
<VITAS> i was online when everyone had 300baud modems
<VITAS> so i say: poser
<VITAS> :P
<SilverFox> 300baud wtf
<VITAS> yes you could whistle your characters in real time :D
<VITAS> and yes im old
<SilverFox> i now have 2 devices pinging the fuck out of the router
<SilverFox> sending 66B
<VITAS> its not about the amount of data but hte amoutn of req.
<VITAS> and what the serve rhas to do for it
<SilverFox> my pi; which is connected via ethernet to the router, is getting times as high 23ms
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<MobileFox> The router killed itself
<VITAS> isnt that what you wanted?
<MobileFox> Kind of
<MobileFox> If I can control this enough then it'll work
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<darklight> I call it
<darklight> The australian experience https://pastebin.com/VbvqHZ7q
<darklight> IT people hate him! Try this One Simple Tip
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<darklight> Fun fact, I had youtube going and I couldn't ssh into my server
<darklight> On my own network...
<darklight> :P
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<darklight> Suddenly, nobody in turkey knows what a spark plug is https://xkcd.com/903/
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<MobileFox> I think the router died again
<MobileFox> The router just gets flooded and dies
<MobileFox> Fucking great
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<darklight> I'm seeing a lot of awoo girl on twitter....
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<MobileFox> My pi died
<MobileFox> That's why i couldn't connect
<MobileFox> Now to do it again
<SilverFox> lets see if I can bridge another pi in here
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<SilverFox> so i bridged my wifi and ethernet connections on my desktop so my o-pi can have internet access but it didnt work
<SilverFox> the o-pi doesnt have internet
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<SilverFox> and I can't enable ssh unless I can connect to the internet
<darklight> wat
<darklight> IPv6 is really good for sshing :P
<SilverFox> i need to download openssh
<darklight> ping6 ff02::1%interface to find it
<darklight> Ah ok
<SilverFox> but i cant do that without internet
<SilverFox> so apparently it comes with it installed
<SilverFox> got that running
<SilverFox> tried to ssh and the connection is refused
<SilverFox> *sigh*
<SilverFox> fuuuuck it
<SilverFox> wait I have a pi0
<SilverFox> nvm it's refusing that too
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<darklight> copy the package from /var/cache/apt/archive
<darklight> Tben dpkg -i file.dlkv
<darklight> *.deb
<SilverFox> naw I could get it running but that's it
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<SilverFox> Greys, do you remember the LiteBright?
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