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<Solar_Oracle> Alright, it's on to more suffering.
<minas_tirith> Solar_Oracle
<Solar_Oracle> YOU WISH TO CONSULE THE ORACLE, MORTAL?
<raptop> Just as long as you're not the Larry Ellison Oracle
<Solar_Oracle> Nope, I'm one of those natural oracles like noxious fumes or flocks of birds.
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<raptop> "For all we know, his science-fiction could've been some peacenik screed about primitivist Neanderthals or naked princesses on Mars!" heh
<Solar_Oracle> For being such an important character, Mikey has as much depth and characterization as a single sheet of printer paper.
<Solar_Oracle> And another chapter up.
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<raptop> "onboard grav-drives that could accelerate them to a large fraction of the speed of light in less than twenty meters" Well, at least they can't fire them in a planetary atmosphere without killing themselves
<raptop> But, uh, also why would you shoot it at anything smaller than a carrier battle group?
* raptop assumes that grav-drives make a mockery of recoil
<Solar_Oracle> It would be funny if the recoil was substantial.
<Solar_Oracle> The Posleen books *really* love ridiculous, impractical science-fiction weapons that end up performing no better in the book than conventional weapons would have.
<Solar_Oracle> While I'm not sure if they're in this particular text, Watch on the Rhine has tanks that would dwarf Baneblades.
<raptop> Figure that the missile is at least 1 kg, and "large fraction" means >0.5 c (γ > 1.14). That's >3 megatons in kinetic energy
<Solar_Oracle> Hahaha! The Posleen orbit-to-surface bombardment vehicles are weak by comparison, getting no more than ten kilotons per the description in this current chapter.
<raptop> hah
<Solar_Oracle> Babylon 5 did it better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCk-12UtYEI
* raptop imagines a posleen hanging out the airlock of one of those dodecahedrons and aiming down at various cities
<Solar_Oracle> I think there was an episode of The Clone Wars where they actually did that with battlefield artillery being used in space as anti-ship batteries.
<raptop> nice
* raptop vaguely recalls something like that, with the artillery hidden so it could ambush the ships
<Solar_Oracle> Posleen shooting out of the airlocks would be some real Battlefield level stuff.
<Solar_Oracle> Crap, I can't find my favorite part of Babylon 5, season 2 on YouTube.
<Solar_Oracle> 3rd best scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0n2vurSBIQ
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<Althego> oh no, calli at the same time as ollie
<Althego> and a casual 5 hour stream from kiara
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<Althego> math stream started yess
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<Althego> guh
<raptop> There's something inherintly amusing about watching a zombie on another continent teach calculus
<Althego> be honest, it was interesting when she read pi
<raptop> it was surprisingly interesting
<Althego> that resize trick is something you cant do on a real blackboard
<Althego> why do we still go watch people drawing on a real one? would make more sense to sit at hgome and watch a stream
<raptop> I'm leaning towards the idea that lectures should be entirely pre-recorded things, and the actual student/teacher meetings be recitation/homework related things and labs
<raptop> hrm, properly deriving the power rule would mean having to do some binomial theorem silliness?
<Althego> i dont remember :)
<raptop> Obviously someone should troll Ollie by tweeting at her solutions to the homework involving fluxions
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<darsie> Boosters dive into the VAB floor if I press N.
<Althego> what does n do
<Althego> i think i never used that in the editor
<darsie> Positions the rocket some 5 or 10 m above ground.
<darsie> Maybe a mod key.
<Mat2ch> oh, wow
<Mat2ch> give that one a view
<Mat2ch> or two
<Mat2ch> and share it!
<Althego> what, momo launch lot later
<Althego> i could have watched it
<Althego> lol typical kerbals
<Althego> heh did momo fail? or was that rotation intentional?
<Mat2ch> Booster 3 on Pad A is so much taller than a starship :D
<darsie> Oh no, I forgot to deploy solar panels on my new space station. Now I have to send a probe with electricity up ...
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<Mat2ch> Althego: it's crazy that they still use analog communications for the cameras
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<Mat2ch> The ocean is burning. I've never seen that in any prophecy.
<Althego> centurions episode, the sky is on fire
<sandbox> the day of lavos
<Mat2ch> I'm talking about old prophecies!
<sandbox> 65 million year old prophecy
<Mat2ch> too old. :D
<flayer> honestly
<flayer> "the rapture" might just be a prediction of billionaires flying off into space to leave this planet
<flayer> "the meek shall inherit the earth" ... or what's left of it.
<Althego> hehe wata in da faiyaa
<Althego> ah, the gtx 1070 revisit benchmark from hardware unboxed. i have been waiting for this
<darsie> 1337
<flayer> .
<Eddi|zuHause> hm, i'm having a problem with ckan. it seems to expect the game in SteamApps, but it's actually in steamapps (lowercase)... and i can't find a way to change it
<Althego> add a symlink?
<Eddi|zuHause> i did that, but steam complains loudly about that
<Althego> lol
<Truga> seems like ckan has like ckan tries both
<Eddi|zuHause> it's probably correct about that, since it's one of those cases where it'll appear to work fine for years, but then randomly collapses in a weird corner case
<Eddi|zuHause> Truga: that's probably for first time installs, not installs which have existed for years and then steam decided the path changes?
<Truga> possibly
<Eddi|zuHause> problem is, in the game version list, i can only "rename" them, not change the path
<Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: linux? Then try a symlink
<Althego> didnt work
<Eddi|zuHause> well, it "works". but rings all kinds of alarm bells
<Mat2ch> not steam
<Mat2ch> for ckan.
<Eddi|zuHause> huh?
<Mat2ch> leave the steam stuff as it is and just add the symlink so ckan finds what it needs.
<Eddi|zuHause> huh?
<flayer> Eddi|zuHause, keep a baseball bat handy in case your computer starts rebelling against you
<Eddi|zuHause> symlink what to where?
<Mat2ch> ln -s steamapps SteamApps
<Eddi|zuHause> yes.
<Eddi|zuHause> that's what i did
<Eddi|zuHause> that's the part that steam complains about
<Mat2ch> hm
<Mat2ch> my KSP folder is in steamapps, too, and ckan doesn't complain
<Eddi|zuHause> yes, but mine was in SteamApps before
<Eddi|zuHause> now it's not
<Eddi|zuHause> and i can't change the entry in ckan
<Mat2ch> I'm confused...
<Eddi|zuHause> what's confusing?
<Eddi|zuHause> it used to be SteamApps. then some day several years ago steam decided to rename it to steamapps
<Mat2ch> You say ckan expects KSP in SteamApps.
<Mat2ch> but ckan works for me fine without complaining
<Eddi|zuHause> now i ran ckan again
<Eddi|zuHause> and it's still looking in SteamApps
<Eddi|zuHause> and i can't tell ckan to change the stored path
<Mat2ch> where is the ckan binary located for you?
<Eddi|zuHause> in some random folder i put it a few years ago
<Mat2ch> oh, ok, that's the difference
<Mat2ch> I place the binary usually in the KSP directory
<Mat2ch> so no path lookup
<Eddi|zuHause> not inside the steam folder
<Mat2ch> (and I can have multiple KSP installs in parallel with different stuff in it, like RO+RSS)
<Eddi|zuHause> sure. i could try to add a new instance
<Mat2ch> well, it is small enough to do so
<Mat2ch> also I run it from inside of a schroot environment :P
<Eddi|zuHause> i'm afraid the "clone" command will try to copy stuff onto itself, and the "new" command will not remember the mods
<Mat2ch> schroot -c chroot:sid_mono -p mono "/home/blabla/games/SteamLinux/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/ckan.exe"
<Mat2ch> I hope to annoy Althego with this. :D
<Althego> i just think it is useless complexity. doesnt matter what you use
<Eddi|zuHause> i should probably just google how to regedit with mono
<Mat2ch> Althego: I couldn't do this as a normal user with chroot only.
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<packbart> Eddi|zuHause: can't you just edit CKAN's config.json?
<Eddi|zuHause> there's no such file
<packbart> there should be. I only use CKAN on Windows and it's in AppData\Local\CKAN. I'd expect it to be in something like ~/.config/ on Linux
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<packbart> Eddi|zuHause: ~/.local/share/CKAN/config.json
<Eddi|zuHause> alright, that exists
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<raptop> !mission
<LunchBot> raptop: Mistakes are made. You melt Kerbin's scrith shell, causing it to fall into the singularity.
* raptop >_>;;
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<Althego> deletin one record is down from 1 minute to 43 seconds. huge improvements
<Althego> i guess as the tables shrink it gets faster
<Althego> mostly probably because the related table it needs to delete from still has 17 million rows
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<Althego> scott
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<BoxersteaveeG> hello
<Mod9000> Hello, BoxersteaveeG
<BoxersteaveeG> back to the good ol' days
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<raptop> blink
<raptop> huh, you can in fact do a munar flyby with level 1 VAB/pad and nothing fancier than an LV-T30 (general rocketry)
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