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<bees>
Izaya: Your finger slips, and you type ";fission" instead of ";mission." Now the whole capsule smells like Kethane.
<Izaya>
Given the mistake, that seems like I got off light.
<Althego>
not too bad
<Mat2ch>
!mission
<LunchBot>
Mat2ch: You experiment with the Coke/Mentos propellant combination. For all the resultant horror, grief, and pain, you put your differences behind you and try again. For science. You monster.
<goblin>
I was planning on adding the Rocket Equation support, but that's probably not gonna happen soon (unless someone wants a crack - there are some equations already there at https://github.com/goblin/ksp_brakecalc )
<goblin>
(and the source, but that's also viewable in-browser with a right click)
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<goblin>
can kerbals re-enter Kerbin's atmo without a capsule? I remember it used to be possible... and now they even have gliders. But when I tried, he overheated :-/
<FLHerne>
goblin: Yes, if you're very careful
<goblin>
FLHerne, hm, OK! Challenge accepted ;-)
<FLHerne>
You need to start in a 70x70 equatorial orbit or something close to it, and burn just the right amount to spread the heat loading out
<goblin>
does orientation make a difference? I remember it used to be helmet-first, but that was for lithobraking IIRC
<goblin>
(which probably no longer applies because of the glider)
<goblin>
I'll see how it goes. 69.5km orbit and dropping. Padous looks happy.
<FLHerne>
lol
<FLHerne>
;mission add You take Padous Kerman skydiving from orbit
<LunchBot>
FLHerne: Added mission: You take Padous Kerman skydiving from orbit
<Mat2ch>
!mission
<LunchBot>
Mat2ch: You attempt to launch a rocket using Jeb's excess matter of questionable origin as a bio-fuel. Bob's horrified screams, remixed and set to a techno backbeat, win the next Kerbovision Song Contest.
<bees>
Mat2ch: You are contracted to manufacture a series of ballistic missiles for the North Kerbeans. You discover how Kerbals reproduce and swear not to tell.
<goblin>
aaand *puff*. At 60km. Orientation didn't seem to make much difference indeed.
<Althego>
what if you make a steeper descent. denser air slows you down faster
<goblin>
yaaay, that worked! Thanks :-) Burned my entire EVA propellant to lower Pe as much as possible and the heating went up only to about 80% :-) Also, she's smiling way more than before
<packbart>
yeah, I keep just about 0.1-0.3 EVA propellant for the final adjustments
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<packbart>
the problem with clouds is that I can't see the optimal insertion point for a landing at KSC anymore
<packbart>
I might drive a rover out there and plant a flag or just set a waypoint
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<goblin>
Nice suits. I'm thinking of getting the expansions, but it seems wrong to do so before I even left the Kebrin SOI... I mean I need to *at least* land on Duna in the base game
<Althego>
the dlcs dont really influence that
<Althego>
new parts, some new science
<goblin>
well, and most importantly, new suits
<Althego>
i think the making history has the old suits, but the new is in the base game
<Althego>
old as in the space race era
<packbart>
yeah, but the BG glowy suits are cool ;)
<packbart>
I even use a MM patch that turns on the suit glow by default (but keeps the head lamp off)
<packbart>
Althego: "new is in the base game" - the "future" suits are in stock now?
<Althego>
i remembered it like that, but maybe they are not
<Mat2ch>
so, if SpaceX does a test today, what's your guess what they'll do?
<packbart>
go boom?
<flayer>
stress test their PR department by allowing elon musk to have a facebook account
<Althego>
i dot expecta boom at this stage
<packbart>
:(
<packbart>
big badaboom is why I'd watch it
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
i wouldwatch it for an orbital launch
<packbart>
nah, those all look the same
<Althego>
it would be the first launch of starship
<flayer>
yeah starship orbital launch is worth watching for that alone (for me anyway)
<flayer>
although really its the coming back down which interests me
<Althego>
probably not much to see there for the first time
<Althego>
ei expect it to come down in pieces
<Althego>
probably there will be a recording, glowing pieces flying and making streaks
<packbart>
it's the Parker probe gathering science while "flying low over the Sun" ;)
<Althego>
hehe
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<raptop>
pretty much, yeah
<Althego>
imagine jeb vlimbing out from a hidden compartment on the probe, while the space music is playing. hehe, they thought they can launch without me...
<NGC3982>
i love how the twitter feed is filled with people who are dissapointed with the image quality from the PSP venture
<darsie>
Is KSP2 vaporware?
<Althego>
playstation portable?
<NGC3982>
because I cAn Do tHaT bEtTeR wiTh mY PhOnE loLoLo tAx MonEy wAsTe
<Althego>
i dont think it is vaporware
<Althego>
maybe after 4 more years of waiting
<NGC3982>
oh i thought i was in #space again
<Althego>
hehe
<NGC3982>
dang that darsie
<Althego>
the overlap of people
<NGC3982>
figures
<Althego>
really annoying that Mat2ch is not there
<raptop>
hrm
<Mat2ch>
I'm here!
<NGC3982>
\o/
<raptop>
darsie: well, between the management issues and that they didn't realize just how big a task they set for themselves...
<Althego>
but not there
<bees>
darsie: You attempt to stop the hypetrain. You end up in the intensive care ward.
<Mat2ch>
just came back from grocery shopping. Hope I got everything for the holidays
<Althego>
hehe fitting poutcome
<darsie>
What was the task they set for themselves?
<Althego>
even if you stopped it, people would beat you up
<Mat2ch>
Althego: oh, you mean in #space. :D
<darsie>
Well, I guess what I've seen on youtube so far.
<Althego>
##space actually
<Mat2ch>
When I post in #space, then I'm not posting here anymore and then this channel will be dying even faster...
<raptop>
darsie: the whole more or less realistic interstellar travel and multiple star systems bit comes to mind, but also the base-building, and trying to have something that fakes up n-body physics well enough
<darsie>
Will there me more and more interesting missions in KSP2?
<Althego>
there could be all separate games by themselves
<bees>
raptop: you can probably simulate n-body with shells of "influence spheres" around binary systems at almost zero overhead
<raptop>
something something quadropole moments?
<bees>
and it would still be bad, yeah
<darsie>
Kerbol-Kerbin-L2?
<darsie>
halo orbit?
<bees>
Lx points can be approximated by influence spheres too
<raptop>
The problem being that Rask/Rusk are supposed to be like Duna/Ike, but more
<bees>
halo nope
<raptop>
And they set up ring systems as a challenge for themselves
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<darsie>
Bump into rock/ice chunks and change their orbits?
<Althego>
kikkerikii
<raptop>
darsie: maybe!
<Mat2ch>
darsie: they were talking about building colonies and managing them
<Althego>
something about transporting stuff
<Althego>
and then once you did it once it would automatic
<Althego>
even the managament of one colony is complicated, managing multiple with transportation among these is even harder
<Althego>
then there is the whole spaceship game thing too
<raptop>
And it makes time more of an important resource
<raptop>
Also, does the player have to fly all ships?
<bees>
i'd assume you need to fly them once
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<bees>
"Proving Contract: Deliver [slider between 0...100] tons cargo to 80x80 km orbit and [optional] return your rocket back to KSC"
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<darsie>
I wish the small RW wouldn't overshoot at lower authority.