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kmath >
YouTube - Boeing's Starliner Launch to the International Space Station
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Althego >
in a few hours
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Mat2ch >
Althego: interesting
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Mat2ch >
I thought they weren't that far in the process
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Althego >
because of the spacex explosion they are now head to head for the first humans to the iss
08:57
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Mat2ch >
not really
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Mat2ch >
but almost
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Mat2ch >
I wonder when the inflight abort test is
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Mat2ch >
also for Boeing everything has to work today
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Mat2ch >
and tomorrow
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Althego >
i think nasa did not ask for an in flight abort test
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Althego >
spacex did it anyway
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Mat2ch >
well, I'd rather fly in a capsule that has proven its abort capability
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Mat2ch >
although launches got pretty safe lately
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Mat2ch >
I watched the video about Starship not having an abort mechanism yesterday. Well, we got pretty safe airplanes now. But they don't have a rocket pushing them through max-q...
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Althego >
it doesnt have a separate abort mechanism. but it has its main engines
09:37
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Mat2ch >
the question is if they're powerful enough to propell the ship fast enough away from the exploding booster...
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Althego >
according to elon, even if the booster is disintegrating, it cant do a fast explosion because the fuel and oxidizer is not mixed
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Mat2ch >
but what when the engines on starship fail?
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Althego >
still, i wouldnt want to be there when i explodes :)
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Mat2ch >
or the tank breaks apart?
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Mat2ch >
the top can't just break off and fall down on a parachute...
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Mat2ch >
I mean, I'm all in for landing Crew Dragon under power
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Mat2ch >
but it has a backup system...
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Althego >
that is a different thing
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Mat2ch >
how and why? Both systems are falling from the sky...
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Althego >
the abort mechanism is to take the crew away from the faulty booster
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Althego >
having some kind of recovery for the crew part
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Althego >
that is different
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Althego >
for the soyuz that is the reentry part. but there is no such thing for the starship
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Althego >
they didnt even mention it
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Mat2ch >
my ssto space plane is another masterpiece
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Mat2ch >
is there a way to automatically restart the drills when power ran out?
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Mat2ch >
it's annoying
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Mat2ch >
I have to drill for weeks and I don't want to have to restart them all the time
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Althego >
simple, turn on maximum time warp and power never runs out
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Mat2ch >
uh, five minutes
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Althego >
which is kind of cheating, but that is what the game usually does
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Mat2ch >
well, flying to a distant planet and refilling by mining ore is a bit cheaty, too ;)
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Mat2ch >
I wonder why the drills have to stop
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Mat2ch >
and turned back on
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Althego >
unless it is metallic hydrogen :)
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Mat2ch >
and the resource converter doesn't
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Mat2ch >
But where do you get the oxygene from?
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kmath >
YouTube - NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV
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Mat2ch >
ok, 1 hour until launch
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Althego >
had to refresh it lol
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Mat2ch >
well, if the launch takes really 50 minutes I can take a shower in the meantime ;P
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Mat2ch >
.oO( yeah, I'm on holiday already. :P )
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Althego >
you can even have a nap :)
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Mat2ch >
A nap in the shower doesn't sound safe. ;)
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Althego >
not at the same time
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Fluburtur >
more batteries
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Althego >
more timewarp
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Althego >
btw the boeing capsule is already a failure, sending one person up with it is more expensive than a soyuz seat
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Mat2ch >
Althego: it is?
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Mat2ch >
What about Crew Dragon?
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Althego >
i am not sure
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Mat2ch >
Fluburtur: more batteries means more weight which means less performance
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Althego >
probably cheaper, but by not much, because they want to milk it
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Mat2ch >
which will drag me down in the add more fuel and power spiral...
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Mat2ch >
well, they can at least milk it...
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Mat2ch >
So, no onboard cams?
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Mat2ch >
and why are there so many people watching and working? If you see the SpaceX facilities, they mostly look empty...
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Althego >
theres hould be
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Althego >
there is a test dummy and a floatyng snoopy
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Mat2ch >
also everything in imperial units. Wow, such future, so modern
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packbart >
"orbital insertion delayed" - soooo, it's coming back down?
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packbart >
Everyday Astronaut also thinks it's coming back down. Let's see what the official euphemism is
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packbart >
KSP is still the go-to simulation software for Space Yotubers
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FLHerne >
Even I know that's not how that works
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Eclipser >
they haven't played enough ksp
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packbart >
so either it's coming back down or it's in orbit but with the wrong inclination and phase to get to the ISS
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packbart >
Boeing clicks "Revert to launch"
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packbart >
official press conference now. let's see where it's at
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Althego >
oh the same
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Fluburtur >
I just came back from eating, just in time for the launch
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Althego >
what launch
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Eddi|zuHause >
better than coming back from eating, just in time for lunch
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Althego >
anyway the launch is so much over that there was a debrief of the failure too
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packbart >
don't call it a failure. it was an off-nominal success
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packbart >
just some issue with the "Mission Chronometer Augmentation System"
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UmbralRaptop >
lolsob
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Fluburtur >
of course scott was going to make a video on that but it will be more interesting than planned
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Flayer >
oh wow, china is planning on getting a sample from the moon next year
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i really hope the west will include them for lunar base stuff
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darsie >
Does China want to be included?
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Althego >
actually nasa is not allowed to cooperate with the chinese. i guess it i the same on the other side too
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darsie >
Will China convert to pseudodemocracy to be included? Will China honor human rights? Will USA honor human rights?
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Althego >
they are not going to start with that in a few days
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darsie >
We need an alien invasion to unite.
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Flayer >
we should just work together as much as possible and let each other alone otherwise
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Eddi|zuHause >
so, they ran out of dV? that happens to me all the time
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Flayer >
i'm going to have like 200 dv left at a 3600 km orbit
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Althego >
that is overengineered :)
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Flayer >
im putting a bigger lifter underneath it otherwise i can't get back
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Flayer >
i like how getting to the mun is easier than an orbit around kerbin lower than the mun
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Flayer >
(orbit around the mun)
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raptop >
Is this an Oberth thing?
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Flayer >
it may just be incompetence
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LushPineapple29 >
i like saying random things just to make sure someone is there so.
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LushPineapple29 >
test.
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* raptop
gives LushPineapple29 a D+
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LushPineapple29 >
huh.
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raptop >
(Perhaps the test shouldn't have involved so many Jackson problems)
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LushPineapple29 >
vibe check
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raptop >
vibe slovak
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raptop >
Anyway, thoughts on the new SRBs?
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LushPineapple29 >
If your talking to me, not much.
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LushPineapple29 >
I think the SRBs are cool.
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LushPineapple29 >
and thats really all.
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* raptop
was surprised that the larger ones can carry (tiny) payloads to kerbin escape
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LushPineapple29 >
huh.
21:33
* raptop
has sadly had limited time and interest in KSP lately. blame grad school and/or burnout after playing on and off since, er, 2011
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LushPineapple29 >
this is just my opinion, school is just a place where they eat up your free time and then you just sit in a chair and do work.
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LushPineapple29 >
depending on how much homework you have, you can have 3 hours of free time
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kubi >
depends on how do you spen the time in school
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<
kubi >
growing like a cabbage or try to squeeze something in
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LushPineapple29 >
huh.
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raptop >
Anyway, research can be fun. If, uh, occasionally involving scary amounts of responsibility
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raptop >
(You want me to operate a telescope that costs 3-4 decades of my current salary?)
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LushPineapple29 >
i built this weird tiny lander in ksp minutes ago.
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raptop >
weird in what way?
21:48
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LushPineapple29 >
weird in design
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raptop >
Landing on Mk55s, or something?
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LushPineapple29 >
i'm terrible at communication and new to ksp, i need you to describe that.
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raptop >
Uh, probably it would be easiest if you posted pics
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LushPineapple29 >
huh
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LushPineapple29 >
i will
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raptop >
solar panel blast shield!
22:01
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raptop >
(or something)
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raptop >
How is it on ΔV and instruments?
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LushPineapple29 >
back.
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LushPineapple29 >
alright so
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LushPineapple29 >
thats just the lander itself
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LushPineapple29 >
it can burn for 31 seconds
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raptop >
Seems a bit limited, but not sure what that amounts to in m/s
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LushPineapple29 >
1022m/s
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LushPineapple29 >
this is a small lander for a mun
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raptop >
Yeah, should be plenty for LMO to surface
22:24
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LushPineapple29 >
yeah
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LushPineapple29 >
maybe there could be some left to get back into orbit?
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LushPineapple29 >
but mun orbit
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LushPineapple29 >
its impossible to get itself back into kerbin orbit
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LushPineapple29 >
imma create a little test of setting the lander into muns orbit with hyperedit and then land, and then try to get into mun orbit
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raptop >
Probably just barely short for getting back into orbit
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raptop >
(ignoring rotation and altitude, a circular orbit around the moon would be ~570 m/s)
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LushPineapple29 >
i just realized
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<
LushPineapple29 >
it can barely hold itself up
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LushPineapple29 >
alright im conducting the test
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LushPineapple29 >
i landed on the mun with 6.47 Oxidizer left and 5.30 Liquid fuel left
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LushPineapple29 >
im going to try to head back into orbit
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LushPineapple29 >
and im out of fuel
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LushPineapple29 >
that was a weird test
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LushPineapple29 >
but it worked
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raptop >
huh, what's your final ap/pe?
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LushPineapple29 >
i reverted to the vab but if your talking about the max height i got around 55,110
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LushPineapple29 >
i wasn't paying attention and did full throttle
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LushPineapple29 >
huh
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LushPineapple29 >
i've sent rovers to duna before but i really never payed attention to the mun
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LushPineapple29 >
i've also done one way trips to duna
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<
LushPineapple29 >
which literally means sending kerbals to duna with no way back home
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LushPineapple29 >
thats also what i like calling banishing kerbals
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raptop >
I guess that's one way to keep Jeb from sneaking into test craft
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LushPineapple29 >
i have a save with around 20 kerbals stuck on duna
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LushPineapple29 >
alll they have is a rover with a seat on it
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raptop >
Good thing kerbals don't need food. Or water. Or more air than a single large helmet can supply
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LushPineapple29 >
yeah
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LushPineapple29 >
Jeb has been stuck in a metal can for around 3 years now
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<
LushPineapple29 >
by himself
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<
LushPineapple29 >
on a giant red planet
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LushPineapple29 >
alone
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LushPineapple29 >
with his radio connection with home cut
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LushPineapple29 >
huh
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LushPineapple29 >
where should i launch a rocket to
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Flayer >
i'm going to minmus next. one trip, ~3000 science if things go as planned
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raptop >
Eve skydiving?
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<
raptop >
...extreme skydiving. Kerbal disembarks on Gilly, attempts to splashdown in the explodium sea
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<
LushPineapple29 >
huh
23:02
<
LushPineapple29 >
that works well
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LushPineapple29 >
Imma try it :D
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LushPineapple29 >
im in eve orbit and about to skydive :D
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LushPineapple29 >
jeb is now skydiving
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LushPineapple29 >
i turned on Ignore Max Tempature
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LushPineapple29 >
so he's gonna not be cooked alive
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