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<Solar_Oracle>
If space is the final frontier, what was the first frontier?
<TwistenX>
Earth
<Solar_Oracle>
What if you're not a human, huh?
<darsie>
The big bang.
<Solar_Oracle>
The Planck Epoch, the FIRST frontier.
<raptop>
< Solar_Oracle> What if you're not a human, huh?
<raptop>
It's the first frontier for the corvids also
<Solar_Oracle>
These are the voyages of the unified fundamental forces. It's mission: The boldly go where space-time has never gone before.
<Solar_Oracle>
Now if I remember my history correctly, this is also when the Ctan star vampyres first formed.
<raptop>
It's probably fine
<raptop>
They mostly killed eachother and/or were killed by the necronyyr, right?
<Solar_Oracle>
Though, on second thought, I keep confusing my Warhammer 40,000 rulebooks for history books.
<Solar_Oracle>
I think the Necrons betrayed them in the new canon. Or was that also true in the old?
<TwistenX>
< Solar_Oracle > What if you're not human, huh?
<TwistenX>
Who says that other beings don't think our planet is the first place to go?
<Solar_Oracle>
Space Tomb Kings are better, anyway.
<Solar_Oracle>
Hey now, Star Wars doesn't even have an Earth.
<TwistenX>
How do you know? It's still a universe. They never said a different universe, only a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
<Solar_Oracle>
Obviously humans are the real aliens.
<raptop>
star wars physics is, uh, don't think too hard about it
<Solar_Oracle>
Star Trek physics is easy: Just reverse the polarity.
<TwistenX>
Atmospheric Pressure and Heat in Star Wars be like; ...
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<raptop>
Space battles work like old films of WW2 air battles for Reasons
<raptop>
...which suggests that a truely subversive sequel trilogy would make things look more like air (and/or naval) combat with 1960s-80s tech
<Solar_Oracle>
I think we all know technology doesn't advance in Star Wars. They hit a brick wall thousands of years ago.
<Solar_Oracle>
BattleTech and Elite are among the very few sci-fi franchises I can think of with any real advancements, albeit with the former getting everyone blasted back a hundred years after some mutual thermonuclear exchanges.
<raptop>
There's also weird stuff going on from that backwards look (like how there were no helicopter gunships at hoth or endor, but were at geonisis, etc)
<Solar_Oracle>
Ehhhh the transport-gunship thing never worked out in real life, either, with the Mi-24s only sparingly carrying crew.
<Solar_Oracle>
They got space Higgins boats in The Force Awakens and TIE Fighter escorts.
<TwistenX>
I bet at some point Elon Musk is going to try to invent a real-life lightsaber.
<Solar_Oracle>
And Rogue One had a transport pressed into a gunship role like the original orbiting gunships of the Vietnam War.
<Solar_Oracle>
BattleTech's, uh, tech advances significantly enough it becomes a problem in some of the video game adaptations.
<Solar_Oracle>
Like in MechWarrior 4 and Online, there's simply no reason to use anything other than ClanTech and FedCom Civil War era tech unless you can't afford it.
<Solar_Oracle>
Especially when you get those sweet, sweet double heat sinks.
* raptop
isn't sure of a situation where you'd ever want to use single heat sinks with clan tech
<TwistenX>
We should make a Death Star and gun down all the potentially dangerous Near-Earth objects.
<Solar_Oracle>
When your 'Mech is deep within Inner Sphere territory and you just suffered a critical that resulted in the loss of your heat sinks?
<Solar_Oracle>
Though if you are using ClanTech, you're probably a dirty Clanner anyway and should be vaporized.
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<Solar_Oracle>
I had family in Rasalhague!
<TwistenX>
Sucks to be you then
<Solar_Oracle>
Iknowrite.
<Solar_Oracle>
Stupid Mary Sue Clans.
<raptop>
huh, that's a weird star system
<TwistenX>
BTW what game are you guys talking about
<raptop>
A5III + K6V in a highly eccentric orbit
<raptop>
BattleTech / the various MechWarrior games
<Solar_Oracle>
BattleTech is bestest Tech
<TwistenX>
oh
<raptop>
To be fair, I'd make a lousy clanner. Too much wanting to use all that fancy range instead of charging in...
<TwistenX>
It's always confused me on how Star Wars ships can just move forwards before going upwards when launching from a planet/moon.
<Solar_Oracle>
@raptop You could always just become an Elemental and use THE CLAW
<raptop>
stabbity?
<raptop>
stabbity!
<Solar_Oracle>
Can't find it, but there used to be an image of Clan Elementals ripping armor off a 'Mech.
<Solar_Oracle>
So here's Elementals riding a Nova Cat instead. I'm assuming it overheated and shut down after this image was taken https://imgur.com/sQ2KvQQ
<raptop>
hah
<Solar_Oracle>
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
<raptop>
The tabletop game started in the mid 1980s
<Solar_Oracle>
Started in 1984 and surprisingly still existing.
<Solar_Oracle>
The development of the titular 2018 turn-based video game was even led by one of the original creators of the franchise, Jordan Weisman.
<packbart>
heh, Scott Manley, astronaut killer. "Every time I saw a way to save everyone, I made a suggestion on how to avoid it"
<Solar_Oracle>
Just like Commander Shepard, you can't save everyone.
<raptop>
packbart: hah, so the inverse of the sorts of consulting that was done for The Martian?
<packbart>
well, they probably could have saved everyone if they did have redundant life support systems
<Solar_Oracle>
Or could repair them Apollo 13 style.
<Solar_Oracle>
I mean, the ship that docked with the Cycler would surely have some of its own contingencies.
<Solar_Oracle>
I should really get into this Stellaris game.
<Solar_Oracle>
But now I'm stuck thinking about moar BattleTech
<raptop>
oops
<Solar_Oracle>
I'm going to turn the whole ironman game into a gigantic AAR, complete with movie posters.
<Solar_Oracle>
The real twist being that all civilizations, including the one I'm using, are randomly generated.
<darsie>
I'm supposed to bring a Mun stone back to Kerbin, and I found a real one which I don't just walk through, but I'm not sure if taking a surface sample will do the trick: https://i.postimg.cc/y1ywcKGK/screenshot503.png
<Althego>
somehow i always forget about event horizon until the weekened
<Althego>
about current space race
<Althego>
what the what is this? win updated yesterday before i went to bed. and i notice some weather - news app thingie on the taskabr. in fahrenheit
<Althego>
cant even change it
<Althego>
cant remove it
<Althego>
iu never asked for this
<XXCoder>
biden just approved everything nasa asked
<XXCoder>
akt thats why i stopped using windows few years ago
<Althego>
hah managed to hide it
<Althego>
but cant change the temperature readout
<packbart>
Althego: you can remove it. right-clickt on the taskbar, "news and interests" -> "turn off"
<Althego>
yes i found that
<packbart>
I got that, too
<Althego>
but one would thing it is in its settings or the right click menu changes to its specific settings
<packbart>
mine was showing in °C
<XXCoder>
usually microsoft is good on global but F thing is weird
<Althego>
i even change the location in it, still was in f
<packbart>
yeah, I was looking at taskbar settings at first
<Althego>
and supposedly there will be some windows announcement from ms
<Althego>
i sure hope not some kind of enforced subscription, because then i am out
<Althego>
yes, i found flat earth content
<Solar_Oracle>
TEACH THE CONTROVERSY
<Althego>
that is creationism
<Althego>
but before i get to flat earth there is still 2.5 / 2 hours of kiara left from yesterday
<Solar_Oracle>
More recently, I've also seen full out germ theory denial.
<umaxtu>
I'm not happy with microsoft at the moment, I had to reload windows last night to get windows update to work again
<Althego>
i feel we are always just right next to the crumble of civilizatin
<Solar_Oracle>
To the extent that they denied that any disease has ever been transmitted from one person to another, which is a concept that precedes germ theory itself.
<Althego>
because simply selling tickets for it wasnt goodenough
<darsie>
How much is shipping to Austria?
<darsie>
The winning bidder will fly to space on New Shepard’s first human flight on July 20th and will join Blue Origin founder, Jeff Bezos, and his brother Mark.
<darsie>
The bid is on a space flight, too.
<Althego>
at least they go up to 100 km
<Althego>
heh starts at 4-8 million dollars
<Althego>
4.8
<Althego>
for a suborbital
<Althego>
highly overpriced
<packbart>
wait until they find oil on Mars. funding expeditions will become easy ;)
<Althego>
lol
<Althego>
i doubt there is oil on mars
<Althego>
but if they find chinese on mars, there will be no need for funding, it is just going to happen :)
<Althego>
15 million. if they go up to 55 they cvould have just chosen spacex
<Althego>
28 at the moment
<Althego>
sold
<Althego>
if you have that amount of money, you can just choose spacex
<darsie>
and orbit
<Althego>
exactly
<Althego>
days in orbit
<darsie>
Is there a toilet in DRagon?
<darsie>
I don't think so.
<darsie>
The Apollo astronauts didn't enjoy pooping in bags and kneading in the sterilizing agent.
<darsie>
Fasting for a few days is an option.
<Althego>
there is
<Althego>
on the roof
<darsie>
ahh
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<Althego>
i sure hope it doesnt open in case of a botched landing :)
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<darsie>
:)
<darsie>
That's probably the least of your worries, though.
<darsie>
Hmm, maybe 2 chutes failing and you come down hard without an angle ...
<darsie>
But the chutes attach all to the same point, I think.
<Althego>
hehe that reminds me of a joke. old farmer goes on an airplane ride. the pilot does all kinds of acrobatic maneuvers. the old guy just says a few word during the flight. i thought so. i thought so. i didnt think that. after they land the pilot asks what these were. i though i was going to wet myself, i thought i was going to crap in my pants, but i didnt think all of that would fall onto my head
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<JVFoxy>
Althego I think someone wasn't piloting properly if it ended up on his head. Musta been pulling some negatives there
<Althego>
yes i was thinking about that too
<JVFoxy>
also.. kind of plane matters, open cockpit might have been better. let it fall on someone else instead of your own face
<Althego>
it is just a joke
<JVFoxy>
oh, I know
<JVFoxy>
besides, who'd use a toilet as an airplane seat anyways?:P
<darsie>
Hmm, idk if I tried aerobatics in the Cessna 172 in flightgear.
* raptop
suspects that the joke is from the 1920s, and implies barnstorming in a biplane
<JVFoxy>
in air cadets, took a flight in a Cessna. They pulled a bit of a nose dive stunt suddenly to startle the one student. Thinking back now, probably not the wisest of moves
<Althego>
at least from the 70s, or may be older
<raptop>
Anyway, WW1 is now closer to the Napoleonic wars than the present
<packbart>
"no new content in decades!1"
<JVFoxy>
uh.. what was that saying? 'War doesn't change...'
<JVFoxy>
not exactly sure on how 'true' that is
<Althego>
war never changes?
<raptop>
[Fallout Narrator Voice] "War. War never changes."
<LunchBot>
raptop: M is for Mission; that's good enough for you. Wernher von Kerman chases you out of the R&D complex with a broom.
<raptop>
Ah, the Kerbin edition of Seasame Street
<Althego>
must be a rocket powered broom
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<JVFoxy>
lol
<JVFoxy>
hey, at least it wasn't a rocket powered chainsaw
<Althego>
kerbals had rockets before they had wheels. so obviously the broom came later too
<JVFoxy>
world where they were taught rockets first before anything else...ya, its going to cause something of a mess with the tech tree
<JVFoxy>
though... they learned to float in 0g before they were taught to walk I wonder
<raptop>
Maybe kerbals aren't native to kerbin?
<Althego>
that is a possibility
<Althego>
there is nothing on the planet
<raptop>
kerbals are spores, and the space center is a fruiting body
<JVFoxy>
from what I take from the creator's original idea, its whatever you want it to be.
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<Guest23539>
sneed
<a_flayer>
chuck
<sandbox>
why has this become a thing all of a sudden?
<sandbox>
don't explain the joke
<a_flayer>
honk honk
<Guest23539>
The joke is that the place is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed" which is clever in itself and quite funny to those with a mature sense of humour but what's really just hilarious about it is that if you look closely at the front of this store, Sneed's Feed & Seed, you can see a line that reads "Formerly Chuck's". Now, this might go over the average viewe
<Guest23539>
r's head as this, THIS, is peak comedy. I doubt anything will ever be as funny as the joke about Sneed's Feed & Seed. Are you ready for this one? So, like I said, the place is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed" and this sign says "Formerly Chuck's", which means that when Chuck owned the place, well, I don't have to tell you...
<raptop>
ah, it's a reworking of that old joke with the guy with 3(4?) daughters and rhyming wordlplay to sneak in a bad word
<sandbox>
I keep seeing it everywhere
<sandbox>
and I don't know why
<a_flayer>
its the same reason you see star wars references everywhere
<sandbox>
I haven't seen any repeated star wars references lately
<a_flayer>
its pop culture
<raptop>
There's a 4-panel meme derived from ep 2 that's big on the bad bird website at the moment