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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You launch a rocket that launches rocket-launching rockets. The international community frowns due to your shenanigans.
<Eddi|zuHause>
they just don't appreciate the fractals.
<XXCoder>
lol
<XXCoder>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You present an Erinaceinae with a dilemma. Gauss and Jordan eliminate you.
<XXCoder>
Im similiar with gauss but other 2 dunno lol
<XXCoder>
familiar
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<packbart>
The moonrat's dilemma, I see :)
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<Eddi|zuHause>
XXCoder: most call it "gauss algorithm" but really it's called "gauss-jordan algorithm of solving a linear equation system by elimitation"
<XXCoder>
ahh ok
<packbart>
Michael Jordan eliminates you with a Gauss rifle
<Althego>
hehe
<Eddi|zuHause>
my math professor once said gauss would be really mad if he learned they named something that trivial after him
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<sandbox>
degauss
<sandbox>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You believe yourself to have transcended conventional morality. The last thing you see is a Blue Sky of Death.
<Eddi|zuHause>
for once, a very logical chain of events :p
<XXCoder>
yep
<XXCoder>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You order a batch of LV-T30's. You fail to control your FOOF (dioxygen difluoride) and blow up the entire space complex.
<XXCoder>
hmm wonder if those parts use it
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<packbart>
"[Star Citizen] has spent considerably more money than actual interplanetary space missions to get nowhere near implementing one" *snark*
<packbart>
XXCoder: I guess they don't, so it all blew up when you tried :)
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<Eddi|zuHause>
or maybe you stored FOOF for entirely unrelated reasons...
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<Azander>
!mission
<LunchBot>
A question weirdly phrased you ask. You get mauled by a catbus, and your space program fails due to leaving insufficient documentation for your successors.
<Mat2ch>
That's what you get for not speaking proper English. Also document your stuff.
<Mat2ch>
:D
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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You install FAR. But there, cleverly disguised as a bomb, is a bomb.
<Eddi|zuHause>
as long as the bomb is FAR...
<sandbox>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You attempt to recreate the Cassini-Huygens mission. The resulting explosion is visible from space. That's less remarkable than it sounds because it's *in* space, but Mitdun certainly has a good view.
<packbart>
velps, time to get another Titan from ze wats
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<Mat2ch>
Why does SpaceX bother and have the legs of the OLM painted? Do they really thing the paint will survive this time? :D
<FLHerne>
well, this time it won't be sandblasted
<Mat2ch>
Water blasted
<Althego>
from top, plasma jet cutting, from below, water jet cutting
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* raptop
stares at the forums
<raptop>
"air-launched SSTO"
<SporkWitch>
taht's two stages!
<raptop>
exactly!
<Althego>
hehe
<sandbox>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You open an airlock to EVA and fix a malfunctioning rocket engine. Houston has a problem.
<darsie>
Balloon launched SSTO?
<Mat2ch>
Still two stages. ;)
<Althego>
cannon launched ssto?
<Mat2ch>
I'd say the cannon is a stange.
<Eddi|zuHause>
dunno. are launch clamps a stage?
<Eddi|zuHause>
and if no, at what point does it change into a stage?
<raptop>
Only if you abuse them to the point where the altitude gain matters
<Mat2ch>
I'd say a stage is something that has to propel the craft in a way.
<darsie>
A truck ride up a mountain?
<SporkWitch>
i'd argue the balloon only counts as a separate stage if it's detached/ejected, rather than deflated and retracted.
<raptop>
The thing is, given KSP's scale, a craft air-launched at, say, 15 km and 350 m/s has a much easier time getting to orbit than one at 0/0. The above figures save what, half the Δv?
<darsie>
You need about 2200 mls.
<darsie>
m/s
<SporkWitch>
definitely a lot. I'd argue even on Earth it's a non-trivial difference just getting out of the thick atmosphere and starting with some non-vertical velocity. Hence the various attempts with air launches; air-breathing engines are MUCH more efficient, and the stage is trivially reuable. This also reduces the mass of your upper stages
<raptop>
Yeah, something like 2296 m/s at 70 km and 2246 m/s at 100 km. But then there's that ~1+ km/s of drag. Like, there's a reason my craft seem to expend ~3400 m/s from the pad
<darsie>
That's vacuum dv.
<darsie>
That's inflated. Also 3400 is very inefficient.
<darsie>
I did it in about 2850 or so.
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