Deddly changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.12.1 bit.ly/ksp112update | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | "Beardy Branson" shoots himself into space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTpWYWIfP7Y
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<Eddi|zuHause> i probably should have brought landing legs to the mun
<raptop> Mün, Minmus flats, close enough
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<Mat2ch> Soooo, SpaceX really wants to do a static fire test with Booster 3?
<Althego> why not
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<Mat2ch> Althego: I wonder why they do it. To get test data? Test the structure?
<Mat2ch> They are not going to attach all engines to it
<Mat2ch> at least I think so
<Mat2ch> Fluburtur: I hope they told you that you will reach full 5 G reception in two weeks. ;)
<Rolf> its unlimited data too
<Althego> unlimited power!
<Rolf> its over 9000tb!!!!!!!!
<Althego> eu approves chatcontrol. what a mess. and we cant talk about it here.
<darsie> What could you possibly transmit to transfer 9000 TB? 5 D video (see, hear, feel, smell, taste)?
<darsie> Neuralink?
<bees> raw sensor data
<darsie> A buy (web)server?
<darsie> busy*
<darsie> Uncompressed video
<Althego> actually humans collect most information by vision. overwhelmingly. and most of that is black and white data. so even if you add other channels, it wouldnt amount to much
<darsie> Has there been smell cinema?
<darsie> Can't be so hard to put some ducts under the seats, preload them with fresh scent and open sliders at the appropriate time.
<Althego> would get to you slowly
<Althego> maybe if there was some pipe up to your nose
<darsie> Can be pretty fast, with a permanent up draft.
<darsie> Or maybe 2-3 smell lines.
<darsie> gtg, bbl
<Mat2ch> Althego: One sentence: Probably get's disallowed by the ECJ
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<Fluburtur> yeah but I already feel it beginning to get better
<Mat2ch> Good for you. Will get my second shot in five weeks.
<Althego> for me in about two weeks
<Mat2ch> But it's Biontech, which means no 5G for me, since it's a German thing and we don't get good internet connection anywhere.
<Althego> hehe
<Althego> the best (then 3g) connection i got in germany was always inside military bases :)
<Althego> hotels usually had wifi and 3g problems too
<bees> Mat2ch: you will have a voice whispering random german words at you
<bees> weighted towards long ones
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<Mat2ch> bees: oh, that's ok, I hope they're able to silence the other voices in my head :P
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<minas_tirith> bees, bzzt bzzt
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<Eddi|zuHause> Althego: well... the sad thing is the broadband fibre coverage is worse than the 5g coverage :p
<Althego> hehe
<Althego> starlink to the rescue
<Althego> supposedly the net in austria is expensive and slow too. at least a certain bird says so
<Eddi|zuHause> there was a thing 30-ish years ago where the government/corruption/whatever decided that copper was the way to go
<Althego> lol
<Eddi|zuHause> and now they're stacking hacks upon hacks to keep that "last mile" copper thing alive... "vectoring" and stuff
<Eddi|zuHause> which means it'll be the same in 20-30 years from now. nobody is going to fix the problem
<Althego> must be like how roads are kept operational here
<Eddi|zuHause> let's not talk about roads... or i'll have to explain the word "betonkrebs"...
<Eddi|zuHause> aanyway... this is basically the reason why you can get the same internet connection speed in romania for like 1/5 the price
<umaxtu> brb, moving to Romania
<Althego> hehe
<umaxtu> to be fair, I have gigabit fiber for < $100 a month, but I can't use my own router
<Eddi|zuHause> i'm having a different problem though... i forgot to put a heat shield on my mun return vessel
<umaxtu> oops
<Althego> hehe
<Althego> just do many passes
<Eddi|zuHause> tried that... still exploded
<Eddi|zuHause> i have a kerbin PE of 45km, which worked fine for reducing the AP, but on the pass where the AP went <70km, it exploded
<Althego> strange. 100% heating?
<bees> save whatever dv remaining for final pass
<bees> and make it steeper
<Althego> because at point it is like coming back from low orbit, and you dont need a heat shield for that
<bees> you got hit by accumulated heat in high atmo
<Eddi|zuHause> i have 600m/s remaining
<bees> by going too shallow
<Eddi|zuHause> right
<Althego> faster slow down helps. so maybe 20 km periapsis?
<Althego> and use up the remaiing delta v
<bees> 600 m/s would be a giant overkill, tbh
<Eddi|zuHause> i had 30km before, there it exploded much earlier
<Althego> hehe
<bees> ~200 is usually enough if you dont have 1200k parts exposed
<Althego> yes, most of the slow done can be done by the atmosphere
<Althego> usually capsules explode for me if they flip in the wrong direction
<Althego> and then there is an overheating cascade
<Eddi|zuHause> i put the engine in front
<Eddi|zuHause> it's a terrier engine
<bees> so use majority of your dv to slow down from moon (to save time), do passes at 45km until ~120k AP, then drop to 20km PE and use remaining dv in atmo when you start to overheat
<bees> i assume you reentry engine first
<Eddi|zuHause> the first pass lowers AP to around 4.5Mm, which takes around 4h roundtrip
<bees> i mean save real time
<Eddi|zuHause> i have plenty of that :p
<Eddi|zuHause> hm... according to https://op.europa.eu/webpub/eca/special-reports/broadband-12-2018/img/En_annex01.png france and greece are worse than germany
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<Eddi|zuHause> what exactly is pulled pork anyway?
<Althego> that ius the only actual food that exist from that diagram
<Eddi|zuHause> yes
<Eddi|zuHause> but what is it?
<Althego> meat from pig that looks like it was shred to small pieces
<Eddi|zuHause> so it would mean Mett :)
<Eddi|zuHause> no.. that doesn't look anything like Mett
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<Althego> hehe bird cant stream because of charging problem on the capture phine
<raptop> SnoopJ: oh no
<SnoopJ> chaotic pork?
<raptop> chaotic pork is when a lorenz butterfly flaps over your plots
<Eddi|zuHause> chaotic good pork?
<Althego> hehe
<Eddi|zuHause> you know what's annoying? when watering, and the craft wobbles up and down in the water, you can't press the "recover" button because it's moving too fast
<Eddi|zuHause> now... i got 690 science from the mun landing
<Althego> hehe i was wondering what watering would mean in the context of rockets :)
<Eddi|zuHause> it's like landing. but in the water.
<Althego> yes, but watering is what you do to plants
<Eddi|zuHause> it's not like you put water on the rocket and it grows :p
<Althego> anyway, yes, annyoing
<Eddi|zuHause> now... the usual decision paralysis... what do i research?
* raptop is pretty sure that's how rocket gardens work
<Althego> i know of atomic gardening, but not rocket gardening
<Althego> so, first bezos, then nauka. somehow they have to connect the new module
<Althego> hopefully both go to space next week
<umaxtu> I thought Bezos was the 30th
<Althego> i see 20th
<umaxtu> I guess I was mistaken
<umaxtu> so Branson had Colbert on his webcast, who do you think Bozos is going to have?
<Althego> hopefully nobody
<umaxtu> Colbert is a ULA shill anyway :D
<raptop> Obviously Colbert should interview Tory
<umaxtu> could be interesting
<Althego> no, elon should interview tory :)
<raptop> Nah, Shotwell
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<Eddi|zuHause> when i put rover wheels on a thing... can i somehow change which direction is forward?
<Eddi|zuHause> because the steering is all wrong
<Eddi|zuHause> i have an OKTO as probe core, but i don't want to rotate it
<Althego> some items have an option in the right click menu
<Eddi|zuHause> "Control Point: Forward"?
<Althego> that
<Eddi|zuHause> so... forward/backward works, but left/right is all wrong. and navball is 90° rotated... shows heading north when i'm driving west
<packbart> stick a small docking port on its nose
<darsie> picoport ftw
<darsie> 5 kg
<Eddi|zuHause> ok, now left/right works, but forward is backward :p
<Eddi|zuHause> and i have not enough solar panels
<Eddi|zuHause> now i have sort of an automated rover. but no launch vehicle to get it to the mun
<Althego> kikkerikii
<Althego> haha it was a cable problem
<Althego> but now it is going to overlap with ame
<raptop> Did a cat chew on the cable?
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<Althego> hehe fresh bread eating. what a content
<Althego> + cat purring
<raptop> caaaat
<Althego> finally, i found it, the written data count is incremented for every 32 megabytes. smartctl in buster doesnt know about the discontinued intel dc s4500 and s4600.
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* darsie built a fast car to get some surface samples and EVA reports: https://i.postimg.cc/vG9BWpvZ/screenshot146.png
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<darsie> The olivine formation was to far below the base plane of the arm, but with the RW I could tilt it :) https://i.postimg.cc/Xn69RMxT/screenshot155.png
* raptop has no idea if the olivine is stock or a mod
<raptop> Althego: consider: cirno and gura are the same person
<Althego> hmm
<Althego> blue
<raptop> smol
<Althego> but the teeth
<raptop> no thoughts, head empty
<Althego> cant listen to scott over two streams
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<darsie> I broke my arm :(.
<darsie> going 50 m/s.
<darsie> raptop: stock
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* darsie roved like 80 km.
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<raptop> whee
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<Solar_Oracle> Everybody dead? I mean alive.
<darsie> .
<Solar_Oracle> More corpses to convert into kethane!
* raptop skitters away
<Solar_Oracle> I think I'll do a whole bunch of chapter updates tonight so I can transition to a new program.
<Solar_Oracle> One which will secure my rightful place as . . . Something other than that one person that reads terrible books.
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<raptop> "If you want to get good at speedrunning, get good at spreadsheets"
<Solar_Oracle> Speedrunning for what, EVE Online?
<raptop> Heh
<raptop> Surprisingly enough Doom Eternal
<Solar_Oracle> I'm sure there's some material for a peer reviewed paper right there.
<Solar_Oracle> "Speedrunning through Doom Eternal with the help of neural-networks: An analysis"
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<Solar_Oracle> "Discussion: Git gud, scrub."
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<umaxtu> I mean, as far as I can tell, Doom Eternal is a technical marvel in terms of optimization
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<Solar_Oracle> Oh, remember those grav rifles with the relativistic projectiles? They have pistol versions, too.
<raptop> Like a certain xeelee weapon?
<Solar_Oracle> Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, they can't make stars go nova.
<Solar_Oracle> Xeelee pistol op plz nerf.
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<Solar_Oracle> And another chapter up.
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<minas_tirith> Solar_Oracle
<Solar_Oracle> DO YOU WISH TO CONSULT THE ORACLE?
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<Solar_Oracle> Guess not, then.
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