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<Deddly>
Bavib, also, do you have any mods installed?
<Deddly>
darsie, it would be very cool if you could file that. I can try and see if QA have some spare resources to confirm it
<darsie>
The inverted and slow mouse in 1.12 is far more annoying.
<darsie>
It makes me think, WTH, don't they run the game before releasing it?
<Deddly>
I think Linux unfortunately gets much less testing :(
<Deddly>
Mac too
<darsie>
Yeah. Like ... none.
<Deddly>
That's why a bug report is so valuable
<Deddly>
But to be honest, three are so many variables with a game like KSP that it just isn't possible to cover everything in QA and prerelease testing
<Deddly>
there*
<Althego>
that reminds me. i still need to measure the power intake of the company laptop for the scheduled blackout next week
<Bavib>
Deddly: Career game... Also LMP-mod to play on a server. My current version LMP can't run on this newer version of KSP.
<Althego>
lol, the kspedia icon changes position on the toolbar between map and external view. just who does this
<Deddly>
Bavib, OK. If you open up a new, unmodded sanbox save, can you see the AP/PE markers then?
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<Bavib>
Serious bugs in this new upgrade ! ! !
<Althego>
new sandbox, ap is there, still ascending
<Althego>
but i am on windows
<Althego>
pe is there too
<Althego>
i do hope for a .1 release there are usually some bugs upon each release
<Deddly>
Bavib, unfortunately, almost every major release of KSP always has some serious bugs. I usually wait for the inevitable bug release version before playing on my own game.
<Deddly>
Bavib, are you playing on Windows, Mac or Linux?
<Bavib>
Thanx anyway, Deddly ;-) Windows.
<Deddly>
Bavib, and you're not running any mods? Do you have the Steam version?
<Mat2ch>
Deddly: well, they should drop Mac support then :D :P
<Althego>
in a sane world windows and macos wouldnt exist
<Mat2ch>
well, Linux neither... there are probably even better ways to do this ;)
<Althego>
at this computing is fubar
<Deddly>
Yeah, Workbench FTW
<Deddly>
AmigaOS = best OS
<Althego>
maybe os/2 warp shouldnt have died out :)
<Mat2ch>
I'm talking about kernel/modules/drivers architecture here!
<Mat2ch>
Like a micro kernel (that performs well...) and then modules that can't bring the main kernel down.
<Althego>
amiga had big endian cpu too
<Althego>
the only ghood endian
<Althego>
we are cursed with the little endian on x86. and most oses on arm are little endian too
<Althego>
at least now we have a separate graphical unit on the pc again. the video card. it seems the hw sound isnt really coming back
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<Deddly>
darsie, if you do get a change to put something in the bug tracker, I'd really appreciate a link.
<darsie>
sure
<Deddly>
Thanks :)
<darsie>
Deddly: I have no Ap, too. I think I should. Started a new game, upraded Tracking station.
<darsie>
Dated quicksaves, KER, EEX
<darsie>
And a few dependencies.
<darsie>
11.2 rated or so
<Deddly>
darsie, oh, interesting.
<Deddly>
Can you test with no mods?
<Deddly>
chanlog
<Mod9000>
I keep channel logs here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
<darsie>
Also did a fresh install.
<Deddly>
darsie, so, to be clear, you have a fresh install, no mods, and it still doesn't show you AP/PE markers?
<darsie>
just removed mods ...
<darsie>
The intro screen seem to do their fade in/out steps only when there's a new part being processed. Blocks when one takes long.
<darsie>
During startup.
<darsie>
Deddly: Yep, no Ap.
<Deddly>
Steam version?
<Deddly>
(Thanks for pinging me - I have IRC behind another window at the moment)
<darsie>
Tracking Station says "Facility Level 1, Fully Operational, Upgrade 150,000.00 VF, Orbits visible in map, Max DSN Power: 2.00 G"
<darsie>
Steam built: Jun 8 2021, at 22:23:41
<darsie>
Deddly:
<Deddly>
Steam version? :)
<Deddly>
OK
<Deddly>
darsie, please could you use Steam's built-in "verify local files" feature?
<darsie>
It doesn't seem to deducted the price from my balance, but the upgrade price increased to 150,000.00.
<Althego>
lol
<Deddly>
darsie, can you verify files?
<darsie>
doing
<darsie>
11 failed, reacquired ...
<Althego>
darsie is not doing :)
<darsie>
I am Allah ;p
<Deddly>
OK. Crazy stuff can happen if those files are not verified. So it will be interesting to see what happens after reacquiring them. To be on the safe side, darsie, could you verify again after those 11 files have been fixed?
<raptop>
darsie: congratulations, you are now doing. I hope you can do all the stuff
<darsie>
yes
<darsie>
1 failed ...
<Deddly>
1 always fails, that's not a concern
<Althego>
hehe
<Deddly>
I think the 1 that always fails is the settings file
<darsie>
downloading ...
<darsie>
all validated
<darsie>
successfully
<darsie>
I quit ksp during one of the validations.
* flayer
farts
* darsie
ignites flayer.
<darsie>
Ignition ...
<Althego>
wasa good game
<darsie>
And liftoff!
<raptop>
Buzz Aldrin's Race Into Space!
<darsie>
Hmm, the price for first Tracking station upgrade is 150 kVF. Maybe I didn't upgrade?
<darsie>
I was so sure I did ...
<darsie>
Deddly: I have Ap.
* darsie
hides.
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<Deddly>
Ooh, interesting!
<Deddly>
darsie, what is especially interesting about this one is that two people experienced the same problem at the same time. What happens if you add in your mods again?
<darsie>
We'll see. I deleted my game and start anew with mods ...
<Deddly>
Oh. I was going to suggest using the same saved game
<Deddly>
It's not impossible that there is something going on that corrupts the save in some way
<darsie>
btw, I'm launching the ksp_64 binary directly (from a custom made .desktop entry).
<Deddly>
That's fine
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<flayer>
what about the scroll stuff
<flayer>
it was inverted
<darsie>
It still is.
<darsie>
And RMB drag turns slower.
<darsie>
And MMB zooms slower.
<darsie>
MMB drag
<flayer>
for me too
<darsie>
Dragging KER windows is choppy.
<FLHerne>
Hrm
<FLHerne>
On my laptop, 1.12 seems to hang on startup
<FLHerne>
It's using a lot of CPU while not apparently doing anything [even opening a window]
<darsie>
Deddly: I have Ap with mods. I guess I just didn't upgrade the Tracking Station.
<Deddly>
Well, verified files for the win :)
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<darsie>
Does the verify conflict with mods?
<Deddly>
It shouldn't do but I haven't tested
<flayer>
not unless the mods overwrite some squad files in the file system
<FLHerne>
Tried under X11 instead of Wayland in case it was that; it isn't
<FLHerne>
(I'm on an Ivy Bridge laptop running Arch Linux)
<Althego>
hehe i think my own laptop is an ivy bridge too. havent turned it on for years, since i quit my old job and didnt need to travel
<Althego>
ran the game very poorly
<Althego>
shouldnt be a launch today?
<Althego>
ah no video
<Althego>
russian military satellite
<Althego>
wait, i thought there was one flacon 9 this week too
<Althego>
not anymore, on tuesday
<Althego>
hah, "am cat in two hours"
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<Mat2ch>
linuxgurugamer suprised me a bit in the video
<Althego>
rain surprised me too. that it didnt happen
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<Althego>
ok, laptop takes only about 8 watts in idle with brightness turned down (12 when not, so significant). it can also run about 2 hours on its tiny battery. so my plan for thursday is to run it 1 hour from the ups, after then unplug it, and let the ups run the routers. after 2 hours when it is close to shutdown plug it back in as a last resort if power did not came back
<darsie>
The SI unit for pressure is Pa, not PA.
<darsie>
.tell deddly aoeu
<Althego>
what would PA be? public announcement?
<darsie>
Sound pressure?
<darsie>
petaampere
<darsie>
But they use kPA.
<darsie>
and multiplyin SI prefixes is not allowed.
<darsie>
I was wondering what these shperical capsules were about. 4000 kPa=40 bar=400 m under water on Earth. Not super deep.