<Azander>
packbart: I agree, from a programming standpoint they are about the same.
<Azander>
similar as CoBOL and RPG too
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<Izzy>
now I don't know off the top of my head how big Qt is, probably quite large; but I was under the impression Chromium was at least larger than the Linux kernel
<FLHerne>
Qt is pretty large, but not that large
<FLHerne>
but the relevant parts of Chromium - rendering of straightforward HTML/CSS/JS content - are used all day, every day by billions of people
<FLHerne>
it may be complex, but it's very well-characterized complexity
<Izzy>
it certainly gets a lot of use and abuse, which is Something
<Izzy>
lots of eyes on it
<FLHerne>
whereas my personal experience with Qt is that it's quite easy to stumble across significant bugs in the library
<Azander>
the big issue is that just ro open a window and pring "hello world" you have to link in all of QT instad of just what you need. Most computer languages these days are that way.
<FLHerne>
because a lot of it only has a handful of major users that haven't explored every corner case
<FLHerne>
Qt is somewhat modular
<Azander>
yes, it is. It isn't as bad a Java, Visual Basic, or C#
<FLHerne>
core, widgets, scripting, declarative stuff etc are all separate libs
<Azander>
but if I don't need the "input functions" I still have to include them
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<Mat2ch>
packbart: It is far more complex.
<Mat2ch>
HTML engines these days have predictions, buffers, etc. that try to render a website even if there aren't all assets loaded
<Mat2ch>
the JavaScript engine is a whole turing complete layer on top of that.
<Althego>
and just in time javascript ocmpilatin
<Althego>
compilation
<Althego>
what is this about?
<Mat2ch>
And then you use that JavaScript to modify the HTML layer, which then will go back through the whole rendering phase.
<Mat2ch>
01:51:09 packbart | Mat2ch: I think a widely used HTML/JS engine is no more complex than someone whipping up a custom UI with QT
<Althego>
the spacex ui?
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<Mat2ch>
yes
<Mat2ch>
(yes, ware still discussing this ;)
<Althego>
but if you think of all these as libs, the actual gui code can be possibly small
<Althego>
with some js framework
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<LunchBot>
You build an Alcubierre drive. How could you do this, Koro-Sensei?!
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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
Time loops alongside your for loops and while loops. The good news is: The permanent organ damage was nearly fatal.
<raptop>
Wackiness with time almost killing someone? What is this, a Star Trek episode?
<Althego>
you have suffered minor head trauma. this is considered an optimal outcome
<Eddi|zuHause>
that mission always trips me up, because it's ambiguous which one is the verb
<Eddi|zuHause>
my brain gravitates towards "time" being the verb
<Eddi|zuHause>
that, or there being no verb at all...
<Eddi|zuHause>
but really it would make the most sense with the first "loops" being the verb
<Eddi|zuHause>
but i have a really hard time actually reading the sentence like that
<Eddi|zuHause>
it's really hard having the same ambiguity in german...
<Eddi|zuHause>
the closest i can imagine is: "Wenn hinter Robben Robben robben, robben Robben Robben hinterher", and even there it's only ambiguous when spoken, it's obvious when written down, because of the capitalisation
<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission add How much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?
<LunchBot>
Added mission: How much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?
<sandbox>
!mission
<LunchBot>
After rigorous observations, you discover what Kerbals really eat. Someone implements your strategy in the world-record TAS of KSP2.
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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to return Jebediah from the surface of the Mun. It's a complete failure, but at least the annoying earworm stays with you all day.
<darsie>
I could get Jeb off the Mun's surface.
<darsie>
I'm sure he'd like it.
<Eddi|zuHause>
i've had plenty of failed mun missions
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<raptop>
Maybe Jebediah stopped you himself (with the power of Rock)
<Eddi|zuHause>
well it is technically one of the 4 magic elements? :p
<raptop>
Let's see, fire, water, air... yeah, that works with KSP
<Eddi|zuHause>
maybe each of the original 4 has a match with one of the elements?
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<FLHerne>
I think Jeb is obviously Fire
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<FLHerne>
Bill Earth, Job Water and Valentina Air
<FLHerne>
Bob
<Eddi|zuHause>
i would maybe flip bill and val.
<Eddi|zuHause>
because air->lightning->electricity
<FLHerne>
Eddi|zuHause: but Bill is an engineer, which in KSP mostly involves mending wheels
<FLHerne>
whereas Val is a pilot
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