egg|principia|egg changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspmooders | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | <SilverFox> "little" doesn't seem like a real word to me right now
<SilverFox>
yo Majiir, in Korean League "Minion" is translated as 미니언, yet I think it should be 미년. Is this just a dialect I have or what?
<SilverFox>
then again, I guess it's the same thing, just my way is more condensed
<SilverFox>
also wtf I can't play league in korean now because ?????????
<SilverFox>
fucking riot
<SilverFox>
I can play in japanese tho sooooooooooo???????
<Greys>
somebody needs to make openTTD with crafting and base construction
<SilverFox>
somebody needs to get me my fucking korean league
<Greys>
korean openTTD?
<Greys>
oTTD could be played with brail, or even shadow puppets
<Greys>
a hypothesis is an idea, and a theory is an idea supported by a body of evidence and testing
<Majiir>
Would we know Silver is always wrong before having a large body of evidence of consistent wrongness?
<Greys>
I mean, he's also wrong because as far as I know a theorem has to be math
<Greys>
silverfox - intelligence = silverfox
<Greys>
there
<Majiir>
intelligence = 0?
<SilverFox>
that's the joke
<Majiir>
the math checks out
<Greys>
or silverfox = -infinity
<Majiir>
Silverfox can be anything in that equation
<SilverFox>
anyways, lets get back to the part where you say 미니언 is wrong and how it is wrong
<Majiir>
no that's the right version
<Greys>
yes but if silverfox is infinity then intelligence can be non-zero
<Majiir>
you had a different wrong version
<SilverFox>
indeed it is, so why did you say "neither"?
<SilverFox>
I provided two options
<Majiir>
Greys, you might be right, but I can't count to infinity
<Majiir>
I can only count to a few billion in English, and I can only count to four in Korean
<SilverFox>
I can count to ten in both numbering systems in korean
<SilverFox>
Im rather proud of that, took me about half hour
<Greys>
I think I can count to 3 in japanese, base zero; but I'm probably wrong
<Majiir>
turns out it's completely useless to know numbers under 1000 when you want to buy things
<SilverFox>
I assumed as much
<SilverFox>
okay so how is ㅕ different from ㅣ + ㅓ?
<SilverFox>
because im 98% sure they're the same sound, just different speeds if anything
<Greys>
one implication of my job is that a lot of our customers point their domain registration services and other such bullshit at our generic email address; so I get their notifications all day long
<Majiir>
It's the difference between one syllable and two
<Greys>
I have 5 emails right now about somebody buying an SSL cert
<Majiir>
That could be a neat way to socially engineer your way into a cert
<Majiir>
(1) try to get a DV cert for one of the domains your customer controls
<Majiir>
(2) call up Greys
<Majiir>
(3) say "hey I had it sent to the wrong place can you enter the validation thing for domain XYZ"
<Majiir>
(4) hope Greys is feeling particularly like watching the world burn
<SilverFox>
YESSSS I GOT THE CLIENT TO DOWNLOAD KOREAN SHIT
<SilverFox>
fuck yeah
<Majiir>
I played League in Korea
<SilverFox>
yeah ping was shit
<SilverFox>
how was PC Bang btw?
<SilverFox>
are they kept in rather good conditions, or is it as stingey and gross as I think they are?
<Majiir>
The ones we went to were quite clean and tidy
<Majiir>
The computers were not so clean and tidy
<SilverFox>
full of cum I presume
<Majiir>
I'm talking about the installs
<SilverFox>
new liquid cooling technique
<SilverFox>
I wonder how well semen would cool a computer
<Majiir>
I think to be successful at a PCbang you need to bring a flash drive with all the shit you want
<SilverFox>
what are the specs of those computers like?
<SilverFox>
mid-range?
<Majiir>
Probably
<SilverFox>
yo so if I'm equal to infinity, can't we type cast that to a position, making me everywhere and nowhere at once?
<RandomJeb>
they tried opening one of those places here in the late 90's
<RandomJeb>
way too soon for a gaming café in a remote township, they went under pretty quick
<Majiir>
I'd like to see an actual cafe
<SilverFox>
that's what they get for not scoping the market correctly
<SilverFox>
Majiir, like the sheep cafe?
<Majiir>
like they had cat cafes, but it not PC cafes that I could find
<SilverFox>
the lemur cafe?
<Majiir>
We did cats and raccoons
<SilverFox>
fucking gross dude
<Majiir>
Raccon cafe was bitchin
<SilverFox>
succ
<Majiir>
Full of gorgeous girls
<Majiir>
right next to the women's university
<SilverFox>
and coon booty
<SilverFox>
that sly cooper if you know what I mean
<Majiir>
Why do you live your life saying stupid shit
<SilverFox>
because it entertains me
<SilverFox>
solely for that reason
<SilverFox>
helps me cope with painful existence
<Majiir>
Painful because you keep doing stupid shit just like that.
<SilverFox>
I survive off of the force of self-deprication
<Majiir>
Also there is no pain in Canada
<SilverFox>
you are VERY wrong
<Majiir>
just crushing mediocrity
<SilverFox>
frostbite
<SilverFox>
and spilling your double double
<RandomJeb>
frostbite doesn't really hurt unless you pick at it
<SilverFox>
yeah totes dude
<SilverFox>
Majiir, take a guess at how I got around rito banning korean language in the client
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<Majiir>
I'm sure by doing something incredibly smart of your own invention
<SilverFox>
not particularly
<Majiir>
:shocked.jpg:
<SilverFox>
but take a guess or two at what you tihnk I did
<Majiir>
(1) changed Windows language
<SilverFox>
nope
<Majiir>
(2) google'd and did whatever the first thread said
<SilverFox>
yes but that failed
<SilverFox>
half points
<Majiir>
This is boring
<Majiir>
We need something more interesting
<Majiir>
1. Docker needs to be less confusing
<Majiir>
The documentation is shit and way too example-oriented
<Majiir>
darklight, Docker is built on a great idea, and as far as I can tell the software is okay, and the documentation and ecosystem is just overpromising garbage
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<darklight>
I think it's a great tool if you want to run something exactly once
<darklight>
But people are using it where a VM is a tad more appropriate
<Majiir>
VMs are quite heavy
<darklight>
Like clean builds, I can understand that
<darklight>
And yeah, I understand that too
<icefire>
oh my god that was funny
<Majiir>
My main use case is running lots of services in isolation, because I sure don't want 50 VMs, and I don't want just one either
<Majiir>
icefire, the last one (Typing the Technical Interview) is amazing
<darklight>
But docker wants you to run a "vm" (I know it's not) for every fucking application
<Majiir>
darklight, that is in fact the entire selling point
<Majiir>
Containerization is the point of Docker, not a side effect
<darklight>
Maybe I can get that it would improve your ability to move services between boxes
<darklight>
But I'm still not *quite* getitng it, but then again I'm not a google security analyist
<Majiir>
You can basically run a different Linux distro for every container
<Majiir>
except it's all on one host, and *not* virtualized
<darklight>
I get that part
<darklight>
I have used it before
<darklight>
Which is why I have a hatred for it, because I used it where it did not belong :P
<darklight>
But people seem overly enthusiastic about using this when it gives them zero advantage
<Majiir>
Well yea
<Majiir>
That's just typical Silicon Valley shit
<darklight>
I'm talking specifically about spacedock, but *shrugs*
<darklight>
Tis done now so I won't poke it :P
<Majiir>
I think containerizing Spacedock is reasonable, but that's a deployment consideration IMO, not a development one
<darklight>
I also am amused when people try to setup jenkins when a simple xbuild and mv will do :P
<Majiir>
I definitely don't like tying a piece of code to Docker
<darklight>
I believe jenkins has a lot of hatred with people trying to do simple things
<SilverFox>
Majiir, on the second one, all this code looks beautiful
<darklight>
"The javanisse. Surely you have heard of him! He is a small, magical man–something like a gnome–who inhabits every JVM. If you do not set out an extra constant for him, he can cause segfaults." what
<SilverFox>
fuck, it just launched the korean client, not NA client
<SilverFox>
well that's rather disappointing
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<SilverFox>
electronics people of modders, is a power factor of 1.0 good or bad or variably so depending on use-case/situation?
<darklight>
It is ideal
<darklight>
However, if you want to know what it actually *is*, and why, the explaination is a bit longer
<teabot>
Explainateaon.
<SilverFox>
dont need the explaination, but you can provide such if you want
<SilverFox>
What I know is how "in-sync" the voltage and current is
<darklight>
That's pretty much it
<darklight>
A capacitor will have a power factor of 0 - there will be current, but it won't use any power
<SilverFox>
tungsten lamps are 1.0 because the load is just a wire; a resistor
<darklight>
Inductors are big chunks of metal so will never be zero, unless it was superconducting I guess - a bit coil of wire has lots of resistence as well as inductance :P
<darklight>
Yeah
<SilverFox>
is it ideal always?
<SilverFox>
and what benefits does a higher power factor provide?
<darklight>
Well power is v*a*power factor
<darklight>
If you have a shitty power factor you'll draw more amps than you really need
<teabot>
Shittea.
<darklight>
Eg, a power factor of 0.5 means the cable needs to carry double
<SilverFox>
ahh
<darklight>
I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't want ideal power factors, although for home appliances obviously you'll draw the line somewhere :P
<SilverFox>
fair enough
<SilverFox>
so is there thusly good premise for trying to optimize for power factor?
<darklight>
Save on copper pretty much
<darklight>
It doesn't have to be perfect, and for small things it doesn't really matter
<SilverFox>
I feel like optimizing for such would be good for RC applications like planes, since you need to save power wherever you can to get the best flight times
<SilverFox>
things which run for long periods of time too is good to have good power factor then
<SilverFox>
and obviously large power draw things, but come on
<darklight>
Planes are DC
<darklight>
Err
<darklight>
Actually
<darklight>
I think you mean planey planes, nevermind :P
<darklight>
RC stuff is DC though, and powerfactor is stricly an AC thing
<SilverFox>
right, because frequency
<SilverFox>
I forgot
<darklight>
It takes a little bit to understand how capacitors and inductors work in AC circuits, but yeah
<SilverFox>
naw im just being fucktarded as usual
<darklight>
As far as planes go, weight, and current draw are probably the biggest things to worry about
<darklight>
It's not that fucktarded a question though really
<darklight>
I think my plane peaks at 30A, maybe 40?
<SilverFox>
jesus
<darklight>
Its a 350W motor
<SilverFox>
11.5A?
<SilverFox>
12A?
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<darklight>
;wa 350W/11.1v
<kmath>
darklight: 350×W/11.1 v = 31.5315 v W
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<darklight>
ah, it wanted a v
<darklight>
;wa 350W/11.1V
<kmath>
darklight: (350 W (watts))/(11.1 V (volts)): 31.53 W/V (watts per volt)
<darklight>
28mm*36mm rotor if I remember how those numbers work
<darklight>
I was wrong, the dimensions show you, that's the size of the entire motor
<darklight>
About 1kg of thrust :P
<SilverFox>
so how do I take that number and put it into useful numbers for mass/weight
<darklight>
It tells you it weighs 70 grams
<SilverFox>
I mean, in terms of how heavy the craft can be and shit
<darklight>
I have literally no idea, having a TWR>1 though means you can hover and defintiely have enough power, without my camera gear I get over 1 and it flies lovely, with the camera gear it's not, but it's close and still flies fine
<SilverFox>
right, I want to take that number and turn it into TWR
<darklight>
motor thrust / total weight
<SilverFox>
so what's the thrust / weight of the motor?
<darklight>
Well that's kinda useless to say, as you need batteries / esc / receivers / the rest of the plane :P
<SilverFox>
yes
<SilverFox>
but
<SilverFox>
that gets factored into it later
<darklight>
I'm not really one for numbers, I throw the thing and hope for the best on new builds
<darklight>
Lol
<SilverFox>
those are all variables, the TWR of the motor is constant at full power, theoretically
<darklight>
I don't fly full power all the time, I actually spend most of my time on half throttle
<SilverFox>
you get the idea
<SilverFox>
if you have a TWR of 1, then add something the weight of the motor, it should half, and be 0.5, yeah?
<darklight>
If I have a plane that weights 1kg and has a twr of 1 and add 100 grams of weight, it'll have a twr of 0.9
<darklight>
(0.9090909, close enough)
<SilverFox>
calc it for 200% weight
<darklight>
1/2 :P
<SilverFox>
yeeee boiii
<SilverFox>
see
<SilverFox>
useful information now
<SilverFox>
we just ratio the fuck out of things from this point
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<darklight>
"If your thrust to weight ratio is above 1, then everything goes out
<darklight>
the window because you don't need your wings to fly anymore."
<darklight>
lol
<darklight>
I should calculate the wing loading for the lulz
<SilverFox>
im a more formula math person on this thing because I can't do it practically
<darklight>
I think generally you make a thing and throw it and see if it flies
<SilverFox>
yeah I dont like wasting resources like that
<RandomJeb>
then you just gotta get good at eyeballing it
<SilverFox>
naw, you can calculate everything
<SilverFox>
and with a bit of over-engineering you'll be fine
<RandomJeb>
don't calculate, then you lose out on all the trial and error optimization
<SilverFox>
yeah well wont need that if it goes right the first time
<darklight>
The bants are nice
<darklight>
You'll get a feeling for what defintiely won't work
<RandomJeb>
they eyeballed a lot of structural integrity when they rebuilt this place after ww2 (scorched earth tactics deployed by the germans, not much left)
<SilverFox>
that doesnt make me feel any better about the structural integrity
<RandomJeb>
some old post war buildings turn out to be able to take waaaay more load than they're bearing, to the point where bulldozers and other heavy machinery have a hard time pulling them apart
<RandomJeb>
others fall apart at the hint of a breeze
<RandomJeb>
it's all part of the fun of the kerbal philosophy
<darklight>
The tail boom on that thing are aerials, and I might steal that idea :D
<SilverFox>
yeah that's what kerbal is for
<RandomJeb>
kerbalism is a philosophy, a way of life
<darklight>
I love when things go wrong
<darklight>
"We've added 47kg of weight to the nose"
<SilverFox>
i dont
<SilverFox>
jesus christ
<darklight>
The exaduration makes this channel :P
<SilverFox>
;wa density of PVC
<kmath>
SilverFox: poly(vinyl chloride)->density: 1.4 g/cm^3 (grams per cubic centimeter)
<SilverFox>
;wa density of cardboard
<kmath>
SilverFox: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish
<SilverFox>
fuck you
<darklight>
polystyrene is light but soooo freaking weak
<darklight>
Models use EPO
<darklight>
But I just use foamboard, cardboard would work though
<SilverFox>
yeah that's why I dont like using styrofoam
<SilverFox>
like, the planes I'd build would be relatively big and powerful, because I want them to be sturdy and handle a light crash or two
<SilverFox>
and have wheels
<SilverFox>
and have good flight times, and have flight systems and shit
<SilverFox>
and I'll probs put some weather doodads on it
<darklight>
You will crash
<SilverFox>
Im not saying I wont
<SilverFox>
saying it needs to be able to handle it when I do
<SilverFox>
like if I tail strike a bit, I dont want half my craft to be gone because grass2stronk
<SilverFox>
if I nosedive into the ground, I expect it to die, that's for sure
<darklight>
You're more likely going to either smash a nose or wingtip
<kmath>
YouTube - 2-Stage Water Rocket flies to 810' (246m)
<SilverFox>
welllllll
<SilverFox>
I'll be using water
<SilverFox>
soooo same
<SilverFox>
it's just, divorced water
<darklight>
Remember delta-v :P
<SilverFox>
yeah?
<darklight>
I have no idea how you intent to compress hydrogen :P
<SilverFox>
cool it
<SilverFox>
you can't compress it at normal temps or it fuckin explodes
<SilverFox>
cool it, put it in the tank, launch
<darklight>
Why would hydrogen you compress explode?
<SilverFox>
because hydrogen likes to explode and I dont want to risk it
<SilverFox>
but I also want more bang for the buck I dont spend
<SilverFox>
because in part of investing in the electrolysis setup would be solar
<SilverFox>
it would be soooo inefficient holy fuckeroo
<SilverFox>
mainly because in order to further reduce salts and improve yield, I wont be using salts to increase conductivity and shit
<SilverFox>
because you can fuck with the chemistry sometimes
<RandomJeb>
every time electrolysis of water comes up my brain has a bit of a chuckle thinking about this one swede who thought he was inventing a hydrogen gas injector that ran off the car battery and provided more fuel efficiency
<RandomJeb>
while what he was really doing was steaming up water and adding it to the air mixture
<SilverFox>
pffffft
<SilverFox>
nice one
<SilverFox>
so my setup would be: water in -> 3x+ distillation process -> water reservoir -> solar electrolysis unit -> Hydrogen storage + Oxygen storage -> rocket storage -> combustion chamber
<darklight>
Salt is NaCl, so you made chlorine gas along with the hydrogen/oxygen
<SilverFox>
yes, dont want that shit in with the hydrogen
<darklight>
What you'd do is just boost it to stupid voltages
<SilverFox>
yeah but that's power inefficient
<darklight>
Anything you do is going to be
<SilverFox>
electrolysis of water is ideally at 1.2something volts, ideally practically 1.5ish volts, and mainly practically 5ish volts
<darklight>
It takes more energy to get hydrogen/oxygen from water than it does when you burn it
<RandomJeb>
1.23v iirc
<darklight>
I'd probably stick 300V up its ass
<SilverFox>
jesus fucking christ
<SilverFox>
you'd arc the damn electrodes
<darklight>
You're not going to get much oxygen/hydrogen if you don't :P
<SilverFox>
burning point of kerosene is 220 degrees
<SilverFox>
it's the current, not the voltage
<darklight>
And the only reason I said 300v is because if you stick AC into a rectifier that's what you get
<darklight>
If you don't care about the mixing of gasses you can just use ac
<darklight>
But then you're in dangerious territory :P
<SilverFox>
I care very much about the mixing of gases
<SilverFox>
chlorine gas likes to corrode shit iirc
<RandomJeb>
you'd make the water act funny if you stuck a bunch of volts through it, though I don't think you get any bridging effects at just 300v
<SilverFox>
18v is overkill for this
<darklight>
You'll definitely get a coffeecutor though
<Greys>
I bought a similar folding keyboard before passing out yesterday; just making sure I didn't buy the worst possible unit since these are an unclaimed product every brand you've never heard of is rebranding, that was an alternative
<Greys>
that one's really weird because it's only like three rows tall
<Greys>
that hinge would definitely mess with me, and overall it's too slim; the one I got has hinges that extend downwards a bit when unfolded; but also they're not centered so most of the time they'll fall under my palm
<Greys>
a lottory, where every day they pick a thousand orders with free shipping at random, and (offer to) upgrade them to 2 day
<Greys>
it'll cost them within a rounding error of nothing, and everyone who uses the free shipping thing will start to get that skinnerbox thing
<angavrilov>
so I wonder what's the best irc client for android these days
<darklight>
I use andchat
<angavrilov>
that's what I have on my old phone, but it seems it stopped updating years ago?..
<angavrilov>
or is it still the best despite that
<darklight>
Wow, I didn't even know :P
<darklight>
Last updated 2013 it seems
<angavrilov>
probably easiest to just install it on the new phone anyway since I've been using it
<darklight>
Before I used andchat, I used androIRC but that thing flattened my batteries something shocking
<darklight>
*shrugs*, it works, and I don't have any major problems with it
<darklight>
There's no "edit topic" though, and you can't copy paste messages, which are my only gripes with it
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<Greys>
you "can" copy paste messages
<Greys>
you won't
<Greys>
"HID Global is an American manufacturer of secure identity solutions. The company is a subsidiary of Assa Abloy, a Swedish global leader in door opening solutions."
<Greys>
"The Wiegand interface is a de facto wiring standard which arose from the popularity of Wiegand effect card readers in the 1980s. It is commonly used to connect a card swipe mechanism to the rest of an electronic entry system. The sensor in such a system is often a "Wiegand wire", based on the Wiegand effect, discovered by John R. Wiegand. A Wiegand-compatible reader is normally connected to a Wiegand-compatible security panel."
<kmath>
YouTube - Dangerous Toy Modification-RC hexapod Flamethrower
<Greys>
that looks wholesome
<Greys>
customers who bought RFID readers also bought: RFID cards, yubiKeys, nintendo switch screen protectors, other rfid readers
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<SilverFox>
So, how do I get around hydrogen burning so hot?
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<SilverFox>
Greys, back onto the topic of VR desktops, how do you solve the problem of ads Z-screening(Where they perfectly fit behind an open window such as to not be able to close it easily)?
<darklight>
SilverFox: Don't use hydrogen, or I assume run it outside of it's perfect mixture, so maybe try burning rich
<darklight>
>ave video is 28 minutes, mlp starts in 29
<SilverFox>
also, when you look down at where your keyboard should be, it should let through the image of your keyboard, for people who look at their keyboards while typing
<darklight>
Coincidence, I think not
<SilverFox>
darklight, I might have to, or give up re-usability and make the engines out of 3D printed plastic or aluminium
<darklight>
If you are silly enough to play with fire, then make the sugar mix
<SilverFox>
no, too much time and baking
<SilverFox>
can't automate it nicely
<RandomJeb>
the problem of z-screening should be relatively simple
<SilverFox>
RJ, it should be
<RandomJeb>
give me a console and give me a kill command
<SilverFox>
too slow
<RandomJeb>
I've got time
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<SilverFox>
just make sure that no window is fully behind another window, such that it is always clickable
<SilverFox>
click for focus, X to kill
<SilverFox>
darklight, why would I make the sugar mix when I could just buy rocket packages?
<SilverFox>
I wonder if I can buy them off the internet
<RandomJeb>
making the sugar mix yourself saves you a lot of money
<SilverFox>
probably, but I can do it for "free" with the electrolysis route
<SilverFox>
we dont pay for water here so ezpz
<darklight>
I doubt you'll be able to compress enough of it to get enough weight in it :P
<SilverFox>
ooh darklight, I could have air intakes on my rockets and it could use the atmosphere's oxygen for burning, that shit should make it burn colder
<darklight>
You'd play with the mix
<SilverFox>
if I need a big boost I'll use kerosene
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<SilverFox>
but problem with kerosene is that you need a fancy way of storing it
<SilverFox>
whereas you can probs store hydrogen in plastic container
<G-Mobile>
SilverFox: is there some korean tv station that's like, 168
<SilverFox>
like, years old? wtf is 168?
<G-Mobile>
like the name of it
<SilverFox>
I have no clue what you're on about
<SilverFox>
what is 168?
<G-Mobile>
is there a korean tv station NAMED 168 or something like that
<SilverFox>
ah, uhhh
<SilverFox>
lemme check
<G-Mobile>
you're bad at english, you should stop using it
<SilverFox>
working on it
<SilverFox>
you also need to specify more, you're bad at learning
<RandomJeb>
if you're storing your manufactured hydrogen in plastic containers you're going to need a really big property
<SilverFox>
ones I have access too only go up to 24, so no, I don't know of any korean tv station named 168
<RandomJeb>
<_<
<G-Mobile>
what are their names like
<SilverFox>
yeah hydrogen isn't very dense, not expecting much
<SilverFox>
Greys, do you have internets yet?
<G-Mobile>
hydrogen is very not dense
<G-Mobile>
no, for ease reasons I've decided to hold out
<G-Mobile>
I have a working solution for now and everything is easier if I wait
<SilverFox>
alright, well, basically a bunch of letters, with most of them being like we have over here in the west, but then KBS, SBS, and JTBC added
<SilverFox>
MBS
<SilverFox>
a lot of <X>Broadcasting Station
<G-Mobile>
KTV?
<SilverFox>
uhhhh
<SilverFox>
nope, dont see it
<G-Mobile>
mmm
<SilverFox>
I googled it and it's a karoake thing
<SilverFox>
not korean
<SilverFox>
Why do you ask?
<G-Mobile>
weird koreans
<SilverFox>
the closest thing to KTV I can find is KBS, Korean Broadcasting Station
<SilverFox>
or Korea Broadcasting Station, don't know which, never looked into it
<G-Mobile>
or Kent Boner Situations
<RandomJeb>
Ken Bone
<SilverFox>
Kent Mansley, work for the government
<G-Mobile>
Kreuzung Bought Stuff
<RandomJeb>
never 4get
<GlassYuri>
G-Mobile, I'm a foreigner, I steal
<SilverFox>
and do drugs all the time
<GlassYuri>
and steal jobs on social benefits
<SilverFox>
hide them in your basement
<GlassYuri>
I like your suggestion that I have a basement
<SilverFox>
fine then, put it in that cupboard between the washing machine in your kitchen and under the kitchen sink
<GlassYuri>
I like your suggestion that I have a kitchen
<SilverFox>
holy fuck dude
<SilverFox>
do you live in a morgue?
<SilverFox>
do you pull out your dorm on a shelf?
<GlassYuri>
I mean I have a kitchen but it's 1sqm, not many jobs to hide there
<SilverFox>
oh, Greys, there's tvN
<SilverFox>
that's a popular one too
<SilverFox>
that's plenty of space to put jobs
<GlassYuri>
also the washing machine is right next to the kitchen but there is a wall inbetween, and I'm not tearing out potentially structural walls just to hide something
<SilverFox>
also sqanything is a terrible measurement
<SilverFox>
doesn't give you an idea of what the dimensions are
<SilverFox>
you know that shit wont be a cube
<GlassYuri>
1x1
<SilverFox>
no way your kitchenette is a cube
<GlassYuri>
cube would mean it's 1m high
<SilverFox>
I demand pics and 30 of them per second
<SilverFox>
Im calling links or you're lying
<GlassYuri>
currently not in a state to show it to anyone
<SilverFox>
if you fail to provide links, then the claims you have made that are being refuted are false
<teabot>
Refutead.
<SilverFox>
this is the law of the land
<GlassYuri>
I said I cannot hide a *job* in the kitchen and you don't believe
<kmath>
YouTube - My little Pony Season 7 Premiere [Livestream]
<SilverFox>
ew
<SilverFox>
get your shit outta here
<darklight>
:P
<SilverFox>
this commercial has people toothbrushing their gums
<SilverFox>
who the fuck goes *that* far off the track
<SilverFox>
do yall lack a cerebellum?
<darklight>
Errr
<darklight>
Like the gumline definitely
<SilverFox>
yeah no this was way past that
<darklight>
Because it's not like the gum instantly is attached to the teeth at the gumline
<SilverFox>
like, the entire gum was fucked up
<RandomJeb>
nothing wrong with brushing your gums
<RandomJeb>
though the brush is abrasive so you should be a bit careful to not carve yourself up
<SilverFox>
these gums were fucked the fuck up
<SilverFox>
lookin like a bear paw was used as a toothbrush
<SilverFox>
like, how angry you be?
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<SilverFox>
why the fuck do koreans translate the sounds pikachu makes into hweekachyoo
<SilverFox>
like, they have about 3 p sounds like can be used
<GlassYuri>
密保设置 = set up secret bulgaria
<SilverFox>
what
<GlassYuri>
don't ask me, I'm just pretending to know chinese
<SilverFox>
figured it was chinese
<SilverFox>
why chinese tho
<SilverFox>
yo wait, if koreans vacation to jeju and japan, do the japanese vacation in korea?
<GlassYuri>
the japanese vacation in their office
<SilverFox>
they vacation in their hones
<SilverFox>
homes
<SilverFox>
2 hour vacations OP
<SilverFox>
but seriously, where do the japanese vacation to?
<GlassYuri>
so there's world.taobao.com hosted in singapore, from there I went to member1.taobao.com hosted in china, and then i.taobao.com in the US
<GlassYuri>
this site is so fucking fascinating
<SilverFox>
truly international
<GlassYuri>
it's also truly international in that it's in the most spoken language of the world
<SilverFox>
chinese?
<GlassYuri>
well the user registration screen is available in english
<GlassYuri>
so you can complete missions and level up
<GlassYuri>
on a fucking online shopping site
<SilverFox>
sounds pretty superior
<G-Mobile>
what's so fascinating about that
<G-Mobile>
probably each of those pages is a portal service they're buying from another company
<GlassYuri>
yeah it's a platform like ebay
<GlassYuri>
so alipay suddenly switched to japanese, then back to chinese
<SilverFox>
they should remove odd-numbers from the volume settings on TVs
<SilverFox>
nobody likes using them
<SilverFox>
yanno what's funny
<SilverFox>
yall in the states have entire states that are just "buttfuck nowhere" always
<darklight>
Welp, that was 3 streams shut down :P
<G-Mobile>
canada has one of those
<darklight>
SilverFox: I like multiples of 5
<darklight>
So fuck you
<darklight>
:P
<GlassYuri>
so I went to the english language alipay site, which seemed to accept my login from taobao but then redicred me to aliexpress, which wants me to agree to the alibaba terms of use
<G-Mobile>
I like unspecified bars
<SilverFox>
bars are okay
<SilverFox>
its the numbers people are worried about
<GlassYuri>
I'm okay with anything as long as the steps are small enough
<darklight>
"<SilverFox> they should remove odd-numbers from the volume settings on TVs" implementing the nearly-mozzila method I see
<SilverFox>
i do use their services
<GlassYuri>
so aliexpress said I have to add my email (not like I fucking did that on registering for taobao), then when I clicked on that it went to chinese alipay and said I have to two factor with a sms code because unknown computer (same fucking pc I signed up with)
<GlassYuri>
then on the add e-mail page when you started typing it would automatically suggest "@..." with a list of common chinese e-mail providers, which was kinda neat but unnecessary for me
<G-Mobile>
Why have numbers on your volume system
<GlassYuri>
so now I had to do another sms code verification and now have to set another password for alipay
<GlassYuri>
alipay has a short introduction of their user interface (at least in the english version) and it's kinda awesomely done
<GlassYuri>
the logout process from english alipay redirects between alipay and aliexpress like five times or more
<GlassYuri>
so despite the fact that I had to set an alipay password and I made it different from my taobao password, I can log into both english and chinese alipay with my taobao password
<GlassYuri>
G-Mobile, do you still think it's not fascinating
<GlassYuri>
so now my alipay account is complete, and I can go back to the taobao vip tab, where I had to login again, which required another sms confirmation and then receive the 50 points for linking an alipay account
<G-Mobile>
it's lego web services
<G-Mobile>
what do the points do?
<SilverFox>
sounds pretty great
<GlassYuri>
G-Mobile, give incentives for buying more through their platform
<G-Mobile>
buy what?
<G-Mobile>
train shaped anal dildos?
<GlassYuri>
fake luxury brand handbags that get seized by customs
RockyTV|away is now known as RockyTV
<G-Mobile>
giant replica ozzy osborne but casts
<GlassYuri>
so I got another 50 points for having my phone number linked, despite the fact that it was the first thing they asked for on signup
<G-Mobile>
butt
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<GlassYuri>
and it also said 50 for my real name but then it takes me to a page which wants my chinese passport
<G-Mobile>
how many 1/82nd model train flatbed cars can you buy for 100 points
<GlassYuri>
since not everyone is chinese, a passport from taiwan, hong kong or macau is also okay
<GlassYuri>
1/87 you idiot
<G-Mobile>
that's phonetically almost identical
<G-Mobile>
I assume 100 points is less than one flatbed so give me a decimal
<GlassYuri>
I got another 50 points for having filled out some other part of the basic registration form
<GlassYuri>
G-Mobile, these aren't cash points, they're levelup points
<darklight>
You hand over your passport for points that do nothing?
<GlassYuri>
1) privacy protection in china is shit 2) might be required if you want to sell something for scam protection 3) also maybe can detect if you sign up under a stolen identity
<GlassYuri>
SilverFox also said that korean porn sites need your social security number so some countries just don't get privacy
<SilverFox>
false
<SilverFox>
porn is illegal
<SilverFox>
if you want some tiddy, you need SSN
<SilverFox>
for medical stuff on google or something
<GlassYuri>
porn is also "illegal" in japan
<SilverFox>
yeah, I have seen korean tv porn tho
<SilverFox>
how is porn illegal in japan?
<SilverFox>
there's like, literally all of it
<GlassYuri>
yeah, but the plug and socket are pixelated, so it's not porn, just adult only video
<SilverFox>
reeeeeeeeeee
<SilverFox>
that's bullshit
<SilverFox>
korea blurs the bottom halves as well
<SilverFox>
however, does japan take down porn blogs/sites?
<SilverFox>
because I've seen plenty a korean porn blog get taken down
<GlassYuri>
korea also jams japanese radio and tv signal IIRC
<SilverFox>
yeah, still waiting on an apology for all that shit in the early 1900's
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<GlassYuri>
wait do I have to pay to receive international sms
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<RandomJeb>
depends on your carrier I suppose
<RandomJeb>
companies here are going the other direction, no extra fees for calling/texting/data to or in the rest of europe and other select nations
<GlassYuri>
motherfucker I just passed a chinese captcha
<GlassYuri>
G-Mobile, is it disconnected from the US, and if yes, geographically?
<G-Mobile>
;wa speed of sound
<kmath>
G-Mobile: speed of sound: 340.27 m/s (meters per second)0.34027 km/s (kilometers per second)1225 km/h (kilometers per hour)761.16 mph (miles per hour)
<G-Mobile>
GlassYuri: west nebraska is, according to high level covert representitives of the secret government, a fictional nation located in the northern central united states
<G-Mobile>
;wa 40ft / 761mph
<kmath>
G-Mobile: (40 feet)/(761 mph (miles per hour)): 9.955×10^-6 hours
<GlassYuri>
despite setting the country to japan the phone number input still has the international prefix for mainland china selected
<G-Mobile>
;wa 1e7 hours to seconds
<kmath>
G-Mobile: convert 1×10^7 hours to seconds: 3.6×10^10 seconds
<G-Mobile>
;wa 1e-7 hours to seconds
<kmath>
G-Mobile: convert 1×10^(-7) hours to seconds: 3.6×10^-4 seconds
<GlassYuri>
is it even possible to have a landline from another country
<G-Mobile>
internet
<darklight>
Apart from the under the sea internet cables?
<G-Mobile>
i can probably buy a landline phone number in the UK via skype
<darklight>
Except skype is aweful
<darklight>
There are plenty of SIP providers though
<SilverFox>
same
<G-Mobile>
I said I could not I would
<G-Mobile>
I refuse to have skype on my systems
<darklight>
I mean there's a good chance that it *won't* work
<darklight>
Because skype
<G-Mobile>
it doesn't need to work, but it will let me buy it
<G-Mobile>
it's a feature they advertise
<GlassYuri>
why do I have to enter my phone number again if they required it for signup and alipay even refuses to call me by anything but that fucking number
<G-Mobile>
phone tree problem
<GlassYuri>
did my m key just fail
<GlassYuri>
no
<GlassYuri>
so why did I had to copy an m right now that I couldn't type
<darklight>
Length restrictions?
<G-Mobile>
every time you get forwarded the place you land doesn't know who you are
<darklight>
Client side? :P
<GlassYuri>
darklight, I could add a space and type numbers so unlikely to be length
<GlassYuri>
now that I have set a shipping address the eternal load circle is gone
<GlassYuri>
and I can select if I want to use a forwarding service or contact the shipper and ask if they ship directly
<GlassYuri>
pretty nice
<G-Mobile>
this site is stealing your identity so many times
<G-Mobile>
you're going to wake up today to realize that you don't even have your identity anymore
<G-Mobile>
your identity hasn't been freebooted, it's properly thefted
<darklight>
G-Mobile: It's not theft, they send it to the chinese and make copies
<darklight>
:P
<RandomJeb>
you wouldn't download a car
<GlassYuri>
G-Mobile, so suspicious that they need my address for payment and shipping
<GlassYuri>
SilverFox, seems that the sewol disaster was this day two years ago
<SilverFox>
sewol?
<GlassYuri>
ferry disaster
<darklight>
304 people
<SilverFox>
oh
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<xShadowx>
geez whats with people trying to start up drama today
<darklight>
xShadowx: Who?
<xShadowx>
full moon out today?
<xShadowx>
darklight: multiple unlinked people
<xShadowx>
3 discord servers for games i play, i open tab, see full of drama (which never seen drama in em before), guy at work is in middle of drama
<xShadowx>
heard peole outside screamin atleast once
<darklight>
What type of drama?
<GlassYuri>
fuck I'm gonna go to bed
<xShadowx>
well the one outside i would label as demostic
<xShadowx>
domestic*
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<xShadowx>
the work one is guy arguing with coworker
<xShadowx>
lets see what the ones on discord were
<darklight>
The chain was too long? :P
<darklight>
And fair enough
<darklight>
Cow orkers can be annoying I guess
<xShadowx>
the work one "WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO SABOTAGE ME YOU SICK ASSHOLE"
<xShadowx>
o.O
<xShadowx>
its climbing -.-
<xShadowx>
i need to buy a bottle of yellow colored sugar pills, this would be a great case to walk up and "any of you want some yellow happy pills?"
<darklight>
Maybe they need some more friendship in their lives :P
<xShadowx>
lolz @ shes flippin out
<xShadowx>
oh shit "YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO LEAVE THAT SKANK"
<xShadowx>
so uhm appearently the work one is domestic too
<xShadowx>
ah now security comes :P
<darklight>
Err
<darklight>
Was it a chick that said skank?
<xShadowx>
yeeeep
<darklight>
I just had trouble imagining it was a guy for a sec there and got confused :P
<xShadowx>
i cant hear the dude shes screamin at
<xShadowx>
welp......she isnt his wife, so im thinkin 'skank' was her refering to his wife
<xShadowx>
security escorting her out now XD
<darklight>
I think he is forgetting "bitches be crazy" :P
<xShadowx>
"YOUR WIFE IS A SKANK AND YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE"
<xShadowx>
O.O
<xShadowx>
gotta be a full moon
* xShadowx
checks google
<darklight>
I can see why someone that crazy is single
<xShadowx>
full moon just ended
<xShadowx>
this is a couple days late
<xShadowx>
odd
<xShadowx>
powerful that moon is
<darklight>
Maybe the stars aided in the crazy's escape
<darklight>
:P
<xShadowx>
its accually true full moon has more crime - but i dunno if its just the light, or crazy effect though
<xShadowx>
i can see an rgument for both
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<SilverFox>
>MOAB has 15 year shelf life >20 produced in '03. Expire n '18 >Trump has 1 year to use them all
<GlsFrg|phone>
SilverFox: does noko have over 19 nuclear launch sites?
<SilverFox>
idk maybe
<SilverFox>
go ask tiny-dick on that
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<xShadowx>
LOL @ tv "we're in a mental recession and turning into a nation of whiners"
<xShadowx>
that needs to go in a sig
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<SilverFox>
!tell Majiir apparently that airy voice you hate in kdrama soundtracks is a rather popular thing. All the popular dramas currently running have them
<Qboid>
SilverFox: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<SilverFox>
;wa 10,000,000원 to CAD
<kmath>
SilverFox: convert ₩10 million (Korean won) to Canadian dollars: C$11720 (Canadian dollars)
<SilverFox>
what a shitty reward for a serial kidnapper and killer
<SilverFox>
especially one that bugged police headquarters for weeks, escaped investigation not once, but twice, then attempted murder after causing an entire corporate building to evacuate